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date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:47:18 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.transport.london        back       
Euston northern line   
Is there a place where you can see both northern Line NB departure
board so you can see where the next train to Golders Green will be?
date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:47:18 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Euston northern line   
On Aug 8, 6:47 am, "davidmetzg...@gmail.com" 
wrote:
> Is there a place where you can see both northern Line NB departure
> board so you can see where the next train to Golders Green will be?

Following the modernisation of the station there is a bank of display
panels in the ticket hall before you reach the ticket gates. This
shows the next 3 departures / waiting times for each platform.  You
should be able to see which platform will be served first by an
Edgware branch train.

Paul Corfield
via Google
date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:57:51 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Paul Corfield

Re: Euston northern line   
On Aug 8, 7:57 am, Paul Corfield  wrote:
> Following the modernisation of the station there is a bank of display
> panels in the ticket hall before you reach the ticket gates. This
> shows the next 3 departures / waiting times for each platform.  You
> should be able to see which platform will be served first by an
> Edgware branch train.

Good luck trying to get down to the platform in time if the next train
is 1 min away :)

B2003
date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 01:37:46 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Boltar

Re: Euston northern line   
On Aug 8, 9:37 am, Boltar  wrote:
> > Following the modernisation of the station there is a bank of display
> > panels in the ticket hall before you reach the ticket gates. This
> > shows the next 3 departures / waiting times for each platform.  You
> > should be able to see which platform will be served first by an
> > Edgware branch train.
>
> Good luck trying to get down to the platform in time if the next train
> is 1 min away :)

Do-able if it's Charing X branch, not so much if it's City...

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org
date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 02:28:47 -0700 (PDT)   author:   John B

Re: Euston northern line   
On 8 Aug, 10:28, John B  wrote:
> On Aug 8, 9:37 am, Boltar  wrote:
>
> > > Following the modernisation of the station there is a bank of display
> > > panels in the ticket hall before you reach the ticket gates. This
> > > shows the next 3 departures / waiting times for each platform.  You
> > > should be able to see which platform will be served first by an
> > > Edgware branch train.
>
> > Good luck trying to get down to the platform in time if the next train
> > is 1 min away :)
>
> Do-able if it's Charing X branch, not so much if it's City...


Is it like Camden Town where they don't necessarily show the next
train if it's too close?  I find it extremely confusing that the
displays on the platform are not consistent when I get there.
date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:28:58 -0700 (PDT)   author:   MIG

Re: Euston northern line   
"MIG"  wrote in message 
news:8b44ac4f-1eff-4406-b82e-03b8ef545a54@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
On 8 Aug, 10:28, John B  wrote:
> On Aug 8, 9:37 am, Boltar  wrote:
>
> > > Following the modernisation of the station there is a bank of display
> > > panels in the ticket hall before you reach the ticket gates. This
> > > shows the next 3 departures / waiting times for each platform. You
> > > should be able to see which platform will be served first by an
> > > Edgware branch train.
>
> > Good luck trying to get down to the platform in time if the next train
> > is 1 min away :)
>
> Do-able if it's Charing X branch, not so much if it's City...


Is it like Camden Town where they don't necessarily show the next
train if it's too close?  I find it extremely confusing that the
displays on the platform are not consistent when I get there.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Though nothing is more useless than the repeaters at Waterloo which almost 
always say "train within 3 minutes"

tim
date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:03:30 +0100   author:   tim.....

Re: Euston northern line   
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 01:37:46 -0700 (PDT), Boltar 
wrote:

>On Aug 8, 7:57 am, Paul Corfield  wrote:
>> Following the modernisation of the station there is a bank of display
>> panels in the ticket hall before you reach the ticket gates. This
>> shows the next 3 departures / waiting times for each platform.  You
>> should be able to see which platform will be served first by an
>> Edgware branch train.
>
>Good luck trying to get down to the platform in time if the next train
>is 1 min away :)

Fair point but I've made it from ticket hall to n/b Victoria line (about
the longest distance below ground) and caught a train shown as 2 mins
away on the t/hall display.

-- 
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!
date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:28:01 +0100   author:   Paul Corfield

Re: Euston northern line   
On Aug 8, 5:28 pm, Paul Corfield  wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 01:37:46 -0700 (PDT), Boltar 
> wrote:
>
> >On Aug 8, 7:57 am, Paul Corfield  wrote:
> >> Following the modernisation of the station there is a bank of display
> >> panels in the ticket hall before you reach the ticket gates. This
> >> shows the next 3 departures / waiting times for each platform.  You
> >> should be able to see which platform will be served first by an
> >> Edgware branch train.
>
> >Good luck trying to get down to the platform in time if the next train
> >is 1 min away :)
>
> Fair point but I've made it from ticket hall to n/b Victoria line (about
> the longest distance below ground) and caught a train shown as 2 mins
> away on the t/hall display.
>
> --
> Paul C
>
> Admits to working for London Underground!


IMHO Camden Town is somewhere that needs a Trackernet display for the
public to see.

I know Trackernet format is not that easy to use by the masses but
regular punters will soon pick it up allowing them to make there own
decisions as to what might be next.

--
Nick
date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:50:04 -0700 (PDT)   author:   D7666

Re: Euston northern line   
D7666 wrote:

> IMHO Camden Town is somewhere that needs a Trackernet display for the
> public to see.
> 
> I know Trackernet format is not that easy to use by the masses but
> regular punters will soon pick it up allowing them to make there own
> decisions as to what might be next.
> 
Camden Town already has repeaters of the Platform indicators at the 
bottom of the escalators and outside the Supervisor's Office. Used them 
on many an occasion when hunting a Southbound train.

Cheers,

Barry
date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:58:36 +0100   author:   Barry Salter

Re: Euston northern line   
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:50:04 -0700 (PDT), D7666 
wrote:

[train departures]

>IMHO Camden Town is somewhere that needs a Trackernet display for the
>public to see.

the track diagram or the list of departures from platforms?

Not sure the track diagram would work simply because it shows train
numbers and they typically give no clue as to which branch is served
south of Camden.  Northbound it doesn't matter as platforms are branch
specific.

>I know Trackernet format is not that easy to use by the masses but
>regular punters will soon pick it up allowing them to make there own
>decisions as to what might be next.

However customer information systems should really be designed so
everyone can use them easily and quickly.  Given the volume of tourist
and irregular users at Camden Town it would be a bit daft to put in a
"regular user" specific system. The place would just clog up with
confused people and there's no space in the station to have people just
standing about trying to decide what platform to use.
-- 
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!
date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:07:09 +0100   author:   Paul Corfield

Re: Euston northern line   
In message , Paul Corfield 
 writes

>[train departures]
>
>>IMHO Camden Town is somewhere that needs a Trackernet display for the
>>public to see.
>
>the track diagram or the list of departures from platforms?
>
>Not sure the track diagram would work simply because it shows train
>numbers and they typically give no clue as to which branch is served
>south of Camden.  Northbound it doesn't matter as platforms are branch
>specific.

But aren't they like ours - different colours for the different 
destinations?
-- 
Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK
(please use the reply to address for email)
date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 00:33:43 +0100   author:   Steve Fitzgerald

Re: Euston northern line   
"John B"  wrote in message 
news:535d0f53-85de-4ac0-8975-ebe59f2454ba@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 8, 9:37 am, Boltar  wrote:
>> > Following the modernisation of the station there is a bank of display
>> > panels in the ticket hall before you reach the ticket gates. This
>> > shows the next 3 departures / waiting times for each platform.  You
>> > should be able to see which platform will be served first by an
>> > Edgware branch train.
>>
>> Good luck trying to get down to the platform in time if the next train
>> is 1 min away :)
>
> Do-able if it's Charing X branch, not so much if it's City...
>
> --
> John Band
> john at johnband dot org
> www.johnband.org

Have done City to Charing X in 2 mins
date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 23:05:55 +0100   author:   Nicola Redwood

Re: Euston northern line   
On 8 Aug, 23:05, "Nicola Redwood" <nicolaexternal-
newsgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > Following the modernisation of the station there is a bank of display
> >> > panels in the ticket hall before you reach the ticket gates. This
> >> > shows the next 3 departures / waiting times for each platform.  You
> >> > should be able to see which platform will be served first by an
> >> > Edgware branch train.
>
> >> Good luck trying to get down to the platform in time if the next train
> >> is 1 min away :)
>
> > Do-able if it's Charing X branch, not so much if it's City...
>

> Have done City to Charing X in 2 mins

Good work. Did northbound City to platform 8 in 2 minutes 30 today -
irritatingly missed Overground train by 45 secs anyway, but was still
quite pleased by my Eustonly navigation skills...

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org
date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:27:10 -0700 (PDT)   author:   John B

Re: Euston northern line   
So theres no way if your transferring from the Victoria to the
Northern . Is there a map of the LU portion of Euston ?
date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:16:54 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Euston northern line   
On Aug 10, 2:16 am, "davidmetzg...@gmail.com"
 wrote:
> So theres no way if your transferring from the Victoria to the
> Northern . Is there a map of the LU portion of Euston ?

If you're doing a cross-platform interchange, it's probably worth just
sticking with the City branch unless you can see there's such a long
gap that it's worth trekking over to the Charing Cross.

If you are going northbound to southbound or vice versa (eg Highbury
to Golders Green), the best thing is to use the staircase at the
western end of the platforms*, and again you are so much nearer to the
City branch that it's probably worth sticking with unless you see that
there's a huge gap in service.

Don't go up and down the huge escalators unless you have mobility
problems.

*Directed as to the emergency staircase, but effectively creates a
passage between the two sets of City/Victoria platforms.
date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 01:47:27 -0700 (PDT)   author:   MIG

Re: Euston northern line   
Just as a vaguely related aside...I regard as one of my best bits of
commuter navigation getting off the fast train from Harrow &
Wealdstone (platform 10) and managing to catch my connecting train
from platform 5 at Kings Cross in *five* minutes by way of the
Victoria line (possible by the fact the Vic train's doors closed a
couple of seconds after I jumped aboard and the same set of doors are
closest to both sets of routes to both mainline stations). :)
date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 04:58:12 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Jamie Thompson

Re: Euston northern line   
On 10 Aug, 12:58, Jamie  Thompson  wrote:
> Just as a vaguely related aside...I regard as one of my best bits of
> commuter navigation getting off the fast train from Harrow &
> Wealdstone (platform 10) and managing to catch my connecting train
> from platform 5 at Kings Cross in *five* minutes by way of the
> Victoria line (possible by the fact the Vic train's doors closed a
> couple of seconds after I jumped aboard and the same set of doors are
> closest to both sets of routes to both mainline stations). :)

I nearly had an excellent one yesterday, arriving on the District
platform at Whitechapel at 1315 (having found out there were delays on
the H&C), getting a District immediately, going a car forward at each
stop to be at the right end at Monument, changing onto the Northern
line, going a car forward at each stop to be at the right end at
Euston, and getting to mainline platform 7 at 1338.

Unfortunately, my train left at 1337...

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org
date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:11:06 -0700 (PDT)   author:   John B

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