On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 18:24:15 +0100, "dB"  wrote
this gibberish:

>
>"Roland Perry"  wrote in message 
>news:feuWysIBtNcIFA5H@perry.co.uk...
>> In message <-6WdnZcMDd_VTO3VnZ2dnUVZ8gidnZ2d@posted.plusnet>, at 15:05:48 
>> on Sun, 6 Jul 2008, dB  remarked:
>>>I do live in London and use public transport every day. It's considerably
>>>better than the public transport elsewhere in this country.
>>
>> That's a fairly bold assertion. Having experienced both at close quarters, 
>> I think the public transport in Nottingham is at least as good. And having 
>> been many places in the World, there are plenty where public transport is 
>> cheaper and cleaner than in London.
>> -- 
>> Roland Perry
>
>A generalisation, yes. As always there are exceptions and Nottingham has 
>always had fairly good bus services. That's not true of some other large 
>cities though. If I had to live without a car, of all the places I've lived 
>in, London would be the easiest place to do it (followed by Nottingham). I 
>agree about the cleanliness, although to be fair that's not just a public 
>transport issue. 

Personally I've lived in Plymouth, York, Edinburgh, Newcastle and now
London and this is the only place I've been happy to not have a car so
I'm inclined to agree.
yes it could be better on oh so many ways.
yes it is already pretty good.
-- 
Mark Varley
www.MarkVarleyPhoto.co.uk
www.TwistedPhotography.co.uk
London, England.

thagor2008@googlemail.com wrote 
> On Jul 7, 7:18 am, MIG  wrote:
> > In most other UK towns and cities, it doesn't say anything on the
> > tin.  Try to find a route diagram on display in most places, for
 
> Unfortunately true, though at least some tram systems have sprung up
> in the last decade or so in various places though these are hardly
[...]

Huh ? I had no difficulty in Guildford, Woking, Andover, Bournemouth,
Bath, York and Lincoln. In every case I acquired a timetable booklet,
usually free - max 50p, with excellent maps and diagrams. The biggest
problem was when this said the last bus was 20:08.

-- 
Mike D

MIG  wrote 
> On Jul 8, 12:05 am, "Michael R N Dolbear"  wrote:

>> Huh ? I had no difficulty in Guildford, Woking, Andover,
Bournemouth,
>> Bath, York and Lincoln. In every case I acquired a timetable
booklet,
>> usually free - max 50p, with excellent maps and diagrams. The
biggest
>> problem was when this said the last bus was 20:08.

> That pretty much illustrates the point.  I can't remember when I last
needed to get any kind of timetable booklet in London because,
firstly, I know that any route is likely to run frequently till late,
if not all night and, secondly, there will be timetables and diagrams
at the bus stop.

Well *I* needed and got a booklet in Kingston (did you know it has
*two* bus stations) and because there are both Tfl and Surrey buses the
diagrams were  confusing, in some respects wrong and also chopped off
at unhelpful points.

I was responding to "what is says on the tin" --- "there is no tin".

-- 
Mike D