On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 03:00:25 -0700 (PDT), thagor2008@googlemail.com
wrote:

>On 5 Jul, 19:27, "dB"  wrote:
>> You should try using public transport outside of London. It's not much use
>> when your last bus leaves at 7 o'clock, or there's no service at all on a
>
>Well thats your choice to live out in the sticks. When you live in a
>capital city you expect a workable public transport system.

And that, despite your incessant whining, is precisely what London
has.

On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 06:19:06 -0700 (PDT), thagor2008@googlemail.com
wrote:

>Well you bloody commute on it every day then and see just how
>wonderful you think it is. Yes , it'll get you there eventually. Not
>much bloody good if you're late for a meeting or some other work
>appointment though.  Perhaps you should ask yourself if its so
>wonderful how come so many people STILL drive or bike into london
>despite the congestion charge.

London's transport system is IMO *just about* workable, but it is in a
lot of places embarrassing for a world-class city.  Hamburg, for
example, has the kind of system - highly punctual and reliable, clean
and lots of capacity - that London should have.

The state of the track on the sub-surface lines, and the hunting
problem on the DLR are good examples of how poor it can be.

Neil

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Neil Williams wrote:
> 
> London's transport system is IMO *just about* workable, but it is in a
> lot of places embarrassing for a world-class city.  Hamburg, for
> example, has the kind of system - highly punctual and reliable, clean
> and lots of capacity - that London should have.
> 
> The state of the track on the sub-surface lines, and the hunting
> problem on the DLR are good examples of how poor it can be.

Another example is the constant bangs and thumps from underneath the 
train, and a generally "bouncy" ride, on the Metropolitan line services 
to Uxbridge. Admittedly, the stock is about 45 years old, which may 
explain it.

On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 06:19:06 -0700 (PDT), thagor2008@googlemail.com
wrote:

>On 6 Jul, 11:25, James Farrar  wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 03:00:25 -0700 (PDT), thagor2...@googlemail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 5 Jul, 19:27, "dB"  wrote:
>> >> You should try using public transport outside of London. It's not much use
>> >> when your last bus leaves at 7 o'clock, or there's no service at all on a
>>
>> >Well thats your choice to live out in the sticks. When you live in a
>> >capital city you expect a workable public transport system.
>>
>> And that, despite your incessant whining, is precisely what London
>> has.
>
>Well you bloody commute on it every day then and see just how
>wonderful you think it is. 

I do. I use the Heathrow branch of the Piccadilly line too.

On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:46:53 +0100, John Ray
 wrote:

>Another example is the constant bangs and thumps from underneath the 
>train, and a generally "bouncy" ride, on the Metropolitan line services 
>to Uxbridge. Admittedly, the stock is about 45 years old, which may 
>explain it.

It's getting on a bit, but it would ride fine if the track wasn't in
such a disgraceful state.  There was no similar issue with the 1935 (I
think)[1] stock used in Hamburg until 2000.

Bullhead jointed rail has no place on any non-heritage railway in
2008, least of all bullhead jointed rail worn to the state it is on
LUL.

[1] Some of it was unrefurbished, as well, with tungsten lighting and
wooden benches - quite an atmosphere.

Neil

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