On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:34:48 +0100, "tim....."
 wrote:

>
>"Scott"  wrote in message 
>news:6u0g645ule3sn1j0vhcb2vn97pk24ub5r9@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:34:22 +0100, "tim....."
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Scott"  wrote in message
>>>news:dluf64dtv49eatav0onpv2uc2f35q2tvv4@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:02:46 +0100, Michael Hoffman
>>>> <cam.ac.uk@mh391.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Scott wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:04:52 +0100, Michael Hoffman
>>>>>> <cam.ac.uk@mh391.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's got nothing to do with residency, it's about whether or not 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> ODTC +
>>>>>>>>> return journey to the zone edge option will still exist. Unless
>>>>>>>>> Oyster is
>>>>>>>>> going to be rolled in the provinces then folks out there will still
>>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>> be able to buy this Travelcard option.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You mean to avoid paying for the same small section of the journey
>>>>>>>> twice.  An interesting point that I had not thought of.  But will 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> discount that applies when an Oyser card is used balance this out?
>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So how much is an Travelcard for zones 1-2 when purchased as an add-on
>>>>>> to an off-peak rail ticket?
>>>>>
>>>>>There is no such thing. There are only out-boundary Travelcards.
>>>>
>>>> There must be a price differential between (1) buying a ticket from a
>>>> place outside London to the London terminus and (2) buying a ticket
>>>> from the same place to Zones 1-2.  That was the question.  I do not
>>>> know all the terminology.
>>>
>>>Actually, if you are stupid enough to buy a ticket to zone 1, the
>>>differential is 8 pounds per return ticket.
>>>
>>>If you buy a travel card, from my local station the extra costs is about
>>>3.50 without a railcard or 2.30 with.
>>>
>> I am not sure what you are comparing with what here.
>
>I'm answering the question that was asked:
>
>"how much more is an 'add on' zone 1 ticket from outside Zone 6 than a SDR 
>to London"
>
>tim
>
Sorry, I misread it late at night.  I was not thinking about
Railcards.  I see what you mean.  So it is £1.30 less than the capping
that would be applied by the Oyser card (which would charge £4.80).

As I said in my other posting there will be winners and losers in any
change, but some passengers paying an extra £1.30 seems to me a small
price to pay for all the benefits that flexible cashless ticketing
brings.