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date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:32:04 -0700,    group: uk.transport.london        back       
Re: How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?   
>Nobody wrote:
>>> On 27 Jun 2008 19:52:56 GMT, Rian van der Borgt <rvdborgt+@evonet.be>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Here in Belgium, bus/tram drivers are also very reluctant to eccept 50
>>>> euro notes, simply because they often don't have enough change for them.
>>>
>>> Most buses in the UK do not accept GBP20 notes for the same reason.
>> 
>> And then in this section of North America at least (Metro Vancouver),
>> you have to have EXACT coin change to pay on board a bus...
>
>AFAIK, that is the case for all buses in the US as well.  Exact cash 
>fares are required, though many systems will let you overpay if you 
>don't demand change (i.e. they'll let you pay USD2 for a USD1.50 fare).
>
>There are many reasons for this.  The most obvious is that making change 
>increases dwell time, which slows the bus down.  The more important one, 
>though, is that this way the driver does not handle any money; the fare 
>goes directly from the passenger's hands into a lockbox, which reduces 
>the risks of both driver theft and robbery.
>
> > ticket machines at SkyTrain/SeaBus stations will accept bills to $20
> > and make change, as well as accept credit/debit cards... once the fare
> > is paid, the ticket/transfer is valid across the whole transit system
>> (bus/train/ferry), depending on the zone/s paid for.
>
>AFAIK, all TVMs in the US and Canada will accept $20 bills.  The problem 
>  with doing that is the change you get: a USD1.50 ticket here means 
>twenty coins (18x$1, 2x25c) in change from a USD20 bill, and that's 
>enough weight and bulk to seriously annoy you.  As a result, I rarely 
>see anyone using bills larger than $5 at our TVMs.
>
>S

Canadian $2 coins (twoonies) and $1 coins (loonies) get rid of a lot
of that jingle-jangle!

Given that Metro Vancouver's base fare is $2.50 (i.e. one zone) or
$3.75/two zone, or $5/three zone, the change factor becomes relatively
minimal.

If those charges seem large, "fare saver" books and monthly passes
offer substantial discounts.

For example, a "ten-ticket" single-zone fare-saver booklet costs $19,
or $1.90/trip and is totally transferrable within the one zone, or
tri-zone system-wide after 6.30 p.m. and all day Sats/Suns/public
holidays.

An adult unrestricted daypass system-wise (all three zones but only
available after 9.30 a.m.) is $9.

Monthly fare cards by zone crossing for unlimited use are $73/99/136,
with a flat concession card at $42 anywhere, anytime for oldies and
kiddies.

The transit system (three zones) stretches from Lions Bay in the far
NW, to deep Langley in the far SE -- somewhere in the region of 75km
or more -- and all the way south to the Ammurican border -- though it
is concentrated in the "core" municipalities of the North Shore,
Vancouver city, Burnaby, New Westminster, Tri-Cities (in the NE),
Surrey/Delta, and Richmond.
date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:32:04 -0700   author:   Nobody

Re: How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?   
>>> And then in this section of North America at least (Metro Vancouver),
>>> you have to have EXACT coin change to pay on board a bus...
>>
>>AFAIK, that is the case for all buses in the US as well.  Exact cash
>>fares are required, though many systems will let you overpay if you
>>don't demand change (i.e. they'll let you pay USD2 for a USD1.50 fare).

Exact change or season ticket or day ticket is about standard thought North
America, as been for at least a decade.

Same as single or perhaps two zone fares.

And, of course, transfer tickets to enable your to change buses without
having to pay again.


--
Cheers

Roger T.
Home of the Great Eastern Railway at:-
http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/
Latitude:  48° 25' North
Longitude:  123° 21' West
date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:34:08 -0700   author:   Roger T.

Re: How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?   
"Nobody"  wrote in message 
news:jhrd64hb2rqtlhl8iihe252hdtm4sqm7ik@4ax.com...

> Canadian $2 coins (twoonies) and $1 coins (loonies) get rid of a lot
> of that jingle-jangle!

Any truth to rumours that the Canadians plan to introduce a 5-dollar coin 
for general circulation?
date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:20:43 +0100   author:   unknown

Re: How much was a ticket for the underground in the 60s?   
>> Canadian $2 coins (twoonies) and $1 coins (loonies) get rid of a lot
>> of that jingle-jangle!
>
> Any truth to rumours that the Canadians plan to introduce a 5-dollar coin
> for general circulation?

Yes.  Seriously under consideration due to pressure from the vending machine
lobby.


--
Cheers

Roger T.
Home of the Great Eastern Railway at:-
http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/
Latitude:  48° 25' North
Longitude:  123° 21' West
date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:48:57 -0700   author:   Roger T.

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