Evening all,

One for the collectors of fictitious underground stations - and in 
particular for the specialists who like fictitious abandoned underground 
stations!

There's a film out at the moment called The Escapist, about a prison 
break, made by means of underground passages. At some point, the escapees 
reach the capital-U Underground, in the shape of an abandoned station, 
Union Street. There's WW2 paraphernalia on the floor, and a copy of the 
1941 tube map on the wall:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clive.billson/tubemaps/1941.html

Which is utterly distinctive because of the way interchanges are shown.

I didn't spot Union Street on that map, but my companion did, and he said 
it was just east of Elephant & Castle. There is a Union Street in 
Southwark, but north of Elephant. However, the prison is described as 
"south of the river", and they walk through the tunnels to Charing Cross, 
so either of those makes sense. I'm afraid i couldn't tell you if it was 
on the Bakerloo or the Northern line, though!

I don't think there are any prisons in that vicinity - perhaps the 
producers thought HMP Clink was still in operation? Or, more 
geographically but less comically, Marshalsea or Horsemonger Lane.

Anyway, it's a decent enough film, so if you're stuck for something to do 
and like fairly well-acted crime capers, give it a go.

tom

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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:34:28 +0100, Tom Anderson
 wrote:

>Evening all,
>
>One for the collectors of fictitious underground stations - and in 
>particular for the specialists who like fictitious abandoned underground 
>stations!
>
>There's a film out at the moment called The Escapist, about a prison 
>break, made by means of underground passages. At some point, the escapees 
>reach the capital-U Underground, in the shape of an abandoned station, 
>Union Street. There's WW2 paraphernalia on the floor, and a copy of the 
>1941 tube map on the wall:
>
>http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clive.billson/tubemaps/1941.html
>
>Which is utterly distinctive because of the way interchanges are shown.

Indeed. I saw this film on Sunday and commented to my companion
"that's definitely a WWII-era tube map" and she thought I was bonkers
:-)

>I didn't spot Union Street on that map, but my companion did, and he said 
>it was just east of Elephant & Castle. There is a Union Street in 
>Southwark, but north of Elephant. However, the prison is described as 
>"south of the river", and they walk through the tunnels to Charing Cross, 
>so either of those makes sense. I'm afraid i couldn't tell you if it was 
>on the Bakerloo or the Northern line, though!
>
>I don't think there are any prisons in that vicinity - perhaps the 
>producers thought HMP Clink was still in operation? Or, more 
>geographically but less comically, Marshalsea or Horsemonger Lane.

The letter that Perry receives names the prison - though I can't
recall now what it was, it was fictitious, though I remember it did
have an SE1 postcode.

The actual prison used for the set is in Dublin, FWIW. 

>Anyway, it's a decent enough film, so if you're stuck for something to do 
>and like fairly well-acted crime capers, give it a go.

Agreed. I loved it, which surprised me as the reviews have been
generally positive.

James Farrar wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:34:28 +0100, Tom Anderson
>  wrote:
> 
>> Evening all,
>> 
>> One for the collectors of fictitious underground stations - and in
>> particular for the specialists who like fictitious abandoned
>> underground stations!
>> 
>> There's a film out at the moment called The Escapist, about a prison
>> break, made by means of underground passages. At some point, the
>> escapees reach the capital-U Underground, in the shape of an
>> abandoned station, Union Street. There's WW2 paraphernalia on the
>> floor, and a copy of the 1941 tube map on the wall:
>> 
>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clive.billson/tubemaps/1941.html
>> 
>> Which is utterly distinctive because of the way interchanges are
>> shown. 
> 
> Indeed. I saw this film on Sunday and commented to my companion
> "that's definitely a WWII-era tube map" and she thought I was bonkers

...or just needed to get out more!

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:53:19 +0100, "Stephen O'Connell"
 wrote:

>James Farrar wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:34:28 +0100, Tom Anderson
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Evening all,
>>> 
>>> One for the collectors of fictitious underground stations - and in
>>> particular for the specialists who like fictitious abandoned
>>> underground stations!
>>> 
>>> There's a film out at the moment called The Escapist, about a prison
>>> break, made by means of underground passages. At some point, the
>>> escapees reach the capital-U Underground, in the shape of an
>>> abandoned station, Union Street. There's WW2 paraphernalia on the
>>> floor, and a copy of the 1941 tube map on the wall:
>>> 
>>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clive.billson/tubemaps/1941.html
>>> 
>>> Which is utterly distinctive because of the way interchanges are
>>> shown. 
>> 
>> Indeed. I saw this film on Sunday and commented to my companion
>> "that's definitely a WWII-era tube map" and she thought I was bonkers
>
>...or just needed to get out more!

She already knew that ;)

"Stephen O'Connell"  wrote in message 
news:Fyh8k.26031$j7.470202@news.indigo.ie...
> James Farrar wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:34:28 +0100, Tom Anderson
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Evening all,
>>>
>>> One for the collectors of fictitious underground stations - and in
>>> particular for the specialists who like fictitious abandoned
>>> underground stations!
>>>
>>> There's a film out at the moment called The Escapist, about a prison
>>> break, made by means of underground passages. At some point, the
>>> escapees reach the capital-U Underground, in the shape of an
>>> abandoned station, Union Street. There's WW2 paraphernalia on the
>>> floor, and a copy of the 1941 tube map on the wall:
>>>
>>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clive.billson/tubemaps/1941.html
>>>

There apparently is such a station in New York City.

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> "Stephen O'Connell"  wrote in message
> news:Fyh8k.26031$j7.470202@news.indigo.ie...
>> James Farrar wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:34:28 +0100, Tom Anderson
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's a film out at the moment called The Escapist, about a prison
>>>> break, made by means of underground passages. At some point, the
>>>> escapees reach the capital-U Underground, in the shape of an
>>>> abandoned station, Union Street.
>
> There apparently is such a station in New York City.

So there is:

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/stations?216:2870

There's also a Union Square:

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/stations?203:2866

But, unusually for a US city, no Union Station! Although it seems one was 
mooted, in the Bronx:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9D0CE2DF1E30E132A25750C0A96E9C946397D6CF
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9406E4DD1E30E132A25756C0A9669D946397D6CF
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9F03EEDF123DE433A25751C0A9679D946397D6CF

The 2nd of november article has a map which puts it here:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=40.810732,-73.930414&ie=UTF8&t=k&z=17

tom

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"Tom Anderson"  wrote in message 
news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0806251952360.8136@urchin.earth.li...
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
>> "Stephen O'Connell"  wrote in message
>> news:Fyh8k.26031$j7.470202@news.indigo.ie...
>>> James Farrar wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:34:28 +0100, Tom Anderson
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There's a film out at the moment called The Escapist, about a prison
>>>>> break, made by means of underground passages. At some point, the
>>>>> escapees reach the capital-U Underground, in the shape of an
>>>>> abandoned station, Union Street.
>>
>> There apparently is such a station in New York City.
>
> So there is:
>
I didn't clarify myself. Apparently, there was a phantom station somewhere 
out in Brooklyn, the existence of which the relevant authorities have 
denied.

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> "Tom Anderson"  wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0806251952360.8136@urchin.earth.li...
>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>>
>>> "Stephen O'Connell"  wrote in message
>>> news:Fyh8k.26031$j7.470202@news.indigo.ie...
>>>> James Farrar wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:34:28 +0100, Tom Anderson
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a film out at the moment called The Escapist, about a prison
>>>>>> break, made by means of underground passages. At some point, the
>>>>>> escapees reach the capital-U Underground, in the shape of an
>>>>>> abandoned station, Union Street.
>>>
>>> There apparently is such a station in New York City.
>>
>> So there is:
>
> I didn't clarify myself. Apparently, there was a phantom station 
> somewhere out in Brooklyn, the existence of which the relevant 
> authorities have denied.

Ah! I don't think that's analogous to what was in the film. But it's still 
interesting (more so!) - can you tell us any more?

tom

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"Tom Anderson"  wrote in message 
news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0806252359580.28411@urchin.earth.li...
>>
>> I didn't clarify myself. Apparently, there was a phantom station 
>> somewhere out in Brooklyn, the existence of which the relevant 
>> authorities have denied.
>
> Ah! I don't think that's analogous to what was in the film. But it's still 
> interesting (more so!) - can you tell us any more?
>
> tom
>
> -- 

I read about it on nyc.transit.

Apparently there was a station that either opened up, but closed a few days 
later or it was projected and half built. I'm not sure what the situation is 
with that.

hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> "Tom Anderson"  wrote in message 
> news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0806252359580.28411@urchin.earth.li...
> 
>>>I didn't clarify myself. Apparently, there was a phantom station 
>>>somewhere out in Brooklyn, the existence of which the relevant 
>>>authorities have denied.
>>
>>Ah! I don't think that's analogous to what was in the film. But it's still 
>>interesting (more so!) - can you tell us any more?
>>
>>tom
>>
>>-- 
> 
> 
> I read about it on nyc.transit.
> 
> Apparently there was a station that either opened up, but closed a few days 
> later or it was projected and half built. I'm not sure what the situation is 
> with that. 
> 
> 
I think you are referring to the *76th* Street station:

http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/abandoned/76st.html

After reading the page be sure to look at the date.

It would have been the stop after Euclid had the line stayed underground 
instead of using the BMT el to Lefferts.  The NY Division of the ERA had 
published proposed track layout back in 2004.

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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, Joseph D. Korman wrote:

> hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>> "Tom Anderson"  wrote in message 
>> news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0806252359580.28411@urchin.earth.li...
>> 
>>>> I didn't clarify myself. Apparently, there was a phantom station 
>>>> somewhere out in Brooklyn, the existence of which the relevant 
>>>> authorities have denied.
>>> 
>>> Ah! I don't think that's analogous to what was in the film. But it's still 
>>> interesting (more so!) - can you tell us any more?
>> 
>> I read about it on nyc.transit.
>> 
>> Apparently there was a station that either opened up, but closed a few days 
>> later or it was projected and half built. I'm not sure what the situation 
>> is with that. 
>
> I think you are referring to the *76th* Street station:
>
> http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/abandoned/76st.html
>
> After reading the page be sure to look at the date.

1948, you mean?

:)

tom

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came with a letter accusing me of stealing eggs. I had never understood
the relationship of the map to the accusation. I still don't, but I'm
grateful for the map.

Tom Anderson wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, Joseph D. Korman wrote:
> 
>> hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>>
>>> "Tom Anderson"  wrote in message 
>>> news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0806252359580.28411@urchin.earth.li...
>>>
>>>>> I didn't clarify myself. Apparently, there was a phantom station 
>>>>> somewhere out in Brooklyn, the existence of which the relevant 
>>>>> authorities have denied.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah! I don't think that's analogous to what was in the film. But it's 
>>>> still interesting (more so!) - can you tell us any more?
>>>
>>>
>>> I read about it on nyc.transit.
>>>
>>> Apparently there was a station that either opened up, but closed a 
>>> few days later or it was projected and half built. I'm not sure what 
>>> the situation is with that. 
>>
>>
>> I think you are referring to the *76th* Street station:
>>
>> http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/abandoned/76st.html
>>
>> After reading the page be sure to look at the date.
> 
> 
> 1948, you mean?
> 
> :)
> 
> tom
> 
I'm not saying :-D

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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:15:56 -0400, "Joseph D. Korman"
 wrote:

>I think you are referring to the *76th* Street station:
>
>http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/abandoned/76st.html
>
>After reading the page be sure to look at the date.

French speakers might like this similar article about Paris:
http://www.metro-pole.net/actu/article941.html

It would never work here in the UK, our government's not that good at
keeping secrets...

Richard.