On 29 May, 19:51, Martin D. Pay 
wrote:
> >In message <Efv%j.11077$DZ6.8...@text.news.virginmedia.com>, at 10:07:32
> >on Thu, 29 May 2008, Richard J.  remarked:
> >>'The contractors were jacking up the bridge. The jack collapsed and
>
> >And this was happening while trains were running underneath ?!?!?!
>
> Indeed. I have no doubt that HSE will have some fairly robust
> views on this, once the investigation has finished - and they
> tend not to take prisoners...

Indeed not.....it was reported above that the actual jacking had been
done *overnight*....other work with bearings was going on (not that
this actually caused the bridge to drop necessarily - the reason will
come out eventually) at the tie thatthe jack gave out on onecorner of
the bridge) and, according to the NR statement, "a concrete
slab" (that's 'a', i.e. ONE) fell off the bridge onto the track.

One unconfirmed report has that it broke the cab windscreen, but I
doubt it, personally - just like a passenger being quoted as saying
that there was debris all over the track.....yes, dear, it'scalled
ballast!


With the info currently available, I see no reason why they couldn't
have been working where they were. There's no proof yet that whatever
they were doing actually caused the problem anyway.

> How much damage was done to the OHLE? There must have been
> *some*, surely?

From one slab?....quite possibly, none at all.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/2505_trowbridge.shtml

JOBLESS grandad Glyn Trowbridge and his runaway schoolgirl lover emerged 
from hiding last night to declare: "We are in love-and we ARE going to get 
married."
Gap-toothed Trowbridge, 45, and pretty 16-year-old Lisa Wright disappeared 
together as details of their bizarre relationship hit the headlines, 
sickening every parent in Britain.

But the odd couple have now broken their silence on their "forbidden love" 
in an exclusive interview with the News of the World.

And the defiant teenager-whose frantic mum called in police after Lisa took 
off four weeks ago- insisted: "I find everything attractive about Glyn. 
We've no money so there's no presents, but that wouldn't bother me anyway. 
He's always there for me."

Then in words that will horrify her worried mum, Lisa revealed: "We have sex 
up to four times a day. And it's me who usually asks Glyn.

"I can't keep my hands off him. We're using condoms but I want to go on the 
Pill soon."

CLICK HERE TO TELL US WHAT YOU THINK

In a string of astonishing statements, penniless, twice-married Glyn 
desperately tried to defend what he's done but confessed he:

CANNOT support Lisa and is dependent on emergency benefits.

SMOKED cannabis in the past and drank a bottle of brandy a DAY.

PLANS to buy Lisa a £400 engagement ring, despite being broke, and whisk her 
to a Barbados wedding.

SHARES little in common with her apart from a disturbing history of mental 
trauma.

WANTS to prove his love by having a tattoo of her name-to replace the one he 
had done in tribute to his second wife four months ago!

News of the scandal broke after Lisa vanished in her school uniform and 
failed to turn up for classes, just weeks before her GCSE exams.

Frantic mum Angela, 45, called the cops, put up posters and pleaded for her 
daughter to come home.

But it soon emerged she was holed up with friend of the family Glyn, who has 
SIX children and FOUR grandkids.

It was there, in his grubby one-bedroomed flat, above a row of Dagenham 
shops in the borderlands between East London and Essex, that the odd couple 
first had sex.

As they spoke to us, doe-eyed young Lisa hugged Glyn constantly, mouthing 
the words "I love you" over and again.

Glyn is fully aware of the universal outrage and condemnation raining down 
on him. But he insists the relationship will last.

Speaking with a lisp, caused by having two front teeth knocked out in a 
dust-up with estranged wife Sharon, he claimed: "I'm not some dirty old man 
corrupting a young girl.

"She's got her own mind and we're in love.

"We've tried to explain the situation but people just call it sick and 
disgusting. But I don't look at Lisa and see a 16-year-old. I see a woman.

"When I first saw Lisa it was an instant attraction -like a thunderbolt hit 
me."

Bizarrely, despite knowing Lisa's family well-he went to school with her mum 
and his son fathered a baby with Lisa's sister-Glyn claims he had "no idea" 
how young she was when they met.

He was visiting newborn granddaughter Frankie at the Wrights' home when Lisa 
says SHE made the first move, kissing Glyn as they smoked in the garden. 
That led to secret dates at his flat.

"I didn't realise she was 16," said Glyn, "Then one day she told me she had 
school next day and it clicked. I just held my head in my hands. I thought, 
'This can't happen.' I did step back a bit, but you can't help how you feel. 
I was smitten."

Lisa, who once tried to kill herself over problems at school, says she was 
instantly drawn to Glyn too.

She gushed: "I love everything about him. Even the gap in his teeth. I 
sometimes push my tongue through it when we kiss. I like running my hands 
through his hair, I like his eyes. He has these funny little ears with 
pointy ends. I like it when he grows a bit of stubble and it's a bit rough."

Then, with the naive honesty of a child, Lisa added: "I just love him. He 
looks after me. He makes me dinner. He sucks my big toe, runs my baths, 
makes me breakfast, moisturises my legs, brushes my hair and even dyes it. 
If I need anyone to talk to, he's there."

With no hint of regret, the pair spoke openly in their astonishing 
inter-view-which can be seen on video on our website notw.co.uk-of the first 
time they had sex, although Lisa admitted she lost her virginity two years 
ago with an 18-year-old boyfriend. Glyn-whose name is really Nigel-said: 
"We're very sexually compatible and have a very passionate relationship. 
There's no stopping us. That first time wasn't planned, I'm quite a shy 
person really. But it was really intense."

Lisa added: "It was quite romantic really. We couldn't have any of the 
lights on in case anyone saw and realised we were in the flat, so we just 
had this one candle burning.

"It didn't feel awkward or anything. This isn't a case of Glyn taking 
advantage of me. I know exactly what I'm doing. I knew how old Glyn was and 
it didn't bother me.

"Mentally, I'm not a 16-year-old and I don't really get along with people my 
own age. I've never gone out with anyone younger than me.

"But Glyn's far more mature than any of the boys I've been out with."

He may be mature but he's out of work, after quitting a job in a recycling 
plant complaining the dust affected his lungs. He gets £65-a-week housing 
allowance but his £60 jobseeker's allowance was stopped for allegedly 
missing appointments. He hopes to get £120 backdated but meanwhile relies on 
an £80 crisis benefits loan to buy food.

In the search for Lisa, cops raided Glyn's flat and found her love notes, 
perfume and clothes. The pair had fled to a friend's place in Essex, but 
when officers quizzed them they were satisfied Lisa left home of her own 
free will and said they could do no more.

Not surprisingly, her separated parents, forklift driver David and dental 
nurse Angela, are appalled. Lisa said: "Dad and I have never been close. But 
I do see him."He was really angry when he heard about Glyn and asked me if I 
was looking for a father figure. Just to shut him him up I said yes. 
Although it wasn't true he seemed happy with that.

"But a week after I left home he sent me a text which said, 'At least you 
had the courage to phone your mum. She was reduced to a wreck and I don't 
think she'll ever get over what's happened. Make sure you keep in contact 
with her. Me? I just think you are a ****. Goodbye.'

"That wasn't very nice. I hope one day he understands. Mum told me she 
doesn't hate me and I can come back to live at Glyn's flat if I want. But I 
don't know if I believe it."

Glyn has been married to estranged wife Sharon, 42, for 10 years and they 
have five children aged 13 to 24- although he admits to having another 
daughter of 24, now a mum of two, from a fling with a woman whose name he 
can't recall.

Sharon described Glyn as an "alcoholic schizophrenic" and begged him to take 
Lisa back home.

But Glyn insisted: "That's just ridiculous. I used to drink- I've suffered 
with depression and I drank while my marriage was falling apart I used to 
drink a bottle of brandy, not every day-I couldn't afford to. And years ago 
I smoked cannabis. I do drink lager-when I can get six for a fiver. But I 
can go a couple of weeks without a drink.

"Then I might go on a session. I'm in no way an alcoholic-or a 
schizophrenic. I get angry just like other people but I'm not a violent 
man."

But then he adds: "Sharon and I had punch-ups, I'm not denying it. But if I 
was going to punch her properly, I'd have broken her jaw, and there's no 
physical scars on that woman at all.

"She's hit me, I've hit her. But I've never just attacked her. My teeth were 
knocked out during one argument. I can't even remember what it was about. It 
was just so ridiculous.

"I'd never hurt a hair on Lisa's head-ever. Yes, me and my boys have had our 
fights. They can look after themselves. I won't have them talking to their 
mum like cr*p."

Glyn, who says at 11 years old he saw his dad hang himself, had Sharon's 
name tattooed on his right arm just four months ago after she told him she 
had another man.

"I don't know why I did it," he said. "It was a moment of madness. I was 
feeling very depressed and confused. I regret it now and am going to have it 
removed as soon as possible and get one with Lisa's name."

Lisa revealed she too has suffered depression and tried to kill herself when 
she was 11 and bullied at school. She said: "I ended up in hospital after an 
overdose and cutting my wrists with razor blades."

Meanwhile, her heartbroken mum is still desperate for her to come home and 
resume her education. Angela, 45, said: "She's thrown her future away for 
this man. I've no idea what she sees in him. He's no Brad Pitt."

Despite describing themselves as soulmates, it's clear the couple have 
little in common.

Lisa said: "To be honest I like the music you'd think Glyn should prefer- 
David Bowie, Pink Floyd and Status Quo. But he likes Oasis, Will Young and 
Boyzone." Glyn said: "On TV I like sci-fi and action films. But Lisa's not 
too keen. Lisa loves watching Friends but I don't like that American 
humour."

Lisa and Glyn are already thinking about marriage. Glyn said: "We've talked 
of flying to Barbados to do it. As soon as she's 18 we'll do it. I've seen a 
£400 engagement ring at a jeweller's in Dagenham so I'll have to start 
saving and get a job.

"In my heart I know what we're doing is seen as wrong. If I wasn't going 
through this I wouldn't be too happy if MY teenage daughter was with a man 
of 45. But for me it's right. I'm going to lose friends but I'm prepared to 
lose everything.

"We get funny stares when we walk down the street holding hands, but we can 
deal with all that. I'm fed up with running."

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> "Avenger"  wrote in message
> news:PxJ%j.3352$ZM.2980@trndny06...
>> http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/2505_trowbridge.shtml
>>
>> JOBLESS grandad Glyn Trowbridge and his runaway schoolgirl lover emerged
>> from hiding last night to declare: "We are in love-and we ARE going to 
>> get
>> married."
>> Gap-toothed Trowbridge, 45, and pretty 16-year-old Lisa Wright 
>> disappeared
>> together as details of their bizarre relationship hit the headlines,
>> sickening every parent in Britain.
>>
>> But the odd couple have now broken their silence on their "forbidden 
>> love"
>> in an exclusive interview with the News of the World.
>>
>> And the defiant teenager-whose frantic mum called in police after Lisa 
>> took
>> off four weeks ago- insisted: "I find everything attractive about Glyn.
>> We've no money so there's no presents, but that wouldn't bother me 
>> anyway.
>> He's always there for me."
>>
>> Then in words that will horrify her worried mum, Lisa revealed: "We have 
>> sex
>> up to four times a day. And it's me who usually asks Glyn.
>>
>> "I can't keep my hands off him. We're using condoms but I want to go on 
>> the
>> Pill soon."
>>
>> CLICK HERE TO TELL US WHAT YOU THINK
>>
>> In a string of astonishing statements, penniless, twice-married Glyn
>> desperately tried to defend what he's done but confessed he:
>>
>> CANNOT support Lisa and is dependent on emergency benefits.
>>
>> SMOKED cannabis in the past and drank a bottle of brandy a DAY.
>>
>> PLANS to buy Lisa a £400 engagement ring, despite being broke, and whisk 
>> her
>> to a Barbados wedding.
>>
>> SHARES little in common with her apart from a disturbing history of 
>> mental
>> trauma.
>>
>> WANTS to prove his love by having a tattoo of her name-to replace the one 
>> he
>> had done in tribute to his second wife four months ago!
>>
>> News of the scandal broke after Lisa vanished in her school uniform and
>> failed to turn up for classes, just weeks before her GCSE exams.
>>
>> Frantic mum Angela, 45, called the cops, put up posters and pleaded for 
>> her
>> daughter to come home.
>>
>> But it soon emerged she was holed up with friend of the family Glyn, who 
>> has
>> SIX children and FOUR grandkids.
>>
>> It was there, in his grubby one-bedroomed flat, above a row of Dagenham
>> shops in the borderlands between East London and Essex, that the odd 
>> couple
>> first had sex.
>>
>> As they spoke to us, doe-eyed young Lisa hugged Glyn constantly, mouthing
>> the words "I love you" over and again.
>>
>> Glyn is fully aware of the universal outrage and condemnation raining 
>> down
>> on him. But he insists the relationship will last.
>>
>> Speaking with a lisp, caused by having two front teeth knocked out in a
>> dust-up with estranged wife Sharon, he claimed: "I'm not some dirty old 
>> man
>> corrupting a young girl.
>>
>> "She's got her own mind and we're in love.
>>
>> "We've tried to explain the situation but people just call it sick and
>> disgusting. But I don't look at Lisa and see a 16-year-old. I see a 
>> woman.
>>
>> "When I first saw Lisa it was an instant attraction -like a thunderbolt 
>> hit
>> me."
>>
>> Bizarrely, despite knowing Lisa's family well-he went to school with her 
>> mum
>> and his son fathered a baby with Lisa's sister-Glyn claims he had "no 
>> idea"
>> how young she was when they met.
>>
>> He was visiting newborn granddaughter Frankie at the Wrights' home when 
>> Lisa
>> says SHE made the first move, kissing Glyn as they smoked in the garden.
>> That led to secret dates at his flat.
>>
>> "I didn't realise she was 16," said Glyn, "Then one day she told me she 
>> had
>> school next day and it clicked. I just held my head in my hands. I 
>> thought,
>> 'This can't happen.' I did step back a bit, but you can't help how you 
>> feel.
>> I was smitten."
>>
>> Lisa, who once tried to kill herself over problems at school, says she 
>> was
>> instantly drawn to Glyn too.
>>
>> She gushed: "I love everything about him. Even the gap in his teeth. I
>> sometimes push my tongue through it when we kiss. I like running my hands
>> through his hair, I like his eyes. He has these funny little ears with
>> pointy ends. I like it when he grows a bit of stubble and it's a bit 
>> rough."
>>
>> Then, with the naive honesty of a child, Lisa added: "I just love him. He
>> looks after me. He makes me dinner. He sucks my big toe, runs my baths,
>> makes me breakfast, moisturises my legs, brushes my hair and even dyes 
>> it.
>> If I need anyone to talk to, he's there."
>>
>> With no hint of regret, the pair spoke openly in their astonishing
>> inter-view-which can be seen on video on our website notw.co.uk-of the 
>> first
>> time they had sex, although Lisa admitted she lost her virginity two 
>> years
>> ago with an 18-year-old boyfriend. Glyn-whose name is really Nigel-said:
>> "We're very sexually compatible and have a very passionate relationship.
>> There's no stopping us. That first time wasn't planned, I'm quite a shy
>> person really. But it was really intense."
>>
>> Lisa added: "It was quite romantic really. We couldn't have any of the
>> lights on in case anyone saw and realised we were in the flat, so we just
>> had this one candle burning.
>>
>> "It didn't feel awkward or anything. This isn't a case of Glyn taking
>> advantage of me. I know exactly what I'm doing. I knew how old Glyn was 
>> and
>> it didn't bother me.
>>
>> "Mentally, I'm not a 16-year-old and I don't really get along with people 
>> my
>> own age. I've never gone out with anyone younger than me.
>>
>> "But Glyn's far more mature than any of the boys I've been out with."
>>
>> He may be mature but he's out of work, after quitting a job in a 
>> recycling
>> plant complaining the dust affected his lungs. He gets £65-a-week housing
>> allowance but his £60 jobseeker's allowance was stopped for allegedly
>> missing appointments. He hopes to get £120 backdated but meanwhile relies 
>> on
>> an £80 crisis benefits loan to buy food.
>>
>> In the search for Lisa, cops raided Glyn's flat and found her love notes,
>> perfume and clothes. The pair had fled to a friend's place in Essex, but
>> when officers quizzed them they were satisfied Lisa left home of her own
>> free will and said they could do no more.
>>
>> Not surprisingly, her separated parents, forklift driver David and dental
>> nurse Angela, are appalled. Lisa said: "Dad and I have never been close. 
>> But
>> I do see him."He was really angry when he heard about Glyn and asked me 
>> if I
>> was looking for a father figure. Just to shut him him up I said yes.
>> Although it wasn't true he seemed happy with that.
>>
>> "But a week after I left home he sent me a text which said, 'At least you
>> had the courage to phone your mum. She was reduced to a wreck and I don't
>> think she'll ever get over what's happened. Make sure you keep in contact
>> with her. Me? I just think you are a ****. Goodbye.'
>>
>> "That wasn't very nice. I hope one day he understands. Mum told me she
>> doesn't hate me and I can come back to live at Glyn's flat if I want. But 
>> I
>> don't know if I believe it."
>>
>> Glyn has been married to estranged wife Sharon, 42, for 10 years and they
>> have five children aged 13 to 24- although he admits to having another
>> daughter of 24, now a mum of two, from a fling with a woman whose name he
>> can't recall.
>>
>> Sharon described Glyn as an "alcoholic schizophrenic" and begged him to 
>> take
>> Lisa back home.
>>
>> But Glyn insisted: "That's just ridiculous. I used to drink- I've 
>> suffered
>> with depression and I drank while my marriage was falling apart I used to
>> drink a bottle of brandy, not every day-I couldn't afford to. And years 
>> ago
>> I smoked cannabis. I do drink lager-when I can get six for a fiver. But I
>> can go a couple of weeks without a drink.
>>
>> "Then I might go on a session. I'm in no way an alcoholic-or a
>> schizophrenic. I get angry just like other people but I'm not a violent
>> man."
>>
>> But then he adds: "Sharon and I had punch-ups, I'm not denying it. But if 
>> I
>> was going to punch her properly, I'd have broken her jaw, and there's no
>> physical scars on that woman at all.
>>
>> "She's hit me, I've hit her. But I've never just attacked her. My teeth 
>> were
>> knocked out during one argument. I can't even remember what it was about. 
>> It
>> was just so ridiculous.
>>
>> "I'd never hurt a hair on Lisa's head-ever. Yes, me and my boys have had 
>> our
>> fights. They can look after themselves. I won't have them talking to 
>> their
>> mum like cr*p."
>>
>> Glyn, who says at 11 years old he saw his dad hang himself, had Sharon's
>> name tattooed on his right arm just four months ago after she told him 
>> she
>> had another man.
>>
>> "I don't know why I did it," he said. "It was a moment of madness. I was
>> feeling very depressed and confused. I regret it now and am going to have 
>> it
>> removed as soon as possible and get one with Lisa's name."
>>
>> Lisa revealed she too has suffered depression and tried to kill herself 
>> when
>> she was 11 and bullied at school. She said: "I ended up in hospital after 
>> an
>> overdose and cutting my wrists with razor blades."
>>
>> Meanwhile, her heartbroken mum is still desperate for her to come home 
>> and
>> resume her education. Angela, 45, said: "She's thrown her future away for
>> this man. I've no idea what she sees in him. He's no Brad Pitt."
>>
>> Despite describing themselves as soulmates, it's clear the couple have
>> little in common.
>>
>> Lisa said: "To be honest I like the music you'd think Glyn should prefer-
>> David Bowie, Pink Floyd and Status Quo. But he likes Oasis, Will Young 
>> and
>> Boyzone." Glyn said: "On TV I like sci-fi and action films. But Lisa's 
>> not
>> too keen. Lisa loves watching Friends but I don't like that American
>> humour."
>>
>> Lisa and Glyn are already thinking about marriage. Glyn said: "We've 
>> talked
>> of flying to Barbados to do it. As soon as she's 18 we'll do it. I've 
>> seen a
>> £400 engagement ring at a jeweller's in Dagenham so I'll have to start
>> saving and get a job.
>>
>> "In my heart I know what we're doing is seen as wrong. If I wasn't going
>> through this I wouldn't be too happy if MY teenage daughter was with a 
>> man
>> of 45. But for me it's right. I'm going to lose friends but I'm prepared 
>> to
>> lose everything.
>>
>> "We get funny stares when we walk down the street holding hands, but we 
>> can
>> deal with all that. I'm fed up with running."
>>
>>
> IOW just another "happy" UK family. :-)
>
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