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date: Fri, 16 May 2008 17:31:57 +0100,
group: uk.transport.london
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Re: Boris - remove this absurd Oyster vs cash cost disparity
On Tue, 13 May 2008 15:10:55 +0100, Peter Beale
wrote:
>We had a short visit to Paris in January and got the 3-day Zones 1-3
>Paris Visite ticket for 19 and used it extensively on Metro, buses,
>Montmartre funicular. We managed to use 4 of the discounted offers - Arc
>de Triomphe, Opéra Nationale, Bâteaux Parisiens, Grand'Arche de la
>Défense - and certainly didn't regard them as "dubious" attractions, and
> all in all thought it quite good value.
Yes, all good stuff, although I don't think I've ever used these
reductions.
>On previous visits I have used
>the "Carte Orange", notably while camping out at Maisons-Laffite, but I
>think it is not available for less than a week - and now comes in the
>form of "Navigo" (French for Oyster!) and costing more for those not
>resident in Ile-de-France.
Yes, it's a week or a month (or a year for the differently-branded
"Intégrale"). Unfortunately it's still a fixed week (Mon-Sun) or
month. Even with the Carte Orange now officially available for
aliens, this "feature" prevents its use for long weekends, etc. I
don't believe it costs more for non-residents, however, except that
the card costs 5 euros and isn't replaced if lost...
Richard.
date: Fri, 16 May 2008 17:31:57 +0100
author: Richard
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Re: Boris - remove this absurd Oyster vs cash cost disparity
Richard wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2008 15:10:55 +0100, Peter Beale
> wrote:
>> We had a short visit to Paris in January and got the 3-day Zones 1-3
>> Paris Visite ticket for 19 and used it extensively on Metro, buses,
>> Montmartre funicular. We managed to use 4 of the discounted offers - Arc
>> de Triomphe, Opéra Nationale, Bâteaux Parisiens, Grand'Arche de la
>> Défense - and certainly didn't regard them as "dubious" attractions, and
>> all in all thought it quite good value.
>
> Yes, all good stuff, although I don't think I've ever used these
> reductions.
>
>> On previous visits I have used
>> the "Carte Orange", notably while camping out at Maisons-Laffite, but I
>> think it is not available for less than a week - and now comes in the
>> form of "Navigo" (French for Oyster!) and costing more for those not
>> resident in Ile-de-France.
>
> Yes, it's a week or a month (or a year for the differently-branded
> "Intégrale"). Unfortunately it's still a fixed week (Mon-Sun) or
> month. Even with the Carte Orange now officially available for
> aliens, this "feature" prevents its use for long weekends, etc. I
> don't believe it costs more for non-residents, however, except that
> the card costs 5 euros and isn't replaced if lost...
>
I realize that on checking the RATP site again - there is le passe
Navigo for Ile-de-France residents, and le passe Navigo Découverte for
non-residents, as you say - for some reason I had it in my mind that
there were two scales of fares.
Peter Beale
date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:37:38 +0100
author: Peter Beale
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