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date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:04:39 +0000,    group: uk.transport.buses        back       
Bus fire   
Do we still have someone who works for Arrive in Durham City on here 
somwhere? If so, could you tell us what happened to the number 64 to the 
Sherburn Estate this morning that was letting go of a lot of smoke, 
seemed to have dropped something on fire onto the road near the rear of 
the vehicle and required one fire engine and 2 police cars.

Passed it on my way to work around 8am this morning (Monday the 13th... 
Garfield was right!) at the Sherburn Road Ends (Sherburn Road side).

For those who are interested, it was a DAF SB220LF / Plaxton Prestige 
(as shown on http://arrivanortheastbusphotos.fotopic.net/c688861.html). 
Not sure if it was an engine fire or something in the passenger saloon. 
Looked to be engine as something looked to have dropped off and was on 
fire on the road surface toward the rear, and I'm sure some of the smoke 
was venting through the fuel cap (although I was trying to drive past at 
the time, albeit slowly due to the junction) so it may have been an 
optical illusion. The amount of smoke also seemed too much for a seat or 
2 to be on fire and there was quite some smell passing the bus.
date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:04:39 +0000   author:   Neil Shaw

Re: Bus fire   
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:04:39, Neil Shaw 
wrote:
>
>For those who are interested, it was a DAF SB220LF / Plaxton Prestige 
>(as shown on http://arrivanortheastbusphotos.fotopic.net/c688861.html). 

I must shamefully admit I wasn't aware of the Prestige - the Verde is
the bus body I associate with Plaxton around that time, possibly
because Cardiff Bus had several on Scania N113 chassis.

The Verde was a poor design - Cardiff also bought a number of Scanias
with Alexander Strider bodies, which were far more solid.

Did the Prestige replace the Verde, or were they built in parallel?

Paul Harley

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date: 13 Feb 2006 23:12:16 +0100   author:   Paul Harley

Re: Re: Bus fire   
On 13 Feb 2006 23:12:16 +0100, Paul Harley 
wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:04:39, Neil Shaw 
>wrote:
>>
>>For those who are interested, it was a DAF SB220LF / Plaxton Prestige 
>>(as shown on http://arrivanortheastbusphotos.fotopic.net/c688861.html). 
>
>I must shamefully admit I wasn't aware of the Prestige - the Verde is
>the bus body I associate with Plaxton around that time, possibly
>because Cardiff Bus had several on Scania N113 chassis.
>
>The Verde was a poor design - Cardiff also bought a number of Scanias
>with Alexander Strider bodies, which were far more solid.
>

You could make better bodies than Plaxtons by using nothing but Lego
and gaffer tape.

Alex
date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:03:37 +0000   author:   Alex

Re: Bus fire   
The Verde was replaced by the Prestige as was the Northern Counties
Paladin; it started as the Paladin LF and was built at Wigan on (if
memory serves) Daf SB220LF and Volvo B10BLE.

Stephen Allcroft
Cardross
Scotland


Paul Harley wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:04:39, Neil Shaw 
> wrote:
> >
> >For those who are interested, it was a DAF SB220LF / Plaxton Prestige
> >(as shown on http://arrivanortheastbusphotos.fotopic.net/c688861.html).
>
> I must shamefully admit I wasn't aware of the Prestige - the Verde is
> the bus body I associate with Plaxton around that time, possibly
> because Cardiff Bus had several on Scania N113 chassis.
>
> The Verde was a poor design - Cardiff also bought a number of Scanias
> with Alexander Strider bodies, which were far more solid.
>
> Did the Prestige replace the Verde, or were they built in parallel?
> 
> Paul Harley
> 
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date: 14 Feb 2006 09:34:32 -0800   author:   unknown

Re: Bus fire   
On 14 Feb 2006 09:34:32, stephenallcroft@lycos.co.uk wrote:

>The Verde was replaced by the Prestige as was the Northern Counties
>Paladin; it started as the Paladin LF and was built at Wigan on (if
>memory serves) Daf SB220LF and Volvo B10BLE.

Many thanks.  I thought the Prestige looked somewhat "Northern
Counties-ish" - your response has explained why!

Paul Harley

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date: 14 Feb 2006 19:13:49 +0100   author:   Paul Harley

Re: Bus fire   
Hi

One of my contacts within Arriva NE has heard that it was 4082
(V653LWT) - can this be confirmed.  If so, it has only been back on the
road for a year or so since a new engine and other work after it's last
engine burt into flames........

The DAF 8.65 litre engine is renowned for being somewhat fragile -
presume this was just it giving up in more spectacular style than most.

Jeff

Neil Shaw wrote:
> Do we still have someone who works for Arrive in Durham City on here
> somwhere? If so, could you tell us what happened to the number 64 to the
> Sherburn Estate this morning that was letting go of a lot of smoke,
> seemed to have dropped something on fire onto the road near the rear of
> the vehicle and required one fire engine and 2 police cars.
>
> Passed it on my way to work around 8am this morning (Monday the 13th...
> Garfield was right!) at the Sherburn Road Ends (Sherburn Road side).
>
> For those who are interested, it was a DAF SB220LF / Plaxton Prestige
> (as shown on http://arrivanortheastbusphotos.fotopic.net/c688861.html).
> Not sure if it was an engine fire or something in the passenger saloon.
> Looked to be engine as something looked to have dropped off and was on
> fire on the road surface toward the rear, and I'm sure some of the smoke
> was venting through the fuel cap (although I was trying to drive past at
> the time, albeit slowly due to the junction) so it may have been an
> optical illusion. The amount of smoke also seemed too much for a seat or
> 2 to be on fire and there was quite some smell passing the bus.
date: 16 Feb 2006 13:29:23 -0800   author:   unknown

Nat Exp 570   
Does anyone know what the loadings are like on the overnight Blackpool to 
London and return journey?
date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:34:21 +0000 (UTC)   author:   Paul Mac

Re: Nat Exp 570   
The 570 to Blackpool are very busty at weekends and a little bit quieter 
through the week, but it is still a better to book your ticket in advance to 
make sough you  get a seat.

Keavn

"Paul Mac"  wrote in message 
news:dt2ulc$b19$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> Does anyone know what the loadings are like on the overnight Blackpool to 
> London and return journey?
>
>
date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:19:59 GMT   author:   Kevan J Fenney

Re: Re: Nat Exp 570   
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:19:59 GMT, "Kevan J Fenney"
 wrote:

>The 570 to Blackpool are very busty at weekends 

Pardon? You mean lost of large-chested women?

Alex
date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:51:08 +0000   author:   Alex

Re: Nat Exp 570   
In message , Alex 
 writes
>On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:19:59 GMT, "Kevan J Fenney"
> wrote:
>
>>The 570 to Blackpool are very busty at weekends
>
>Pardon? You mean lost of large-chested women?

Operated by Bovas?!
-- 
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk
date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:10:51 +0000   author:   Ian Jelf

Re: Re: Nat Exp 570   
"Alex"  wrote in message
news:m0jhv1tkpsrpehkae8ef5pgad4sfp8gq9p@4ax.com
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:19:59 GMT, "Kevan J Fenney"
>  wrote:
>
> > The 570 to Blackpool are very busty at weekends
>
> Pardon? You mean lost of large-chested women?

Book me a ticket ;-)

Ivor
date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:24:02 -0000   author:   Ivor Jones lid

Re: Nat Exp 570   
"Kevan J Fenney" typed


> The 570 to Blackpool are very busty at weekends

I see... ;-))

-- 
Helen D. Vecht: helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk
Edgware.
date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:13:41 GMT   author:   Helen Deborah Vecht

Re: Nat Exp 570   
"Kevan J Fenney"  wrote in message
news:zx3Kf.18870$DM.18722@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...


> The 570 to Blackpool are very busty at weekends ....

I thought that they had done away with stewardesses  :)

Regards
Dave Farrier
date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:49:52 -0000   author:   David Farrier

Re: Nat Exp 570   
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:19:59, "Kevan J Fenney"
 wrote:

>The 570 to Blackpool are very busty at weekends

Perhaps the weekend services should be renumbered 42DD?  ;-)

Paul Harley

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date: 20 Feb 2006 14:53:02 +0100   author:   Paul Harley

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