I hope someone is watching the clock to see how long it takes Boris to 
keep his promise on getting rid of Bendy buses and introducing a new 
route master.

Lets see if it was all hot air !

-- 
Edward Cowling   If it screams it's not food yet !!

On Sun, 4 May 2008 11:10:43 +0100, Edward Cowling London UK
 wrote:

>I hope someone is watching the clock to see how long it takes Boris to 
>keep his promise on getting rid of Bendy buses and introducing a new 
>route master.
>
>Lets see if it was all hot air !

It's hot air.
-- 
Paul C

"Paul Corfield"  wrote in message
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> On Sun, 4 May 2008 11:10:43 +0100, Edward Cowling London UK
>  wrote:
>
> >I hope someone is watching the clock to see how long it takes Boris to
> >keep his promise on getting rid of Bendy buses and introducing a new
> >route master.
> >
> >Lets see if it was all hot air !
>
> It's hot air.
>Cannot be done, too expensive, and not cost productive, I wish it could
though

"Edward Cowling London UK"  wrote in message 
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>I hope someone is watching the clock to see how long it takes Boris to keep 
>his promise on getting rid of Bendy buses and introducing a new route 
>master.
>
> Lets see if it was all hot air !
>
> -- 
> Edward Cowling

Might not be any new bendy bus routes, but alternatives will all be modern 
double deckers, not a "new" Routemaster clone.

Bevan

"Bevan Price" <meVIAfreeukFULLSTOPcom> wrote in message 
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>
> "Edward Cowling London UK"  wrote in message 
> news:F4uE12SjuYHIFwgm@genghis0.demon.co.uk...
>>I hope someone is watching the clock to see how long it takes Boris to 
>>keep his promise on getting rid of Bendy buses and introducing a new route 
>>master.
>>
>> Lets see if it was all hot air !
>>
>> -- 
>> Edward Cowling
>
> Might not be any new bendy bus routes, but alternatives will all be modern 
> double deckers, not a "new" Routemaster clone.


Bendy Routemasters?

:o)

On 5 May, 00:23, "Ian D Henden"  wrote:
> "Bevan Price" <meVIAfreeukFULLSTOPcom> wrote in message
>
> news:1209941683.2880.0@proxy00.news.clara.net...
>
>
>
> > "Edward Cowling London UK"  wrote in message
> >news:F4uE12SjuYHIFwgm@genghis0.demon.co.uk...
> >>I hope someone is watching the clock to see how long it takes Boris to
> >>keep his promise on getting rid of Bendy buses and introducing a new route
> >>master.
>
> >> Lets see if it was all hot air !
>
> >> --
> >> Edward Cowling
>
> > Might not be any new bendy bus routes, but alternatives will all be modern
> > double deckers, not a "new" Routemaster clone.
>
> Bendy Routemasters?
>
> :o)

Any one fancy a Bendy Running Day?

On 6 May, 22:13, tony  wrote:
> On 5 May, 00:23, "Ian D Henden"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Bevan Price" <meVIAfreeukFULLSTOPcom> wrote in message
>
> >news:1209941683.2880.0@proxy00.news.clara.net...
>
> > > "Edward Cowling London UK"  wrote in message
> > >news:F4uE12SjuYHIFwgm@genghis0.demon.co.uk...
> > >>I hope someone is watching the clock to see how long it takes Boris to
> > >>keep his promise on getting rid of Bendy buses and introducing a new route
> > >>master.
>
> > >> Lets see if it was all hot air !
>
> > >> --
> > >> Edward Cowling
>
> > > Might not be any new bendy bus routes, but alternatives will all be modern
> > > double deckers, not a "new" Routemaster clone.
>
> > Bendy Routemasters?
>
> > :o)
>
> Any one fancy a Bendy Running Day?

A Bendy Running day? that would be interesting, ill be there .

On 5 May, 00:23, "Ian D Henden"  wrote:
> "Bevan Price" <meVIAfreeukFULLSTOPcom> wrote in message
>
> news:1209941683.2880.0@proxy00.news.clara.net...
>
>
>
> > "Edward Cowling London UK"  wrote in message
> >news:F4uE12SjuYHIFwgm@genghis0.demon.co.uk...
> >>I hope someone is watching the clock to see how long it takes Boris to
> >>keep his promise on getting rid of Bendy buses and introducing a new route
> >>master.
>
> >> Lets see if it was all hot air !
>
> >> --
> >> Edward Cowling
>
> > Might not be any new bendy bus routes, but alternatives will all be modern
> > double deckers, not a "new" Routemaster clone.
>
> Bendy Routemasters?
>
> :o)

Believe it or not an american runs two RTLs as a tractor and
semitrailer; appeared
 in Classic bus some years back

On 4 May, 11:10, Edward Cowling London UK
 wrote:
> I hope someone is watching the clock to see how long it takes Boris to
> keep his promise on getting rid of Bendy buses and introducing a new
> route master.
>
> Lets see if it was all hot air !
>
> --
> Edward Cowling   If it screams it's not food yet !!

What's wrong with bendy buses? I've been on one from the centre of
Paris to the Charles de Gaulle Airport!

There have been few problems in Manchester. The first batch had a few
mechanical problems, small fires I believe. The second batch have no
such problems but a little more thought could have gone into matching
the fleet numbers and vehicle registration plates!

12001 (YN05 GYA)
12002 (YN05 GYB)
12003 (YN05 GYH)
12004 (YN05 GYJ) etc

http://jel-first.fotopic.net/p20239345.html

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:40:30 -0700 (PDT), baggy1963uk@googlemail.com
wrote:


>There have been few problems in Manchester. The first batch had a few
>mechanical problems, small fires I believe. The second batch have no
>such problems but a little more thought could have gone into matching
>the fleet numbers and vehicle registration plates!
>
>12001 (YN05 GYA)
>12002 (YN05 GYB)
>12003 (YN05 GYH)
>12004 (YN05 GYJ) etc
>
>http://jel-first.fotopic.net/p20239345.html
I was on one of the Manchester ones last Saturday and to be honest it
was the most uncomfortable bus ride I have had for quite sometime
a bus with flat tyres would have been less bumpy .

On Jun 11, 2:43 pm, mym...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:40:30 -0700 (PDT), baggy196...@googlemail.com
> wrote:
>
> >There have been few problems in Manchester. The first batch had a few
> >mechanical problems, small fires I believe. The second batch have no
> >such problems but a little more thought could have gone into matching
> >the fleet numbers and vehicle registration plates!
>
> >12001 (YN05 GYA)
> >12002 (YN05 GYB)
> >12003 (YN05 GYH)
> >12004 (YN05 GYJ) etc
>
> >http://jel-first.fotopic.net/p20239345.html
>
> I was on one of the Manchester ones last Saturday and to be honest it
> was the most uncomfortable bus ride I have had for quite sometime
> a bus with flat tyres would have been less bumpy .

Was it one of the 05 regs or the older ones?

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:54:40 -0700 (PDT), Connaire
 wrote:

>On Jun 11, 2:43 pm, mym...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:40:30 -0700 (PDT), baggy196...@googlemail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> >There have been few problems in Manchester. The first batch had a few
>> >mechanical problems, small fires I believe. The second batch have no
>> >such problems but a little more thought could have gone into matching
>> >the fleet numbers and vehicle registration plates!
>>
>> >12001 (YN05 GYA)
>> >12002 (YN05 GYB)
>> >12003 (YN05 GYH)
>> >12004 (YN05 GYJ) etc
>>
>> >http://jel-first.fotopic.net/p20239345.html
>>
>> I was on one of the Manchester ones last Saturday and to be honest it
>> was the most uncomfortable bus ride I have had for quite sometime
>> a bus with flat tyres would have been less bumpy .
>
>Was it one of the 05 regs or the older ones?
Didn't take much notice I had come from Wigan on the X32 service which
goes to Piccadilly at Salford Uni and having asked the driver how to
get to Shude Hill and he stopped at the Uni and said get on the bus
that was behind and it was a bendy bus.
I would not have liked to have traveled for any longer than the
five/ten minutes I was on the damned thing though .

On 11 Jun, 18:43, mym...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:54:40 -0700 (PDT), Connaire
>
>
>
>  wrote:
> >On Jun 11, 2:43 pm, mym...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:40:30 -0700 (PDT), baggy196...@googlemail.com
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >There have been few problems in Manchester. The first batch had a few
> >> >mechanical problems, small fires I believe. The second batch have no
> >> >such problems but a little more thought could have gone into matching
> >> >the fleet numbers and vehicle registration plates!
>
> >> >12001 (YN05 GYA)
> >> >12002 (YN05 GYB)
> >> >12003 (YN05 GYH)
> >> >12004 (YN05 GYJ) etc
>
> >> >http://jel-first.fotopic.net/p20239345.html
>
> >> I was on one of the Manchester ones last Saturday and to be honest it
> >> was the most uncomfortable bus ride I have had for quite sometime
> >> a bus with flat tyres would have been less bumpy .
>
> >Was it one of the 05 regs or the older ones?
>
> Didn't take much notice I had come from Wigan on the X32 service which
> goes to Piccadilly at Salford Uni and having asked the driver how to
> get to Shude Hill and he stopped at the Uni and said get on the bus
> that was behind and it was a bendy bus.
> I would not have liked to have traveled for any longer than the
> five/ten minutes I was on the damned thing though .

Ah one of the old ones yep there god damn awful but then saying that
so is the X32 longest "limted stop "service ever

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:48:36 -0700 (PDT), Connaire
 wrote:

>Ah one of the old ones yep there god damn awful but then saying that
>so is the X32 longest "limted stop "service ever
I suppose but once it has worked its way to the A 580 it does a good
fast sprint into Manchester, would'nt the X43 I think it is Manchester
Burnley be longer than the X 32 though ?. I have traveled on quite a
few " First's"buses over the last couple of months but have yet to
find one with comfortable seats  been like sitting on planks of wood,
the best for seating I have found up to now are our local companies
buses" J Fishwicks&Sons" and "Transdev" buses that work the east
Lancashire routes and west Yorkshire and also Blackburn city services.
Even our local Stagecoach buses are dead uncomfortable to ride any
distance in.

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:11:56 +0100, mymail@hotmail.com wrote in
, seen in
uk.transport.buses:

[...]
> I have traveled on quite a
> few " First's"buses over the last couple of months but have yet to
> find one with comfortable seats  been like sitting on planks of wood,
> the best for seating I have found up to now are our local companies
> buses" J Fishwicks&Sons" and "Transdev" buses that work the east
> Lancashire routes and west Yorkshire and also Blackburn city services.
> Even our local Stagecoach buses are dead uncomfortable to ride any
> distance in.

Be grateful you don't travel in Germany, then. 
Most modern buses (and the newer local trains) in Germany have seats
which appear to be designed to make standing the more comfortable
option.

A day's travelling around (for example) Nordrhein-Westfalen (Cologne,
Dortmund and so on) leaves one with a severely numb bum... :-(

-- 
Ross. 
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:07:05 +0100, Ross 
wrote:


>A day's travelling around (for example) Nordrhein-Westfalen (Cologne,
>Dortmund and so on) leaves one with a severely numb bum... :-(

I haven't traveled in Germany since I came out of the army but I do
travel in Belgium four times a year and the line I travel on Brussels
to De Panne the trains always have old coaches with the imitation
leather seats or is it plastic . By the time I leave the train after a
1 and 3/4 hour journey I have worked up a real sweat in the lower
reaches bloody horrible first thing a shower and a change of clothes
when I get to my hotel :))).

On Jun 11, 10:11 pm, mym...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:48:36 -0700 (PDT), Connaire
>
>  wrote:
> >Ah one of the old ones yep there god damn awful but then saying that
> >so is the X32 longest "limted stop "service ever
>
> I suppose but once it has worked its way to the A 580 it does a good
> fast sprint into Manchester, would'nt the X43 I think it is Manchester
> Burnley be longer than the X 32 though ?. I have traveled on quite a
> few " First's"buses over the last couple of months but have yet to
> find one with comfortable seats  been like sitting on planks of wood,
> the best for seating I have found up to now are our local companies
> buses" J Fishwicks&Sons" and "Transdev" buses that work the east
> Lancashire routes and west Yorkshire and also Blackburn city services.
> Even our local Stagecoach buses are dead uncomfortable to ride any
> distance in.

It would be if the 32 was classed by First as an express bus strange
really when they have the X34 in the same area and the Stagecoach i
think there Enviros are awful to sit on

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:44:03 -0700 (PDT), Connaire
 wrote:


>It would be if the 32 was classed by First as an express bus strange
>really when they have the X34 in the same area and the Stagecoach i
>think there Enviros are awful to sit on
Ever since STG started running their Enviros in the Preston area I
have been promising myself a trip on one they only seem to employ them
on two of their services the 2 which is the Longridge Southport and
the X 2 Preston-Liverpool.
I do think the Enviros are a very pleasant looking bus but from what
you are saying they are another good design spoiled by the poor
seating in fact just has their newish single deck buses are .Problem
in many cases is that some people are never satisfied Preston Bus have
just bought some new Optars especially for the two park&Ride services
which they operate . 
These vehicles in my opinion are again very nice looking and they do
have good seating going on what I have read but there was one pillock
complaining bitterly in the local paper about these vehicles being
fitted with leather seats, he was of course one these silly none meat
eaters .