Is being taken over by stagecoach a good or bad thing?

elcid  wrote:

> Is being taken over by stagecoach a good or bad thing? 

Depends on the oncoming traffic, I expect.

-- 
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www.davidhorne.net 
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the 
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about. 
Otherwise they should just shut up about it."  -Richard Dawkins

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:04:25 +0100, "elcid"
 wrote:

>Is being taken over by stagecoach a good or bad thing? 
>
I don't think stagecoach and their staff are anywhere near as good
here in the Northwest as a company I drove over 20 years for ..
Ribble Motors .
But I would like to know how Stagecoach got to be so big ! , the first
I heard of them they where a small company operating  two or three
deckers between Scotland and London and what seemed to be overnight
they had bought up many of the big names in bus passenger transport
in the UK such as Southdown, Ribble, Standerwick, and no doubt many in
the Midlands North East and Scotland.
On a different note I was told the biggest load of twaddle I have ever
heard yesterday regarding bus operation I called one of the last
remaining small bus companies regarding something or other I forget
what now . I happened to mention in passing that I had witnessed on
two separate days a bus departing a local bus station one minute early
should have departed at 14:30 actually backed off at 14:29 on both
days by the station clock , incidentally the station clock wasn't
wrong my watch said 14:29 also . The guy at the company office said I
don't know how this could have happened our " Ticket Machines" are set
by the atomic clock !! so what !  the damed ticket machine would not
stop the driver from pressing the engine start button closing the
doors and backing off now would it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
.

On 30 Apr, 17:04, "elcid"  wrote:
> Is being taken over by stagecoach a good or bad thing?

I presume you mean Rapsons!

see this link, it is not definate, but talks are going on

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/7374867.stm

Tony

elcid wrote:
> Is being taken over by stagecoach a good or bad thing? 
> 
> 

On balance, a good thing all round.

Brian.

On Thu, 01 May 2008 07:37:19 GMT, Brian Robertson
<brianro@[nospam].com> wrote:

>elcid wrote:
>> Is being taken over by stagecoach a good or bad thing? 
>> 
>> 
>
>On balance, a good thing all round.
>
>Brian.
Ah a stagecoach lover are you Brian ? visit my part of the UK there
are not many people around here that would agree with you having been
used to being treated has a customer by the staff of previous
companies that dammed stagecoach took over and not has a necessary
nuisances has CUSTOMERS are now treated by a large proportion of
stagecoach staff  .
I bet stagecoach and its staff would change their attitudes if
councils withdrew their financial support for the journeys that
stagecoach operate.

"elcid"  wrote in message 
news:QaudnXi4DscWBYXVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
> Is being taken over by stagecoach a good or bad thing?
In my opinion it can only be bad.
A company that holds the record for OFT investigations, is a known asset 
stripper, and who cuts services and conditions to the bare minimum. An 
aggressive and hostile company who are only interested in the £.
They are in the process of asset stripping Stagecoach Yorkshire, closing 
depots and selling operations.

The following is a quote from Mark Hendrick (pps to Jack Straw Lord 
chancellor Ministry of Justice.


"The situation intensified last summer when it emerged that Stagecoach 
wanted to buy Preston Bus. Selling to Stagecoach would result in serious job 
losses and cuts in service, so Preston Bus resoundingly said no to the 
proposal. During discussions with Stagecoach, Peter Bell, the managing 
director of Preston Bus, was left in no doubt that, if he did not agree to 
the sale, Stagecoach would secure the operations by hostile competitive 
means.
The regional director of Stagecoach, Tom Wileman, told Preston Bus that, if 
it did not sell, Stagecoach would take its business anyway. That resulted in 
the current fiasco in Preston in which Stagecoach is attempting to run 
Preston Bus off the road. Since their meeting, Stagecoach has waged war on 
Preston Bus-something that has made passenger services unreliable, disrupted 
and downright dangerous.

Stagecoach's aim is to carry as many customers as possible at the expense of 
Preston Bus, and it has dispatched an additional 40 buses to run in the 
Preston area. The company's tactics mean that it rarely keeps to registered 
timetables. The tactics have included keeping buses at stops until they fill 
with passengers; it is not unusual to have gaps of 20 minutes between 
services that should run every seven or eight minutes. The company has also 
taken an ad hoc approach to dispatching buses, so when a bus arrives at a 
stop without customers on board or without customers waiting, it will be 
sent back to the terminus to be dispatched at a busier time.

Controllers monitor the departure of Preston Bus vehicles, so that they can 
put a Stagecoach bus in front at key departure stops. My constituents have 
reported that some Stagecoach staff have driven dangerously to get in front 
of a Preston Bus vehicle. Those reports include one of a driver making a 
three-point turn on a busy main road and of one overtaking on the wrong side 
of the road. Some reports say that Stagecoach controllers have virtually 
forced passengers to board their buses rather than wait for a Preston Bus. I 
witnessed a controller taking a woman with a child by the elbow to get her 
to board a Stagecoach bus.

Stagecoach has also deliberately given false information to customers with 
the aim of undermining Preston Bus, including suggesting that Preston Bus 
was about to go bust, that its prices would be going up and that services 
were about to be cancelled. If manhandling and misleading customers were not 
enough, two Stagecoach drivers were convicted of throwing eggs at moving 
Preston Bus buses. "



Now tell me that they are a good thing!

This is only one case, there are many many more!

Duncan

D.R. wrote:
> "elcid"  wrote in message 
> news:QaudnXi4DscWBYXVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
>> Is being taken over by stagecoach a good or bad thing?
> In my opinion it can only be bad.
> A company that holds the record for OFT investigations, is a known asset 
> stripper, and who cuts services and conditions to the bare minimum. An 
> aggressive and hostile company who are only interested in the £.
> They are in the process of asset stripping Stagecoach Yorkshire, closing 
> depots and selling operations.
> 
> The following is a quote from Mark Hendrick (pps to Jack Straw Lord 
> chancellor Ministry of Justice.
> 
> 
> "The situation intensified last summer when it emerged that Stagecoach 
> wanted to buy Preston Bus. Selling to Stagecoach would result in serious job 
> losses and cuts in service, so Preston Bus resoundingly said no to the 
> proposal. During discussions with Stagecoach, Peter Bell, the managing 
> director of Preston Bus, was left in no doubt that, if he did not agree to 
> the sale, Stagecoach would secure the operations by hostile competitive 
> means.
> The regional director of Stagecoach, Tom Wileman, told Preston Bus that, if 
> it did not sell, Stagecoach would take its business anyway. That resulted in 
> the current fiasco in Preston in which Stagecoach is attempting to run 
> Preston Bus off the road. Since their meeting, Stagecoach has waged war on 
> Preston Bus-something that has made passenger services unreliable, disrupted 
> and downright dangerous.
> 
> Stagecoach's aim is to carry as many customers as possible at the expense of 
> Preston Bus, and it has dispatched an additional 40 buses to run in the 
> Preston area. The company's tactics mean that it rarely keeps to registered 
> timetables. The tactics have included keeping buses at stops until they fill 
> with passengers; it is not unusual to have gaps of 20 minutes between 
> services that should run every seven or eight minutes. The company has also 
> taken an ad hoc approach to dispatching buses, so when a bus arrives at a 
> stop without customers on board or without customers waiting, it will be 
> sent back to the terminus to be dispatched at a busier time.
> 
> Controllers monitor the departure of Preston Bus vehicles, so that they can 
> put a Stagecoach bus in front at key departure stops. My constituents have 
> reported that some Stagecoach staff have driven dangerously to get in front 
> of a Preston Bus vehicle. Those reports include one of a driver making a 
> three-point turn on a busy main road and of one overtaking on the wrong side 
> of the road. Some reports say that Stagecoach controllers have virtually 
> forced passengers to board their buses rather than wait for a Preston Bus. I 
> witnessed a controller taking a woman with a child by the elbow to get her 
> to board a Stagecoach bus.
> 
> Stagecoach has also deliberately given false information to customers with 
> the aim of undermining Preston Bus, including suggesting that Preston Bus 
> was about to go bust, that its prices would be going up and that services 
> were about to be cancelled. If manhandling and misleading customers were not 
> enough, two Stagecoach drivers were convicted of throwing eggs at moving 
> Preston Bus buses. "
> 
> 
> 
> Now tell me that they are a good thing!
> 
> This is only one case, there are many many more!
> 
> Duncan
> 
> 

We are, of course, all entitled to our opinions.

Brian.

On Fri, 02 May 2008 19:53:10 GMT, Brian Robertson
<brianro@[nospam].com> wrote:


>We are, of course, all entitled to our opinions.

It may not be a good thing Brian but like you say we are 
 all entitled to our opinions and anything that rids us of Preston Bus
around these parts must be a good thing . Once shut of them all we
would need in Preston city would be shut of the monstrosity of a bus
station where many people have been killed by jumping of its top story
and also by entering and departing buses .And a brand new one the
likes of what Chorley,Bolton,Wigan, Lancaster and Burnley and many
more towns and cites in the NW have got in its place .