NXWM was officailly launched today in Birmingham. The first bus to get
the full livery was 4775 at Walsall, although several have been
running around part done for a few weeks.

Here is 4775 in its full glory!

http://west-midlands-buses.fpic.co.uk/p48202832.html

the new branding for the coaches was also launched at the same event.

Dave Francis has some photos of the venet here

http://nationalexpresscoaches.fotopic.net/c1453254.html

Tony

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:31:30 -0800 (PST), "TFHunter@aol.com"
 wrote:

>NXWM was officailly launched today in Birmingham. The first bus to get
>the full livery was 4775 at Walsall, although several have been
>running around part done for a few weeks.
>
>Here is 4775 in its full glory!
>
>http://west-midlands-buses.fpic.co.uk/p48202832.html
>
>the new branding for the coaches was also launched at the same event.
>
>Dave Francis has some photos of the venet here
>
>http://nationalexpresscoaches.fotopic.net/c1453254.html
>
>Tony
Stagecoach looks better personally I don't like all the red on the
front end over all rather drab looking but beauty lies in the eye of
the beholder what pleases one doesn't please another regarding color
schemes .

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: : Stagecoach looks better personally I don't like all the
: : red on the front end over all rather drab looking but
: : beauty lies in the eye of the beholder what pleases one
: : doesn't please another regarding color schemes .

Buses should be red all over. But then I was brought up in London so I'm 
biased ;-)


Ivor

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:31:30 -0800 (PST), "TFHunter@aol.com"
 wrote:

>NXWM was officailly launched today in Birmingham. The first bus to get
>the full livery was 4775 at Walsall, although several have been
>running around part done for a few weeks.

Doesn't that devalue the brand somewhat when they aren't "express" at
all?

Neil

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In message , Ivor Jones 
<ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> writes
>
>
> wrote in message
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>
>: : Stagecoach looks better personally I don't like all the
>: : red on the front end over all rather drab looking but
>: : beauty lies in the eye of the beholder what pleases one
>: : doesn't please another regarding color schemes .
>
>Buses should be red all over.
Indeed.

> But then I was brought up in London so I'm biased ;-)
As in "brought up in London admiring those lovely provincial 'Midland 
Red' buses" I assume, Ivor?!   ;-)

On a serious note, I think the absence of blue on the news NXWM design 
makes them look a bit insipid.
-- 
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

On 5 Feb, 06:31, wensleyd...@pacersplace.org.uk (Neil Williams) wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:31:30 -0800 (PST), "TFHun...@aol.com"
>
>  wrote:
> >NXWM was officailly launched today in Birmingham. The first bus to get
> >the full livery was 4775 at Walsall, although several have been
> >running around part done for a few weeks.
>
> Doesn't that devalue the brand somewhat when they aren't "express" at
> all?
>
> Neil
>
> --
> Neil Williams
> Put my first name before the at to reply.

And First and always there first, and Stagecoach don't have 2 horses
on the front!

On a completely seperate note does anyone know what Stagecoach in
Warwickshire current driver's pay rates are

Tony

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> On 5 Feb, 06:31, wensleyd...@pacersplace.org.uk (Neil Williams) wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:31:30 -0800 (PST), "TFHun...@aol.com"
>>
>>  wrote:
>> >NXWM was officailly launched today in Birmingham. The first bus to get
>> >the full livery was 4775 at Walsall, although several have been
>> >running around part done for a few weeks.
>>
>> Doesn't that devalue the brand somewhat when they aren't "express" at
>> all?
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> --
>> Neil Williams
>> Put my first name before the at to reply.
>
> And First and always there first, and Stagecoach don't have 2 horses
> on the front!
>
Where does that leave GoAhead?


> On a completely seperate note does anyone know what Stagecoach in
> Warwickshire current driver's pay rates are

At a guess.....low.
>
> Tony

"Ian Jelf"  wrote in message
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: : In message , Ivor
: : Jones <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> writes

: : : Buses should be red all over.

: : Indeed.
: :
: : : But then I was brought up in London so I'm biased ;-)

: : As in "brought up in London admiring those lovely
: : provincial 'Midland Red' buses" I assume, Ivor?!   ;-)

No, admiring those lovely RT's and RTW's..! Plus the occasional RF :-)

: : On a serious note, I think the absence of blue on the
: : news NXWM design makes them look a bit insipid.

Indeed.

Ivor

PS leave a space after what you're replying to Ian, it makes it so much 
easier to read..!
PPS See you in the pub tonight..?

> Where does that leave GoAhead?

Selling up in the West Midlands if the rumours are true, with Arriva
being name shouted the loudest

Tony
>
> > On a completely seperate note does anyone know what Stagecoach in
> > Warwickshire current driver's pay rates are
>
> At a guess.....low.
>
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:53:04 -0800 (PST), "TFHunter@aol.com"
 wrote:

>> Where does that leave GoAhead?
>
>Selling up in the West Midlands if the rumours are true, with Arriva
>being name shouted the loudest

Very interesting but not hugely surprising given the cutbacks. Arriva in
the Midlands seem to be able to get money for new vehicle, route
investment and takeovers. I can see how some of the Diamond network
might be attractive to them but overall this simply shows how massively
dominant TWM - oops sorry NXWM - are.
-- 
Paul C

In message 
, 
"TFHunter@aol.com"  writes
>> Where does that leave GoAhead?
>
>Selling up in the West Midlands if the rumours are true, with Arriva
>being name shouted the loudest
Interesting.   I miss Diamond on one of "my" routes (the 120) as their 
vehicles were well turned out and the loss of them halved the daytime 
frequent.   (TWM have put it up a bit since but it's still only 2/3 of 
what it was.)

>> > On a completely seperate note does anyone know what Stagecoach in
>> > Warwickshire current driver's pay rates are
>>
>> At a guess.....low.
I would have thought the same.   Certainly their new broom came as a bit 
of a shock to the former Guide Friday then City Sightseeing staff when 
Stagecoach acquired the Stratford Tour operation.   Not particularly for 
money I understand but for conditions of employment.
-- 
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:44:17 +0000, Ian Jelf
 wrote:

>Interesting.   I miss Diamond on one of "my" routes (the 120) as their 
>vehicles were well turned out and the loss of them halved the daytime 
>frequent.   (TWM have put it up a bit since but it's still only 2/3 of 
>what it was.)

While I've never ridden one of their buses, they do look well
turned-out and professional for an independent.

Neil

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On 5 Feb, 21:24, wensleyd...@pacersplace.org.uk (Neil Williams) wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:44:17 퍍, Ian Jelf
>
>  wrote:
> >Interesting.   I miss Diamond on one of "my" routes (the 120) as their
> >vehicles were well turned out and the loss of them halved the daytime
> >frequent.   (TWM have put it up a bit since but it's still only 2/3 of
> >what it was.)
>
> While I've never ridden one of their buses, they do look well
> turned-out and professional for an independent.
>
> Neil
>
> --
> Neil Williams
> Put my first name before the at to reply.

They are not an independant, they are part of Go-Ahead group, a large
PLC

Tony

In message 
, 
"TFHunter@aol.com"  writes
>On 5 Feb, 21:24, wensleyd...@pacersplace.org.uk (Neil Williams) wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:44:17 +0000, Ian Jelf
>>
>>  wrote:
>> >Interesting.   I miss Diamond on one of "my" routes (the 120) as their
>> >vehicles were well turned out and the loss of them halved the daytime
>> >frequent.   (TWM have put it up a bit since but it's still only 2/3 of
>> >what it was.)
>>
>> While I've never ridden one of their buses, they do look well
>> turned-out and professional for an independent.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> --
>> Neil Williams
>> Put my first name before the at to reply.
>
>They are not an independant, they are part of Go-Ahead group, a large
>PLC

<Gap inserted to placate Ivor>

Indeed.   However, when they *were* an independent they had at least as 
smart an image as they did afterwards, possibly more so.   Their initial 
fleet of Leyland Nationals were always a cut above similar vehicles run 
by similar small operators at the time and in particular their smart 
their staff uniforms looked very much like something "from the old 
days".
-- 
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk