http://www.lep.co.uk/news/War-veteran-94-hurt-in.3373177.jp

A battle of Britain veteran was left bloodied and bruised when he was
manhandled off a bus by the driver, who has now quit.
Thomas Bleasdale, 94, fell flat on his face on the pavement after being
marched off the Number 19 Preston Bus, just 100 yards from his Deepdale
home.

Today, bus chiefs said the driver – who is believed to be in his 20s –
has now left the company.

The former RAF engineer said he was told he had to get off the bus on
Deepdale Road because the bus pass he wanted to use – which offers
elderly people discounted bus travel in Lancashire after 9.30am – was
not valid for another 40 minutes.

Mr Bleasdale, who also suffered a badly-bruised hand and sore knees in
the fracas, said: "I normally get on the bus into town about 10am and it
has never been a problem, but I was going to catch another bus which was
leaving the station at 9.25am, so I wanted to get there early.

"It does not say anything on the card about when you can travel and I
did not hear the driver say anything when I got on.

"Next thing he was lifting me out of my seat and getting me off the bus.

"I remember I went flat out on the pavement, someone picked me up and
sat me down, but I cannot remember anything after that.

"What these young people do not realise is that if it was not for older
people like me they would not be here today."

The pavement at the bus stop, outside Deepdale Infants School on
Deepdale Road, was still covered in the pensioner's blood a day after
the incident at 8.50am on Wednesday.

A Preston Bus spokesman confirmed that the driver had left the company
following the incident and said an investigation had shown there had
been an argument between Mr Bleasdale and the driver before he was
ejected.

"Steve Greene" <stephen_greene.@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote

>
> A battle of Britain veteran was left bloodied and bruised when he was
> manhandled off a bus by the driver, who has now quit.
> Thomas Bleasdale, 94, fell flat on his face on the pavement after being
> marched off the Number 19 Preston Bus, just 100 yards from his Deepdale
> home.
>
> Today, bus chiefs said the driver - who is believed to be in his 20s -
> has now left the company.



Public transport terrorist!


-- 

Regards, Vince.

"It was a slight exaggeration on my part" -Doug Bollen
(Having described a person convicted of petrol-bombing, assault,  grave 
robbing and firearm offences as "having been jailed for sending a letter")

On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:48:34 +0100
"Knight Of The Road"  wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Steve Greene" <stephen_greene.@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote
> 
> >
> > A battle of Britain veteran was left bloodied and bruised when he
> > was manhandled off a bus by the driver, who has now quit.
> > Thomas Bleasdale, 94, fell flat on his face on the pavement after
> > being marched off the Number 19 Preston Bus, just 100 yards from
> > his Deepdale home.
> >
> > Today, bus chiefs said the driver - who is believed to be in his
> > 20s - has now left the company.
> 
> 
> 
> Public transport terrorist!

Lol! Fivers all round methinks.

On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:28:31 +0100, "Dr Zoidberg"
<AlexNOOOO!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote:

>"Steve Greene" <stephen_greene.@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message 
>news:ikb2h3ts1mlljc8n2gjf8e4rqsobfmm080@4ax.com...
>> http://www.lep.co.uk/news/War-veteran-94-hurt-in.3373177.jp
>>
>> A battle of Britain veteran was left bloodied and bruised when he was
>> manhandled off a bus by the driver, who has now quit.
>> Thomas Bleasdale, 94, fell flat on his face on the pavement after being
>> marched off the Number 19 Preston Bus, just 100 yards from his Deepdale
>> home.
>>
>
>Shouldn't this be titled "reason 1 to despise bus drivers"?
>
>After all , if it's trendy and fun to despise all police based on the 
>actions of a single officer , why should other professions be exempt from 
>this treatment?

That only applies if other professions have a bunch of Kevs backing
them up. Since the driver has been removed from his driving job there
is no need for a thread. Now if he had been promoted and given a pay
rise we might have had a reason.

On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:46:16 +0100, Steve Greene
<stephen_greene.@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:


>"What these young people do not realise is that if it was not for older
>people like me they would not be here today."

Exactly 90% of em are nothing but untrained unruly animals in the city
of Preston mind you the city itself is a shit hole anyway,  the 90%
comes down to 50% where I live five miles away from UNproud Preston .

>A Preston Bus spokesman confirmed that the driver had left the company
>following the incident and said an investigation had shown there had
>been an argument between Mr Bleasdale and the driver before he was
>ejected.
I rather think he was lying about the driver leaving more than likely
he was sacked and good riddance.

In uk.legal on Sat, 13 Oct 2007, mymail@hotmail.co.uk wrote :
>
>>A Preston Bus spokesman confirmed that the driver had left the company
>>following the incident and said an investigation had shown there had
>>been an argument between Mr Bleasdale and the driver before he was
>>ejected.

>I rather think he was lying about the driver leaving more than likely
>he was sacked and good riddance.

In an ideal world, the other passengers should have beaten the crap out 
of the driver!
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

"Paul Hyett" <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:A3qMWNTr1bEHFwUV@blueyonder.co.uk...
> In uk.legal on Sat, 13 Oct 2007, mymail@hotmail.co.uk wrote :
>>
>>>A Preston Bus spokesman confirmed that the driver had left the company
>>>following the incident and said an investigation had shown there had
>>>been an argument between Mr Bleasdale and the driver before he was
>>>ejected.
>
>>I rather think he was lying about the driver leaving more than likely
>>he was sacked and good riddance.
>
> In an ideal world, the other passengers should have beaten the crap out of 
> the driver!
> -- 
> Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

Yes and could you see the press it would get?

"Passengers attack driver who was enforcing terms of a Buss Pass"

Mike


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>>
>> In an ideal world, the other passengers should have beaten the crap out 
>> of the driver!
>> -- 
>> Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
>
> Yes and could you see the press it would get?
>
> "Passengers attack driver who was enforcing terms of a Buss Pass"
>


Thinking on about that, with the situation as it is now, that Bus Driver 
would/could then take a sickie for life and sue the Bus Company for him 
being in an unprotected situation and now not able to face the public again, 
lose this confidence and is now a shattered man thereby being unemployable 
as a driver and get £250,000.00 compensation!!!

Mike

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On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 07:12:02 GMT, Paul Hyett <pah@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>In uk.legal on Sat, 13 Oct 2007, mymail@hotmail.co.uk wrote :
>>
>>>A Preston Bus spokesman confirmed that the driver had left the company
>>>following the incident and said an investigation had shown there had
>>>been an argument between Mr Bleasdale and the driver before he was
>>>ejected.
>
>>I rather think he was lying about the driver leaving more than likely
>>he was sacked and good riddance.
>
>In an ideal world, the other passengers should have beaten the crap out 
>of the driver!

Pre 1960 perhaps it may have happened but not anymore people do not
give two monkeys about each other around these parts anymore and who
can blame them Preston city council has filled the city so full of
bloody students there are hardly any true Prestoners left these days .

In article , pah@invalid.invalid 
says...
> In uk.legal on Sat, 13 Oct 2007, mymail@hotmail.co.uk wrote :
> >
> >>A Preston Bus spokesman confirmed that the driver had left the company
> >>following the incident and said an investigation had shown there had
> >>been an argument between Mr Bleasdale and the driver before he was
> >>ejected.
> 
> >I rather think he was lying about the driver leaving more than likely
> >he was sacked and good riddance.
> 
> In an ideal world, the other passengers should have beaten the crap out 
> of the driver!
> 

There are contradictory stories in the report. The bus company claims 
there was an argument between passenger and driver. The passenger claims 
he was simply ejected from the bus. So we know that somebody is lying. 
However we have absolutely no way of knowing who without some further 
evidence. I would suggest that the simple fact that there doesn't appear 
to be any form of criminal proceedings as a result implies that the 
police don't see it as assault. As standard procedure in such a case 
would be to collect witness statements my guess would be that the police 
can be taken as a fairly reliable casting vote. So my assumption is that 
it's more likely that the (no doubt normally perfectly respectable) Mr 
Bleasdale is either telling a few porkies to the journalist or is 
somewhat confused.

I realise that some would prefer to assume a conspiracy in which every 
single organisation involved is working together to screw up the lives of 
ordinary people, whilst local journalists and old men never ever bend the 
truth even slightly. However some people are so dumb it amazes me they 
manage to do anything as complicated as breathing.

Like most of Mr Greene's posts it almost certainly complete garbage that 
tells us only one thing, some journalists are complete scum who will cook 
up any old inflammatory crap when they can't find any real news.

-- 
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"

On Oct 13, 12:48 pm, "Knight Of The Road" 
wrote:
> "Steve Greene" <stephen_gree...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote
>
>
>
> > A battle of Britain veteran was left bloodied and bruised when he was
> > manhandled off a bus by the driver, who has now quit.
> > Thomas Bleasdale, 94, fell flat on his face on the pavement after being
> > marched off the Number 19 Preston Bus, just 100 yards from his Deepdale
> > home.
>
> > Today, bus chiefs said the driver - who is believed to be in his 20s -
> > has now left the company.
>
> Public transport terrorist!
>
> --
>
> Regards, Vince.
>
> "It was a slight exaggeration on my part" -Doug Bollen
> (Having described a person convicted of petrol-bombing, assault,  grave
> robbing and firearm offences as "having been jailed for sending a letter")

IMO Doug Bollen has long been an apologist for
violence.  Here are a few of his earlier messages
relating to Sinn Fein/IRA.  Notice how his knee-jerk
response is pure propanda in favour of Sinn Fein/IRA.

="Title: Major blows peace talks
= Author: Doug p...@noid.demon.co.uk
= Date:1996/02/09
= Forums:soc.culture.british
= Message-ID: 
= distribution: world
= organization: The Small Minority
= x-nntp-posting-host: noid.demon.co.uk
=
= Well it was inevitable wasn't it. After the IRA peace
= intitiative, Major just kep messing everybody about
= with face-saving pre-conditions, first with his demands
= for IRA arms surrender then demands for elections in
= jerrymandered Ulster until, predictably, we have
= another bomb in London
= with probably more to come."

http://tinyurl.com/34hsm7


Same for the Omagh bomb...


=From: stickyourwretchedjunkm...@thislocation.lemon.co.jupiter
(DougX)
=Subject: Omagh.
=Date: 1998/08/16
=Message-ID: #1/1
=Distribution: world
=X-NNTP-Posting-Host: noid.demon.co.uk:158.152.50.53
=X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 903295150 nnrp-04:29528 NO-IDENT
=noid.demon.co.uk:158.152.50.53
=Organization: Rampaging Iconoclasts Unleashed.
=Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,uk.current-events.n-
ireland,soc.culture.irish
=X-Complaints-To: ab...@demon.net
=
=
=This endless horror is a directly attributable to the
=politicians who created partition regardless of the
=will of the people and who continue to
=perpetuate partition regardless of the
=will of the people

http://tinyurl.com/ytpxrv


Later on Doug got tired of writing his own diatribes
and post a statement from P O'Neill, the fictitious
spokesman for the PIRA, verbatim:

http://tinyurl.com/2w37v6

=From: p...@noid.demon.co.uk (Doug)
=Subject: Re: IRA - when will you twits shake off those blinkers?
=Date: 1996/10/06
=Message-ID: #1/1
=
=And the IRA said, in a statement issued on
=the same day as the bombing of
=Canary Wharf, quote:
=
="End of IRA Ceasefire Statement - 9th February 1996
(snip)
=
=The blame for the failure thus far of the Irish peace
=process lies squarely with John Major and his government.
=
=P O'Neill"
=
=----------------------------------------------------------
=
=Doug.
=--
=London, England, UK, EU.

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:10:49 +0100, Escargot Cult
 wrote:


> Mr 
>Bleasdale is either telling a few porkies to the journalist or is 
>somewhat confused.

Having seen many untruths told by reporters of the Lancashire Evening
post you can bet your life the reporter has inflated this incident
beyond all recognition.

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:19:33 GMT, mymail@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

>Pre 1960 perhaps it may have happened but not anymore people do not
>give two monkeys about each other around these parts anymore and who
>can blame them Preston city council has filled the city so full of
>bloody students there are hardly any true Prestoners left these days .

The best part of living in Preston is moving somewhere else. Preston
makes just about anywhere look like paradise.

Although Preston was a good place to live until the mid 1970's. In the
late 1960's it was a brilliant place to live. But nearly everywhere
was back then.

Svenne

mymail@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:10:49 +0100, Escargot Cult
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Mr 
>> Bleasdale is either telling a few porkies to the journalist or is 
>> somewhat confused.
> 
> Having seen many untruths told by reporters of the Lancashire Evening
> post you can bet your life the reporter has inflated this incident
> beyond all recognition. 

Yes, the guy was only 92!

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:18:23 GMT, Svenne  wrote:


>The best part of living in Preston is moving somewhere else. Preston
>makes just about anywhere look like paradise.

It is now a Student city and is getting more and more geared up to
providing all mod cons for them and its sod off the ordinary people of
Preston thank the lord I do not live in that city .
>Although Preston was a good place to live until the mid 1970's. In the
>late 1960's it was a brilliant place to live. But nearly everywhere
>was back then.
I can go back to the forties long before the old town hall was
destroyed by fire and in those days it was a really nice town .
The city council had a really brilliant idea the other week they
decided to have a no car day on a Saturday, my main gripe about this
was the idiot councilors never thought about the disabled getting
access to the market area when tghey closed of all the roads in the
city center .

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:18:09 GMT, mymail@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

>On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:18:23 GMT, Svenne  wrote:
>
>
>>The best part of living in Preston is moving somewhere else. Preston
>>makes just about anywhere look like paradise.
>
>It is now a Student city and is getting more and more geared up to
>providing all mod cons for them and its sod off the ordinary people of
>Preston thank the lord I do not live in that city .
>>Although Preston was a good place to live until the mid 1970's. In the
>>late 1960's it was a brilliant place to live. But nearly everywhere
>>was back then.
>I can go back to the forties long before the old town hall was
>destroyed by fire and in those days it was a really nice town .
>The city council had a really brilliant idea the other week they
>decided to have a no car day on a Saturday, my main gripe about this
>was the idiot councilors never thought about the disabled getting
>access to the market area when tghey closed of all the roads in the
>city center .

You must be getting on a bit. The old town hall was already burned
down in my earliest memories. I moved away from Preston in the early
seventies, just around the time all the new development was underway.
They tore down the old bus station and built the new and ripped out a
lot of the heart of the town and built roads and ringways. Last time I
visited my old home town was in 1991 and I hardly recognised it. I did
like the renovation of the Miller Arcade and they still hadn't pulled
down my old local, the Black Horse on the corner of Friargate-Orchard
Street. 

I suppose I would recognise Preston even less now.

But that, I suppose, gets to be true of everywhere eventually.

Svenne

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 07:21:38 GMT, Svenne  wrote:


>You must be getting on a bit. The old town hall was already burned
>down in my earliest memories.

Guessing now but I would say it burned down around 1948 could be a
year or so either way I was only very young at the time but I remember
we could see the flames from our front door in Bamber Bridge .
> I moved away from Preston in the early
>seventies, just around the time all the new development was underway.
>They tore down the old bus station and built the new and ripped out a
>lot of the heart of the town and built roads and ringways.
I always thought a ring road was supposed to go ROUND a town or city
Preston's ring road runs right through the center of it and you ain'
seen nothing yet that ghastly old/new bus station is coming down along
with all the other businesses around that area to make way for another
stupid shopping complex or something along those lines . 
> Last time I
>visited my old home town was in 1991 and I hardly recognised it.
You certainly wouldn't  recognize it now :)) .
>I did like the renovation of the Miller Arcade
About the only thing that has been done really well I have to agree.
> and they still hadn't pulled
>down my old local, the Black Horse on the corner of Friargate-Orchard
>Street. 
Still there I wonder if it is a listed building or something .

>But that, I suppose, gets to be true of everywhere eventually.

Some changes to towns and cities in the UK have been done for the
better all Preston council has done is make the damn place worse a lot
of it has come about due to the council getting big headed due to
getting city status .
Must have cost the tax payers of Preston a small fortune repainting
all the vehicles with Preston city council   .


Just done a bit of research "1947 Old Town Hall burnt down."I thought
I was about five years old at the time.

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:29:59 GMT, mymail@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

>Just done a bit of research "1947 Old Town Hall burnt down."I thought
>I was about five years old at the time.

I was one year old then. 

So, they're pulling down what I always regarded as the new bus station
and starting even more 'development'. I hope they leave the Miller
Arcade, the Black Horse and Winkley Square alone. I believe Horrockses
Mill on New Hall Lane is being turned into luxury apartments, so that
fine piece of Victorian architecture will be safe.

I like the Preston I remember best, it was a nice, friendly and
pleasant northern town. I suppose I will pay the City of Preston a
visit one day, but I don't have many expectations of recognising it or
liking it very much. Although it won't be so bad if I can still have a
pint in the Black Horse.

Svenne

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:38:43 GMT, Svenne  wrote:


>I was one year old then. 

So you aren't all that much behind me then :))))))) .
>So, they're pulling down what I always regarded as the new bus station
>and starting even more 'development'. 
Had they spent a little more cash on the bus station instead of
skimping on what I and a lot of people thought essential ie made the
bay doors so they where operated remotely thus forcing  passengers to
enter and leave the station via the tunnels instead of allowing them
to wander across the bus aprons to enter and leave it may have been
better . But they didn't and as a consequence quite a number of people
have been killed with busses entering and leaving the station,
nowadays the place is just a stinking hole due to people sorry ANIMALS
urinating on stairways and in the lifts up to the car park etc.


>I hope they leave the Miller
>Arcade, the Black Horse and Winkley Square alone.

I think the black horse will have changed on the inside so will have
its customers probably full of long haired student types now but still
looks the same from the outside and Robinson's Brewery still own the
place .

> I believe Horrockses
>Mill on New Hall Lane is being turned into luxury apartments, so that
>fine piece of Victorian architecture will be safe.
Yep but Preston Farmers across the road has been raised to the ground
and a brand new Aldi store is in its place and it is very dark around
New Hall and Ribbleton lanes these days ! .
>
>I like the Preston I remember best, it was a nice, friendly and
>pleasant northern town. 

Those where the days when you could go for a walk round Preston on a
Friday and Saturday nights without fear of being robbed or worse I do
not go anywhere near the place of a night time now . I have got to be
forced to go there in the daytime can't stand the sight of the place
now usually go into Leyland these days .