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date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:42:33 +0100,    group: uk.transport.buses        back       
Ticket Machine - help requried   
Can anyone help?

I am trying to find out if any other operators except for MK Metro are or 
have used Wayfarer 3 ticket machines with contact smartcard readers.

Does anyone know of anyone else that went for this technology?  It was built 
in the mid-late 90's.

Thanks
date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:42:33 +0100   author:   Matt Clayson

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
Matt Clayson wrote:
> Can anyone help?
> 
> I am trying to find out if any other operators except for MK Metro are or 
> have used Wayfarer 3 ticket machines with contact smartcard readers.
> 
> Does anyone know of anyone else that went for this technology?  It was built 
> in the mid-late 90's.
> 
> Thanks 


The company's technological leadership means that Wayfarer currently 
holds in excess of 80% of the UK bus operator market.
  Some 7,500 million people have undertaken a journey somewhere in the 
world and been issued with a ticket from a Wayfarer Electronic Ticket 
Machine.

  http://www.wayfarer.co.uk/index.htm

a Google  for Wayfarer3 will give you case studies in Merseyside and Lothian

Hope this helps
Kevin
date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:32:20 GMT   author:   Kevin

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
"Matt Clayson"  wrote in message
news:132bmd71011iecd@corp.supernews.com...
> Can anyone help?
>
> I am trying to find out if any other operators except for MK Metro are or
> have used Wayfarer 3 ticket machines with contact smartcard readers.
>
> Does anyone know of anyone else that went for this technology?  It was
built
> in the mid-late 90's.
>
> Thanks
>
>

do you mean contactless smart card readers ?

We in blackpool use wayfarer ( 3 I think )

we scan oap passes using contactless rf technology
date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:36:23 GMT   author:   Dave

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:36:23 GMT, "Dave"  wrote:

>do you mean contactless smart card readers ?

No; MK Metro do use olde-worlde *contact* smartcard readers.  They are
a bloody stupid idea because reading a card is slower than issuing a
ticket for cash, and I'm amazed Arriva (who have taken over) have not
yet got rid of the cards in favour of laminated ticket passes you get
elsewhere.

Neil

-- 
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.
date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:09:57 GMT   author:   (Neil Williams)

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
> I am trying to find out if any other operators except for MK Metro are or 
> have used Wayfarer 3 ticket machines with contact smartcard readers.

> Does anyone know of anyone else that went for this technology?  It was built 
> in the mid-late 90's.

I'm not sure what makes a card "smart," but First in Bristol/Somerset & 
Avon use magnetic card readers for their carnet tickets (printing 
details about each use), for printing details on season tickets (they 
are issued, blank in shops, and then when used on a bus print the expiry 
date), and also for validating season tickets, although this isn't 
compulsory, though some do it anyway.
date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:53:17 GMT   author:   Mojo mojo29@*pleaseremove*googlemail.com

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
On Apr 18, 12:32�pm, Kevin  wrote:
> Matt Clayson wrote:
> > Can anyone help?
>
> > I am trying to find out if any other operators except for MK Metro are or
> > have used Wayfarer 3 ticket machines with contact smartcard readers.
>
> > Does anyone know of anyone else that went for this technology?  It was built
> > in the mid-late 90's.
>
> > Thanks
>
> The company's technological leadership means that Wayfarer currently
> holds in excess of 80% of the UK bus operator market.
>   Some 7,500 million people have undertaken a journey somewhere in the
> world and been issued with a ticket from a Wayfarer Electronic Ticket
> Machine.
>
>  http://www.wayfarer.co.uk/index.htm
>
> a Google  for Wayfarer3 will give you case studies in Merseyside and Lothian
>
> Hope this helps
> Kevin

The London Transport conductor training school, circa 1950's, claimed
the conductor could issue a punch ticket to the punter within two
seconds of them stating their destination and or fare.

At that time across all London Transport (Central, Country,Green Line,
Trams, Trolleybuses) some seven million punch tickets were issued
every day.

Some provided by Bell Punch, Uxbridge, many others from LT's own
printing plant in Jeffra Road, Brixton, but seven million a day
nonetheless.

That was then, of course.

Kind regards,
Alan M. Watkins
date: 18 Apr 2007 13:59:46 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:53:17 GMT, Mojo
<mojo29@*pleaseremove*googlemail.com> wrote:

>I'm not sure what makes a card "smart,"

The presence of a chip, such as that found on Chip and PIN credit
cards.

Neil

-- 
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.
date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:08:36 GMT   author:   (Neil Williams)

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

Re: Ticket Machine - help requried   
The only other UK user of Wayfarer 3's with contact (as opposed to
contactless or proximity) smartcards I am aware of was Pathfinder of
Newark.  They abandoned them some time ago (and I think use Almex A90
+ Smartfare card readers as they are now part of Nottingham City
Transport). There may have been short-term trials by other
operators.

MK Metro adopted Wayfarer contact smartcard equipment to replace an
earlier contact card system - the AES-Prodata Datafare 2000.  This was
the first non-trial use of smartcards in the UK. The scheme was
underwritten by Bucks CC, and the MK Development Corporation, and most
operators in the area had Prodata kit (Milton Keynes Citybus, Red
Rose, MK Interlink, Yellow Bus, Sapwells).

Other users mentioned in this discussion:
The Merseytravel experiment was with contactless cards as far as I
know.
Blackpool use standard Wayfarer TGX150's with contactless smartcard
readers as part of the NOWCard scheme
First Avon & Somerset use Wayfarer 3's with MCV (magnetic card
validators). This is obsolescent technology.


If you want further info or help, maybe contact me off-group?

DRH
date: 25 Apr 2007 00:09:37 -0700   author:   N90734

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