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date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:12:49 +0100,
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Who pays for Air Traffic Control?
I flew from BUD to MAN recently, on a plane with one of those useful TV
screen maps that show you very roughly how far you've gone and what
towns you might be flying over. I reckon we passed through the air space
of at least 6 different nations on the way. (I'm assuming Luxembourg
doesn't get too bothered about its air space - presumably it lets one of
its neighbours sort things out for it.)
This set me off wondering about the arrangements for air traffic control
where planes simply pass through without stopping. The Swiss and the
Austrians must get really fed up with handling everybody else's non-stop
flights. Do they raise charges for "transit" flights? Or is it all a
free service?
I've always assumed that ATC at origin and destination is paid for
through landing charges at the destination airports but perhaps I've got
that wrong too. Any information herzlich willkommen.
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Joyce Whitchurch, Stalybridge, UK
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Old enough to remember when MAN
was still Ringway and had Alcock
and Brown's biplane hanging up in
the departure hall
date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:12:49 +0100
author: Joyce Whitchurch
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Re: Who pays for Air Traffic Control?
"Joyce Whitchurch" wrote in message
news:NuOdnYAMwo-JWXTbnZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@bt.com...
>I flew from BUD to MAN recently, on a plane with one of those useful TV
>screen maps that show you very roughly how far you've gone and what towns
>you might be flying over. I reckon we passed through the air space of at
>least 6 different nations on the way. (I'm assuming Luxembourg doesn't get
>too bothered about its air space - presumably it lets one of its neighbours
>sort things out for it.)
>
> This set me off wondering about the arrangements for air traffic control
> where planes simply pass through without stopping. The Swiss and the
> Austrians must get really fed up with handling everybody else's non-stop
> flights. Do they raise charges for "transit" flights? Or is it all a free
> service?
>
> I've always assumed that ATC at origin and destination is paid for through
> landing charges at the destination airports but perhaps I've got that
> wrong too. Any information herzlich willkommen.
> --
> Joyce Whitchurch, Stalybridge, UK
> =================================
> Old enough to remember when MAN
> was still Ringway and had Alcock
> and Brown's biplane hanging up in
> the departure hall
Simplisticly? You do! You pay the airline and the airline pays the air
traffic control provider. In the UK that is NATS. They levy "en route
charges" to aircraft passing through UK airspace and you'd be amazed how
many of those there are! Think about all the transatlantic flights.
The "upper airspace" in large parts of northern mainland Europe are
controlled through the Eurocontrol centre at Maastricht but more local
services (the dividing line is somewhere between 20k and 30K feet) are
provided by each country.
date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:43:30 +0100
author: Graham Harrison
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Re: Who pays for Air Traffic Control?
"Joyce Whitchurch" wrote in message
news:NuOdnYAMwo-JWXTbnZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@bt.com...
>I flew from BUD to MAN recently, on a plane with one of those useful TV
>screen maps that show you very roughly how far you've gone and what towns
>you might be flying over. I reckon we passed through the air space of at
>least 6 different nations on the way. (I'm assuming Luxembourg doesn't get
>too bothered about its air space - presumably it lets one of its neighbours
>sort things out for it.)
>
> This set me off wondering about the arrangements for air traffic control
> where planes simply pass through without stopping. The Swiss and the
> Austrians must get really fed up with handling everybody else's non-stop
> flights. Do they raise charges for "transit" flights? Or is it all a free
> service?
>
> I've always assumed that ATC at origin and destination is paid for through
> landing charges at the destination airports but perhaps I've got that
> wrong too. Any information herzlich willkommen.
> --
> Joyce Whitchurch, Stalybridge, UK
> =================================
> Old enough to remember when MAN
> was still Ringway and had Alcock
> and Brown's biplane hanging up in
> the departure hall
By the way, you'll get a much more authoritative answer if you have a look
at PPrune.
date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:44:13 +0100
author: Graham Harrison
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