I have been complaining for years about BAAs advertising prices being
the same as in the High Street. Which High Street? Certainly not the
ones I shopin. The prices at BAA shops are way ABOVE High Street
prices. Even their Duty Free / Tax Free are above the normal High
Street prices. Its about time BAA was taken to court for misleading
the public. The wholly owned Spanish BAA is one of the worst of 'Rip
Off Britain.'

The Times has a major article about the rip off scams that BAA are
allegedly pulling at every airport it owns. See:

http://travel.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/travel/article2344055.ece

Millions misled over airport pricesBen Webster, Transport
Correspondent

BAA, the airport operator, has misled millions of passengers about
prices at shops and bars in its terminals, according to the
advertising watchdog.

It has been forced to withdraw leaflets claiming that passengers are
paying the same prices as in their local high street.

The Advertising Standards Authority upheld a complaint against the
leaflets after finding that prices at airports were substantially
higher. It found that passengers paid the same as at outlets in the
City of London and the West End, where rents mean retail prices are
the highest in the country.

A glass of house wine at a bar at Heathrow, Gatwick or Stansted cost
40 per cent more than in bars run by the same company in regional
towns and cities. BAA makes almost half its revenue from retailing and
has frequently been accused of focusing so heavily on maximising
income from shops that it neglects airport facilities and fails to
tackle the causes of delays.

One BAA leaflet, entitled Guide to Stansted Airport, stated: "The
price of all food and drink sold in BAA airports is matched with the
UK high street, so you won't pay a penny more than you' re used to."

The leaflet listed airport food and drink outlets. A second leaflet,
entitled Taste, stated: "Don't forget, our caterers are committed to
matching the price of all the food and drink they sell within their
airport stores against their high street equivalents." BAA told the
ASA that it had contracts with retailers which demanded price parity
with the high street. It claimed that prices at each airport were
compared with the local high street, or, in cases where the retailer
did not have a branch on that high street, with the nearest outlet.

snip ...

CJB.

"CJB"  wrote in message 
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>I have been complaining for years about BAAs advertising prices being
> the same as in the High Street. Which High Street? Certainly not the
> ones I shopin. The prices at BAA shops are way ABOVE High Street
> prices. Even their Duty Free / Tax Free are above the normal High
> Street prices. Its about time BAA was taken to court for misleading
> the public. The wholly owned Spanish BAA is one of the worst of 'Rip
> Off Britain.'

Whilst I can see that this leaflet is misleading I think that it
is unfair to suggest that the prices charged are a rip-off.

The problem with the leaflet is that it says the prices are the
same as in *your* high street when in fact the prices charged
are the same as the ones charged (in the same store) in
London branches.  I don't see the problem with this, LHR is,
in fact, in London.

It should be remembered that before this campaign (which
is many years old and predates Ferrovia buying BAA by a
long way), it used to be significantly more expensive to buy
things in the airport that outside with the franchised food
stores in particular charging up to twice the price.

tim

"CJB"  wrote in message 
news:1188726220.278312.179950@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>I have been complaining for years about BAAs advertising prices being
> the same as in the High Street. Which High Street? Certainly not the
> ones I shopin. The prices at BAA shops are way ABOVE High Street
> prices. Even their Duty Free / Tax Free are above the normal High
> Street prices. Its about time BAA was taken to court for misleading
> the public. The wholly owned Spanish BAA is one of the worst of 'Rip
> Off Britain.'

Two points.

1.  The Costa Coffee places at Heathrow charge exactly the same as they do 
anywhere else in the UK.

2.  £16 for two litres of premium brand booze isn't a bad price.

3.  What idiot eats meals or drinks pints of beer at airport restaurants?

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

In message , at 11:03:09 on Sun, 2 
Sep 2007, tim.....  remarked:
>The problem with the leaflet is that it says the prices are the
>same as in *your* high street when in fact the prices charged
>are the same as the ones charged (in the same store) in
>London branches.  I don't see the problem with this, LHR is,
>in fact, in London.

It's in Hounslow, which is a long way from the West End. The nearest 
"real" High Street is probably in Slough.
-- 
Roland Perry

In message , at 
02:43:40 on Sun, 2 Sep 2007, CJB  remarked:
>One BAA leaflet, entitled Guide to Stansted Airport, stated: "The
>price of all food and drink sold in BAA airports is matched with the
>UK high street, so you won't pay a penny more than you' re used to."
>
>The leaflet listed airport food and drink outlets. A second leaflet,
>entitled Taste, stated: "Don't forget, our caterers are committed to
>matching the price of all the food and drink they sell within their
>airport stores against their high street equivalents." BAA told the
>ASA that it had contracts with retailers which demanded price parity
>with the high street. It claimed that prices at each airport were
>compared with the local high street, or, in cases where the retailer
>did not have a branch on that high street, with the nearest outlet.

Luton Airport (yes, I know it's not BAA, but I'm pretty sure the retail 
outlets have a consistent policy across airports): £3.10 for a pint of 
lager landside,  £2.90 airside [is there VAT on beer, and would that 
account for the difference?]. Is that the price in a pub in Luton (can 
anyone comment?)
-- 
Roland Perry

Roland Perry  wrote:

> In message , at
> 02:43:40 on Sun, 2 Sep 2007, CJB  remarked:
[]
> >The leaflet listed airport food and drink outlets. A second leaflet,
> >entitled Taste, stated: "Don't forget, our caterers are committed to
> >matching the price of all the food and drink they sell within their
> >airport stores against their high street equivalents." BAA told the
> >ASA that it had contracts with retailers which demanded price parity
> >with the high street. It claimed that prices at each airport were
> >compared with the local high street, or, in cases where the retailer
> >did not have a branch on that high street, with the nearest outlet.
> 
> Luton Airport (yes, I know it's not BAA, but I'm pretty sure the retail
> outlets have a consistent policy across airports): £3.10 for a pint of
> lager landside,  £2.90 airside [is there VAT on beer, and would that 
> account for the difference?]. Is that the price in a pub in Luton (can
> anyone comment?)

Comparing the landside Wetherspoons at Liverpool John Lennon to central
Liverpool would be a good idea too. (Some bitters and lagers can be
bought for around £1.50 at Wetherspoons outside London.) Haven't been to
it, though I have been to the airside bar- don't know who runs it. It's
definitely more expensive than what I'd expect to pay on the street, but
not by a large margin. Also, it's bright, has lots of seats and tables,
and good service, which frankly, I'd hold in much higher regard in an
airport waiting lounge than whether or not the price was the same as on
the high street. I don't think bright and airy is an adjective that I
could apply to much of Heathrow...

-- 
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"He cant be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably 
is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush"

"William Black"  wrote in message 
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>
> "CJB"  wrote in message 
> news:1188726220.278312.179950@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>>I have been complaining for years about BAAs advertising prices being
>> the same as in the High Street. Which High Street? Certainly not the
>> ones I shopin. The prices at BAA shops are way ABOVE High Street
>> prices. Even their Duty Free / Tax Free are above the normal High
>> Street prices. Its about time BAA was taken to court for misleading
>> the public. The wholly owned Spanish BAA is one of the worst of 'Rip
>> Off Britain.'
>
> Two points.
>
> 1.  The Costa Coffee places at Heathrow charge exactly the same as they do 
> anywhere else in the UK.
>
> 2.  £16 for two litres of premium brand booze isn't a bad price.
>
> 3.  What idiot eats meals or drinks pints of beer at airport restaurants?
>


I have had to eat several times at LHR, Airside, when my connecting flight 
has been significantly delayed.

And, btw, your sig is becoming incredibly tedious!
-- 

JohnT

William Black  wrote:

> "CJB"  wrote in message 
> news:1188726220.278312.179950@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> >I have been complaining for years about BAAs advertising prices being
> > the same as in the High Street. Which High Street? Certainly not the
> > ones I shopin. The prices at BAA shops are way ABOVE High Street
> > prices. Even their Duty Free / Tax Free are above the normal High
> > Street prices. Its about time BAA was taken to court for misleading
> > the public. The wholly owned Spanish BAA is one of the worst of 'Rip
> > Off Britain.'
> 
> Two points.
> 
> 1.  The Costa Coffee places at Heathrow charge exactly the same as they do
> anywhere else in the UK.
> 
> 2.  £16 for two litres of premium brand booze isn't a bad price.
> 
> 3.  What idiot eats meals or drinks pints of beer at airport restaurants?

Isn't that three points?

How much do you fly? I will frequently have to leave home at 2 or 3 in
the afternoon, and not arrive at my destination until 10 or 11. That's
including the time from actually leaving my front door to arriving at my
hotel etc. at the final destination. If I want a hot meal in the
evening, eating at the airport makes perfect sense to me. Last time was
last week, before leaving for Alghero, and I ate at the airport- roast
chicken and rice. Wasn't bad, and cost £6. A plate of spaghetti in
Alghero can cost around the same, but in any case, I didn't want to wait
until 10.30pm to eat, and my partner would have refused to do so.

The flight back didn't leave until 10.10pm, so we were able to have an
early dinner in Alghero itself, once we found somewhere that would
servce before 7.30pm that was! :)

I simply don't mind the extra cost of coffee, food, or a drink at an
airport. I'm more concerned that I can buy something to eat or drink at
the airport, and get a seat to enjoy it in without much difficulty. In
_this_ respect, the airports I use most in the UK (Liverpool and
Manchester, neither BAA of course) do pretty well.

-- 
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"He cant be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably 
is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush"

horne answering someone else than evleth
oooooh !!!!

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)"  a écrit dans le 
message de news:1i3tbi5.6vgmc4sj2defN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk...
> Roland Perry  wrote:
>
>> In message , at
>> 02:43:40 on Sun, 2 Sep 2007, CJB  remarked:
> []
>> >The leaflet listed airport food and drink outlets. A second leaflet,
>> >entitled Taste, stated: "Don't forget, our caterers are committed to
>> >matching the price of all the food and drink they sell within their
>> >airport stores against their high street equivalents." BAA told the
>> >ASA that it had contracts with retailers which demanded price parity
>> >with the high street. It claimed that prices at each airport were
>> >compared with the local high street, or, in cases where the retailer
>> >did not have a branch on that high street, with the nearest outlet.
>>
>> Luton Airport (yes, I know it's not BAA, but I'm pretty sure the retail
>> outlets have a consistent policy across airports): £3.10 for a pint of
>> lager landside,  £2.90 airside [is there VAT on beer, and would that
>> account for the difference?]. Is that the price in a pub in Luton (can
>> anyone comment?)
>
> Comparing the landside Wetherspoons at Liverpool John Lennon to central
> Liverpool would be a good idea too. (Some bitters and lagers can be
> bought for around £1.50 at Wetherspoons outside London.) Haven't been to
> it, though I have been to the airside bar- don't know who runs it. It's
> definitely more expensive than what I'd expect to pay on the street, but
> not by a large margin. Also, it's bright, has lots of seats and tables,
> and good service, which frankly, I'd hold in much higher regard in an
> airport waiting lounge than whether or not the price was the same as on
> the high street. I don't think bright and airy is an adjective that I
> could apply to much of Heathrow...
>
> -- 
> (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
> http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
> "He cant be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably
> is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush"

JohnT  wrote:

> "William Black"  wrote in message 
> news:fbe5su$78m$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >
> > "CJB"  wrote in message 
> > news:1188726220.278312.179950@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> >>I have been complaining for years about BAAs advertising prices being
> >> the same as in the High Street. Which High Street? Certainly not the
> >> ones I shopin. The prices at BAA shops are way ABOVE High Street
> >> prices. Even their Duty Free / Tax Free are above the normal High
> >> Street prices. Its about time BAA was taken to court for misleading
> >> the public. The wholly owned Spanish BAA is one of the worst of 'Rip
> >> Off Britain.'
> >
> > Two points.
> >
> > 1.  The Costa Coffee places at Heathrow charge exactly the same as they do
> > anywhere else in the UK.
> >
> > 2.  £16 for two litres of premium brand booze isn't a bad price.
> >
> > 3.  What idiot eats meals or drinks pints of beer at airport restaurants?
> >
> 
> 
> I have had to eat several times at LHR, Airside, when my connecting flight
> has been significantly delayed.

I've eaten frequently, regardless of delays. Depending on where you're
going, the actual amount of time between arriving at the airport and
then arriving at your destination can amount to many hours- certainly
crossing over the time in which you'd normally feel like eating a meal.
If you're connecting on a flight from the UK to Europe, this can add
another several hours. For long-haul, you'll usually get something on
the plane of course (though even that's changing with low-cost operators
where you'll pay extra.)

When I was commuting from here to Barcelona, I usually had a drink or
two at the airport but skipped dinner, as I knew exactly when I'd get to
the hotel, and out to a nearby restaurant (which I knew would still be
serving), and simply preferred to eat there.

-- 
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"He cant be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably 
is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush"

Roland Perry wrote:
> In message , at 11:03:09 on Sun, 2 
> Sep 2007, tim.....  remarked:
>> The problem with the leaflet is that it says the prices are the
>> same as in *your* high street when in fact the prices charged
>> are the same as the ones charged (in the same store) in
>> London branches.  I don't see the problem with this, LHR is,
>> in fact, in London.
> 
> It's in Hounslow, which is a long way from the West End. The nearest 
> "real" High Street is probably in Slough.

No, Staines, Hounslow or Windsor, probably.

-- 

Stephen

Anita: Is genitalia the silver stuff you drape over the branches?
Bren: Yeah.

"JohnT"  wrote in message 
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> "William Black"  wrote in message 
> news:fbe5su$78m$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>> "CJB"  wrote in message 
>> news:1188726220.278312.179950@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>>>I have been complaining for years about BAAs advertising prices being
>>> the same as in the High Street. Which High Street? Certainly not the
>>> ones I shopin. The prices at BAA shops are way ABOVE High Street
>>> prices. Even their Duty Free / Tax Free are above the normal High
>>> Street prices. Its about time BAA was taken to court for misleading
>>> the public. The wholly owned Spanish BAA is one of the worst of 'Rip
>>> Off Britain.'
>>
>> Two points.
>>
>> 1.  The Costa Coffee places at Heathrow charge exactly the same as they 
>> do anywhere else in the UK.
>>
>> 2.  £16 for two litres of premium brand booze isn't a bad price.
>>
>> 3.  What idiot eats meals or drinks pints of beer at airport restaurants?
>>
>
>
> I have had to eat several times at LHR, Airside, when my connecting flight 
> has been significantly delayed.

Get a sandwitch at costa.

They're reasonably good and stave off the pangs until your airline can 
deliver you a tepid, plastic but free meal.

> And, btw, your sig is becoming incredibly tedious!

This any better?


-- 
William Black

Razors pain you, Rivers are damp
Acids stain you, And drugs cause cramp
Guns aren’t lawful, Nooses give
Gas smells awful, You might as well live."

"William Black"  wrote in message 
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>
> "JohnT"  wrote in message 
> news:WN6dnWmrssdUPEfbnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
>> "William Black"  wrote in message 
>> news:fbe5su$78m$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>
>>> "CJB"  wrote in message 
>>> news:1188726220.278312.179950@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>>>>I have been complaining for years about BAAs advertising prices being
>>>> the same as in the High Street. Which High Street? Certainly not the
>>>> ones I shopin. The prices at BAA shops are way ABOVE High Street
>>>> prices. Even their Duty Free / Tax Free are above the normal High
>>>> Street prices. Its about time BAA was taken to court for misleading
>>>> the public. The wholly owned Spanish BAA is one of the worst of 'Rip
>>>> Off Britain.'
>>>
>>> Two points.
>>>
>>> 1.  The Costa Coffee places at Heathrow charge exactly the same as they 
>>> do anywhere else in the UK.
>>>
>>> 2.  £16 for two litres of premium brand booze isn't a bad price.
>>>
>>> 3.  What idiot eats meals or drinks pints of beer at airport 
>>> restaurants?
>>>
>>
>>
>> I have had to eat several times at LHR, Airside, when my connecting 
>> flight has been significantly delayed.
>
> Get a sandwitch at costa.
>
> They're reasonably good and stave off the pangs until your airline can 
> deliver you a tepid, plastic but free meal.
>
>> And, btw, your sig is becoming incredibly tedious!
>
> This any better?

When I have a delayed flight or a long connection, then I much prefer to 
have a proper meal in a restaurant where I can sit at a table and be served. 
And the last time I had a pint at LHR, it cost about the same as a 12 ounce 
can of Budweiser on AA (which I didn't buy).

In answer to your question, no. Your sig would be perfect if it terminated 
with your name.

-- 

JohnT

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>
> "JohnT"  wrote in message 
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>> "William Black"  wrote in message 
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>>>
>>> "CJB"  wrote in message 
>>> news:1188726220.278312.179950@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>>>>I have been complaining for years about BAAs advertising prices being
>>>> the same as in the High Street. Which High Street? Certainly not the
>>>> ones I shopin. The prices at BAA shops are way ABOVE High Street
>>>> prices. Even their Duty Free / Tax Free are above the normal High
>>>> Street prices. Its about time BAA was taken to court for misleading
>>>> the public. The wholly owned Spanish BAA is one of the worst of 'Rip
>>>> Off Britain.'
>>>
>>> Two points.
>>>
>>> 1.  The Costa Coffee places at Heathrow charge exactly the same as they 
>>> do anywhere else in the UK.
>>>
>>> 2.  £16 for two litres of premium brand booze isn't a bad price.
>>>
>>> 3.  What idiot eats meals or drinks pints of beer at airport 
>>> restaurants?
>>>
>>
>>
>> I have had to eat several times at LHR, Airside, when my connecting 
>> flight has been significantly delayed.
>
> Get a sandwitch at costa.
>
> They're reasonably good and stave off the pangs until your airline can 
> deliver you a tepid, plastic but free meal.

It must have been about five years ago that an airline
travelling in Europe served me anything approaching
a free meal.

You either exclusively fly long haul or are seriously out of
touch

tim

JohnT  wrote:

[]
> When I have a delayed flight or a long connection, then I much prefer to
> have a proper meal in a restaurant where I can sit at a table and be served.
> And the last time I had a pint at LHR, it cost about the same as a 12 ounce
> can of Budweiser on AA (which I didn't buy).

The only US airline I can think of which serves free booze in economy on
transatlantic flights is NW- at least as of January this year...

-- 
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"He cant be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably 
is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush"

William Black  wrote:

> "JohnT"  wrote in message 
> news:WN6dnWmrssdUPEfbnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
[]
> > I have had to eat several times at LHR, Airside, when my connecting flight
> > has been significantly delayed.
> 
> Get a sandwitch at costa.
> 
> They're reasonably good and stave off the pangs until your airline can
> deliver you a tepid, plastic but free meal.

You don't fly much in Europe then, I take it. You don't get free meals
on most European routes in economy any more- some airlines let you pay
for one though. Some will serve a small sandwhich for free, and that's
about it.

-- 
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"He cant be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably 
is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush"

In article <1i3tgec.4w7kllm3kzxbN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>, d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk 
says...
> William Black  wrote:
> 
> > "JohnT"  wrote in message 
> > news:WN6dnWmrssdUPEfbnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
> []
> > > I have had to eat several times at LHR, Airside, when my connecting flight
> > > has been significantly delayed.
> > 
> > Get a sandwitch at costa.
> > 
> > They're reasonably good and stave off the pangs until your airline can
> > deliver you a tepid, plastic but free meal.
> 
> You don't fly much in Europe then, I take it. You don't get free meals
> on most European routes in economy any more- some airlines let you pay
> for one though. Some will serve a small sandwhich for free, and that's
> about it.

Ryanair's ``Snack Pack`` is legendary, superb value for money and contains 
enough stuff to feed a small nation.

Jim














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On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:13:10 +0100, "William Black"
 wrote:


>3.  What idiot eats meals or drinks pints of beer at airport restaurants?

The idiots who have been stuck in a 10 mile traffic queue on a
motorway and have gone like mad to catch a flight only to be told
their flight is delayed for a few hours . Besides which why should
people have to be paying extra for food etc at airports or on trains
for that matter when traveling. I shall be going over to Belgium on
Euros tar on Tuesday next and the prices charged on Eurostar for a
simple cup of tea or coffee are outrageous and Virgin trains are more
expensive . All outlets where they know they have captive customers
are intent on ripping people of left right and center, going out I
take my own food and drink but forced to pay their rip off charges on
the return journey or die of thirst and starvation .

Do you starve yourself from leaving home until you get to your
destination or something ?????? .

"::::Jim Mason::::"  wrote in message 
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> In article <1i3tgec.4w7kllm3kzxbN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>, d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk
> says...
>> William Black  wrote:
>>
>> > "JohnT"  wrote in message
>> > news:WN6dnWmrssdUPEfbnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
>> []
>> > > I have had to eat several times at LHR, Airside, when my connecting 
>> > > flight
>> > > has been significantly delayed.
>> >
>> > Get a sandwitch at costa.
>> >
>> > They're reasonably good and stave off the pangs until your airline can
>> > deliver you a tepid, plastic but free meal.
>>
>> You don't fly much in Europe then, I take it. You don't get free meals
>> on most European routes in economy any more- some airlines let you pay
>> for one though. Some will serve a small sandwhich for free, and that's
>> about it.
>
> Ryanair's ``Snack Pack`` is legendary, superb value for money and contains
> enough stuff to feed a small nation.
>
> Jim
>
> they got something right then  MMMMmmm must have missed it
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> ;-)
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"::::Jim Mason::::"  wrote in message 
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>
> Ryanair's ``Snack Pack`` is legendary, superb value for money and contains
> enough stuff to feed a small nation.
>
> Jim
>

Just interested...what does this "Snack Pack" contain and at what price.  I 
have never flown with a "budget" airline as I have only ever used BA for my 
Euro travels.

MC

In message <fbe5su$78m$1@registered.motzarella.org>, at 12:13:10 on Sun, 
2 Sep 2007, William Black  remarked:

>3.  What idiot eats meals or drinks pints of beer at airport restaurants?

One who is in the middle of a long journey, and doesn't want to venture 
outside the airport instead. Can you name the closest cheaper place, if 
I was travelling through Heathrow or Gatwick?
-- 
Roland Perry

wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:13:10 +0100, "William Black"
>  wrote:
>
> All outlets where they know they have captive customers
> are intent on ripping people of left right and center, going out I
> take my own food and drink but forced to pay their rip off charges on
> the return journey or die of thirst and starvation .
>

Never more so than in the UK.  I have flown all over the world, US, SE Asia, 
Australia/NZ, as well as Europe and I have NEVER come across any airports 
that are as expensive as the London airports.  I am fortunate that I often 
fly Business Class and can, thus, use the lounges but occasionally I have to 
use the airport catering outlets.  They are, indeed, a rip off but I do 
agree that sometimes one is "forced" to pay up or starve.

MC

On 2 Sep, 14:57, "MC"  wrote:
> "::::Jim Mason::::"  wrote in message
>
> news:MPG.2144c8e5ac7ba39398a692@130.133.1.4...
>
>
>
> > Ryanair's ``Snack Pack`` is legendary, superb value for money and contains
> > enough stuff to feed a small nation.
>
> > Jim
>
> Just interested...what does this "Snack Pack" contain and at what price.  I
> have never flown with a "budget" airline as I have only ever used BA for my
> Euro travels.

BA Disconnect will also charge you (although I think no long owned by
BA, so BA 'proper' must have less routes).

Most non-budget airlines on Euro pond-hopper routes include a snack of
some sort.

The the problem is not the cost is so high (usually it isn't), just
the inconvenience of fannying around with change/different currencies
for the passengers and the cabin staff.  The whole thing could be
streamlined if it was included in the cost of a ticket.

Of course you could upgrade to business class and go from a snack to
something more like a proper meal, but that can cost you several
hundred pounds.  Now that is likely the most expensive mean you will
every buy..









>
> MC

> Never more so than in the UK.  I have flown all over the world, US,
> SE Asia, Australia/NZ, as well as Europe and I have NEVER come
> across any airports that are as expensive as the London airports.

You haven't ordered a drink from the bar at Ankara, then.

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In message <fbea6e$jku$1@registered.motzarella.org>, at 13:26:31 on Sun, 
2 Sep 2007, William Black  remarked:
>They're reasonably good and stave off the pangs until your airline can
>deliver you a tepid, plastic but free meal.

I've just got off an EZY flight and their meal wasn't free. Just a 
costa-lot slice of Pizza and a soft drink for £5.50 (I passed). The 
sandwiches were cold, rather than tepid.
-- 
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry"  wrote in message 
news:2hbXxQFoxp2GFAWu@perry.co.uk...
> In message <fbe5su$78m$1@registered.motzarella.org>, at 12:13:10 on Sun, 2 
> Sep 2007, William Black  remarked:
>
>>3.  What idiot eats meals or drinks pints of beer at airport restaurants?
>
> One who is in the middle of a long journey, and doesn't want to venture 
> outside the airport instead. Can you name the closest cheaper place, if I 
> was travelling through Heathrow or Gatwick?

As I said,  Costa Coffee have plenty of places at Heathrow and sell at their 
usual high street price.

I believe that TGI Friday in Heathrow Terminal 3 boasts about charging 
exactly the same as everywhere else in the chain as well...

I'm afraid I haven't travelled through Gatwick for years.

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"JohnT"  wrote in message 
news:zLmdnSUbxI9nLEfbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...

> When I have a delayed flight or a long connection, then I much prefer to 
> have a proper meal in a restaurant where I can sit at a table and be 
> served.

TGI FRiday's serve at street prices in Heathrow Terminal 3

> And the last time I had a pint at LHR, it cost about the same as a 12 
> ounce can of Budweiser on AA (which I didn't buy).

I've no idea what airlines charge for beer.  I must be honest,  I've never 
been on a flight that lasted longer than an hour or so where they don't give 
it way free.

>
> In answer to your question, no. Your sig would be perfect if it terminated 
> with your name.

Nope,  sorry.


-- 
William Black

Free men have open minds
If you want loyalty, buy a dog

"tim....."  wrote in message 
news:5jvqhaF1fksaU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "William Black"  wrote in message 
> news:fbea6e$jku$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>> "JohnT"  wrote in message 
>> news:WN6dnWmrssdUPEfbnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
>>> "William Black"  wrote in message 
>>> news:fbe5su$78m$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>
>>>> "CJB"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:1188726220.278312.179950@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>I have been complaining for years about BAAs advertising prices being
>>>>> the same as in the High Street. Which High Street? Certainly not the
>>>>> ones I shopin. The prices at BAA shops are way ABOVE High Street
>>>>> prices. Even their Duty Free / Tax Free are above the normal High
>>>>> Street prices. Its about time BAA was taken to court for misleading
>>>>> the public. The wholly owned Spanish BAA is one of the worst of 'Rip
>>>>> Off Britain.'
>>>>
>>>> Two points.
>>>>
>>>> 1.  The Costa Coffee places at Heathrow charge exactly the same as they 
>>>> do anywhere else in the UK.
>>>>
>>>> 2.  £16 for two litres of premium brand booze isn't a bad price.
>>>>
>>>> 3.  What idiot eats meals or drinks pints of beer at airport 
>>>> restaurants?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have had to eat several times at LHR, Airside, when my connecting 
>>> flight has been significantly delayed.
>>
>> Get a sandwitch at costa.
>>
>> They're reasonably good and stave off the pangs until your airline can 
>> deliver you a tepid, plastic but free meal.
>
> It must have been about five years ago that an airline
> travelling in Europe served me anything approaching
> a free meal.
>
> You either exclusively fly long haul or are seriously out of
> touch

Longhaul or 'frequent flyer card' on BMI, and so free food and booze.

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)"  wrote in message 
news:1i3tgec.4w7kllm3kzxbN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk...
> William Black  wrote:
>
>> "JohnT"  wrote in message
>> news:WN6dnWmrssdUPEfbnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
> []
>> > I have had to eat several times at LHR, Airside, when my connecting 
>> > flight
>> > has been significantly delayed.
>>
>> Get a sandwitch at costa.
>>
>> They're reasonably good and stave off the pangs until your airline can
>> deliver you a tepid, plastic but free meal.
>
> You don't fly much in Europe then, I take it. You don't get free meals
> on most European routes in economy any more- some airlines let you pay
> for one though. Some will serve a small sandwhich for free, and that's
> about it.

BMI 'frequent flyer card'.

Free food and booze.

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

In message <fbe9nn$qt8$6@news.datemas.de>, at 13:20:03 on Sun, 2 Sep 
2007, Stephen Farrow  remarked:
>>  It's in Hounslow, which is a long way from the West End. The nearest 
>>"real" High Street is probably in Slough.
>
>No, Staines, Hounslow or Windsor, probably.

Staines and Hounslow each 5 miles, Slough 8 miles, Windsor 11 miles.
-- 
Roland Perry

In message , at 
07:49:43 on Sun, 2 Sep 2007, whitely525@yahoo.co.uk remarked:
>Most non-budget airlines on Euro pond-hopper routes include a snack of
>some sort.

Can depend on the time of day. KLM only seem to give you a sandwich if 
it's a mealtime, otherwise it's a bag of pretzels (or whatever).

>The the problem is not the cost is so high (usually it isn't), just
>the inconvenience of fannying around with change/different currencies
>for the passengers and the cabin staff.  The whole thing could be
>streamlined if it was included in the cost of a ticket.

Sadly, the low-costs "only" make about a fiver per passenger trip (adds 
up, over millions of trips). So any extra money on food is quite a bonus 
on top of that. And giving a free sandwich to someone who has only paid 
a pound for the fare doesn't sound like good business to me.

I have also discovered that they just don't have the staff to serve a 
whole plane. On a one-hour hop it's unusual for them to make it all the 
way down the aisle in the half hour 'in the middle'.
-- 
Roland Perry

wrote in message 
news:k9eld31u7ni1bvf6l1pko8estrkecu9llf@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:13:10 +0100, "William Black"
>  wrote:
>
>
>>3.  What idiot eats meals or drinks pints of beer at airport restaurants?
>
> The idiots who have been stuck in a 10 mile traffic queue on a
> motorway and have gone like mad to catch a flight only to be told
> their flight is delayed for a few hours . Besides which why should
> people have to be paying extra for food etc at airports or on trains
> for that matter when traveling. I shall be going over to Belgium on
> Euros tar on Tuesday next and the prices charged on Eurostar for a
> simple cup of tea or coffee are outrageous and Virgin trains are more
> expensive . All outlets where they know they have captive customers
> are intent on ripping people of left right and center, going out I
> take my own food and drink but forced to pay their rip off charges on
> the return journey or die of thirst and starvation .
>
> Do you starve yourself from leaving home until you get to your
> destination or something ?????? .

Water and sandwiches outbound usually.

Coming back the worst bit used to be the dreaded 'Gate 8' at Heathrow 
Terminal 1.

But there's a BMI frequent flyer lounge there, so now I eat for free...

If it wasn't there then it's Costa Coffee...

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"::::Jim Mason::::"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.2144c8e5ac7ba39398a692@130.133.1.4...
> In article <1i3tgec.4w7kllm3kzxbN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>, d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk
> says...
>> William Black  wrote:
>>
>> > "JohnT"  wrote in message
>> > news:WN6dnWmrssdUPEfbnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
>> []
>> > > I have had to eat several times at LHR, Airside, when my connecting 
>> > > flight
>> > > has been significantly delayed.
>> >
>> > Get a sandwitch at costa.
>> >
>> > They're reasonably good and stave off the pangs until your airline can
>> > deliver you a tepid, plastic but free meal.
>>
>> You don't fly much in Europe then, I take it. You don't get free meals
>> on most European routes in economy any more- some airlines let you pay
>> for one though. Some will serve a small sandwhich for free, and that's
>> about it.
>
> Ryanair's ``Snack Pack`` is legendary,

Yep sure is.

That is, it doesn't exist in real life anymore

tim

::::Jim Mason::::  wrote:

> In article <1i3tgec.4w7kllm3kzxbN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>, d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk
> says...
> > William Black  wrote:
> > 
> > > "JohnT"  wrote in message 
> > > news:WN6dnWmrssdUPEfbnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
> > []
> > > > I have had to eat several times at LHR, Airside, when my connecting
> > > > flight has been significantly delayed.
> > > 
> > > Get a sandwitch at costa.
> > > 
> > > They're reasonably good and stave off the pangs until your airline can
> > > deliver you a tepid, plastic but free meal.
> > 
> > You don't fly much in Europe then, I take it. You don't get free meals
> > on most European routes in economy any more- some airlines let you pay
> > for one though. Some will serve a small sandwhich for free, and that's
> > about it.
> 
> Ryanair's ``Snack Pack`` is legendary, superb value for money and contains
> enough stuff to feed a small nation.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ;-)

I was worried there for a moment! :)

I had the easyjet breakfast ciabatta a few times and enjoyed it!

-- 
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"He cant be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably 
is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush"

Roland Perry wrote:
> In message <fbe9nn$qt8$6@news.datemas.de>, at 13:20:03 on Sun, 2 Sep 
> 2007, Stephen Farrow  remarked:
>>>  It's in Hounslow, which is a long way from the West End. The nearest 
>>> "real" High Street is probably in Slough.
>>
>> No, Staines, Hounslow or Windsor, probably.
> 
> Staines and Hounslow each 5 miles, Slough 8 miles, Windsor 11 miles.

So Slough is not the nearest "real" high street, Staines and Hounslow are.

-- 

Stephen

Rose: What about the skin? I saw it. You... you got ripped apart!
Cassandra: That piece of skin was from the front of my body. This piece 
is the back.
Rose: Haha, right, so you're talking out of your ar...
Cassandra: Ask not!

In article , tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk 
says...
> 
> "::::Jim Mason::::"  wrote in message 
> news:MPG.2144c8e5ac7ba39398a692@130.133.1.4...
> > In article <1i3tgec.4w7kllm3kzxbN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>, d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk
> > says...
> >> William Black  wrote:
> >>
> >> > "JohnT"  wrote in message
> >> > news:WN6dnWmrssdUPEfbnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
> >> []
> >> > > I have had to eat several times at LHR, Airside, when my connecting 
> >> > > flight
> >> > > has been significantly delayed.
> >> >
> >> > Get a sandwitch at costa.
> >> >
> >> > They're reasonably good and stave off the pangs until your airline can
> >> > deliver you a tepid, plastic but free meal.
> >>
> >> You don't fly much in Europe then, I take it. You don't get free meals
> >> on most European routes in economy any more- some airlines let you pay
> >> for one though. Some will serve a small sandwhich for free, and that's
> >> about it.
> >
> > Ryanair's ``Snack Pack`` is legendary,
> 
> Yep sure is.
> 
> That is, it doesn't exist in real life anymore

What, since two weeks back today on the Bergamo to Prestwick flight? It 
certainly wasn't imaginary then. Care to explain?

Jim
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:24:10 +0100, "MC"  wrote:


>Never more so than in the UK.  I have flown all over the world, US, SE Asia, 
>Australia/NZ, as well as Europe and I have NEVER come across any airports 
>that are as expensive as the London airports. 
Ever tried Manchester ? .

In message 
          Roland Perry  wrote:

> In message <fbe9nn$qt8$6@news.datemas.de>, at 13:20:03 on Sun, 2 Sep 
> 2007, Stephen Farrow  remarked:
> >>  It's in Hounslow, which is a long way from the West End. The nearest 
> >>"real" High Street is probably in Slough.
> >
> >No, Staines, Hounslow or Windsor, probably.
> 
> Staines and Hounslow each 5 miles, Slough 8 miles, Windsor 11 miles.

What about Feltham?

-- 
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at <http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html>

In message <fbekhf$hli$1@registered.motzarella.org>
          "William Black"  wrote:

[snip]
> 
> > 
> > In answer to your question, no. Your sig would be perfect if it
> > terminated  with your name.
> 
> Nope,  sorry.
> 
> 

I know it is a pastiche from a piece of Science Fiction but cannot remember
what, can you enlighten me?  Larry Niven perhaps????

-- 
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at <http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html>

On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:16:58 +0100, "William Black"
 wrote:

>
>"Roland Perry"  wrote in message 
>news:2hbXxQFoxp2GFAWu@perry.co.uk...
>> In message <fbe5su$78m$1@registered.motzarella.org>, at 12:13:10 on Sun, 2 
>> Sep 2007, William Black  remarked:
>>
>>>3.  What idiot eats meals or drinks pints of beer at airport restaurants?
>>
>> One who is in the middle of a long journey, and doesn't want to venture 
>> outside the airport instead. Can you name the closest cheaper place, if I 
>> was travelling through Heathrow or Gatwick?
>
>As I said,  Costa Coffee have plenty of places at Heathrow and sell at their 
>usual high street price.

Which is again expensive there is no justification for any outlet
charging the amounts they do for tea and coffee .

In article , incog_mail@yahoo.com says...
> "::::Jim Mason::::"  wrote in message 
> news:MPG.2144c8e5ac7ba39398a692@130.133.1.4...
> >
> > Ryanair's ``Snack Pack`` is legendary, superb value for money and contains
> > enough stuff to feed a small nation.

> Just interested...what does this "Snack Pack" contain and at what price.  I 
> have never flown with a "budget" airline as I have only ever used BA for my 
> Euro travels.

4 (yes four) crackers, a 1cm square pack of pate, a 1cm square pack of 
spreading cheese, 2 mini Mars Bars, 8 (yes eight!) mini-Cheddars all for €5 - 
truly superb stuff. I couldn't eat for a week and was glad they had run out of 
the Chicken Ceaser wrap or I would have to had taken half of it home with me 
;-)

Jim
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"Graeme Wall"  wrote in message 
news:2e74191c4f%rail@greywall.demon.co.uk...
> In message <fbekhf$hli$1@registered.motzarella.org>
>          "William Black"  wrote:
>
> [snip]
>>
>> >
>> > In answer to your question, no. Your sig would be perfect if it
>> > terminated  with your name.
>>
>> Nope,  sorry.
>>
>>
>
> I know it is a pastiche from a piece of Science Fiction but cannot 
> remember
> what, can you enlighten me?  Larry Niven perhaps????

A parody of Roy Batty's death speech from the movie 'Bladerunner'

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

wrote in message 
news:s2pld35niqtviipao3je7k01e34k6vtdgu@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:16:58 +0100, "William Black"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Roland Perry"  wrote in message
>>news:2hbXxQFoxp2GFAWu@perry.co.uk...
>>> In message <fbe5su$78m$1@registered.motzarella.org>, at 12:13:10 on Sun, 
>>> 2
>>> Sep 2007, William Black  remarked:
>>>
>>>>3.  What idiot eats meals or drinks pints of beer at airport 
>>>>restaurants?
>>>
>>> One who is in the middle of a long journey, and doesn't want to venture
>>> outside the airport instead. Can you name the closest cheaper place, if 
>>> I
>>> was travelling through Heathrow or Gatwick?
>>
>>As I said,  Costa Coffee have plenty of places at Heathrow and sell at 
>>their
>>usual high street price.
>
> Which is again expensive there is no justification for any outlet
> charging the amounts they do for tea and coffee .

You know of somewhere that sells a decent cup of coffee for less than £1:50

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

wrote in message 
news:orold31gv98flp1dlo9qsh2fipm0gge4fb@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:24:10 +0100, "MC"  wrote:
>
>
>>Never more so than in the UK.  I have flown all over the world, US, SE 
>>Asia,
>>Australia/NZ, as well as Europe and I have NEVER come across any airports
>>that are as expensive as the London airports.
> Ever tried Manchester ? .
>

Same prices

Leeds is cheaper.

A local bakery has opened a shop there and is charging street prices for 
sandwiches and pies.


-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:24:10 +0100, "MC"  wrote:
> 
> 
> >Never more so than in the UK.  I have flown all over the world, US, SE Asia,
> >Australia/NZ, as well as Europe and I have NEVER come across any airports
> >that are as expensive as the London airports. 
> Ever tried Manchester ? .

More to the point, I think, is to compare prices in cities to their
airports. A coffee at BCN costs quite a bit more than in most cafes in
Barcelona, for example. I was shocked, I have to admit, to find 500ml
water bottles for 50 euro cents _airside_ at Alghero airport...

-- 
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"He cant be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably 
is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush"

In message <fbepm7$1od$1@registered.motzarella.org>
          "William Black"  wrote:

> 
> "Graeme Wall"  wrote in message 
> news:2e74191c4f%rail@greywall.demon.co.uk...
> > In message <fbekhf$hli$1@registered.motzarella.org>
> >          "William Black"  wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >>
> >> >
> >> > In answer to your question, no. Your sig would be perfect if it
> >> > terminated  with your name.
> >>
> >> Nope,  sorry.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I know it is a pastiche from a piece of Science Fiction but cannot 
> > remember
> > what, can you enlighten me?  Larry Niven perhaps????
> 
> A parody of Roy Batty's death speech from the movie 'Bladerunner'
> 

Thanks.

-- 
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at <http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html>

Graeme Wall wrote:
> In message 
>           Roland Perry  wrote:
> 
>> In message <fbe9nn$qt8$6@news.datemas.de>, at 13:20:03 on Sun, 2 Sep 
>> 2007, Stephen Farrow  remarked:
>>>>  It's in Hounslow, which is a long way from the West End. The nearest 
>>>> "real" High Street is probably in Slough.
>>> No, Staines, Hounslow or Windsor, probably.
>> Staines and Hounslow each 5 miles, Slough 8 miles, Windsor 11 miles.
> 
> What about Feltham?
> 

Closer, but far fewer shops than Staines or Hounslow.

-- 

Stephen

Correctamundo! A word I've never used before, and hopefully never will 
again...

In article <1i3tcr7.40jk67rxskbwN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>, "David Horne, 
_the_ chancellor (*)"  writes

>I simply don't mind the extra cost of coffee, food, or a drink at an
>airport. I'm more concerned that I can buy something to eat or drink at
>the airport, and get a seat to enjoy it in without much difficulty. In
>_this_ respect, the airports I use most in the UK (Liverpool and
>Manchester, neither BAA of course) do pretty well.

I don't mind eating and drinking at the airport either - if I need to 
get up for an early flight I don't want breakfast at 3am. A better time 
to eat is the airside lounge after check in.

The main factors for me are choice and quality, areas in which the main 
UK airports have improved considerably. I can get a decent meal and a 
good cup of coffee now in most, and if I just want a cheap soft drink, 
water or a sandwich, there's often a Boots, WH Smith or Pret A Manger.

Compare with other airports, such as Corfu where I was last Monday - 
horrible barely filled sandwiches and rolls at prices way over the norm 
for the island. I was lucky and my flight got away early. My friends' 
flight was delayed by more than seven hours, but the airline arranged 
for them to be bussed to somewhere decent in town for lunch.

Prague, Alghero and Palma aren't much better.
-- 
congokid
Eating out in London? Read my tips...
http://congokid.com

wrote in message 
news:1188744583.624816.172840@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On 2 Sep, 14:57, "MC"  wrote:
>> "::::Jim Mason::::"  wrote in 
>> message
>>
>> news:MPG.2144c8e5ac7ba39398a692@130.133.1.4...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Ryanair's ``Snack Pack`` is legendary, superb value for money and 
>> > contains
>> > enough stuff to feed a small nation.
>>
>> > Jim
>>
>> Just interested...what does this "Snack Pack" contain and at what price. 
>> I
>> have never flown with a "budget" airline as I have only ever used BA for 
>> my
>> Euro travels.
>
> BA Disconnect will also charge you (although I think no long owned by
> BA, so BA 'proper' must have less routes).
>
> Most non-budget airlines on Euro pond-hopper routes include a snack of
> some sort.

Not on the routes I fly they don't.  Everyone, not just the
LCCs, have gone over to paid for stuff only

tim

"Jim Mason"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.2144f1ed7a2bc76798a695@130.133.1.4...
> In article , tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk
> says...
>>
>> "::::Jim Mason::::"  wrote in 
>> message
>> news:MPG.2144c8e5ac7ba39398a692@130.133.1.4...
>> > In article <1i3tgec.4w7kllm3kzxbN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>, 
>> > d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk
>> > says...
>> >> William Black  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > "JohnT"  wrote in message
>> >> > news:WN6dnWmrssdUPEfbnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
>> >> []
>> >> > > I have had to eat several times at LHR, Airside, when my 
>> >> > > connecting
>> >> > > flight
>> >> > > has been significantly delayed.
>> >> >
>> >> > Get a sandwitch at costa.
>> >> >
>> >> > They're reasonably good and stave off the pangs until your airline 
>> >> > can
>> >> > deliver you a tepid, plastic but free meal.
>> >>
>> >> You don't fly much in Europe then, I take it. You don't get free meals
>> >> on most European routes in economy any more- some airlines let you pay
>> >> for one though. Some will serve a small sandwhich for free, and that's
>> >> about it.
>> >
>> > Ryanair's ``Snack Pack`` is legendary,
>>
>> Yep sure is.
>>
>> That is, it doesn't exist in real life anymore
>
> What, since two weeks back today on the Bergamo to Prestwick flight? It
> certainly wasn't imaginary then. Care to explain?

Must be special to Prestwick.  Never been offered on a flight
that I was on.

tim

"William Black"  wrote in message 
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>
>  wrote in message 
> news:s2pld35niqtviipao3je7k01e34k6vtdgu@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:16:58 +0100, "William Black"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Roland Perry"  wrote in message
>>>news:2hbXxQFoxp2GFAWu@perry.co.uk...
>>>> In message <fbe5su$78m$1@registered.motzarella.org>, at 12:13:10 on 
>>>> Sun, 2
>>>> Sep 2007, William Black  remarked:
>>>>
>>>>>3.  What idiot eats meals or drinks pints of beer at airport 
>>>>>restaurants?
>>>>
>>>> One who is in the middle of a long journey, and doesn't want to venture
>>>> outside the airport instead. Can you name the closest cheaper place, if 
>>>> I
>>>> was travelling through Heathrow or Gatwick?
>>>
>>>As I said,  Costa Coffee have plenty of places at Heathrow and sell at 
>>>their
>>>usual high street price.
>>
>> Which is again expensive there is no justification for any outlet
>> charging the amounts they do for tea and coffee .
>
> You know of somewhere that sells a decent cup of coffee for less than 
> £1:50
>

Wetherspoons 79p. except in the South-east and at airports.
-- 

JohnT

wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:16:58 +0100, "William Black"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Roland Perry"  wrote in message
>>news:2hbXxQFoxp2GFAWu@perry.co.uk...
>>> In message <fbe5su$78m$1@registered.motzarella.org>, at 12:13:10 on Sun, 
>>> 2
>>> Sep 2007, William Black  remarked:
>>>
>>>>3.  What idiot eats meals or drinks pints of beer at airport 
>>>>restaurants?
>>>
>>> One who is in the middle of a long journey, and doesn't want to venture
>>> outside the airport instead. Can you name the closest cheaper place, if 
>>> I
>>> was travelling through Heathrow or Gatwick?
>>
>>As I said,  Costa Coffee have plenty of places at Heathrow and sell at 
>>their
>>usual high street price.
>
> Which is again expensive there is no justification for any outlet
> charging the amounts they do for tea and coffee .

This part I agree with, but it is not the issue.

tim

"William Black"  wrote in message 
news:fbekkp$hub$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)"  wrote in message 
> news:1i3tgec.4w7kllm3kzxbN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk...
>> William Black  wrote:
>>
>>> "JohnT"  wrote in message
>>> news:WN6dnWmrssdUPEfbnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
>> []
>>> > I have had to eat several times at LHR, Airside, when my connecting 
>>> > flight
>>> > has been significantly delayed.
>>>
>>> Get a sandwitch at costa.
>>>
>>> They're reasonably good and stave off the pangs until your airline can
>>> deliver you a tepid, plastic but free meal.
>>
>> You don't fly much in Europe then, I take it. You don't get free meals
>> on most European routes in economy any more- some airlines let you pay
>> for one though. Some will serve a small sandwhich for free, and that's
>> about it.
>
> BMI 'frequent flyer card'.

Ah, the only BMI flights that I went on were the LH
codeshare ones, and LH food rules applied. During my
time this went from, meal to sandwich, to chocolate bar
to nothing.  Could still fill up in the LH lounge though.

tim

On Sep 2, 10:24 am, "MC"  wrote:
>  wrote in message
>
> news:k9eld31u7ni1bvf6l1pko8estrkecu9llf@4ax.com...
>
> > On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:13:10 퍝, "William Black"
> >  wrote:
>
> > All outlets where they know they have captive customers
> > are intent on ripping people of left right and center, going out I
> > take my own food and drink but forced to pay their rip off charges on
> > the return journey or die of thirst and starvation .


I've never seen an airport have extortionate food prices.  Most of
them are roughly as expensive as the cities they are in, not more or
less, except that Third World airports generally have near-Western-
level prices.  London is an expensive city in general, and even fast
food prices there are higher than almost everywhere else, and the
airport isn't really different than prices in the rest of the city.

> Never more so than in the UK.  I have flown all over the world, US, SE Asia,
> Australia/NZ, as well as Europe and I have NEVER come across any airports
> that are as expensive as the London airports.


Give me a break.  So you pay £6.50 for a sandwich, chips and drink
which would normally cost £4.75.  Big deal.  You spend thousands of
pounds on a trip, you shouldn't complain about an extra pound or two
for food at the airport.

Nothing written by me appears in this post.

please be more careful with your attributions.

-- 
William Black

Razors pain you, Rivers are damp
Acids stain you, And drugs cause cramp
Guns aren't lawful, Nooses give
Gas smells awful, You might as well live."


"Iceman"  wrote in message 
news:1188759190.446401.257810@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 2, 10:24 am, "MC"  wrote:
>  wrote in message
>
> news:k9eld31u7ni1bvf6l1pko8estrkecu9llf@4ax.com...
>
> > On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:13:10 +0100, "William Black"
> >  wrote:
>
> > All outlets where they know they have captive customers
> > are intent on ripping people of left right and center, going out I
> > take my own food and drink but forced to pay their rip off charges on
> > the return journey or die of thirst and starvation .


I've never seen an airport have extortionate food prices.  Most of
them are roughly as expensive as the cities they are in, not more or
less, except that Third World airports generally have near-Western-
level prices.  London is an expensive city in general, and even fast
food prices there are higher than almost everywhere else, and the
airport isn't really different than prices in the rest of the city.

> Never more so than in the UK.  I have flown all over the world, US, SE 
> Asia,
> Australia/NZ, as well as Europe and I have NEVER come across any airports
> that are as expensive as the London airports.


Give me a break.  So you pay £6.50 for a sandwich, chips and drink
which would normally cost £4.75.  Big deal.  You spend thousands of
pounds on a trip, you shouldn't complain about an extra pound or two
for food at the airport.

In article , tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk 
says...
> 
> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message 
> news:MPG.2144f1ed7a2bc76798a695@130.133.1.4...
> > In article , tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk
> > says...
> >>
> >> "::::Jim Mason::::"  wrote in 
> >> message
> >> news:MPG.2144c8e5ac7ba39398a692@130.133.1.4...
> >> > In article <1i3tgec.4w7kllm3kzxbN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>, 
> >> > d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk
> >> > says...
> >> >> William Black  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > "JohnT"  wrote in message
> >> >> > news:WN6dnWmrssdUPEfbnZ2dnUVZ8tGqnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
> >> >> []
> >> >> > > I have had to eat several times at LHR, Airside, when my 
> >> >> > > connecting
> >> >> > > flight
> >> >> > > has been significantly delayed.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Get a sandwitch at costa.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > They're reasonably good and stave off the pangs until your airline 
> >> >> > can
> >> >> > deliver you a tepid, plastic but free meal.
> >> >>
> >> >> You don't fly much in Europe then, I take it. You don't get free meals
> >> >> on most European routes in economy any more- some airlines let you pay
> >> >> for one though. Some will serve a small sandwhich for free, and that's
> >> >> about it.
> >> >
> >> > Ryanair's ``Snack Pack`` is legendary,
> >>
> >> Yep sure is.
> >>
> >> That is, it doesn't exist in real life anymore
> >
> > What, since two weeks back today on the Bergamo to Prestwick flight? It
> > certainly wasn't imaginary then. Care to explain?
> 
> Must be special to Prestwick.  Never been offered on a flight
> that I was on.

You don't get `offered` it. You have to `offer` to buy it. And why would it be 
special to Prestwick on a flight from Bergamo?

Jim
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:51:59 +0100, "William Black"
 wrote:

>You know of somewhere that sells a decent cup of coffee for less than £1:50

Does it make it right that others are charging extortionate rates
also? . It is very very seldom I buy anything in cafes or snack bars
etc but on one occasion every two years I do frequent a coffee house
in the town when I need to waist an hour and rather than walk around I
will go and have a coffee and a little something to eat . That one
occasion cropped up again on the day the stupid no smoking ban came in
but I did pop into my usual coffee house even though I could no longer
smoke , when the girl brought my bill for the coffee and a poxy little
slice of carrot cake I nearly had an heart attack .
FIVE POUNDS SIXTY TWO PENCE I said to her hell love you sure you
haven't charged me for what everyone else in here is having also ! in
two years time when I need to have my specks changed again I am going
to the opticians in our village and returning home while I wait .

congokid  wrote:

> In article <1i3tcr7.40jk67rxskbwN%d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk>, "David Horne, 
> _the_ chancellor (*)"  writes
> 
> >I simply don't mind the extra cost of coffee, food, or a drink at an
> >airport. I'm more concerned that I can buy something to eat or drink at
> >the airport, and get a seat to enjoy it in without much difficulty. In
> >_this_ respect, the airports I use most in the UK (Liverpool and
> >Manchester, neither BAA of course) do pretty well.
> 
> I don't mind eating and drinking at the airport either - if I need to
> get up for an early flight I don't want breakfast at 3am. A better time
> to eat is the airside lounge after check in.
> 
> The main factors for me are choice and quality, areas in which the main
> UK airports have improved considerably. I can get a decent meal and a
> good cup of coffee now in most, and if I just want a cheap soft drink,
> water or a sandwich, there's often a Boots, WH Smith or Pret A Manger.

How are LHR and LGW on seating space now? I haven't used them for
several years, but it did seem that they were really mobbed a few years
back, and I could have done with more dining _seats_ than dining areas.

> Compare with other airports, such as Corfu where I was last Monday - 
> horrible barely filled sandwiches and rolls at prices way over the norm
> for the island. I was lucky and my flight got away early. My friends'
> flight was delayed by more than seven hours, but the airline arranged
> for them to be bussed to somewhere decent in town for lunch.
> 
> Prague, Alghero and Palma aren't much better.

Palma and Alghero are not hubs though. Alghero only has a few flights a
day (does it have more than a dozen?) so you'd not expect much there,
surely? Just having been in Alghero, I'll agree with you there's not
much there, but the drinks machines _airside_ only charged 50 cents for
a 500ml bottle of water. I'd just had dinner in town, so the food
available wasn't a big deal.

-- 
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"He cant be as stupid as he looks, but nevertheless he probably 
is quite a stupid man." Richard Dawkins on Pres. Bush"

wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:51:59 +0100, "William Black"
>  wrote:
>
>>You know of somewhere that sells a decent cup of coffee for less than 
>>£1:50
>
> Does it make it right that others are charging extortionate rates
> also? . It is very very seldom I buy anything in cafes or snack bars
> etc but on one occasion every two years I do frequent a coffee house
> in the town when I need to waist an hour and rather than walk around I
> will go and have a coffee and a little something to eat . That one
> occasion cropped up again on the day the stupid no smoking ban came in
> but I did pop into my usual coffee house even though I could no longer
> smoke , when the girl brought my bill for the coffee and a poxy little
> slice of carrot cake I nearly had an heart attack .
> FIVE POUNDS SIXTY TWO PENCE I said to her hell love you sure you
> haven't charged me for what everyone else in here is having also ! in
> two years time when I need to have my specks changed again I am going
> to the opticians in our village and returning home while I wait .

Have you considered living at some date past 1985?

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

Iceman wrote:
> On Sep 2, 10:24 am, "MC"  wrote:
>>  wrote in message
>>
>> news:k9eld31u7ni1bvf6l1pko8estrkecu9llf@4ax.com...
>>
>>> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:13:10 +0100, "William Black"
>>>  wrote:
>>> All outlets where they know they have captive customers
>>> are intent on ripping people of left right and center, going out I
>>> take my own food and drink but forced to pay their rip off charges on
>>> the return journey or die of thirst and starvation .
> 
> 
> I've never seen an airport have extortionate food prices.  

Toronto Pearson. The prices in the catering outlets are more or less 
uniformly outrageous.


-- 

Stephen

Fire bad. Tree pretty.

On 9/2/2007 1:54 PM Stephen Farrow didn't have much to say, yet wrote:

> Iceman wrote:
>> On Sep 2, 10:24 am, "MC"  wrote:
>>>  wrote in message
>>> news:k9eld31u7ni1bvf6l1pko8estrkecu9llf@4ax.com...
>>>
>> I've never seen an airport have extortionate food prices.  
> 
> Toronto Pearson. The prices in the catering outlets are more or less 
> uniformly outrageous.

Ugh.  Not only outrageous, but the quality and selections on offer
are horrid.  Not an airport where I like to have much more than a
minimal layover, preferably minutes rather than hours.
-- 
dgs

On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:53:10 -0700, Iceman 
wrote:
>Give me a break.  So you pay £6.50 for a sandwich, chips and drink
>which would normally cost £4.75.  Big deal.  You spend thousands of
>pounds on a trip, you shouldn't complain about an extra pound or two
>for food at the airport.

Of course he should we all should why stupid people continue to pay
inflated prices they will remain inflated . This is the one fault I
can find with being born and bread in the UK I have found has I have
lived my life that most English people are very loath to complain
about anything or even avoiding some shop or other outlet that is
plainly ripping them off .

On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:43:40 +0100, "William Black"
 wrote:


>Have you considered living at some date past 1985?

What makes you say that I wonder ! are you one of the many people in
this country who thinks nothing of throwing twenty or thirty quid down
your throat on a Friday and Saturday night by any chance.
I was brought up when times for the working class where hard in this
country and every single penny had to be made to count and be
accounted for . I was also told to look after the pennies and the
pounds would look after themselves and doing this has stud me in good
stead for all of my life up to now .
One does not need credit cards, bank loans and the like when you
follow the simple rule of looking after the pennies .
Regarding your question above I would dearly love to turn the clock
back to the late forties and fifties believe me .

In message <fbena4$8fa$1@news.datemas.de>, at 17:11:45 on Sun, 2 Sep 
2007, Stephen Farrow  remarked:
>>>>  It's in Hounslow, which is a long way from the West End. The 
>>>>nearest  "real" High Street is probably in Slough.
>>>
>>> No, Staines, Hounslow or Windsor, probably.
>>  Staines and Hounslow each 5 miles, Slough 8 miles, Windsor 11 miles.
>
>So Slough is not the nearest "real" high street, Staines and Hounslow are.

If they are "real", yes. (I thought honours were fairly even, given that 
the suggested Windsor is so much further away).
-- 
Roland Perry