Background to Sipson (YouTube)

Tales from the Countryside

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc

On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> Tales from the Countryside
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc

An interesting insight.


--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
Travel broadens the damage.

In article , Doug 
says...
> On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> > Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >
> > Tales from the Countryside
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
> 
> An interesting insight.
> 
How does it feel knowing that the spokesperson for Climate Camp flies 
by plane annually?


-- 
Conor

The United States, increasing quality by lowering standards since 1776.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 퍝, SB  wrote:

> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> Tales from the Countryside
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>

"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!

Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning  rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!


-- Fig

SB  wrote:

> Background to Sipson (YouTube)

No it's not, it's the typical emotive clap trap from a bunch of NIMBYs.

> Tales from the Countryside
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc

Drivelling idiot claims he wants to leave because of the pollution.
What's stopping him? His chances of selling were as good as the time
that the film was made as they are now.

Doug  wrote:

> On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> > Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >
> > Tales from the Countryside
> >
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
> >O1psOm7jPnc
> 
> An interesting insight.

Into the (empty) minds of a group of NIMBYs.

On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> Tales from the Countryside
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc

An interesting insight.


--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
Travel broadens the damage.

In article , Doug 
says...
> On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> > Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >
> > Tales from the Countryside
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
> 
> An interesting insight.
> 
How does it feel knowing that the spokesperson for Climate Camp flies 
by plane annually?


-- 
Conor

The United States, increasing quality by lowering standards since 1776.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 퍝, SB  wrote:

> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> Tales from the Countryside
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>

"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!

Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning  rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!


-- Fig

SB  wrote:

> Background to Sipson (YouTube)

No it's not, it's the typical emotive clap trap from a bunch of NIMBYs.

> Tales from the Countryside
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc

Drivelling idiot claims he wants to leave because of the pollution.
What's stopping him? His chances of selling were as good as the time
that the film was made as they are now.

Doug  wrote:

> On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> > Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >
> > Tales from the Countryside
> >
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
> >O1psOm7jPnc
> 
> An interesting insight.

Into the (empty) minds of a group of NIMBYs.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB  wrote:
>
>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>>
>> Tales from the Countryside
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>>
>
>"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>

I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.

*So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.

>Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning  
>rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!

DG

On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> Tales from the Countryside
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc

An interesting insight.


--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
Travel broadens the damage.

In article , Doug 
says...
> On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> > Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >
> > Tales from the Countryside
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
> 
> An interesting insight.
> 
How does it feel knowing that the spokesperson for Climate Camp flies 
by plane annually?


-- 
Conor

The United States, increasing quality by lowering standards since 1776.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 퍝, SB  wrote:

> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> Tales from the Countryside
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>

"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!

Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning  rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!


-- Fig

SB  wrote:

> Background to Sipson (YouTube)

No it's not, it's the typical emotive clap trap from a bunch of NIMBYs.

> Tales from the Countryside
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc

Drivelling idiot claims he wants to leave because of the pollution.
What's stopping him? His chances of selling were as good as the time
that the film was made as they are now.

Doug  wrote:

> On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> > Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >
> > Tales from the Countryside
> >
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
> >O1psOm7jPnc
> 
> An interesting insight.

Into the (empty) minds of a group of NIMBYs.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB  wrote:
>
>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>>
>> Tales from the Countryside
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>>
>
>"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>

I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.

*So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.

>Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning  
>rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!

DG

On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> Tales from the Countryside
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc

An interesting insight.


--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
Travel broadens the damage.

In article , Doug 
says...
> On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> > Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >
> > Tales from the Countryside
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
> 
> An interesting insight.
> 
How does it feel knowing that the spokesperson for Climate Camp flies 
by plane annually?


-- 
Conor

The United States, increasing quality by lowering standards since 1776.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 퍝, SB  wrote:

> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> Tales from the Countryside
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>

"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!

Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning  rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!


-- Fig

SB  wrote:

> Background to Sipson (YouTube)

No it's not, it's the typical emotive clap trap from a bunch of NIMBYs.

> Tales from the Countryside
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc

Drivelling idiot claims he wants to leave because of the pollution.
What's stopping him? His chances of selling were as good as the time
that the film was made as they are now.

Doug  wrote:

> On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> > Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >
> > Tales from the Countryside
> >
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
> >O1psOm7jPnc
> 
> An interesting insight.

Into the (empty) minds of a group of NIMBYs.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB  wrote:
>
>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>>
>> Tales from the Countryside
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>>
>
>"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>

I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.

*So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.

>Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning  
>rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!

DG

On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> Tales from the Countryside
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc

An interesting insight.


--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
Travel broadens the damage.

In article , Doug 
says...
> On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> > Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >
> > Tales from the Countryside
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
> 
> An interesting insight.
> 
How does it feel knowing that the spokesperson for Climate Camp flies 
by plane annually?


-- 
Conor

The United States, increasing quality by lowering standards since 1776.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 퍝, SB  wrote:

> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> Tales from the Countryside
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>

"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!

Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning  rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!


-- Fig

SB  wrote:

> Background to Sipson (YouTube)

No it's not, it's the typical emotive clap trap from a bunch of NIMBYs.

> Tales from the Countryside
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc

Drivelling idiot claims he wants to leave because of the pollution.
What's stopping him? His chances of selling were as good as the time
that the film was made as they are now.

Doug  wrote:

> On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> > Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >
> > Tales from the Countryside
> >
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
> >O1psOm7jPnc
> 
> An interesting insight.

Into the (empty) minds of a group of NIMBYs.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB  wrote:
>
>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>>
>> Tales from the Countryside
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>>
>
>"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>

I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.

*So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.

>Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning  
>rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!

DG

On 14 Aug, 19:26, Derek Geldard  wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:
> >On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB  wrote:
>
> >> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> >> Tales from the Countryside
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>
> >"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>
> I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
> daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
> make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.
>
> *So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
> the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.
>
> >Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning
> >rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!
>
Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.

"Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
smoke points and freeze points.

In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
tractors. The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
kerosene once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical spark.

Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."

So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
kerosene.

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
Travel broadens the damage.

Doug wrote:
> On 14 Aug, 19:26, Derek Geldard  wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB  wrote:
>>>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>>>> Tales from the Countryside
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>>> "The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>> I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
>> daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
>> make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.
>>
>> *So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
>> the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.
>>
>>> Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning
>>> rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!
> Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
> suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.
> 
> "Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
> technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
> One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
> rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
> smoke points and freeze points.
> 
> In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
> tractors. The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
> kerosene once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
> would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
> kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical spark.
> 
> Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
> gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."
> 
> So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
> kerosene.
> 
> --
> UK Radical Campaigns
> www.zing.icom43.net
> Travel broadens the damage.
> 
> 
> 
> 
You do talk some cock.

No-one is talking about starting up tractors in the early 20th century, 
nor are they talking about using kerosene as an additive to another type 
of fuel, apart from you. Do you really think that the "dreamliner" will 
fly better if you start putting diesel in its fuel tanks? As for 
bringing RP-1 into this - how many civil aircraft are rocket powered?

If you think that the smell of kerosene and diesel are similar, then the 
demise of your faculties is much further advanced than you may realize.

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!

On 15 Aug, 08:32, ®i©ardo  wrote:
> Doug wrote:
> > On 14 Aug, 19:26, Derek Geldard  wrote:
> >> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 퍝, Fig  wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 퍝, SB  wrote:
> >>>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >>>> Tales from the Countryside
> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
> >>> "The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
> >> I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
> >> daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
> >> make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.
>
> >> *So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
> >> the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.
>
> >>> Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning
> >>> rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!
> > Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
> > suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.
>
> > "Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
> > technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
> > One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
> > rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
> > smoke points and freeze points.
>
> > In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
> > tractors. The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
> > kerosene once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
> > would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
> > kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical spark.
>
> > Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
> > gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."
>
> > So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
> > kerosene.
>
> > --
> > UK Radical Campaigns
> >www.zing.icom43.net
> > Travel broadens the damage.
>
> You do talk some cock.
>
> No-one is talking about starting up tractors in the early 20th century,
> nor are they talking about using kerosene as an additive to another type
> of fuel, apart from you. Do you really think that the "dreamliner" will
> fly better if you start putting diesel in its fuel tanks? As for
> bringing RP-1 into this - how many civil aircraft are rocket powered?
>
> If you think that the smell of kerosene and diesel are similar, then the
> demise of your faculties is much further advanced than you may realize.
>
Idiot! It is obvious that the people in the video are referring to
aviation fuel whatever they like to call it. The whole are stinks of
it and the noise is terrible. So stop your silly nitpicking.

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
Travel broadens the damage.

On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> Tales from the Countryside
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc

An interesting insight.


--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
Travel broadens the damage.

In article , Doug 
says...
> On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> > Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >
> > Tales from the Countryside
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
> 
> An interesting insight.
> 
How does it feel knowing that the spokesperson for Climate Camp flies 
by plane annually?


-- 
Conor

The United States, increasing quality by lowering standards since 1776.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 퍝, SB  wrote:

> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> Tales from the Countryside
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>

"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!

Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning  rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!


-- Fig

SB  wrote:

> Background to Sipson (YouTube)

No it's not, it's the typical emotive clap trap from a bunch of NIMBYs.

> Tales from the Countryside
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc

Drivelling idiot claims he wants to leave because of the pollution.
What's stopping him? His chances of selling were as good as the time
that the film was made as they are now.

Doug  wrote:

> On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> > Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >
> > Tales from the Countryside
> >
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
> >O1psOm7jPnc
> 
> An interesting insight.

Into the (empty) minds of a group of NIMBYs.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB  wrote:
>
>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>>
>> Tales from the Countryside
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>>
>
>"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>

I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.

*So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.

>Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning  
>rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!

DG

On 14 Aug, 19:26, Derek Geldard  wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:
> >On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB  wrote:
>
> >> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> >> Tales from the Countryside
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>
> >"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>
> I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
> daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
> make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.
>
> *So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
> the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.
>
> >Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning
> >rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!
>
Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.

"Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
smoke points and freeze points.

In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
tractors. The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
kerosene once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical spark.

Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."

So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
kerosene.

--
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Travel broadens the damage.

Doug wrote:
> On 14 Aug, 19:26, Derek Geldard  wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB  wrote:
>>>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>>>> Tales from the Countryside
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>>> "The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>> I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
>> daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
>> make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.
>>
>> *So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
>> the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.
>>
>>> Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning
>>> rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!
> Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
> suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.
> 
> "Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
> technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
> One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
> rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
> smoke points and freeze points.
> 
> In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
> tractors. The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
> kerosene once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
> would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
> kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical spark.
> 
> Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
> gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."
> 
> So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
> kerosene.
> 
> --
> UK Radical Campaigns
> www.zing.icom43.net
> Travel broadens the damage.
> 
> 
> 
> 
You do talk some cock.

No-one is talking about starting up tractors in the early 20th century, 
nor are they talking about using kerosene as an additive to another type 
of fuel, apart from you. Do you really think that the "dreamliner" will 
fly better if you start putting diesel in its fuel tanks? As for 
bringing RP-1 into this - how many civil aircraft are rocket powered?

If you think that the smell of kerosene and diesel are similar, then the 
demise of your faculties is much further advanced than you may realize.

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!

On 15 Aug, 08:32, ®i©ardo  wrote:
> Doug wrote:
> > On 14 Aug, 19:26, Derek Geldard  wrote:
> >> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 퍝, Fig  wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 퍝, SB  wrote:
> >>>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >>>> Tales from the Countryside
> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
> >>> "The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
> >> I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
> >> daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
> >> make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.
>
> >> *So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
> >> the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.
>
> >>> Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning
> >>> rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!
> > Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
> > suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.
>
> > "Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
> > technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
> > One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
> > rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
> > smoke points and freeze points.
>
> > In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
> > tractors. The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
> > kerosene once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
> > would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
> > kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical spark.
>
> > Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
> > gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."
>
> > So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
> > kerosene.
>
> > --
> > UK Radical Campaigns
> >www.zing.icom43.net
> > Travel broadens the damage.
>
> You do talk some cock.
>
> No-one is talking about starting up tractors in the early 20th century,
> nor are they talking about using kerosene as an additive to another type
> of fuel, apart from you. Do you really think that the "dreamliner" will
> fly better if you start putting diesel in its fuel tanks? As for
> bringing RP-1 into this - how many civil aircraft are rocket powered?
>
> If you think that the smell of kerosene and diesel are similar, then the
> demise of your faculties is much further advanced than you may realize.
>
Idiot! It is obvious that the people in the video are referring to
aviation fuel whatever they like to call it. The whole are stinks of
it and the noise is terrible. So stop your silly nitpicking.

--
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Travel broadens the damage.

Doug wrote:
> On 15 Aug, 08:32, ®i©ardo  wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> On 14 Aug, 19:26, Derek Geldard  wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB  wrote:
>>>>>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>>>>>> Tales from the Countryside
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>>>>> "The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>>>> I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
>>>> daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
>>>> make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.
>>>> *So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
>>>> the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.
>>>>> Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning
>>>>> rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!
>>> Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
>>> suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.
>>> "Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
>>> technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
>>> One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
>>> rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
>>> smoke points and freeze points.
>>> In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
>>> tractors. The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
>>> kerosene once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
>>> would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
>>> kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical spark.
>>> Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
>>> gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."
>>> So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
>>> kerosene.
>>> --
>>> UK Radical Campaigns
>>> www.zing.icom43.net
>>> Travel broadens the damage.
>> You do talk some cock.
>>
>> No-one is talking about starting up tractors in the early 20th century,
>> nor are they talking about using kerosene as an additive to another type
>> of fuel, apart from you. Do you really think that the "dreamliner" will
>> fly better if you start putting diesel in its fuel tanks? As for
>> bringing RP-1 into this - how many civil aircraft are rocket powered?
>>
>> If you think that the smell of kerosene and diesel are similar, then the
>> demise of your faculties is much further advanced than you may realize.
>>
> Idiot! It is obvious that the people in the video are referring to
> aviation fuel whatever they like to call it. The whole are stinks of
> it and the noise is terrible. So stop your silly nitpicking.
> 
> --
> UK Radical Campaigns
> www.zing.icom43.net
> Travel broadens the damage.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
So why all your silly plagiarized bullshit about diesel then? You really 
are a tosser, and a nitpicking one to boot. Are you suggesting that the 
participants in the video sequence are deliberately calling kerosene 
diesel just to enhance their intellectual status, or are they trying to 
highlight their own stupidity?

You're as daft as a brush and as dumb as a box of bricks (I think it was 
bricks).

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:15:09 -0700, Doug  wrote:


>> >"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>>
>> I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
>> daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
>> make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.
>>
>> *So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
>> the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.
>>
>> >Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning
>> >rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!
>>
>Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
>suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.
>
>"Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
>technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
>One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
>rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
>smoke points and freeze points.

You still say they all smell like Diesel. (sic) ITYM Derv.

>
>In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
>tractors. 

ITYM T.V.O. Tractor vapourising oil.

>The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
>kerosene 

T.V.O. Tractor vapourising oil.

>once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
>would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
>kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical spark.

Gettaway !

Got this from "The Labybird Book of Tractors" did you?

Done it myself in 1964 running a Wall's Whippy Ice Cream van as a
student, The generator that ran the fridges was run off T.V.O.

Where did you gain your experience?

>
>Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
>gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."

But the jet planes aren't using Diesel. and those "Hooray-Henry" types
on the Harmondsworth video with their own hobby stud farm replete with
*DIESEL* tractor, and twee pub didn't look to me as if they'd spent a
lot of time lighting fires under the fuel tanks of diesel lorries to
keep the food moving to the people. 

So that is of no relevance .

>
>So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
>kerosene.

A non-sequitur.

Only if you are a daft old fukwit.

DG

Derek Geldard wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:15:09 -0700, Doug  wrote:

>> So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
>> kerosene.
>
> A non-sequitur.
>
> Only if you are a daft old fukwit.

And Doug is?

Doug  wrote:

> Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
> suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.
> 
> "Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
> technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
> One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
> rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
> smoke points and freeze points.
> 
> In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
> tractors. The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
> kerosene once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
> would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
> kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical spark.
> 
> Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
> gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."

Mmm hmm, you have cut and pasted some information, grasshopper.

> So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
> kerosene.

But it has no relationship to that statement.

Doug wrote:
> On 15 Aug, 08:32, ®i©ardo  wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> On 14 Aug, 19:26, Derek Geldard  wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>>>>>> Tales from the Countryside
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>>>>> "The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>>>> I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even
>>>> the daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon
>>>> mistake to make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run
>>>> on diesel.
>>
>>>> *So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't
>>>> know the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet
>>>> fuel.
>>
>>>>> Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell
>>>>> of burning rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!
>>> Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
>>> suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.
>>
>>> "Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
>>> technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
>>> One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
>>> rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
>>> smoke points and freeze points.
>>
>>> In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
>>> tractors. The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
>>> kerosene once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
>>> would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
>>> kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical
>>> spark.
>>
>>> Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
>>> gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."
>>
>>> So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
>>> kerosene.
>>
>>> --
>>> UK Radical Campaigns
>>> www.zing.icom43.net
>>> Travel broadens the damage.
>>
>> You do talk some cock.
>>
>> No-one is talking about starting up tractors in the early 20th
>> century, nor are they talking about using kerosene as an additive to
>> another type of fuel, apart from you. Do you really think that the
>> "dreamliner" will fly better if you start putting diesel in its fuel
>> tanks? As for bringing RP-1 into this - how many civil aircraft are
>> rocket powered?
>>
>> If you think that the smell of kerosene and diesel are similar, then
>> the demise of your faculties is much further advanced than you may
>> realize.
>>
> Idiot! It is obvious that the people in the video are referring to
> aviation fuel whatever they like to call it. The whole are stinks of
> it and the noise is terrible.

Errr, no it doesn't - his farm might smell of diesel, due to his 
agricultural machinery.

My aunt lives in Wraysbury, directly under the LHR flightpath, I spend most 
weekends there fishing and have never noticed any smell of Avgas.

Plus - I've got a good sense of smell - hence being able to sniff out your 
bullshit at 300 miles.

-- 
Cheerz - Brownz
http://www.brownz.org/

Doug  wrote:

>  The whole are stinks of
> it and the noise is terrible.

What are the smell of a noise? Or indeed the noise of a smell.

On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> Tales from the Countryside
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc

An interesting insight.


--
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Travel broadens the damage.

In article , Doug 
says...
> On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> > Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >
> > Tales from the Countryside
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
> 
> An interesting insight.
> 
How does it feel knowing that the spokesperson for Climate Camp flies 
by plane annually?


-- 
Conor

The United States, increasing quality by lowering standards since 1776.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 퍝, SB  wrote:

> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> Tales from the Countryside
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>

"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!

Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning  rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!


-- Fig

SB  wrote:

> Background to Sipson (YouTube)

No it's not, it's the typical emotive clap trap from a bunch of NIMBYs.

> Tales from the Countryside
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc

Drivelling idiot claims he wants to leave because of the pollution.
What's stopping him? His chances of selling were as good as the time
that the film was made as they are now.

Doug  wrote:

> On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> > Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >
> > Tales from the Countryside
> >
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
> >O1psOm7jPnc
> 
> An interesting insight.

Into the (empty) minds of a group of NIMBYs.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB  wrote:
>
>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>>
>> Tales from the Countryside
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>>
>
>"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>

I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.

*So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.

>Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning  
>rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!

DG

On 14 Aug, 19:26, Derek Geldard  wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:
> >On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB  wrote:
>
> >> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> >> Tales from the Countryside
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>
> >"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>
> I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
> daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
> make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.
>
> *So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
> the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.
>
> >Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning
> >rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!
>
Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.

"Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
smoke points and freeze points.

In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
tractors. The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
kerosene once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical spark.

Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."

So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
kerosene.

--
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www.zing.icom43.net
Travel broadens the damage.

Doug wrote:
> On 14 Aug, 19:26, Derek Geldard  wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB  wrote:
>>>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>>>> Tales from the Countryside
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>>> "The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>> I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
>> daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
>> make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.
>>
>> *So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
>> the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.
>>
>>> Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning
>>> rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!
> Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
> suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.
> 
> "Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
> technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
> One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
> rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
> smoke points and freeze points.
> 
> In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
> tractors. The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
> kerosene once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
> would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
> kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical spark.
> 
> Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
> gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."
> 
> So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
> kerosene.
> 
> --
> UK Radical Campaigns
> www.zing.icom43.net
> Travel broadens the damage.
> 
> 
> 
> 
You do talk some cock.

No-one is talking about starting up tractors in the early 20th century, 
nor are they talking about using kerosene as an additive to another type 
of fuel, apart from you. Do you really think that the "dreamliner" will 
fly better if you start putting diesel in its fuel tanks? As for 
bringing RP-1 into this - how many civil aircraft are rocket powered?

If you think that the smell of kerosene and diesel are similar, then the 
demise of your faculties is much further advanced than you may realize.

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!

On 15 Aug, 08:32, ®i©ardo  wrote:
> Doug wrote:
> > On 14 Aug, 19:26, Derek Geldard  wrote:
> >> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 퍝, Fig  wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 퍝, SB  wrote:
> >>>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >>>> Tales from the Countryside
> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
> >>> "The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
> >> I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
> >> daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
> >> make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.
>
> >> *So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
> >> the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.
>
> >>> Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning
> >>> rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!
> > Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
> > suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.
>
> > "Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
> > technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
> > One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
> > rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
> > smoke points and freeze points.
>
> > In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
> > tractors. The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
> > kerosene once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
> > would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
> > kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical spark.
>
> > Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
> > gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."
>
> > So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
> > kerosene.
>
> > --
> > UK Radical Campaigns
> >www.zing.icom43.net
> > Travel broadens the damage.
>
> You do talk some cock.
>
> No-one is talking about starting up tractors in the early 20th century,
> nor are they talking about using kerosene as an additive to another type
> of fuel, apart from you. Do you really think that the "dreamliner" will
> fly better if you start putting diesel in its fuel tanks? As for
> bringing RP-1 into this - how many civil aircraft are rocket powered?
>
> If you think that the smell of kerosene and diesel are similar, then the
> demise of your faculties is much further advanced than you may realize.
>
Idiot! It is obvious that the people in the video are referring to
aviation fuel whatever they like to call it. The whole are stinks of
it and the noise is terrible. So stop your silly nitpicking.

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Doug wrote:
> On 15 Aug, 08:32, ®i©ardo  wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> On 14 Aug, 19:26, Derek Geldard  wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB  wrote:
>>>>>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>>>>>> Tales from the Countryside
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>>>>> "The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>>>> I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
>>>> daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
>>>> make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.
>>>> *So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
>>>> the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.
>>>>> Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning
>>>>> rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!
>>> Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
>>> suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.
>>> "Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
>>> technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
>>> One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
>>> rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
>>> smoke points and freeze points.
>>> In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
>>> tractors. The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
>>> kerosene once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
>>> would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
>>> kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical spark.
>>> Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
>>> gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."
>>> So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
>>> kerosene.
>>> --
>>> UK Radical Campaigns
>>> www.zing.icom43.net
>>> Travel broadens the damage.
>> You do talk some cock.
>>
>> No-one is talking about starting up tractors in the early 20th century,
>> nor are they talking about using kerosene as an additive to another type
>> of fuel, apart from you. Do you really think that the "dreamliner" will
>> fly better if you start putting diesel in its fuel tanks? As for
>> bringing RP-1 into this - how many civil aircraft are rocket powered?
>>
>> If you think that the smell of kerosene and diesel are similar, then the
>> demise of your faculties is much further advanced than you may realize.
>>
> Idiot! It is obvious that the people in the video are referring to
> aviation fuel whatever they like to call it. The whole are stinks of
> it and the noise is terrible. So stop your silly nitpicking.
> 
> --
> UK Radical Campaigns
> www.zing.icom43.net
> Travel broadens the damage.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
So why all your silly plagiarized bullshit about diesel then? You really 
are a tosser, and a nitpicking one to boot. Are you suggesting that the 
participants in the video sequence are deliberately calling kerosene 
diesel just to enhance their intellectual status, or are they trying to 
highlight their own stupidity?

You're as daft as a brush and as dumb as a box of bricks (I think it was 
bricks).

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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:15:09 -0700, Doug  wrote:


>> >"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>>
>> I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
>> daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
>> make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.
>>
>> *So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
>> the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.
>>
>> >Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning
>> >rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!
>>
>Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
>suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.
>
>"Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
>technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
>One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
>rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
>smoke points and freeze points.

You still say they all smell like Diesel. (sic) ITYM Derv.

>
>In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
>tractors. 

ITYM T.V.O. Tractor vapourising oil.

>The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
>kerosene 

T.V.O. Tractor vapourising oil.

>once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
>would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
>kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical spark.

Gettaway !

Got this from "The Labybird Book of Tractors" did you?

Done it myself in 1964 running a Wall's Whippy Ice Cream van as a
student, The generator that ran the fridges was run off T.V.O.

Where did you gain your experience?

>
>Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
>gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."

But the jet planes aren't using Diesel. and those "Hooray-Henry" types
on the Harmondsworth video with their own hobby stud farm replete with
*DIESEL* tractor, and twee pub didn't look to me as if they'd spent a
lot of time lighting fires under the fuel tanks of diesel lorries to
keep the food moving to the people. 

So that is of no relevance .

>
>So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
>kerosene.

A non-sequitur.

Only if you are a daft old fukwit.

DG

Derek Geldard wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:15:09 -0700, Doug  wrote:

>> So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
>> kerosene.
>
> A non-sequitur.
>
> Only if you are a daft old fukwit.

And Doug is?

Doug  wrote:

> Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
> suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.
> 
> "Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
> technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
> One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
> rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
> smoke points and freeze points.
> 
> In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
> tractors. The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
> kerosene once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
> would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
> kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical spark.
> 
> Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
> gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."

Mmm hmm, you have cut and pasted some information, grasshopper.

> So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
> kerosene.

But it has no relationship to that statement.

Doug wrote:
> On 15 Aug, 08:32, ®i©ardo  wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> On 14 Aug, 19:26, Derek Geldard  wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>>>>>> Tales from the Countryside
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>>>>> "The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>>>> I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even
>>>> the daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon
>>>> mistake to make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run
>>>> on diesel.
>>
>>>> *So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't
>>>> know the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet
>>>> fuel.
>>
>>>>> Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell
>>>>> of burning rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!
>>> Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
>>> suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.
>>
>>> "Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
>>> technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
>>> One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
>>> rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
>>> smoke points and freeze points.
>>
>>> In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
>>> tractors. The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
>>> kerosene once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
>>> would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
>>> kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical
>>> spark.
>>
>>> Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
>>> gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."
>>
>>> So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
>>> kerosene.
>>
>>> --
>>> UK Radical Campaigns
>>> www.zing.icom43.net
>>> Travel broadens the damage.
>>
>> You do talk some cock.
>>
>> No-one is talking about starting up tractors in the early 20th
>> century, nor are they talking about using kerosene as an additive to
>> another type of fuel, apart from you. Do you really think that the
>> "dreamliner" will fly better if you start putting diesel in its fuel
>> tanks? As for bringing RP-1 into this - how many civil aircraft are
>> rocket powered?
>>
>> If you think that the smell of kerosene and diesel are similar, then
>> the demise of your faculties is much further advanced than you may
>> realize.
>>
> Idiot! It is obvious that the people in the video are referring to
> aviation fuel whatever they like to call it. The whole are stinks of
> it and the noise is terrible.

Errr, no it doesn't - his farm might smell of diesel, due to his 
agricultural machinery.

My aunt lives in Wraysbury, directly under the LHR flightpath, I spend most 
weekends there fishing and have never noticed any smell of Avgas.

Plus - I've got a good sense of smell - hence being able to sniff out your 
bullshit at 300 miles.

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http://www.brownz.org/

Doug  wrote:

>  The whole are stinks of
> it and the noise is terrible.

What are the smell of a noise? Or indeed the noise of a smell.

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:15:09 -0700, Doug  wrote:


>Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
>suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.

We all contribute to the problem.

Do you undertake to stop your conversion of oxygen (and glucose) into
carbon dioxide (and water)?

On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> Tales from the Countryside
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc

An interesting insight.


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In article , Doug 
says...
> On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> > Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >
> > Tales from the Countryside
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
> 
> An interesting insight.
> 
How does it feel knowing that the spokesperson for Climate Camp flies 
by plane annually?


-- 
Conor

The United States, increasing quality by lowering standards since 1776.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 퍝, SB  wrote:

> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> Tales from the Countryside
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>

"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!

Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning  rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!


-- Fig

SB  wrote:

> Background to Sipson (YouTube)

No it's not, it's the typical emotive clap trap from a bunch of NIMBYs.

> Tales from the Countryside
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc

Drivelling idiot claims he wants to leave because of the pollution.
What's stopping him? His chances of selling were as good as the time
that the film was made as they are now.

Doug  wrote:

> On 14 Aug, 10:07, SB  wrote:
> > Background to Sipson (YouTube)
> >
> > Tales from the Countryside
> >
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Qhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
> >O1psOm7jPnc
> 
> An interesting insight.

Into the (empty) minds of a group of NIMBYs.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB  wrote:
>
>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>>
>> Tales from the Countryside
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>>
>
>"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>

I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.

*So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.

>Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning  
>rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!

DG

On 14 Aug, 19:26, Derek Geldard  wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:
> >On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB  wrote:
>
> >> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>
> >> Tales from the Countryside
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>
> >"The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>
> I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
> daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
> make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.
>
> *So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
> the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.
>
> >Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning
> >rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!
>
Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.

"Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
rocket fuel. These fuel grade kerosenes meet specifications as to
smoke points and freeze points.

In the early 20th century, kerosene was used as a cheap fuel for
tractors. The engine would start on gasoline, then switch over to
kerosene once the engine warmed up. A "heat valve" on the manifold
would route the exhaust gases around the intake pipe, heating the
kerosene to the point where it can be ignited by an electrical spark.

Kerosene is sometimes used as an additive in diesel fuel to prevent
gelling or waxing in cold temperatures."

So it is easy enough to confuse the smell of diesel with that of
kerosene.

--
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www.zing.icom43.net
Travel broadens the damage.

Doug wrote:
> On 14 Aug, 19:26, Derek Geldard  wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:25:29 +0100, Fig  wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:36 +0100, SB  wrote:
>>>> Background to Sipson (YouTube)
>>>> Tales from the Countryside
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6FeHRxA4Q
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psOm7jPnc
>>> "The smell and taste of diesel" !?!
>> I noticed that too. The fact is not one of them got it right even the
>> daft old buffer driving a diesel tractor. It is an uncommon mistake to
>> make most schoolkids know that jet airliners don't run on diesel.
>>
>> *So it must have been scripted* for them by a fukwit who didn't know
>> the difference between diesel and the various grades of jet fuel.
>>
>>> Having worked in and around Heathrow previously, it's the smell of burning
>>> rubber from aircraft tyres you notice most. Idiot!
> Typical semantics from a bunch of hypocrite polluters who do not
> suffer from the excess of Heathrow but contribute to the problem.
> 
> "Today, kerosene is mainly used in fuel for jet engines (more
> technically Avtur, Jet-A, Jet-A1, Jet-B, JP-4, JP-5, JP-7 or JP-8).
> One form of the fuel known as RP-1 is burned with liquid oxygen as
> rocket fuel