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date: 25 Sep 2008 08:54:50 GMT,    group: uk.transport        back       
Re: Metric martyr takes on parking wardens over 'stealth tax' tickets in landmark legal case   
Doug wrote:

> Ooooh! A motorist campaigner with a campaign! This will leave the
> motorists who dominate this transport newsgroup in a bit of a dilemma

Will it?  I, as a motorist doubt it.  I know it won't leave 'the
motorists' in a dilemma 'cos I am a motorist and I'm not in a dilemma.
How do you know?

> cos they hate campaigners and campaigns, if their previous posts are
> anything to go by.
> 
> What does he expect, motorists be allowed to park on public roads for
> free?

That's an unsupported claim which isn't made in the article or by the
chap in question.

Personally I find the best way to avoid parking fines is to not park
illegally.

If this chap, however, has found that some parking areas and council
officials are indeed acting illegally then whilst I agree he should be
allowed to protest about it I have no compunction to join in his
protest, and certainly won't worry or get in a dilemma about it..

-- 
Paul - xxx

'96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi 'Big and Butch'
Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp "When I feel fit enough'
ebay stuff   http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/paul-xxx
date: 25 Sep 2008 08:54:50 GMT   author:   Paul - xxx

Re: Metric martyr takes on parking wardens over 'stealth tax' tickets in landmark legal case   
Doug wrote:
> On 25 Sep, 09:54, "Paul - xxx"  wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> Ooooh! A motorist campaigner with a campaign! This will leave the
>>> motorists who dominate this transport newsgroup in a bit of a dilemma
>> Will it?  I, as a motorist doubt it.  I know it won't leave 'the
>> motorists' in a dilemma 'cos I am a motorist and I'm not in a dilemma.
>> How do you know?
>>
>>> cos they hate campaigners and campaigns, if their previous posts are
>>> anything to go by.
>>> What does he expect, motorists be allowed to park on public roads for
>>> free?
>> That's an unsupported claim which isn't made in the article or by the
>> chap in question.
>>
>> Personally I find the best way to avoid parking fines is to not park
>> illegally.
>>
>> If this chap, however, has found that some parking areas and council
>> officials are indeed acting illegally then whilst I agree he should be
>> allowed to protest about it I have no compunction to join in his
>> protest, and certainly won't worry or get in a dilemma about it..
>>
> Ah yes but the motorists here who complain about campaigners never get
> off their arses themselves to actually do anything. They just expect
> to have the right to drive regardless and whinge when they don't get
> it.
> 
> --
> World Carfree Network
> http://www.worldcarfree.net/
> Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.
> 
As usual total bollocks from you.

-- 
Tony the Dragon
date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:04:14 +0100   author:   Tony Dragon

Re: Metric martyr takes on parking wardens over 'stealth tax' tickets in landmark legal case   
Doug wrote:

> On 25 Sep, 09:54, "Paul - xxx"  wrote:

> > If this chap, however, has found that some parking areas and council
> > officials are indeed acting illegally then whilst I agree he should
> > be allowed to protest about it I have no compunction to join in his
> > protest, and certainly won't worry or get in a dilemma about it..
> > 
> Ah yes but the motorists here who complain about campaigners never get
> off their arses themselves to actually do anything. They just expect
> to have the right to drive regardless and whinge when they don't get
> it.

Heheheh, you're a fuckwit and no mistake.  I'm a motorist 'here' and I
get off my arse and complain, go on demonstrations [1] etc ... but only
when it's for something I believe in.  What proof have you that others
don't also?

I'm an ex-miner from way before 1984 and do know a little of what goes
on at demonstrations and protests, Indeed I'm now in Unison and
recently joined the 2 day strike [2] for better pay.

[1] Like Pro-Hunting ... ;)
[2] Waste of time in my opinion, but I'm a member of the union and
stood by the strike mandate on principle.


-- 
Paul - xxx

'96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi 'Big and Butch'
Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp "When I feel fit enough'
ebay stuff   http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/paul-xxx
date: 26 Sep 2008 08:58:02 GMT   author:   Paul - xxx

Re: Metric martyr takes on parking wardens over 'stealth tax' tickets in landmark legal case   
BrianW wrote:

> On 26 Sep, 09:58, "Paul - xxx"  wrote:
> > Doug wrote:
> > > On 25 Sep, 09:54, "Paul - xxx"  wrote:
> > > > If this chap, however, has found that some parking areas and
> > > > council officials are indeed acting illegally then whilst I
> > > > agree he should be allowed to protest about it I have no
> > > > compunction to join in his protest, and certainly won't worry
> > > > or get in a dilemma about it..
> > 
> > > Ah yes but the motorists here who complain about campaigners
> > > never get off their arses themselves to actually do anything.
> > > They just expect to have the right to drive regardless and whinge
> > > when they don't get it.
> > 
> > Heheheh, you're a fuckwit and no mistake.  I'm a motorist 'here'
> > and I get off my arse and complain, go on demonstrations [1]
> > [1] Like Pro-Hunting ... ;)
> 
> Haha, Gollum's pointy little head will start spinning - motorist, bad,
> but goes on demonstrations, good, but in favour of hunting bad.

He might also dislike knowing that I drive, race and compete in RTV
trials a 4x4 ... and am proud of it.  ;)

-- 
Paul - xxx  somewhere different ...
'96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi
Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp
ebay stuff   http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/paul-xxx
date: 26 Sep 2008 10:22:46 GMT   author:   Paul - xxx

Re: Metric martyr takes on parking wardens over 'stealth tax' tickets in landmark legal case   
In article <76411ddd-e240-4851-8b9b-6fbaa84ebc00
@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...

> Ah yes but the motorists here who complain about campaigners never get
> off their arses themselves to actually do anything.

If they're complaining about the campaigners, they don't support the 
fucking cause do they?


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams
date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:27:09 +0100   author:   Conor

Re: Metric martyr takes on parking wardens over 'stealth tax' tickets in landmark legal case   
Conor wrote:

> In article <76411ddd-e240-4851-8b9b-6fbaa84ebc00
> @e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
> 
> > Ah yes but the motorists here who complain about campaigners never
> > get off their arses themselves to actually do anything.
> 
> If they're complaining about the campaigners, they don't support the 
> fucking cause do they?

That'll be a Whooosh for DB then ... ;)

-- 
Paul - xxx  somewhere different ...
'96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi
Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp
ebay stuff   http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/paul-xxx
date: 26 Sep 2008 19:48:39 GMT   author:   Paul - xxx

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