It doesn't surprise me one bit.

"· People in busy roads more likely to be ill, says study
· Lack of traffic promotes sense of community

Mrs A lives in Dovercourt Road in north Bristol and considers five
people on her street as friends. But Mrs B, who is roughly the same
age and lives round the corner in a very similar house in Muller
Street, has only one friend.

The difference, says a study, has nothing to do with personality, but
is because of the weight of traffic. Fewer than 150 vehicles a day
pass down Dovercourt Road, compared with more than 21,130 a day on
Muller Street.

New research, based on interviews with households on three Bristol
streets, has found that people who live with high levels of motor
traffic are far more likely to be socially disconnected and even ill
than people who live in quiet, clean streets..."

"..."Growing car dependence is creating an epidemic of deteriorated
mental and physical health associated with air and noise pollution,
inactivity and road deaths and injuries."

More:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/19/ethicalliving.automotive

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"Doug"  wrote in message 
news:74337eab-8c8b-40a9-bc1d-1f7582acc823@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
It doesn't surprise me one bit.

"· People in busy roads more likely to be ill, says study
· Lack of traffic promotes sense of community


----

Oh look, 3 _new_ threads in just over 10 minutes, and not even all on topic.

How about some follow-up to all the bilge you started yesterday, including 
responding to the feedback to your own point of 'something should be done 
about texting while driving'? You seem to have gone all quiet when it was 
pointed out that something has been done.

On Sep 19, 7:35 am, Doug  wrote:
> It doesn't surprise me one bit.

busy street you live in is it?

Fod

"Fod"  wrote in message 
news:7b26be50-06f3-4953-9e0d-2de2ab1e95a8@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 19, 7:35 am, Doug  wrote:
> It doesn't surprise me one bit.

busy street you live in is it?

Poor Steve Gizmo firth - going by his list of friends he must live on the 
dividing strip on the M25 :)

On 19 Sep, 15:34, "Tommy"  wrote:
> "Fod"  wrote in message
>
> news:7b26be50-06f3-4953-9e0d-2de2ab1e95a8@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 19, 7:35 am, Doug  wrote:
>
> > It doesn't surprise me one bit.
>
> busy street you live in is it?
>
> Poor Steve Gizmo firth - going by his list of friends he must live on the
> dividing strip on the M25 :)

Who is Steve-Gizmo-firth?
Are you saying they are the same, if so please post proof.

Francis

Oh Franky?

accessing  these NGs via  berlin and prophesing a "real" e-mail address?

Now Iwonder who you are in real life

LOL



"francis"  wrote in message 
news:e74329ea-43c5-4f20-8fcc-d97c10043bd0@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On 19 Sep, 15:34, "Tommy"  wrote:
>> "Fod"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:7b26be50-06f3-4953-9e0d-2de2ab1e95a8@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>> On Sep 19, 7:35 am, Doug  wrote:
>>
>> > It doesn't surprise me one bit.
>>
>> busy street you live in is it?
>>
>> Poor Steve Gizmo firth - going by his list of friends he must live on the
>> dividing strip on the M25 :)
>
> Who is Steve-Gizmo-firth?
> Are you saying they are the same, if so please post proof.
>
> Francis

On Sep 19, 3:47 pm, "Tommy"  wrote:
> Oh Franky?
>
> accessing  these NGs via  berlin and prophesing a "real" e-mail address?
>
> Now Iwonder who you are in real life
>
> LOL
>
> "francis"  wrote in message
>
> news:e74329ea-43c5-4f20-8fcc-d97c10043bd0@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On 19 Sep, 15:34, "Tommy"  wrote:
> >> "Fod"  wrote in message
>
> >>news:7b26be50-06f3-4953-9e0d-2de2ab1e95a8@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com.> >> On Sep 19, 7:35 am, Doug  wrote:
>
> >> > It doesn't surprise me one bit.
>
> >> busy street you live in is it?
>
> >> Poor Steve Gizmo firth - going by his list of friends he must live on the
> >> dividing strip on the M25 :)
>
> > Who is Steve-Gizmo-firth?
> > Are you saying they are the same, if so please post proof.
>
> > Francis

Oh dear more like.  Another day of posts that make little sense that
reply to the wrong people.  There isn't much point asking you for
evidence for your Steve Firth conspiracy is there?  You'll just
pretend to have posted it or go quiet.

I'll let you get back to pretending to provide the output for radio
2...

Fod

Fod  wrote:

> Oh dear more like.  Another day of posts that make little sense that
> reply to the wrong people.  There isn't much point asking you for
> evidence for your Steve Firth conspiracy is there?  You'll just
> pretend to have posted it or go quiet.

I'm wondering where he claims to have got this "list of friends" from. I
suppose it will be another round of silence from Toomy in that respect
as well.

Tommy wrote:
> "Fod"  wrote in message
> news:7b26be50-06f3-4953-9e0d-2de2ab1e95a8@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 19, 7:35 am, Doug  wrote:
>> It doesn't surprise me one bit.
>
> busy street you live in is it?
>
> Poor Steve Gizmo firth - going by his list of friends he must live on
> the dividing strip on the M25 :)

Hah, what are you babbling on about now Toomtard?

Mike P

Steve Firth wrote:
> Fod  wrote:
>
>> Oh dear more like.  Another day of posts that make little sense that
>> reply to the wrong people.  There isn't much point asking you for
>> evidence for your Steve Firth conspiracy is there?  You'll just
>> pretend to have posted it or go quiet.
>
> I'm wondering where he claims to have got this "list of friends"
> from. I suppose it will be another round of silence from Toomy in
> that respect as well.

I should start posting as Mike P from the three VM machines I've got running 
on this Windows box using different IPs, that would confuse him even more.

Which friends list is he on about anyway?

Mike P

Mike P  wrote:

> Which friends list is he on about anyway?

Ghod knows, trying to make sense of ToomyPosts is something ICBA to do.

He scrawled "Poor Steve Gizmo firth - going by his list of friends he
must live on the dividing strip on the M25 :)"

So presumably he's claiming to have seen a list of my friends,
somewhere.

Tommy wrote:

> 
> 
> "francis"  wrote in message 
> news:e74329ea-43c5-4f20-8fcc-d97c10043bd0@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> On 19 Sep, 15:34, "Tommy"  wrote:
>>> "Fod"  wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:7b26be50-06f3-4953-9e0d-2de2ab1e95a8@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Sep 19, 7:35 am, Doug  wrote:
>>>
>>>> It doesn't surprise me one bit.
>>> busy street you live in is it?
>>>
>>> Poor Steve Gizmo firth - going by his list of friends he must live on the
>>> dividing strip on the M25 :)
>> Who is Steve-Gizmo-firth?
>> Are you saying they are the same, if so please post proof.
>>
>> Francis 
> 
> 
 > Oh Franky?
 >
 > accessing  these NGs via  berlin and prophesing a "real" e-mail address?
 >
 > Now Iwonder who you are in real life
 >
 > LOL
 >

Are you saying that Francis is in Berlin?
 From his various posts I would think he was in the UK probably in the 
London area, but I am open to correction.
I await your answer, & can you make it in English.

-- 
Tony the Dragon

Tony Dragon wrote:
> Tommy wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "francis"  wrote in message
>> news:e74329ea-43c5-4f20-8fcc-d97c10043bd0@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>> On 19 Sep, 15:34, "Tommy"  wrote:
>>>> "Fod"  wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:7b26be50-06f3-4953-9e0d-2de2ab1e95a8@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Sep 19, 7:35 am, Doug  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't surprise me one bit.
>>>> busy street you live in is it?
>>>>
>>>> Poor Steve Gizmo firth - going by his list of friends he must live
>>>> on the dividing strip on the M25 :)
>>> Who is Steve-Gizmo-firth?
>>> Are you saying they are the same, if so please post proof.
>>>
>>> Francis
>>
>>
>> Oh Franky?
>>
>> accessing  these NGs via  berlin and prophesing a "real" e-mail
>> address? Now Iwonder who you are in real life
>>
>> LOL
>>
>
> Are you saying that Francis is in Berlin?
> From his various posts I would think he was in the UK probably in the
> London area, but I am open to correction.
> I await your answer, & can you make it in English.

Toomtard probably thinks he's in Berlin. The rest of us know that he's just 
using the same german news server many posters here do...

Mike P

Tony Dragon  wrote:

>  From his various posts I would think he was in the UK probably in the
> London area, but I am open to correction.

The headers of his posts make it clear that he's osting from inside the
UK. Toomy is simply falling over himself to show what a fuckwit he is.

I wonder if it was his public school education that taught him the
meaning of "prophesing"?

"Doug"  wrote in message 
news:74337eab-8c8b-40a9-bc1d-1f7582acc823@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> "· People in busy roads more likely to be ill, says study
> · Lack of traffic promotes sense of community
>
> Mrs A lives in Dovercourt Road in north Bristol and considers five
> people on her street as friends. But Mrs B, who is roughly the same
> age and lives round the corner in a very similar house in Muller
> Street, has only one friend.
>
> The difference, says a study, has nothing to do with personality, but
> is because of the weight of traffic. Fewer than 150 vehicles a day
> pass down Dovercourt Road, compared with more than 21,130 a day on
> Muller Street.

I live in a cul-de-sac with virtually no traffic. I just about recognise 
four of my neighbours by sight. I wouldn't count any of them as friends.

Colin Bignell

maybe they just dont like you :-P


"nightjar .me.uk>" <cpb@<insert my surname here> wrote in message 
news:fvqdnbhOC-7VRE7V4p2dnAA@giganews.com...
>
> "Doug"  wrote in message 
> news:74337eab-8c8b-40a9-bc1d-1f7582acc823@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>> "· People in busy roads more likely to be ill, says study
>> · Lack of traffic promotes sense of community
>>
>> Mrs A lives in Dovercourt Road in north Bristol and considers five
>> people on her street as friends. But Mrs B, who is roughly the same
>> age and lives round the corner in a very similar house in Muller
>> Street, has only one friend.
>>
>> The difference, says a study, has nothing to do with personality, but
>> is because of the weight of traffic. Fewer than 150 vehicles a day
>> pass down Dovercourt Road, compared with more than 21,130 a day on
>> Muller Street.
>
> I live in a cul-de-sac with virtually no traffic. I just about recognise 
> four of my neighbours by sight. I wouldn't count any of them as friends.
>
> Colin Bignell
>

On 19 Sep, 15:47, "Tommy"  wrote:
> Oh Franky?
>
> accessing  these NGs via  berlin and prophesing a "real" e-mail address?
>
> Now Iwonder who you are in real life
>
> LOL

Fuck me, Timmy, I knew you were a retarded cunt, but even by your
standards this is dumb.

"Doug"  wrote in message 
news:74337eab-8c8b-40a9-bc1d-1f7582acc823@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
It doesn't surprise me one bit.

"· People in busy roads more likely to be ill, says study
· Lack of traffic promotes sense of community

FOADQ

On 19 Sep, 07:53, "Graculus" 
wrote:
> "Doug"  wrote in message
>
> news:74337eab-8c8b-40a9-bc1d-1f7582acc823@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> It doesn't surprise me one bit.
>
> "· People in busy roads more likely to be ill, says study
> · Lack of traffic promotes sense of community
>
> ----
>
> Oh look, 3 _new_ threads in just over 10 minutes, and not even all on topic.
>
> How about some follow-up to all the bilge you started yesterday, including
> responding to the feedback to your own point of 'something should be done
> about texting while driving'? You seem to have gone all quiet when it was
> pointed out that something has been done.

You are quite wrong as usual. I pointed out that punishments for
killer motorists are far too lenient so something is not being done.

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Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.

"Doug"  wrote

You are quite wrong as usual.



While we're on the subject of being wrong, is oil $200 a barrel at the 
moment Doug?

Oh, and what do you think of my new signature?


-- 
Regards, Vince.

"To have masses of mouse droppings all over your food and utensils is very 
unpleasant" ( Doug Bollen)

On 20 Sep, 07:49, Doug  wrote:
> On 19 Sep, 07:53, "Graculus" 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Doug"  wrote in message
>
> >news:74337eab-8c8b-40a9-bc1d-1f7582acc823@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com..> > It doesn't surprise me one bit.
>
> > "� People in busy roads more likely to be ill, says study
> > � Lack of traffic promotes sense of community
>
> > ----
>
> > Oh look, 3 _new_ threads in just over 10 minutes, and not even all on topic.
>
> > How about some follow-up to all the bilge you started yesterday, including
> > responding to the feedback to your own point of 'something should be done
> > about texting while driving'? You seem to have gone all quiet when it was
> > pointed out that something has been done.
>
> You are quite wrong as usual. I pointed out that punishments for
> killer motorists are far too lenient so something is not being done.

Read that case yet, Gollum, you clueless old cunt?

"Doug"  wrote in message 
news:026a35f8-b4ca-45a9-b7ba-2bc7afbf0e72@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On 19 Sep, 07:53, "Graculus" 
wrote:
> "Doug"  wrote in message
>
> news:74337eab-8c8b-40a9-bc1d-1f7582acc823@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> It doesn't surprise me one bit.
>
> "· People in busy roads more likely to be ill, says study
> · Lack of traffic promotes sense of community
>
> ----
>
> Oh look, 3 _new_ threads in just over 10 minutes, and not even all on 
> topic.
>
> How about some follow-up to all the bilge you started yesterday, including
> responding to the feedback to your own point of 'something should be done
> about texting while driving'? You seem to have gone all quiet when it was
> pointed out that something has been done.

You are quite wrong as usual. I pointed out that punishments for
killer motorists are far too lenient so something is not being done.

---

Which was not the point you initially brought up. You started the thread by 
saying should be done about texting while driving. It was pointed out that 
it's illegal. That was nothing to do with killer motorists, as the story you 
quoted was about research, and nothing to do with road deaths. So you 
changed the point, and claimed that it was responding to the question of 
what the "something" is. Remember, sending a text is not the same as mowing 
someone down.

So, once again, what do you think should be done about people who text while 
driving, considering that it's already illegal?

On 20 Sep, 08:23, "Graculus" 
wrote:
> "Doug"  wrote in message
>
> news:026a35f8-b4ca-45a9-b7ba-2bc7afbf0e72@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On 19 Sep, 07:53, "Graculus" 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Doug"  wrote in message
>
> >news:74337eab-8c8b-40a9-bc1d-1f7582acc823@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com..> > It doesn't surprise me one bit.
>
> > "· People in busy roads more likely to be ill, says study
> > · Lack of traffic promotes sense of community
>
> > ----
>
> > Oh look, 3 _new_ threads in just over 10 minutes, and not even all on
> > topic.
>
> > How about some follow-up to all the bilge you started yesterday, including
> > responding to the feedback to your own point of 'something should be done
> > about texting while driving'? You seem to have gone all quiet when it was
> > pointed out that something has been done.
>
> You are quite wrong as usual. I pointed out that punishments for
> killer motorists are far too lenient so something is not being done.
>
> ---
>
> Which was not the point you initially brought up. You started the thread by
> saying should be done about texting while driving. It was pointed out that
> it's illegal. That was nothing to do with killer motorists, as the story you
> quoted was about research, and nothing to do with road deaths. So you
> changed the point, and claimed that it was responding to the question of
> what the "something" is. Remember, sending a text is not the same as mowing
> someone down.
>
> So, once again, what do you think should be done about people who text while
> driving, considering that it's already illegal?
>
Since texting while driving puts lives in danger it has everything to
do with killer motorists. The penalties for texting while driving are
ludicrously light, as are most penalties for dangerous motorists.
Presumably you don't consider that deliberately putting lives at risk
on our roads is at all serious?

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Doug wrote:
> On 19 Sep, 07:53, "Graculus" 
> wrote:
>> "Doug"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:74337eab-8c8b-40a9-bc1d-1f7582acc823@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>> It doesn't surprise me one bit.
>>
>> "· People in busy roads more likely to be ill, says study
>> · Lack of traffic promotes sense of community
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Oh look, 3 _new_ threads in just over 10 minutes, and not even all on topic.
>>
>> How about some follow-up to all the bilge you started yesterday, including
>> responding to the feedback to your own point of 'something should be done
>> about texting while driving'? You seem to have gone all quiet when it was
>> pointed out that something has been done.
> 
> You are quite wrong as usual. I pointed out that punishments for
> killer motorists are far too lenient so something is not being done.
> 
> --
> World Carfree Network
> http://www.worldcarfree.net/
> Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.

And as usual you were wrong.

-- 
Tony the Dragon

On 20 Sep, 08:40, Doug  wrote:
> On 20 Sep, 08:23, "Graculus" 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Doug"  wrote in message
>
> >news:026a35f8-b4ca-45a9-b7ba-2bc7afbf0e72@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > On 19 Sep, 07:53, "Graculus" 
> > wrote:
>
> > > "Doug"  wrote in message
>
> > >news:74337eab-8c8b-40a9-bc1d-1f7582acc823@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> > > It doesn't surprise me one bit.
>
> > > "� People in busy roads more likely to be ill, says study
> > > � Lack of traffic promotes sense of community
>
> > > ----
>
> > > Oh look, 3 _new_ threads in just over 10 minutes, and not even all on
> > > topic.
>
> > > How about some follow-up to all the bilge you started yesterday, including
> > > responding to the feedback to your own point of 'something should be done
> > > about texting while driving'? You seem to have gone all quiet when it was
> > > pointed out that something has been done.
>
> > You are quite wrong as usual. I pointed out that punishments for
> > killer motorists are far too lenient so something is not being done.
>
> > ---
>
> > Which was not the point you initially brought up. You started the thread by
> > saying should be done about texting while driving. It was pointed out that
> > it's illegal. That was nothing to do with killer motorists, as the story you
> > quoted was about research, and nothing to do with road deaths. So you
> > changed the point, and claimed that it was responding to the question of
> > what the "something" is. Remember, sending a text is not the same as mowing
> > someone down.
>
> > So, once again, what do you think should be done about people who text while
> > driving, considering that it's already illegal?
>
> Since texting while driving puts lives in danger it has everything to
> do with killer motorists. The penalties for texting while driving are
> ludicrously light, as are most penalties for dangerous motorists.
> Presumably you don't consider that deliberately putting lives at risk
> on our roads is at all serious?

Read that case yet, Gollum?

enforce the law?  make the punishment a deterrent?


"Graculus"  wrote in message 
news:6jjmnqF3m2k4U1@mid.individual.net...
> "Doug"  wrote in message 
> news:026a35f8-b4ca-45a9-b7ba-2bc7afbf0e72@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On 19 Sep, 07:53, "Graculus" 
> wrote:
>> "Doug"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:74337eab-8c8b-40a9-bc1d-1f7582acc823@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>> It doesn't surprise me one bit.
>>
>> "· People in busy roads more likely to be ill, says study
>> · Lack of traffic promotes sense of community
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Oh look, 3 _new_ threads in just over 10 minutes, and not even all on 
>> topic.
>>
>> How about some follow-up to all the bilge you started yesterday, 
>> including
>> responding to the feedback to your own point of 'something should be done
>> about texting while driving'? You seem to have gone all quiet when it was
>> pointed out that something has been done.
>
> You are quite wrong as usual. I pointed out that punishments for
> killer motorists are far too lenient so something is not being done.
>
> ---
>
> Which was not the point you initially brought up. You started the thread 
> by saying should be done about texting while driving. It was pointed out 
> that it's illegal. That was nothing to do with killer motorists, as the 
> story you quoted was about research, and nothing to do with road deaths. 
> So you changed the point, and claimed that it was responding to the 
> question of what the "something" is. Remember, sending a text is not the 
> same as mowing someone down.
>
> So, once again, what do you think should be done about people who text 
> while driving, considering that it's already illegal?

On 20 Sep, 08:40, Doug  wrote:
> On 20 Sep, 08:23, "Graculus" 
> wrote:
>
> > "Doug"  wrote in message
>
> >news:026a35f8-b4ca-45a9-b7ba-2bc7afbf0e72@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > On 19 Sep, 07:53, "Graculus" 
> > wrote:
>
> > > "Doug"  wrote in message
>
> > >news:74337eab-8c8b-40a9-bc1d-1f7582acc823@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> > > It doesn't surprise me one bit.
>
> > > "· People in busy roads more likely to be ill, says study
> > > · Lack of traffic promotes sense of community
>
> > > ----
>
> > > Oh look, 3 _new_ threads in just over 10 minutes, and not even all on
> > > topic.
>
> > > How about some follow-up to all the bilge you started yesterday, including
> > > responding to the feedback to your own point of 'something should be done
> > > about texting while driving'? You seem to have gone all quiet when it was
> > > pointed out that something has been done.
>
> > You are quite wrong as usual. I pointed out that punishments for
> > killer motorists are far too lenient so something is not being done.
>
> > ---
>
> > Which was not the point you initially brought up. You started the thread by
> > saying should be done about texting while driving. It was pointed out that
> > it's illegal. That was nothing to do with killer motorists, as the story you
> > quoted was about research, and nothing to do with road deaths. So you
> > changed the point, and claimed that it was responding to the question of
> > what the "something" is. Remember, sending a text is not the same as mowing
> > someone down.
>
> > So, once again, what do you think should be done about people who text while
> > driving, considering that it's already illegal?
>
> Since texting while driving puts lives in danger it has everything to
> do with killer motorists. The penalties for texting while driving are
> ludicrously light, as are most penalties for dangerous motorists.
> Presumably you don't consider that deliberately putting lives at risk
> on our roads is at all serious?
>
> --
> World Carfree Networkhttp://www.worldcarfree.net/
> Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.

presumably you didn't read any of the replies and just made up what
you thought others would say?

Fod