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date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:31:13 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.transport        back       
Business chiefs urge action on climate change   
Do you need any more proof that large profits are to be made from
greenwash, i.e. pretending to combat climate change?

"Business leaders including directors at Tesco, Lloyds TSB and other
top high street names have urged Gordon Brown to drop his slowly,
slowly approach to tackling global warming and go for
"transformational change", saying the prime minister should not be
held back by fears over the current financial crisis.

But the involvement in the initiative of BAA, owner of Heathrow, and
the energy firm E.ON angered environmentalists, who said the companies
that encouraged flying and built coal-fired power stations showed
"hypocrisy of the purest strain".

A letter signed by some of the biggest figures in British business, to
be sent today to Brown and to David Cameron and Nick Clegg, said the
party leaders should work together urgently on measures such as higher
energy efficiency standards, support for low-carbon technology and the
auctioning of carbon allowances..."

More:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/sep/19/greenbusiness.climatechange

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date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:31:13 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Doug

Re: Business chiefs urge action on climate change   
"Doug"  wrote in message 
news:93318567-abb0-4b2a-8062-ac8b0ab216b7@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> Do you need any more proof that large profits are to be made from
> greenwash, i.e. pretending to combat climate change?

I don't see anything transport repated here. Off Topic. Go away.
date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:49:05 +0100   author:   Graculus

Re: Business chiefs urge action on climate change   
Doug  wrote:

> Do you need any more proof that 

... Duhg starts off-topic threads a-plenty while denying that he does
such a thing?
date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:48:18 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Business chiefs urge action on climate change   
On Sep 19, 7:31 am, Doug  wrote:
> Do you need any more

posts about climate change?  Nah.  Why not try one of the
environmental groups and see if they've stopped laughing at you from
the last time you posted there.

Fod
date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 05:36:46 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Fod

Re: Business chiefs urge action on climate change   
On 19 Sep, 07:49, "Graculus" 
wrote:
> "Doug"  wrote in message
>
> news:93318567-abb0-4b2a-8062-ac8b0ab216b7@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Do you need any more proof that large profits are to be made from
> > greenwash, i.e. pretending to combat climate change?
>
> I don't see anything transport repated here. Off Topic. Go away.

I seem to remember that not all that long ago motorists on this
transport newsgroup were quite keen on carbon trading/offsetting/
neutral/footprint/blahblah as a means of trying to excuse their
pollution. Don't laugh! They were paying for people to plant trees for
them, among other things. As if this could ever compensate for taking
carbon out of the ground, which has been there for millions of years,
burning it and then releasing those emissions into the atmosphere in
the vain hope that some mechanism or other will absorb it and retain
it for more millions of years.

Greenwash insanity? LOL!

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date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:16:07 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Doug

Re: Business chiefs urge action on climate change   
On 20 Sep, 08:16, Doug  wrote:
> On 19 Sep, 07:49, "Graculus" 
> wrote:
>
> > "Doug"  wrote in message
>
> >news:93318567-abb0-4b2a-8062-ac8b0ab216b7@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > Do you need any more proof that large profits are to be made from
> > > greenwash, i.e. pretending to combat climate change?
>
> > I don't see anything transport repated here. Off Topic. Go away.
>
> I seem to remember that not all that long ago motorists on this
> transport newsgroup were quite keen on carbon trading/offsetting/
> neutral/footprint/blahblah as a means of trying to excuse their
> pollution.

Lying again, Gollum?
date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:18:02 -0700 (PDT)   author:   BrianW

Re: Business chiefs urge action on climate change   
On 19 Sep, 10:48, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> Doug  wrote:
> > Do you need any more proof that
>
> ... Duhg starts off-topic threads a-plenty while denying that he does
> such a thing?

Why are you deliberately ignoring the point I made about serious
profits from greenwash? Is it because you can no longer deny it and
you now see yourself, as a serious 4x4 polluter, being deliberately
misled and exploited by governments and corporations?

--
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http://www.worldcarfree.net/
Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.
date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:22:41 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Doug

Re: Business chiefs urge action on climate change   
Doug wrote:
> On 19 Sep, 07:49, "Graculus" 
> wrote:
>> "Doug"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:93318567-abb0-4b2a-8062-ac8b0ab216b7@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> Do you need any more proof that large profits are to be made from
>>> greenwash, i.e. pretending to combat climate change?
>>
>> I don't see anything transport repated here. Off Topic. Go away.
>
> I seem to remember that not all that long ago motorists on this
> transport newsgroup were quite keen on carbon trading/offsetting/
> neutral/footprint/blahblah as a means of trying to excuse their
> pollution. Don't laugh! They were paying for people to plant trees for
> them, among other things.

More fantasy Doug? Unless you can show otherwise by linking to the post 
where someone said that.
date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:12:05 +0100   author:   Brimstone

Re: Business chiefs urge action on climate change   
Doug wrote:
> On 19 Sep, 10:48, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
>> Doug  wrote:
>>> Do you need any more proof that
>>
>> ... Duhg starts off-topic threads a-plenty while denying that he does
>> such a thing?
>
> Why are you deliberately ignoring the point I made about serious
> profits from greenwash? Is it because you can no longer deny it and
> you now see yourself, as a serious 4x4 polluter, being deliberately
> misled and exploited by governments and corporations?

ROFL The only person being misled and misleading others is you.
date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:12:54 +0100   author:   Brimstone

Re: Business chiefs urge action on climate change   
On 20 Sep, 08:22, Doug  wrote:
> On 19 Sep, 10:48, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
>
> > Doug  wrote:
> > > Do you need any more proof that
>
> > ... Duhg starts off-topic threads a-plenty while denying that he does
> > such a thing?
>
> Why are you deliberately ignoring the point I made about serious
> profits from greenwash? Is it because you can no longer deny it and
> you now see yourself, as a serious 4x4 polluter, being deliberately
> misled and exploited by governments and corporations?

Says the hypocritical old cunt who used to drive a Land Rover
date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:00:19 -0700 (PDT)   author:   BrianW

Re: Business chiefs urge action on climate change   
Doug  wrote:

> On 19 Sep, 10:48, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> > Doug  wrote:
> > > Do you need any more proof that
> >
> > ... Duhg starts off-topic threads a-plenty while denying that he does
> > such a thing?
> 
> Why are you deliberately ignoring the point I made about serious
> profits from greenwash?


Which bit of "off-topic" did you not understand?

> Is it because you can no longer deny it and you now see yourself, as a
> serious 4x4 polluter, being deliberately misled and exploited by
> governments and corporations?

Yawn, more bullshit and ad hominem.
date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:43:30 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Business chiefs urge action on climate change   
Doug  wrote:

> I seem to remember that not all that long ago motorists on this transport
> newsgroup were quite keen on carbon trading/offsetting/
> neutral/footprint/blahblah

No you don't, you're simply trying to excuse your usual bad behaviour.
date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:43:30 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

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