In message 
          Charles Ellson  wrote:

> On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:58:29 +0100, Graeme Wall
>  wrote:
> 
> >In message 
> >          John Williamson  wrote:
> >
> >> Graeme Wall wrote:
> >> > In message 
> >> >           John Williamson  wrote:
> >> > 
> >[snip]
> >> > 
> >> Google Earth doesn't do useful stuff like that, just pictures, 
> >> unfortunately. 
> >
> >I thought it did, it's one of the readouts bottom left IIRC.  Or maybe I'm
> >thinking of one of the other mapping packages.
> >
> You thought right. If you tick "Terrain" in the LHS "Layers" section
> then you will see the altitude/elevation of the location under the
> cursor at the bottom centre of the Google Earth main window.
> 

Brain cells are still ticking over then.

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Conor  wrote:

> Who was talking about sockets? You see that little round screw cap 
> thing on the back of some equipment? It's called a fuse holder.

"What was scary was how much of a problem they had finding a fuse 
for a plug when I went there once."

In article <1imwfte.hv5u4s1mn2h8N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
says...
> Conor  wrote:
> 
> > Who was talking about sockets? You see that little round screw cap 
> > thing on the back of some equipment? It's called a fuse holder.
> 
> "What was scary was how much of a problem they had finding a fuse 
> for a plug when I went there once."
> 
Because the Proliant server I was doing at the time had a plug on it.

And your point is?

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Conor  wrote:

> In article <1imwfte.hv5u4s1mn2h8N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
> says...
> > Conor  wrote:
> > 
> > > Who was talking about sockets? You see that little round screw cap
> > > thing on the back of some equipment? It's called a fuse holder.
> > 
> > "What was scary was how much of a problem they had finding a fuse 
> > for a plug when I went there once."
> > 
> Because the Proliant server I was doing at the time had a plug on it.
> 
> And your point is?

<sigh>

You come up with some amateur crap about 13A plug tops. You seem to be
astonished that no one in a CoLo/DC had a suitable cartridge fuse. It's
pointed out to you that such fuses are not used and mains leads are not
fused, hence the reason why ceramic cartridge fuses aren't carried as
spares. You go off on one blaring like a gut-shot walrus. By now you
seem to have forgotten your original post and start complaining about
chassis/panel mounted fuses (which again, aren't that common in this
environment). So I reminded you about your original post.

I'm mildly amused that you don't seem to have a clue what power leads
are commonly used, yet you consider yourself to have appropriate skills
to comment on how DCs are set up and run.

TBH since you were the equipment installer/maintainer it was *your*
responsibility to carry the spares and the appropriate tools, but like
most solder jockeys it seems you turn up on site less than half equipped
to do the job you're being paid to do.

Now, you've dug a pit over your comments about remote access, you
embelished it with some nice crenellated ramparts when you wibbled about
plug tops. I assume that you'll soon be calling in the JCB and a
supporting team of Irish navvies in your attempt to reach 3,000ft
subsurface?

In article <1imwo5e.mf0txjryci5mN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
says...

<snip>

Whatever.

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looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article , Adrian says...
> Conor  gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying:
> 
> >> > Who was talking about sockets? You see that little round screw cap
> >> > thing on the back of some equipment? It's called a fuse holder.
> 
> >> "What was scary was how much of a problem they had finding a fuse for a
> >> plug when I went there once."
> 
> > Because the Proliant server I was doing at the time had a plug on it.
> 
> Why the fuck were you expecting to use that mains lead to power the 
> server?
> 
Because I was provided with a bank of mains sockets and the lead came 
with the server?

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Conor  wrote:

> Because I was provided with a bank of mains sockets and the lead came
> with the server?

Just plug it into the next row of racks.

<Awaits response>

In article <1imyds5.3dqdpaqm98a1N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
says...
> Conor  wrote:
> 
> > Because I was provided with a bank of mains sockets and the lead came
> > with the server?
> 
> Just plug it into the next row of racks.
> 
> <Awaits response>
> 
Was easier just to get a lead out.

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Conor  wrote:

> In article <1imyds5.3dqdpaqm98a1N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
> says...
> > Conor  wrote:
> > 
> > > Because I was provided with a bank of mains sockets and the lead came
> > > with the server?
> > 
> > Just plug it into the next row of racks.
> > 
> > <Awaits response>
> > 
> Was easier just to get a lead out.

Is the wrong answer.

<boom> 400V across your PSU.

In article <1in1rqx.1vmf4vffe75wmN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
says...
> Conor  wrote:
> 
> > In article <1imyds5.3dqdpaqm98a1N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
> > says...
> > > Conor  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Because I was provided with a bank of mains sockets and the lead came
> > > > with the server?
> > > 
> > > Just plug it into the next row of racks.
> > > 
> > > <Awaits response>
> > > 
> > Was easier just to get a lead out.
> 
> Is the wrong answer.
> 
> <boom> 400V across your PSU.
> 
Where did the 400V come from, the magical voltage pixie?


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Conor  wrote:

> In article <1in1rqx.1vmf4vffe75wmN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
> says...
> > Conor  wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <1imyds5.3dqdpaqm98a1N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
> > > says...
> > > > Conor  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Because I was provided with a bank of mains sockets and the lead came
> > > > > with the server?
> > > > 
> > > > Just plug it into the next row of racks.
> > > > 
> > > > <Awaits response>
> > > > 
> > > Was easier just to get a lead out.
> > 
> > Is the wrong answer.
> > 
> > <boom> 400V across your PSU.
> > 
> Where did the 400V come from, the magical voltage pixie?

Thanks for confirming that you've never worked in a DC.

In article <1in1uc1.1cr20pc1ijmtd1N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
says...

> > Where did the 400V come from, the magical voltage pixie?
> 
> Thanks for confirming that you've never worked in a DC.
> 
Who said I did? I merely stated I'd installed some kit in one. 
Admittedly, it was about 5 years ago.


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Conor  wrote:

> In article <1in1uc1.1cr20pc1ijmtd1N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
> says...
> 
> > > Where did the 400V come from, the magical voltage pixie?
> > 
> > Thanks for confirming that you've never worked in a DC.
> > 
> Who said I did? I merely stated I'd installed some kit in one. 
> Admittedly, it was about 5 years ago.

Even five years ago, 400V between rows was standard. It comes as a free
gift from the three-phase fairy.

In article <1in2bss.1kza1lu104zslsN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
says...
> Conor  wrote:
> 
> > In article <1in1uc1.1cr20pc1ijmtd1N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
> > says...
> > 
> > > > Where did the 400V come from, the magical voltage pixie?
> > > 
> > > Thanks for confirming that you've never worked in a DC.
> > > 
> > Who said I did? I merely stated I'd installed some kit in one. 
> > Admittedly, it was about 5 years ago.
> 
> Even five years ago, 400V between rows was standard. It comes as a free
> gift from the three-phase fairy.
> 
Don't know of much IT kit which is 3 phase.

-- 
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I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

Conor wrote:
> In article <1in2bss.1kza1lu104zslsN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
> says...
>> Conor  wrote:
>>
>>> In article <1in1uc1.1cr20pc1ijmtd1N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve
>>> Firth says...
>>>
>>>>> Where did the 400V come from, the magical voltage pixie?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for confirming that you've never worked in a DC.
>>>>
>>> Who said I did? I merely stated I'd installed some kit in one.
>>> Admittedly, it was about 5 years ago.
>>
>> Even five years ago, 400V between rows was standard. It comes as a
>> free gift from the three-phase fairy.
>>
> Don't know of much IT kit which is 3 phase.

Oh dear. I'm no sparker, much less an IT boffin, but I can see the hole in 
that Conor.

(Clue: just because there are three phases it doesn't mean they all have to 
be used.)

Conor  wrote:

> In article <1in2bss.1kza1lu104zslsN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
> says...
> > Conor  wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <1in1uc1.1cr20pc1ijmtd1N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
> > > says...
> > > 
> > > > > Where did the 400V come from, the magical voltage pixie?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for confirming that you've never worked in a DC.
> > > > 
> > > Who said I did? I merely stated I'd installed some kit in one. 
> > > Admittedly, it was about 5 years ago.
> > 
> > Even five years ago, 400V between rows was standard. It comes as a free
> > gift from the three-phase fairy.
> > 
> Don't know of much IT kit which is 3 phase.

<stares>

No, he really did say that.

Conor, the kit isn't 3-phase, the supply is. Therefore each row is
loaded with as near an equal installation as can be managed and every
row is on a different phase. This balances the load across all three
phases but does have the unfortunate effect of giving 400V between rows
if someone is daft enough to use a distribution block in another
row/rack.

Here endeth the free lesson.

Conor wrote:
> In article <1in2bss.1kza1lu104zslsN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
> says...
>> Conor  wrote:
>>
>>> In article <1in1uc1.1cr20pc1ijmtd1N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
>>> says...
>>>
>>>>> Where did the 400V come from, the magical voltage pixie?
>>>> Thanks for confirming that you've never worked in a DC.
>>>>
>>> Who said I did? I merely stated I'd installed some kit in one. 
>>> Admittedly, it was about 5 years ago.
>> Even five years ago, 400V between rows was standard. It comes as a free
>> gift from the three-phase fairy.
>>
> Don't know of much IT kit which is 3 phase.
> 

Did he say that, I think not, the 440 is between phases, please try to 
keep up.

-- 
Tony the Dragon

In article , Brimstone says...

> > Don't know of much IT kit which is 3 phase.
> 
> Oh dear. I'm no sparker, much less an IT boffin, but I can see the hole in 
> that Conor.
> 
> (Clue: just because there are three phases it doesn't mean they all have to 
> be used.)
> 
No, really? Lets recap that. I don't know much IT kit that has such a 
power drain that it needs to use 3 phase or is so prone to voltage 
ripple that it needs to use 3 phase.


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looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article <1in2glf.m03lnassll3vN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
says...
> Conor  wrote:
> 
> > In article <1in2bss.1kza1lu104zslsN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
> > says...
> > > Conor  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > In article <1in1uc1.1cr20pc1ijmtd1N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
> > > > says...
> > > > 
> > > > > > Where did the 400V come from, the magical voltage pixie?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for confirming that you've never worked in a DC.
> > > > > 
> > > > Who said I did? I merely stated I'd installed some kit in one. 
> > > > Admittedly, it was about 5 years ago.
> > > 
> > > Even five years ago, 400V between rows was standard. It comes as a free
> > > gift from the three-phase fairy.
> > > 
> > Don't know of much IT kit which is 3 phase.
> 
> <stares>
> 
> No, he really did say that.
> 
> Conor, the kit isn't 3-phase, the supply is. Therefore each row is
> loaded with as near an equal installation as can be managed and every
> row is on a different phase. This balances the load across all three
> phases but does have the unfortunate effect of giving 400V between rows
> if someone is daft enough to use a distribution block in another
> row/rack.
> 
> Here endeth the free lesson.
> 
Whixh wasn't actually needed. Why did you mention 400V?

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looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article , Tony Dragon 
says...
> Conor wrote:
> > In article <1in2bss.1kza1lu104zslsN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
> > says...
> >> Conor  wrote:
> >>
> >>> In article <1in1uc1.1cr20pc1ijmtd1N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
> >>> says...
> >>>
> >>>>> Where did the 400V come from, the magical voltage pixie?
> >>>> Thanks for confirming that you've never worked in a DC.
> >>>>
> >>> Who said I did? I merely stated I'd installed some kit in one. 
> >>> Admittedly, it was about 5 years ago.
> >> Even five years ago, 400V between rows was standard. It comes as a free
> >> gift from the three-phase fairy.
> >>
> > Don't know of much IT kit which is 3 phase.
> > 
> 
> Did he say that, I think not, the 440 is between phases, please try to 
> keep up.
> 
No shit. I was trying to figure out WTF he mentioned it. After all, to 
end up with a connection like that, you'd have to have a completely 
unrealistic would never happen scenario.


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looking good either. - Scott Adams

Conor wrote:
> In article , Brimstone
> says...
>
>>> Don't know of much IT kit which is 3 phase.
>>
>> Oh dear. I'm no sparker, much less an IT boffin, but I can see the
>> hole in that Conor.
>>
>> (Clue: just because there are three phases it doesn't mean they all
>> have to be used.)
>>
> No, really? Lets recap that. I don't know much IT kit that has such a
> power drain that it needs to use 3 phase or is so prone to voltage
> ripple that it needs to use 3 phase.

Yes folks, he really did say that.

Conor  wrote:

> No, really? Lets recap that. I don't know much IT kit that has such a
> power drain that it needs to use 3 phase or is so prone to voltage 
> ripple that it needs to use 3 phase.

Put down the spade and step away from the hole.

Conor  wrote:

> In article <1in2glf.m03lnassll3vN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
> says...

[snip]
> >
> > Here endeth the free lesson.
> > 
> Whixh wasn't actually needed.

Then why were you asking fuckwitted newbie questions?

> Why did you mention 400V?

Like that one.

Conor wrote:
> In article <1in2bss.1kza1lu104zslsN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
> says...
>> Conor  wrote:
>>
>>> In article <1in1uc1.1cr20pc1ijmtd1N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
>>> says...
>>>
>>>>> Where did the 400V come from, the magical voltage pixie?
>>>> Thanks for confirming that you've never worked in a DC.
>>>>
>>> Who said I did? I merely stated I'd installed some kit in one. 
>>> Admittedly, it was about 5 years ago.
>> Even five years ago, 400V between rows was standard. It comes as a free
>> gift from the three-phase fairy.
>>
> Don't know of much IT kit which is 3 phase.

All IT stuff runs on low(ish) voltage DC these days, so whatever the 
power supply takes from the mains determines whether it will be 3 phase 
or not. Since most IT stuff is less than a large number of kW it will 
almost always be single phase.

The highest voltage you will find in any IT stuff is around 15 volts DC.



-- 
John Wright

"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?

You would have a bunch of people standing around in a cave, chatting and
socialising and not getting anything done!" - Professor Temple Grandin

In article <1in42sv.ymmqd0wo4yekN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
says...
> Conor  wrote:
> 
> > No, really? Lets recap that. I don't know much IT kit that has such a
> > power drain that it needs to use 3 phase or is so prone to voltage 
> > ripple that it needs to use 3 phase.
> 
> Put down the spade and step away from the hole.
> 
Answer the question. If you can't answer it then it obviously doesn't 
exist.

-- 
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looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article <1in42uv.1cb5mvhvlm3krN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
says...
> Conor  wrote:
> 
> > In article <1in2glf.m03lnassll3vN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
> > says...
> 
> [snip]
> > >
> > > Here endeth the free lesson.
> > > 
> > Whixh wasn't actually needed.
> 
> Then why were you asking fuckwitted newbie questions?
> 
> > Why did you mention 400V?
> 
> Like that one.
> 
Answer the question. I notice there's a lot of abuse and "nebie" 
calling but fuck all answers, Steve.

So answer it.

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In article , Brimstone says...
> Conor wrote:
> > In article , Brimstone
> > says...
> >
> >>> Don't know of much IT kit which is 3 phase.
> >>
> >> Oh dear. I'm no sparker, much less an IT boffin, but I can see the
> >> hole in that Conor.
> >>
> >> (Clue: just because there are three phases it doesn't mean they all
> >> have to be used.)
> >>
> > No, really? Lets recap that. I don't know much IT kit that has such a
> > power drain that it needs to use 3 phase or is so prone to voltage
> > ripple that it needs to use 3 phase.
> 
> Yes folks, he really did say that. 
> 
So answer the question.


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In article <1in42sv.ymmqd0wo4yekN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
says...
> Conor  wrote:
> 
> > No, really? Lets recap that. I don't know much IT kit that has such a
> > power drain that it needs to use 3 phase or is so prone to voltage 
> > ripple that it needs to use 3 phase.
> 
> Put down the spade and step away from the hole.
> 
Answer the question. What IT kit has such a large power requirement or 
is so prone to voltage ripple that it needs 3 phase?


-- 
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Conor  wrote:

> In article <1in42uv.1cb5mvhvlm3krN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
> says...
> > Conor  wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <1in2glf.m03lnassll3vN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
> > > says...
> > 
> > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > Here endeth the free lesson.
> > > > 
> > > Whixh wasn't actually needed.
> > 
> > Then why were you asking fuckwitted newbie questions?
> > 
> > > Why did you mention 400V?
> > 
> > Like that one.
> > 
> Answer the question. I notice there's a lot of abuse and "nebie" 
> calling but fuck all answers, Steve.
> 
> So answer it.

You've already had the answer you fucking moron.

In article <1in6iqh.1ic7venk2jfviN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
says...

> 
> You've already had the answer you fucking moron.
> 
So let me get this straight.

You use 3 phase power with 240V on each phase or 415V with stepdown 
transformer. According to you, if I have gear in Rack A that's on Phase 
A and I plug it into the power line on Rack B that's on Phase B, I get 
400V?

How? 

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looking good either. - Scott Adams

Conor wrote:
> In article <1in6iqh.1ic7venk2jfviN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
> says...
>
>>
>> You've already had the answer you fucking moron.
>>
> So let me get this straight.
>
> You use 3 phase power with 240V on each phase or 415V with stepdown
> transformer. According to you, if I have gear in Rack A that's on
> Phase A and I plug it into the power line on Rack B that's on Phase
> B, I get 400V?
>
> How?

I haven't seen anything to suggest that.

On 13 Sep, 08:30, "Brimstone"  wrote:
> Conor wrote:
> > In article <1in6iqh.1ic7venk2jfviN%%ste...@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
> > says...
>
> >> You've already had the answer you fucking moron.
>
> > So let me get this straight.
>
> > You use 3 phase power with 240V on each phase or 415V with stepdown
> > transformer. According to you, if I have gear in Rack A that's on
> > Phase A and I plug it into the power line on Rack B that's on Phase
> > B, I get 400V?
>
> > How?
>
> I haven't seen anything to suggest that.

Its fun to see them squabble though isn't it.

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In article , Brimstone says...
> Conor wrote:
> > In article <1in6iqh.1ic7venk2jfviN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
> > says...
> >
> >>
> >> You've already had the answer you fucking moron.
> >>
> > So let me get this straight.
> >
> > You use 3 phase power with 240V on each phase or 415V with stepdown
> > transformer. According to you, if I have gear in Rack A that's on
> > Phase A and I plug it into the power line on Rack B that's on Phase
> > B, I get 400V?
> >
> > How?
> 
> I haven't seen anything to suggest that. 
> 
I have where Steve said that if I plugged it into the adjacent rack I'd 
get 400V.


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Conor wrote:
> In article , Brimstone
> says...
>> Conor wrote:
>>> In article <1in6iqh.1ic7venk2jfviN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve
>>> Firth says...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You've already had the answer you fucking moron.
>>>>
>>> So let me get this straight.
>>>
>>> You use 3 phase power with 240V on each phase or 415V with stepdown
>>> transformer. According to you, if I have gear in Rack A that's on
>>> Phase A and I plug it into the power line on Rack B that's on Phase
>>> B, I get 400V?
>>>
>>> How?
>>
>> I haven't seen anything to suggest that.
>>
> I have where Steve said that if I plugged it into the adjacent rack
> I'd get 400V.

It might be worth you re-reading his post.

If not then I hope you're getting a decent price on the JCB hire.

In article , Brimstone says...
> Conor wrote:
> > In article , Brimstone
> > says...
> >> Conor wrote:
> >>> In article <1in6iqh.1ic7venk2jfviN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve
> >>> Firth says...
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You've already had the answer you fucking moron.
> >>>>
> >>> So let me get this straight.
> >>>
> >>> You use 3 phase power with 240V on each phase or 415V with stepdown
> >>> transformer. According to you, if I have gear in Rack A that's on
> >>> Phase A and I plug it into the power line on Rack B that's on Phase
> >>> B, I get 400V?
> >>>
> >>> How?
> >>
> >> I haven't seen anything to suggest that.
> >>
> > I have where Steve said that if I plugged it into the adjacent rack
> > I'd get 400V.
> 
> It might be worth you re-reading his post.
> 
Tell me what I missed. Can you even remember which post I'm referring 
to? Why did he mention 400V if I plugged it into another feed?

Or have you finally read up on 3 phase and realised you and he were 
wrong?


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looking good either. - Scott Adams

Conor  wrote:

> You use 3 phase power with 240V on each phase or 415V with stepdown 
> transformer. According to you, if I have gear in Rack A that's on Phase
> A and I plug it into the power line on Rack B that's on Phase B, I get
> 400V?
> 
> How? 

(L-N)*SQRT(3) ring any bells?

It's 398.5V if you're being picky.

And it's *very* amusing watching you thrashing around trying to save
some element of face after your fuck-up about mains leads.

In article <1in7qnz.1kg99zt5c2lx6N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
says...
> Conor  wrote:
> 
> > You use 3 phase power with 240V on each phase or 415V with stepdown 
> > transformer. According to you, if I have gear in Rack A that's on Phase
> > A and I plug it into the power line on Rack B that's on Phase B, I get
> > 400V?
> > 
> > How? 
> 
> (L-N)*SQRT(3) ring any bells?
> 
> It's 398.5V if you're being picky.

ROFLMFAO. Again, how do I manage to do that by plugging it into the 
adjacent rack on a different phase?




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In article <1in7qnz.1kg99zt5c2lx6N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
says...
> Conor  wrote:
> 
> > You use 3 phase power with 240V on each phase or 415V with stepdown 
> > transformer. According to you, if I have gear in Rack A that's on Phase
> > A and I plug it into the power line on Rack B that's on Phase B, I get
> > 400V?
> > 
> > How? 
> 
> (L-N)*SQRT(3) ring any bells?
> 
> It's 398.5V if you're being picky.
> 
> And it's *very* amusing watching you thrashing around trying to save
> some element of face after your fuck-up about mains leads.
> 
There is no fuck-up. How would I end up having 400V after plugging it 
into a rack on another phase?

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Conor wrote:
> In article <1in7qnz.1kg99zt5c2lx6N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
> says...
>> Conor  wrote:
>>
>>> You use 3 phase power with 240V on each phase or 415V with stepdown 
>>> transformer. According to you, if I have gear in Rack A that's on Phase
>>> A and I plug it into the power line on Rack B that's on Phase B, I get
>>> 400V?
>>>
>>> How? 
>> (L-N)*SQRT(3) ring any bells?
>>
>> It's 398.5V if you're being picky.
>>
>> And it's *very* amusing watching you thrashing around trying to save
>> some element of face after your fuck-up about mains leads.
>>
> There is no fuck-up. How would I end up having 400V after plugging it 
> into a rack on another phase?
> 

At the place I was at Friday you would have seen a sign saying
'Caution 400v between cabinets' or something very similar.

-- 
Tony the Dragon

Tony Dragon  wrote:

> 
> At the place I was at Friday you would have seen a sign saying
> 'Caution 400v between cabinets' or something very similar.

Indeed.

Conor doesn't seem to understand that there's 400V between phases.

In article <1in82k2.14tvmlc12o32mdN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
says...
> Tony Dragon  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > At the place I was at Friday you would have seen a sign saying
> > 'Caution 400v between cabinets' or something very similar.
> 
> Indeed.
> 
> Conor doesn't seem to understand that there's 400V between phases.
> 
Proof?

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Conor  wrote:

> In article <1in82k2.14tvmlc12o32mdN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
> says...
> > Tony Dragon  wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > At the place I was at Friday you would have seen a sign saying
> > > 'Caution 400v between cabinets' or something very similar.
> > 
> > Indeed.
> > 
> > Conor doesn't seem to understand that there's 400V between phases.
> > 
> Proof?

"How would I end up having 400V after plugging it 
into a rack on another phase?"

"According to you, if I have gear in Rack A that's on Phase 
A and I plug it into the power line on Rack B that's on Phase B, I get 
400V? How? "

"Why did you mention 400V?"

"Where did the 400V come from, the magical voltage pixie?"

In article <1in9477.1quusmv2bhz28N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
says...
> Conor  wrote:
> 
> > In article <1in82k2.14tvmlc12o32mdN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
> > says...
> > > Tony Dragon  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > At the place I was at Friday you would have seen a sign saying
> > > > 'Caution 400v between cabinets' or something very similar.
> > > 
> > > Indeed.
> > > 
> > > Conor doesn't seem to understand that there's 400V between phases.
> > > 
> > Proof?
> 
> "How would I end up having 400V after plugging it 
> into a rack on another phase?"
> 
> "According to you, if I have gear in Rack A that's on Phase 
> A and I plug it into the power line on Rack B that's on Phase B, I get 
> 400V? How? "
> 
> "Why did you mention 400V?"
> 
> "Where did the 400V come from, the magical voltage pixie?"
> 
> 
ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION, why would I end up with 400V?

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