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date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:32:19 +0100,    group: uk.transport        back       
Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
A message to all those who've been following my fotopic postings

As I've now got more that 150 photos on the South Shore part of my
fotopic site and over 120 on the 'real' trains part of the site I
realise that it is getting a bit more difficult for people to find
specific items of interest to them.

Therefore I will shortly be adding new collections and moving some of
the existing photos over to these new collections as and when I find out
exactly how to do it (I think I've got it sorted but I have to be
certain that I've got it right before I go too far).

Two examples of the kind of collections I hope to create are photos I've
taken of Charlie Fox-Wilson's Broke Brick Mountain and Cliff South's
Ashley Danville and Deanstown layouts. It should also make it easier if
anyone wants to link to a specific 'theme'.

This should take place by Tuesday or Wednesday next week but in the
meantime this is your chance to view the whole of the gallery at
http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/

If I get enough time I may also 'rationalise' some of the photos and
delete those which are out of date or no longer relevant e.g. older
photos of Broke Brick or the AD&D - unless you want me to keep the older
photos on my site so that you can see the progress that has been made
between photo shoots. Just in case you miss anything follow the link
above. The photos are currently viewed as last first so you may want to
go to the back photo on the index and then work forward as I will
probably delete the older photos first.

I should also have some news for you about a new 'collection' which will
feature my loft layout - if I can remember to take the camera up there!

I have in mind to take photos of the installation of a Lenz 150 DCC 
auxiliary (point motor) decoder which will operate up to 6 turnouts at a 
time. As I'm using this with Tortoise motors it did originally present 
me with a few problems which I've managed to solve and which may help 
others. Anyone interested in this?

-- 
Mike Hughes
A Taxi driver licensed for London and Brighton
at home in Tarring, West Sussex, England
Interested in American trains real and model?
Look here http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:32:19 +0100   author:   Mike Hughes

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:32:19 +0100, Mike Hughes
 said in
<7xJe4YCDCOwIFw+j@mikehughes.demon.co.uk>:

>A message to all those who've been following my fotopic postings

You're going to stop spamming your website?

Oh no, of course not.

Enough.  In the trollbox with you.

Guy
-- 
May contain traces of irony.  Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound
date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:31:50 +0100   author:   Just zis Guy, you know?

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
"Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote

> You're going to stop spamming your website?
>
> Oh no, of course not.
>
> Enough.  In the trollbox with you.

I'm thinking the same.  This spamming is becoming tedious.

John.
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:40:54 +0100   author:   John Turner lid

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Sep 5, 1:31 am, "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote:

> You're going to stop spamming your website?

He's not selling anything, so he's not "spamming": just offering to
share his pictures with any other model railroaders who might be
interested. If you're *not* interested, just don't go look at the
pictures. Simple, no?

BTW: your sig line as well as your post lead me to believe you may
have fallen on your head without a helmet once too often.

-Pete
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 11:20:39 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Twibil

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
Mike Hughes wrote:
> A message to all those who've been following my fotopic postings
> 
> As I've now got more that 150 photos on the South Shore part of my
> fotopic site and over 120 on the 'real' trains part of the site I
> realise that it is getting a bit more difficult for people to find
> specific items of interest to them.
> 
> Therefore I will shortly be adding new collections and moving some of
> the existing photos over to these new collections as and when I find out
> exactly how to do it (I think I've got it sorted but I have to be
> certain that I've got it right before I go too far).
> 
> Two examples of the kind of collections I hope to create are photos I've
> taken of Charlie Fox-Wilson's Broke Brick Mountain and Cliff South's
> Ashley Danville and Deanstown layouts. It should also make it easier if
> anyone wants to link to a specific 'theme'.
> 
> This should take place by Tuesday or Wednesday next week but in the
> meantime this is your chance to view the whole of the gallery at
> http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/
> 
> If I get enough time I may also 'rationalise' some of the photos and
> delete those which are out of date or no longer relevant e.g. older
> photos of Broke Brick or the AD&D - unless you want me to keep the older
> photos on my site so that you can see the progress that has been made
> between photo shoots. Just in case you miss anything follow the link
> above. The photos are currently viewed as last first so you may want to
> go to the back photo on the index and then work forward as I will
> probably delete the older photos first.
> 
> I should also have some news for you about a new 'collection' which will
> feature my loft layout - if I can remember to take the camera up there!
> 
> I have in mind to take photos of the installation of a Lenz 150 DCC 
> auxiliary (point motor) decoder which will operate up to 6 turnouts at a 
> time. As I'm using this with Tortoise motors it did originally present 
> me with a few problems which I've managed to solve and which may help 
> others. Anyone interested in this?
> 

Where were the BC Rail photos taken?
I see you are in UK but the photos kinda look like Vancouver, BC, Canada.
date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:43:27 GMT   author:   Big_Al

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
Us Canadians really object to being called "Americans", as in your header: -

American Railroad photos real and model by Mike @ fotopic.net



--
Cheers
Roger T.
See the GER at: -
http://www.islandnet.com/~rogertra/
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:17:46 -0700   author:   Roger T.

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
"Twibil"  wrote

> He's not selling anything, so he's not "spamming": just offering to
> share his pictures with any other model railroaders who might be
> interested. If you're *not* interested, just don't go look at the
> pictures. Simple, no?

Not at all simple - these messages are being cross-posted to other groups 
including uk.rec.models.rail - this group has a very specific charter 
limiting posting to topics directly relating to the modelling of UK 
prototypes.  In that context (and that group is where I for one have read 
these postings), such off-topic messages are very definitely spam.

John.
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 21:02:53 +0100   author:   John Turner lid

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Sep 5, 12:17 pm, "Roger T."  wrote:

> Us Canadians really object to being called "Americans", as in your headerObject all you like: Canada will *still* be located in North America,
as is the U.S.

I thought you guys only got this bored in the winter.
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:14:41 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Twibil

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Sep 5, 1:02 pm, "John Turner" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> > He's not selling anything, so he's not "spamming": just offering to
> > share his pictures with any other model railroaders who might be
> > interested. If you're *not* interested, just don't go look at the
> > pictures. Simple, no?
>
> Not at all simple - these messages are being cross-posted to other groups
> including uk.rec.models.rail - this group has a very specific charter
> limiting posting to topics directly relating to the modelling of UK
> prototypes.  In that context (and that group is where I for one have read
> these postings), such off-topic messages are very definitely spam.

Nope, it still ain't "spam", but maybe if you lie down and cry
yourself to sleep tonight things will look better in the morning.

Get a grip.

-Pete
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:17:22 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Twibil

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
"Twibil" wrote: -

> Us Canadians really object to being called "Americans", as in your
> header: -

Object all you like: Canada will *still* be located in North America,
as is the U.S.

---------------------------------------------

This is correct, "North America".  Canadians don't object to "North
America".

"America" has been stolen by the U.S.A. as the name of their country, which
is why Canada is not part of "America".  The continent name is "North
America" not "America".  Why?  See preceeding sentence.

However, why is it that when Canadians object to being called "Americans"
people like yourself say we are wrong yet if some other country changes
their name and decides to be called something else, "Mirimar" rather than
"Burma" for example, or a city says you must now call us "Bejing" instead of
"Peking" you go along with it?  If Canadians insist that they are not
"Americans", then you should respect that and not put Canadians down for not
wanting to be "Americans".


--
Cheers
Roger T.
See the GER at: -
http://www.islandnet.com/~rogertra/



I thought you guys only got this bored in the winter.
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:25:19 -0700   author:   Roger T.

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:25:19 -0700, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and "Roger T."  instead replied:

>"Twibil" wrote: -
>
>> Us Canadians really object to being called "Americans", as in your
>> header: -
>
>Object all you like: Canada will *still* be located in North America,
>as is the U.S.
>
>---------------------------------------------
>
>This is correct, "North America".  Canadians don't object to "North
>America".
>
>"America" has been stolen by the U.S.A. as the name of their country, which
>is why Canada is not part of "America".  The continent name is "North
>America" not "America".  Why?  See preceeding sentence.
>
>However, why is it that when Canadians object to being called "Americans"
>people like yourself say we are wrong yet if some other country changes
>their name and decides to be called something else, "Mirimar" rather than
>"Burma" for example, or a city says you must now call us "Bejing" instead of
>"Peking" you go along with it?  If Canadians insist that they are not
>"Americans", then you should respect that and not put Canadians down for not
>wanting to be "Americans".

You're still Americans.
--
Ray
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 04:31:58 +0800   author:   Ray Haddad

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
"Ray Haddad"

> You're still Americans

Never.


--
Cheers
Roger T.
See the GER at: -
http://www.islandnet.com/~rogertra/
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:01:50 -0700   author:   Roger T.

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:01:50 -0700, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and "Roger T."  instead replied:

>"Ray Haddad"
>
>> You're still Americans
>
>Never.

Of course you are. You come from the Americas just like El
Salvadorans do. And Brazilians. And Mexicans. Deal.
--
Ray
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:11:05 +0800   author:   Ray Haddad

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 21:25:19 +0100, Roger T. wrote
> 
> However, why is it that when Canadians object to being called "Americans"
> people like yourself say we are wrong yet if some other country changes
> their name and decides to be called something else, "Mirimar" rather than
> "Burma" for example,

Sorry?  "Mirimar"???  Are you *sure* about that?
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:15:17 +0100   author:   Stimpy

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
Roger T. wrote:
> "Twibil" wrote: -
> 
>> Us Canadians really object to being called "Americans", as in your
>> header: -
> 
> Object all you like: Canada will *still* be located in North America,
> as is the U.S.
> 
> ---------------------------------------------
> 
> This is correct, "North America".  Canadians don't object to "North
> America".
> 
> "America" has been stolen by the U.S.A. as the name of their country, which
> is why Canada is not part of "America".  The continent name is "North
> America" not "America".  Why?  See preceeding sentence.
> 
> However, why is it that when Canadians object to being called "Americans"
> people like yourself say we are wrong yet if some other country changes
> their name and decides to be called something else, "Mirimar" rather than
> "Burma" for example, or a city says you must now call us "Bejing" instead of
> "Peking" you go along with it?  

Except people don't. Beijing and Mumbai yes (though we pronounce Beijing 
"wrongly", and I wonder if people actually realise Mumbai is the same 
place as Bombay?), Kolkata maybe, but how about Banglore? Or Pretoria?

Myanmar is particularly complicated because of the politics - if you say 
Burma, you are an evil western colonialist. If you say Myanmar, you are 
an evil propaganda tool of the junta.

Some of the Indian changes aren't quite as simple and universally 
welcomed as, say, replacing the previous name of Theodor Heuss Platz in 
Berlin.

There is no hope of being "correct" in places like Spain or Belgium.

No-one gets upset about Munich or Florence, and the Czechs don't seem to 
have a problem with (perhaps needlessly) feeding names like Carlsbad to 
English speakers, but the Poles get upset when someone gives up on a 
heap of Zs and says Stettin instead.

FYROM, anyone?

> If Canadians insist that they are not
> "Americans", then you should respect that and not put Canadians down for not
> wanting to be "Americans".

If Britons don't want to be considered Europeans, should the rest of the 
world obey?
-- 
Arthur Figgis               Surrey, UK
date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:18:47 +0100   author:   Arthur Figgis lid

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
In message 
, 
Twibil  writes
>On Sep 5, 1:02 pm, "John Turner" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> > He's not selling anything, so he's not "spamming": just offering to
>> > share his pictures with any other model railroaders who might be
>> > interested. If you're *not* interested, just don't go look at the
>> > pictures. Simple, no?
>>
>> Not at all simple - these messages are being cross-posted to other groups
>> including uk.rec.models.rail - this group has a very specific charter
>> limiting posting to topics directly relating to the modelling of UK
>> prototypes.  In that context (and that group is where I for one have read
>> these postings), such off-topic messages are very definitely spam.
>
>Nope, it still ain't "spam", but maybe if you lie down and cry
>yourself to sleep tonight things will look better in the morning.
>
>Get a grip.

He doesn't need to get a grip, you need a prolonged session with a clue 
stick. The term "spam" was actually first used to describe posts across 
multiple Usenet forums, regardless of whether they were for financial 
gain or not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroup_spam

The OP is in fact posting a message promoting his crappy website. 
Promotional messages (aka advertisements) are also regarded as spam.

And before some intellectual midget tries to argue that this response is 
itself cross-posted, it is indeed. However, at least I have enough of a 
clue to reset follow-ups.

-- 
Ed Banger
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:17:02 +0100   author:   Ed Banger

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 11:20:39 -0700 (PDT), Twibil
 said in
:

>He's not selling anything, so he's not "spamming": just offering to
>share his pictures with any other model railroaders who might be
>interested.

Which explains his posting to a group (uk.transport) which has no
known association with railway modelling, yes?

Posting to multiple groups with no substantive content other than
self-promotion is spamming.

Guy
-- 
May contain traces of irony.  Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound
date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:30:13 +0100   author:   Just zis Guy, you know?

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
Twibil  wrote:

> Nope, it still ain't "spam"

Repeating a lie won't make it true. Most children learn that early on. I
suppose the retarded ones still playing with trainsets after others have
grown out of it can be expected to be backwards in other respects.
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:28:21 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
Mike Hughes  wrote:

> A message to all those who've been following my fotopic postings

What, both of them?

Why not fuck off and keep your spam to the toy trains group?
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:28:21 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
> If Britons don't want to be considered Europeans, should the rest of the
> world obey?

Yes.

Calling Canadians "American" is analogous of call the Scots, the Welsh and
the Irish, "English".  And you all know how they feel about that!  :-)


--
Cheers
Roger T.
See the GER at: -
http://www.islandnet.com/~rogertra/
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:44:35 -0700   author:   Roger T.

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Sep 5, 1:25 pm, "Roger T."  wrote:

> Object all you like: Canada will *still* be located in North America,
> as is the U.S.
>
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> This is correct, "North America".  Canadians don't object to "North
> America".

Nobody cares what you object to. Your notions of political correctness
do not concern anyone but the small minority of Canadians who have
nothing better to do with their time than fret about nomenclature that
was put in place over 200 years ago and is not going to change.

> "America" has been stolen by the U.S.A. as the name of their country, which
> is why Canada is not part of "America".  The continent name is "North
> America" not "America".  Why?  See preceeding sentence.

Garbage. To "steal" means to illegally take something from the person
or legal entity that actually owns it. Nobody ever owned the name
"America", and your use of the word "steal" in this context
unwittingly reveals your revisionist intent: I.E. to pretend that the
U.S. took something that rightfully belonged to you in the first place
and that they must therefore be the ogres in your fairy tale.

> However, why is it that when Canadians object to being called "Americans"
> people like yourself say we are wrong yet if some other country changes
> their name and decides to be called something else, "Mirimar" rather than
> "Burma" for example, or a city says you must now call us "Bejing" instead of
> "Peking" you go along with it?

You're perfectly welcome to call yourselves anything you want to, and
should the Canadian government suddenly announce that Montreal will
hense-forth be spelled and pronounced "Whiffleball", we'll happily go
along with the joke.

But that's not the same thing as pretending that you personally speak
for all Canadians and acting as if everyone else should suddenly bow
to your individual wishes. Last I heard, the government of Canada had
not officially announced to the world's press that they will no longer
accept being part of the inclusive term "Americans". (And to put a
little perspective on your claim, can you imagine the Chinese
announcing that they are no longer "Asians"?)

> If Canadians insist that they are not
> "Americans", then you should respect that and not put Canadians down for not
> wanting to be "Americans".

Again you've confused Canada  -the legal entity and government- with
yourself. Look in the mirror. Are you three thousand miles wide, do
you extend to the Arctic ocean in your northern extremities, the
Pacific on your west, the Atlantic on your east, and border the U.S.
on your south? No? Do you contain some 33 million people of widely
varying ethnic and social backgrounds and political views to match?
Not that either?

Do you happen to have any wheat fields, forests, lakes, cities, or
rivers on your immediate person? Still no luck?

Then *you* aren't "Canada". (It's easy for most people to tell the
difference.)

Funny how you -you the *individual*, that is- are so willing to decide
what Americans should do in terms of political correctness, but quite
properly resent it when we do the same to you in in return.

Goose, gander, sauce for.

-Pete
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:53:24 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Twibil

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Sep 5, 2:01 pm, "Roger T."  wrote:

>
> > You're still Americans
>
> Never.

And you're still Earthlings as well. Deal.

-Pete
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:55:22 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Twibil

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
[ groups cut ]

"John Turner" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message 
news:4oOdnStHMeP7DVzVnZ2dnUVZ8tXinZ2d@supernews.com...
>
<snip>
> In that context (and that group is where I for one have read these 
> postings), such off-topic messages are very definitely spam.
>

With the number of cross-posted groups and the off topic nature of the 
massage to at least two of these groups I don't even consider it spam 
anymore, it's out and out trolling, he has been asked to desist but 
hasn't taken the clue, perhaps he might eventually find a clue when 
both his fotopic and ISP accounts get nuked...

FUS
-- 
Wikipedia: the Internet equivalent of
Hyde Park and 'speakers corner'...
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 23:05:51 +0100   author:   Jerry LID

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
In article ,
	Twibil  writes:
> On Sep 5, 2:01 pm, "Roger T."  wrote:
>>
>> > You're still Americans
>>
>> Never.
> And you're still Earthlings as well. Deal.

Like that's something to brag about!!

--
Excuse me, I'll be right back.  I have to log onto a server in Romania 
and verify all of my EBay, PayPal, bank and Social Security information 
before they suspend my accounts.

Working the rockie road of the G&PX
date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:47:00 -0500   author:   (Paul Newhouse)

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
Twibil wrote:
> 
> You're perfectly welcome to call yourselves anything you want to, and
> should the Canadian government suddenly announce that Montreal will
> hense-forth be spelled and pronounced "Whiffleball", we'll happily go
> along with the joke.

  Actually the correct name for Montreal and the rest of Quebec is 
SWAMP. No joke.
date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:10:49 GMT   author:   Brian Smith Halifax\@ NovaScotia.Canada

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Sep 5, 2:17 pm, Ed Banger  wrote:

> He doesn't need to get a grip, you need a prolonged session with a clue
> stick.

Feel free to try. I'm easy to find but I tend to shoot back.

> The term "spam" was actually first used to describe posts across
> multiple Usenet forums, regardless of whether they were for financial
> gain or not.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroup_spam

Uh-huh. And definitions change as time goes by; the protestations of
English teachers and idealogues notwithstanding.

> The OP is in fact posting a message promoting his crappy website.

If you think it's a crappy website, don't go there.

> And before some intellectual midget tries to argue that this response is
> itself cross-posted, it is indeed.

Intellectual midgets are those who waste their limited time in this
life by being net-nannies and trying to control every aspect of their
surroundings: a hopeless task.

As the old saw goes:

"Lord, give me the strength to change the things that I can, the grace
to accept the things I cannot change, and the wisdom to tell the
difference between the first two."
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:09:26 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Twibil

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Sep 5, 2:30 pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote:

> >He's not selling anything, so he's not "spamming": just offering to
> >share his pictures with any other model railroaders who might be
> >interested.
>
> Which explains his posting to a group (uk.transport) which has no
> known association with railway modelling, yes?

Uh, no. He's (A) modelling a form of transportation, and (B) model
railroaders come from all walks of life; including people involved
with transportation. In fact, I know a number of *real* railroaders
who play with trains in their spare time as well, and it's not unlikly
there are a number of such guys in the UK as well.
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:16:28 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Twibil

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Sep 5, 2:28 pm, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:

> > Nope, it still ain't "spam"
>
> Repeating a lie won't make it true. Most children learn that early on. I
> suppose the retarded ones still playing with trainsets after others have
> grown out of it can be expected to be backwards in other respects.

I'm still sitting on that 168 IQ you envy/hate so much, Steve.

But don't feel bad about yourself: *somebody* has to occupy the bottom
end of every bell curve.
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:20:05 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Twibil

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Sep 5, 3:10 pm, Brian Smith <""Halifax\"@ NovaScotia.Canada">
wrote:

>   Actually the correct name for Montreal and the rest of Quebec is
> SWAMP. No joke.

I wouldn't touch that line with a ten-foot seperatist.
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:28:46 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Twibil

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Sep 5, 3:47 pm, newho...@bigbox.wan.vpn (Paul Newhouse) wrote:

> > And you're still Earthlings as well. Deal.
>
> Like that's something to brag about!!

Be it ever so humble...
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:30:10 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Twibil

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
Twibil wrote:
> 
> I wouldn't touch that line with a ten-foot seperatist.

	The phrase you attempted to use is; I wouldn't touch that with a ten 
foot Pole or a five foot Chinaman.
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:56:21 GMT   author:   Brian Smith Halifax\@ NovaScotia.Canada

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Sep 5, 5:56 pm, Brian Smith <""Halifax\"@ NovaScotia.Canada">
wrote:
> Twibil wrote:
>
> > I wouldn't touch that line with a ten-foot seperatist.
>
>         The phrase you attempted to use is; I wouldn't touch that with a ten
> foot Pole or a five foot Chinaman.

Editor: (n.) A form of parasite that feeds from the blood of authors
who knew what they meant to say in the first place. And did so.
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:34:24 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Twibil

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
Twibil wrote:
> 
> Editor: (n.) A form of parasite that feeds from the blood of authors
> who knew what they meant to say in the first place. And did so.

	Go away Twitil.
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 04:14:50 GMT   author:   Brian Smith Halifax\@ NovaScotia.Canada

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
Twibil wrote:
> On Sep 5, 2:30 pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"  wrote:
> 
>>> He's not selling anything, so he's not "spamming": just offering to
>>> share his pictures with any other model railroaders who might be
>>> interested.
>> Which explains his posting to a group (uk.transport) which has no
>> known association with railway modelling, yes?
> 
> Uh, no. He's (A) modelling a form of transportation, and (B) model
> railroaders come from all walks of life; including people involved
> with transportation. In fact, I know a number of *real* railroaders
> who play with trains in their spare time as well, and it's not unlikly
> there are a number of such guys in the UK as well.

Simple fact - this has been posted in parallel to several lists only one of 
which I subscribe to. THEREFORE it is spam.
Personally I would prefer to see newsgroups reject ANYTHING that has multiple 
to addresses. It is simply not acceptable.
The CONTENT is irrelevant in this case. The simple curtsy of posting an 
appropriate message to EACH group would be acceptable and then THIS crap would 
not also be propagated multiple times!

-- 
Lester Caine - G8HFL
-----------------------------
Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact
L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk
EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/
Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk//
Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 06:29:28 +0100   author:   Lester Caine

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
Roger T. wrote:
>> If Britons don't want to be considered Europeans, should the rest of the
>> world obey?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Calling Canadians "American" is analogous of call the Scots, the Welsh and
> the Irish, "English".  And you all know how they feel about that!  :-)
> 
> 
> --
> Cheers
> Roger T.
> See the GER at: -
> http://www.islandnet.com/~rogertra/
> 
> 
Humbled?

;-)

-- 
Moving things in still pictures!
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:01:02 +0100   author:   ®i©ardo

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
Roger T. wrote:
>> If Britons don't want to be considered Europeans, should the rest of the
>> world obey?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Calling Canadians "American" is analogous of call the Scots, the Welsh and
> the Irish, "English".  And you all know how they feel about that!  :-)

It is more like calling nationalists from those places British.

-- 
Arthur Figgis               Surrey, UK
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:52:12 +0100   author:   Arthur Figgis lid

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:44:35 -0700, "Roger T."
 said in
:

>Calling Canadians "American" is analogous of call the Scots, the Welsh and
>the Irish, "English".  And you all know how they feel about that!  :-)

Never ask a man if he is American.  If he is, he will surely tell
you soon enough, and if not, why risk offending?

Guy
-- 
May contain traces of irony.  Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:58:19 +0100   author:   Just zis Guy, you know?

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:44:35 -0700, "Roger T."
>  said in
> :
> 
>> Calling Canadians "American" is analogous of call the Scots, the Welsh and
>> the Irish, "English".  And you all know how they feel about that!  :-)
> 
> Never ask a man if he is American.  If he is, he will surely tell
> you soon enough, and if not, why risk offending?

Not to be confused with a Yorkshireman. If he is, he'll tell you, if he 
isn't, why embarrass him?

-- 
Arthur Figgis
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:11:32 +0100   author:   Arthur Figgis lid

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
In message <j5fwk.486$Dj1.417@trnddc02>, Big_Al  writes
>Mike Hughes wrote:
>> A message to all those who've been following my fotopic postings
>>  As I've now got more that 150 photos on the South Shore part of my
>> fotopic site and over 120 on the 'real' trains part of the site I
>> realise that it is getting a bit more difficult for people to find
>> specific items of interest to them.
>>  Therefore I will shortly be adding new collections and moving some 
>>of
>> the existing photos over to these new collections as and when I find out
>> exactly how to do it (I think I've got it sorted but I have to be
>> certain that I've got it right before I go too far).
>>  Two examples of the kind of collections I hope to create are photos 
>>I've
>> taken of Charlie Fox-Wilson's Broke Brick Mountain and Cliff South's
>> Ashley Danville and Deanstown layouts. It should also make it easier if
>> anyone wants to link to a specific 'theme'.
>>  This should take place by Tuesday or Wednesday next week but in the
>> meantime this is your chance to view the whole of the gallery at
>> http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/
>>  If I get enough time I may also 'rationalise' some of the photos and
>> delete those which are out of date or no longer relevant e.g. older
>> photos of Broke Brick or the AD&D - unless you want me to keep the older
>> photos on my site so that you can see the progress that has been made
>> between photo shoots. Just in case you miss anything follow the link
>> above. The photos are currently viewed as last first so you may want to
>> go to the back photo on the index and then work forward as I will
>> probably delete the older photos first.
>>  I should also have some news for you about a new 'collection' which 
>>will
>> feature my loft layout - if I can remember to take the camera up there!
>>  I have in mind to take photos of the installation of a Lenz 150 DCC 
>>auxiliary (point motor) decoder which will operate up to 6 turnouts at 
>>time. As I'm using this with Tortoise motors it did originally present 
>>me with a few problems which I've managed to solve and which may help 
>>others. Anyone interested in this?
>>
>
>Where were the BC Rail photos taken?
>I see you are in UK but the photos kinda look like Vancouver, BC, Canada.

They were indeed taken in Vancouver by one of my fellow club members. 
I've also got several Canadian photos taken in Winniandy (Grande Cache, 
Alberta) on what was a very unusual day for them - they actually had two 
trains there on one day, one with 6 locos and one with 4.


-- 
Mike Hughes
A Taxi driver licensed for London and Brighton
at home in Tarring, West Sussex, England
Interested in American trains real and model?
Look here http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/
date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 11:21:59 +0100   author:   Mike Hughes

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
"Brian Smith" <""Halifax\"@ NovaScotia.Canada"> wrote in message 
news:_snwk.515$1x6.51@edtnps82...
> Twibil wrote:
>>
>> Editor: (n.) A form of parasite that feeds from the blood of authors
>> who knew what they meant to say in the first place. And did so.
>
> Go away Twitil.

Now children, there'll be tears before bedtime.   ;o)
date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 11:37:21 +0100   author:   Keith W lid

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
As the OP on this one I think I owe some (many?) of you an apology and 
an explanation.

First of let me *apologise* for cross posting. I've been around the net 
long enough that I should know better but was just trying to save time 
(see below)

My fotopic site I referred to has several different types of photos, 
including North American models, UK models, and full size Canadian 
trains.

I chose 4 newsgroups as being ones that would attract like minded 
individuals who *may* be interested in seeing some of my photos (thanks 
to those who took the trouble to let me know by the way) as these are 
amongst the groups that I look at every day.

I have also come to realise by having a 'generalised' set of pictures 
that there would inevitably be some that would not be of interest to 
certain groups. That is why I am now starting to separate the photos 
into more distinct 'collections' that have a more specialised appeal. 
This would mean that in future I would only post to the relevant group 
when I have any new photos.

There was never any intention to 'spam'. I was just trying to save time 
by only making one posting. Again I will apologise if I have upset 
anyone. I am new to this fotopic lark and so I am still finding my feet 
when it comes to these matters. I welcome any *constructive*  criticism 
and advice

I *think* I've managed to remove all but one group to this reply so 
there should no longer be any cross posting.

-- 
Mike Hughes
A Taxi driver licensed for London and Brighton
at home in Tarring, West Sussex, England
Interested in American trains real and model?
Look here http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/
date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 12:04:19 +0100   author:   Mike Hughes

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
Keith W wrote:
> 
> Now children, there'll be tears before bedtime.   ;o) 

	LOL! He started it <vbg>.
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:18:46 GMT   author:   Brian Smith Halifax\@ NovaScotia.Canada

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
Roger T. wrote:
> However, why is it that when Canadians object to being called "Americans"
> people like yourself say we are wrong yet if some other country changes
> their name and decides to be called something else, "Mirimar" rather than
> "Burma" for example, or a city says you must now call us "Bejing" instead of
> "Peking" you go along with it?  

While on holiday in Germany recently, I noticed that posters* referring 
to the Olympic Games still referred to "Peking".  So the Germans don't 
appear immediately to change the names of cities like we seem to do in 
the UK.

I don't understand why we are happy to call some European cities by 
English names (e.g. Swansea v. Abertawe, Venice v. Venezia, Munich v. 
München etc), yet as soon as the name of a city in the rest of the world 
is changed, we seem immediately to change the English name of the city 
to match the new local name.

[obrail] *Some of these posters were at railway stations.
-- 
Jeremy Double  {real address, include nospam}
Rail and transport photos at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmdouble/collections/72157603834894248/
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:55:48 +0100   author:   Jeremy Double

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
As the OP on this one I think I owe some (many?) of you an apology and 
an explanation.

First of let me *apologise* for cross posting. I've been around the net 
long enough that I should know better but was just trying to save time 
(see below)

My fotopic site I referred to has several different types of photos, 
including North American models, UK models, and full size Canadian 
trains.

I chose 4 newsgroups as being ones that would attract like minded 
individuals who *may* be interested in seeing some of my photos (thanks 
to those who took the trouble to let me know by the way) as these are 
amongst the groups that I look at every day.

I have also come to realise by having a 'generalised' set of pictures 
that there would inevitably be some that would not be of interest to 
certain groups. That is why I am now starting to separate the photos 
into more distinct 'collections' that have a more specialised appeal. 
This would mean that in future I would only post to the relevant group 
when I have any new photos.

There was never any intention to 'spam'. I was just trying to save time 
by only making one posting. Again I will apologise if I have upset 
anyone. I am new to this fotopic lark and so I am still finding my feet 
when it comes to these matters. I welcome any *constructive*  criticism 
and advice

I *think* I've managed to remove all but one group to this reply so 
there should no longer be any cross posting.

-- 
Mike Hughes
A Taxi driver licensed for London and Brighton
at home in Tarring, West Sussex, England
Interested in American trains real and model?
Look here http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/
date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 12:03:37 +0100   author:   Mike Hughes

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
As the OP on this one I think I owe some (many?) of you an apology and 
an explanation.

First of let me *apologise* for cross posting. I've been around the net 
long enough that I should know better but was just trying to save time 
(see below)

My fotopic site I referred to has several different types of photos, 
including North American models, UK models, and full size Canadian 
trains.

I chose 4 newsgroups as being ones that would attract like minded 
individuals who *may* be interested in seeing some of my photos (thanks 
to those who took the trouble to let me know by the way) as these are 
amongst the groups that I look at every day.

I have also come to realise by having a 'generalised' set of pictures 
that there would inevitably be some that would not be of interest to 
certain groups. That is why I am now starting to separate the photos 
into more distinct 'collections' that have a more specialised appeal. 
This would mean that in future I would only post to the relevant group 
when I have any new photos.

There was never any intention to 'spam'. I was just trying to save time 
by only making one posting. Again I will apologise if I have upset 
anyone. I am new to this fotopic lark and so I am still finding my feet 
when it comes to these matters. I welcome any *constructive*  criticism 
and advice

I *think* I've managed to remove all but one group to this reply so 
there should no longer be any cross posting.

-- 
Mike Hughes
A Taxi driver licensed for London and Brighton
at home in Tarring, West Sussex, England
Interested in American trains real and model?
Look here http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/
date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 12:06:06 +0100   author:   Mike Hughes

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
Twibil  wrote:

> On Sep 5, 2:28 pm, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> 
> > > Nope, it still ain't "spam"
> >
> > Repeating a lie won't make it true. Most children learn that early on. I
> > suppose the retarded ones still playing with trainsets after others have
> > grown out of it can be expected to be backwards in other respects.
> 
> I'm still sitting on that 168 IQ you envy/hate so much, Steve.

And you've been sitting on it all your life.

> But don't feel bad about yourself: *somebody* has to occupy the bottom
> end of every bell curve.

How is it down there, bozo?
date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:05:02 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:20:05 -0700 (PDT), Twibil
 wrote:

>I'm still sitting on that 168 IQ you envy/hate so much, Steve.

  Alleging all those smarts but still, somehow, insecure enough to
have to mention it.  And jive enough to crosspost as well.

RE
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:54:21 -0500   author:   Random Excess

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:54:21 -0500, Random Excess wrote:

> 
>   Alleging all those smarts but still, somehow, insecure enough to
> have to mention it.  And jive enough to crosspost as well.
> 

According to my newsreader (Pan) it downloaded 47 unread posts this
morning.  After filtering out the crossposted ones, there were 9 left :-).
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:30:47 -0700   author:   Larry Blanchard

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:20:05 -0700 (PDT), Twibil
 wrote:

>I'm still sitting on that 168 IQ you envy/hate so much, Steve.

  Alleging all those smarts but still, somehow, insecure enough to
have to mention it.  And jive enough to crosspost as well.

RE
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:53:26 -0500   author:   Random Excess

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:20:05 -0700 (PDT), Twibil
 wrote:

>I'm still sitting on that 168 IQ you envy/hate so much, Steve.

  Alleging all those smarts but still, somehow, insecure enough to
have to mention it.  And jive enough to crosspost as well.

RE
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:54:48 -0500   author:   Random Excess

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
Random Excess  wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:20:05 -0700 (PDT), Twibil
>  wrote:
> 
> >I'm still sitting on that 168 IQ you envy/hate so much, Steve.
> 
>   Alleging all those smarts but still, somehow, insecure enough to
> have to mention it. 

Umm to mention it often. And to overlook the sad lack of real-world
achievement.
date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 16:32:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
Arthur Figgis wrote:
> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:44:35 -0700, "Roger T."
>>  said in
>> :
>>
>>> Calling Canadians "American" is analogous of call the Scots, the 
>>> Welsh and
>>> the Irish, "English".  And you all know how they feel about that!  :-)
>>
>> Never ask a man if he is American.  If he is, he will surely tell
>> you soon enough, and if not, why risk offending?
> 
> Not to be confused with a Yorkshireman. If he is, he'll tell you, if he 
> isn't, why embarrass him?
> 

You can always tell a Yorkshireman but you can't tell him much.
-- 
Bruce Fletcher
Stronsay, Orkney UK
<http://preview.tinyurl.com/3b54af>
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:44:35 +0100   author:   Bruce Fletcher (remove dentures to reply)

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
"Bruce Fletcher (remove dentures to reply)" wrote:

> You can always tell a Yorkshireman but you can't tell him much.

Thaz reet theer owd luv!  :-)

John.
date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 20:14:13 +0100   author:   John Turner lid

Re: Changes to my fotopic site - advance warning   
In message 
          Jeremy Double  wrote:

> Roger T. wrote:
> > However, why is it that when Canadians object to being called "Americans"
> > people like yourself say we are wrong yet if some other country changes
> > their name and decides to be called something else, "Mirimar" rather than
> > "Burma" for example, or a city says you must now call us "Bejing" instead of
> > "Peking" you go along with it?  
> 
> While on holiday in Germany recently, I noticed that posters* referring 
> to the Olympic Games still referred to "Peking".  So the Germans don't 
> appear immediately to change the names of cities like we seem to do in 
> the UK.
> 
> I don't understand why we are happy to call some European cities by 
> English names (e.g. Swansea v. Abertawe, Venice v. Venezia, Munich v. 
> München etc), yet as soon as the name of a city in the rest of the world 
> is changed, we seem immediately to change the English name of the city 
> to match the new local name.
> 

The Peking/Beijing change is to do with a change in the way Chinese
characters are transliterated into the Western alpahabet rather than a change
by the Chinese themselves.  I'm told the new version bears no relation to
what the locals say!

-- 
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at <http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html>
date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:44:00 +0100   author:   Graeme Wall

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