> True. Fifty thousand gallons of water for the average narrow lock. It
> all comes from the summit level & travels with the boat, so that's
> 100,000 gallons per trip from London to Birmingham. Double that for a
> wide canal. Halve it if boats alternate through locks.
> Then again, that flow could be used as part of a national water grid as
> has been proposed for many years now.

I'm sure I saw an article, years ago, which I've never been able to
find again, which claimed a study in the forties showed there was a
route which would provide lock-free links between Birmingham, London,
Manchester and Liverpool with very limited tunnelling and raising.
Now I find that hard to believe, as London means ~30' asl at most,
while most of the BCN is at 453' asl.  But if anyone knows of it...

ian

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 19:02:53 +0100, "Brimstone"
 wrote:

>Arthur Figgis wrote:
>> Brimstone wrote:
>>> Stimpy wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 08:59:02 +0100, Brimstone wrote
>>>>> There are many people who will try to drag down those who aspire to
>>>>> "something better" and who make the effort. I'd go so far as to say
>>>>> that your grandfather was the exception rather than the rule.
>>>> Given that something like 45% of kids now go to university, as
>>>> against something like 10% 30 years ago, and 2% 60 years ago, it's
>>>> pretty much the rule these days.
>>>
>>> Hence I used the past tense. But the attitude still remains amongst
>>> many people.
>>
>> The attitudes linger in other forms, such as the head of what was
>> alleged to be the UK's second biggest school telling a pupil c.1995
>> that someone who decides to apply to "somewhere like Cambridge" would
>> "have to expect" to be thrown from their bike and kicked in the head.
>>
>>>> The "I'm the first member of my family ever to go to university"
>>>> comment is common enough to be a stereotype (c.f. Neil Kinnock &
>>>> John McCain)
>>>
>>> Quite, and I recall reading in the press fairly recently that a
>>> significant proportion of graduates make no use of their degrees.
>>
>> That is surely highly dependent on the precise meaning of "make use"
>> being used. Is someone who learns to write essays, but then writes
>> business reports rather than discusses ancient history, making use of
>> their degree or not?
>
>That comes under the heading of transfereable skills so they're making use 
>of the skills acquired if not the subject matter thus they're making use of 
>their degree to a limited extent.
>
>You'd be amazed at the number of employers who don't understand the concept 
>of transfereable skills. 
>

Possibly, but the more specialised a skill is usually the less
transferable it is, and the more expensive it has been to aquire it.

Our present economic predicament arises in no small measure from the
fact that for 10 years we had a chancellor of the exchequer who had
trained in law and got a higher degree in "Labour Party Pamphlets of
the 1930's". 

Of course all that reading and writing would indeed be very handy for
a Chancellor of the exchequer, especially with a cabinet full of dolts
like Prescot and blaggers a plenty.

Derek

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Doug wrote:
> Anyone with a fear of flying, or maybe a fear of polluting and wasting
> energy perhaps?
>
Neither. Do you have a point?

"Doug"  wrote in message 
news:d54504c5-4261-4fd1-a9a3-a3c9ec661c43@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Anyone with a fear of flying, or maybe a fear of polluting and wasting
> energy perhaps?

Was that a question, a statement, or what? Or just the ramblings of a 
madman?

If you are trying to extrapolate from what was actually said in your 
referenced article (as you usually do spectacularly incorrectly), then, no, 
the 777 crash has not and will not put people off flying. And any link 
between a plane crash and some pollution-related argument is completely 
bogus.

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 22:49:54 -0700 (PDT), Doug 
wrote:

Snip baby-esque pseudo scientific drivel.

I heard the van's coming to your place to collect 35 kilos of carbon
for sequestration opn Monday.

Do us all a favour and "Dry Up" .

It's charged by the weight.  

Derek

"Doug"  wrote in message 
news:d54504c5-4261-4fd1-a9a3-a3c9ec661c43@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Anyone with a fear of flying, or maybe a fear of polluting and wasting
> energy perhaps?

Fear of flying? Yes, I have that. I'll still fly though as it's convenient 
for me. If you're suggesting I should somehow travel the 7000-odd miles to 
see my family in another way, please suggest it.

Mike P

On 5 Sep, 06:49, Doug  wrote:
> Anyone with a fear of flying, or maybe a fear of polluting and wasting
> energy perhaps?

Flying is one of the safest methods of travel. You are more likely to
get killed cycling from Catford to Heathrow, than you are flying to
Morocco. Even riding a polluting two stroke motorbike around the
desert is probably more dangerous than flying.


> It also wants the aviation industry to ensure that fuel systems can
> cope with the potential build-up and sudden release of ice. The
> findings could result in long-haul flights being made to fly at lower
> altitudes to prevent the build-up of ice crystals inside their fuel
> tanks..."

You seem happy that aircraft may have to fly at a lower altitude,
where the drag is a lot higher, and so the plane has to burn more fuel
to get to its destination, and thus becomes more polluting. Long haul
flights will have to carry less cargo, e.g. less food, which will mean
more flights into Heathrow and Gatwick.