On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:51:12 +0100, "Brian Robertson"
 wrote:


>And public transport so that people like you can't use your grubby, UNEARNED 
>passes to travel about the country on pointless journeys.
If I had my way Brian I would stop every bus pass in the land I don't
agree with them never have and never agreed with our council back in
the sixties dishing out what was it now twenty quid's worth of tokens
that could be used on any form of transport within its own 
boundary's.But until they are stopped I shall continue to use mine I
have paid for it by way of income tax and now by way of council tax
like every one else .God there are people with these passes working
and earning a small fortune each week using them they are a complete
waist of public money .According to good old Mr Brown I like the
hundreds of others am fully entitled to a pass  with which I can
travel from one corner of England to the other for absolutely nothing
I shall continue to use it even though I have a brand new two month
old Vauxhall Meriva standing at the door doing nothing  .   
> Get into an old person's home where you belong.
I am in a home Brian MY home the home that I worked long hours and
double shifts driving buses back in the sixties to buy, tell me Brian
how do you justify Stagecoach giving you AND your family
a free pass to use on all its services ?.

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> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:51:12 +0100, "Brian Robertson"
>  wrote:
>
>
> >And public transport so that people like you can't use your grubby,
UNEARNED
> >passes to travel about the country on pointless journeys.
> If I had my way Brian I would stop every bus pass in the land I don't
> agree with them never have and never agreed with our council back in
> the sixties dishing out what was it now twenty quid's worth of tokens
> that could be used on any form of transport within its own
> boundary's.But until they are stopped I shall continue to use mine I
> have paid for it by way of income tax and now by way of council tax
> like every one else .God there are people with these passes working
> and earning a small fortune each week using them they are a complete
> waist of public money .According to good old Mr Brown I like the
> hundreds of others am fully entitled to a pass

Typical.... Scotsman telling English councils what they must do... and
fund...

 with which I can
> travel from one corner of England to the other for absolutely nothing
> I shall continue to use it even though I have a brand new two month
> old Vauxhall Meriva

Ummm... if it's two months old, it's NOT brand new....

 standing at the door doing nothing  .
> > Get into an old person's home where you belong.
> I am in a home Brian MY home the home that I worked long hours and
> double shifts driving buses back in the sixties to buy, tell me Brian
> how do you justify Stagecoach giving you AND your family
> a free pass to use on all its services ?.

Cheap gimmick. They just don't give the employee time to use it.

:o)

In news:Mzvtk.24384$f%6.13675@newsfe09.ams2,
The Bollenater  typed, for some strange, unexplained 
reason:
:  wrote in message
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[snip]

: > Brian how do you justify Stagecoach giving you AND your family
: > a free pass to use on all its services ?.
:
: Cheap gimmick. They just don't give the employee time to use it.
:
: :o)

Plus it's cheaper than paying decent wages. They know you'll never spend 
20 grand a year on bus fares ;-)

Ivor

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:12:35 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:

>In news:Mzvtk.24384$f%6.13675@newsfe09.ams2,
>The Bollenater  typed, for some strange, unexplained 
>reason:
>:  wrote in message
>: news:nm55b4t63v93i9ja382hpri2r3mbv8udin@4ax.com...
>
>[snip]
>
>: > Brian how do you justify Stagecoach giving you AND your family
>: > a free pass to use on all its services ?.
>:
>: Cheap gimmick. They just don't give the employee time to use it.
>:
>: :o)
>
>Plus it's cheaper than paying decent wages. They know you'll never spend 
>20 grand a year on bus fares ;-)
>
>Ivor
In all of my working live I never worked for what I thought wasn't a
decent wage Ivor . I was told what the wage was BEFORE I accepted the
job if I didn't like it I never accepted the job and it is about time
people who take a job then start asking for more and more money did
the same .
 


 Go to www.buspassheaven.co.uk for lots
 of info that your local issuing councils
 do not inform you about regarding services
 that UK concessionary passes are accepted
 on etc .

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:12:35 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:

>In news:Mzvtk.24384$f%6.13675@newsfe09.ams2,
>The Bollenater  typed, for some strange, unexplained 
>reason:
>:  wrote in message
>: news:nm55b4t63v93i9ja382hpri2r3mbv8udin@4ax.com...
>
>[snip]
>
>: > Brian how do you justify Stagecoach giving you AND your family
>: > a free pass to use on all its services ?.
>:
>: Cheap gimmick. They just don't give the employee time to use it.
>:
>: :o)
>
>Plus it's cheaper than paying decent wages. They know you'll never spend 
>20 grand a year on bus fares ;-)
>
>Ivor
Give over Ivor some people these days would not be satisfied if they
where paid a grand a week .I am in full agreement with bus staff
having a free pass but not with their whole family having one also .
This is similar to what British Rail did but they went a step further
and provided the whole family with free specs and free eye test also. 
 


 Go to www.buspassheaven.co.uk for lots
 of info that your local issuing councils
 do not inform you about regarding services
 that UK concessionary passes are accepted
 on etc .

In news:5ibdb49alqdq9iumfnlbv0gq7h4ov8nt8p@4ax.com,
mymail@hotmail.co.uk  typed, for some strange, 
unexplained reason:

[snip]

: In all of my working live I never worked for what I thought wasn't a
: decent wage Ivor . I was told what the wage was BEFORE I accepted the
: job if I didn't like it I never accepted the job and it is about time
: people who take a job then start asking for more and more money did
: the same .

Not so simple, Ron. Job responsibilities change but the money doesn't 
always change to match. In my current (non-driving) job yes I knew what 
the money was before I started but two and a half years later the workload 
has almost doubled but my money hasn't.

Ivor

In news:3c95d862-981b-4ba7-a106-359fc356acf3@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com,
jeffworsnop  typed, for some strange, 
unexplained reason:

[snip]

: As long as the shareholders are happy with the arrangement whats wrong
: with it?

Because it's the *passengers* that pay for it, not the b****y 
shareholders.

I have always been against the privatisation of what should be a public 
service. We could do a lot worse than take a look over the pond at the way 
the Americans run public transport, particularly school buses, as that was 
mentioned elsewhere.

In San Francisco, all buses, trams and trains are run by the San Francisco 
Municipal Railway, commonly known simply as "Muni" 
http://www.sfmta.com/cms/mhome/home50.htm

They are a public utility, not a private company only concerned with their 
shareholders, and the way they run their system reflects this. For example 
bus drivers are classed as Federal employees and assaulting one carries 
the same penalty as assaulting a police officer.

It'll be a cold day in hell before we see anything like that here.

Ivor

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:02:05 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:


>It'll be a cold day in hell before we see anything like that here.
Hopefully Ivor hopefully if councils and government ever take control
of buses and trains and other services which they once had control of
up will go every item that we are taxed on and also up will go our
council tax .School buses Ivor school buses we didn't know what a
school bus was we either had to use our feet or bikes and if kids had
to do the same today there would not be all the vastly overweight kids
that there are in this country today.
 


 Go to www.buspassheaven.co.uk for lots
 of info that your local issuing councils
 do not inform you about regarding services
 that UK concessionary passes are accepted
 on etc .

In message 
          "Ivor Jones" <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:

> In news:3c95d862-981b-4ba7-a106-359fc356acf3@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com,
> jeffworsnop  typed, for some strange,
> unexplained reason:

> [snip]

>: As long as the shareholders are happy with the arrangement whats wrong
>: with it?

> Because it's the *passengers* that pay for it, not the b****y
> shareholders.

> I have always been against the privatisation of what should be a public
> service. We could do a lot worse than take a look over the pond at the way
> the Americans run public transport, particularly school buses, as that was
> mentioned elsewhere.

> In San Francisco, all buses, trams and trains are run by the San Francisco
> Municipal Railway, commonly known simply as "Muni"
> http://www.sfmta.com/cms/mhome/home50.htm

> They are a public utility, not a private company only concerned with their
> shareholders, and the way they run their system reflects this. For example
> bus drivers are classed as Federal employees and assaulting one carries
> the same penalty as assaulting a police officer.

> It'll be a cold day in hell before we see anything like that here.

> Ivor

We do see it here. It's called "Transport for London". I don't think 
the employees have the same legal protection as policemen, but that's 
not an important issue.

Michael Bell




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