Doug,

A couple of months ago you speculated on this newsgroup that oil would reach 
£200 a barrel by the end of the summer.

I explained to you that it would not, it would rise for only a few weeks 
longer and then start to fall back sharply, and I further explained to you 
that you were a coffin-dodging fuckwitted moron who didn't have the faintest 
grasp of economics.

Now that we have reached the end of the summer, I wonder if you would  care 
to speculate on whose analysis was the more correct?

-- 
Regards, Vince.

Harry Monk's Long Distance Diary   Luton-Huelva

http://trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34657 (New 9th August 2008)

On Aug 24, 1:49 pm, "Knight Of The Road" 
wrote:
> Doug,
>
> A couple of months ago you speculated on this newsgroup that oil would reach
> £200 a barrel by the end of the summer.
>
> I explained to you that it would not, it would rise for only a few weeks
> longer and then start to fall back sharply, and I further explained to you
> that you were a coffin-dodging fuckwitted moron who didn't have the faintest
> grasp of economics.
>
> Now that we have reached the end of the summer, I wonder if you would  care
> to speculate on whose analysis was the more correct?

we had a summer, shit.  I missed it.  What day was it?

Fod

"Fod"  wrote in message 
news:0868784c-c2b0-4572-8bf2-0841841affce@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 24, 1:49 pm, "Knight Of The Road" 
wrote:
> Doug,
>
> A couple of months ago you speculated on this newsgroup that oil would 
> reach
> £200 a barrel by the end of the summer.
>
> I explained to you that it would not, it would rise for only a few weeks
> longer and then start to fall back sharply, and I further explained to you
> that you were a coffin-dodging fuckwitted moron who didn't have the 
> faintest
> grasp of economics.
>
> Now that we have reached the end of the summer, I wonder if you would 
> care
> to speculate on whose analysis was the more correct?

> we had a summer, shit.  I missed it.  What day was it?


It was on a Tuesday morning, back in May.

24, 1:49 pm, "Knight Of The Road" 
> wrote:
>> Doug,
>>
>> A couple of months ago you speculated on this newsgroup that oil would 
>> reach
>> £200 a barrel by the end of the summer.
>>
snip the drivel

If you're SO celver then why are you not a multibillionaire rather than just 
a little truck driver?

Seriously though - hooooray petrol ONLY around £1.10 per litre? blimey how 
things change - a promise of a recession has dampened  demand NOT the stupid 
tossers

"Tommy"  wrote in message 
news:6hdb16FklqtkU1@mid.individual.net...
> 24, 1:49 pm, "Knight Of The Road" 
>> wrote:
>>> Doug,
>>>
>>> A couple of months ago you speculated on this newsgroup that oil would 
>>> reach
>>> £200 a barrel by the end of the summer.
>>>
> snip the drivel
>
> If you're SO celver then why are you not a multibillionaire rather than 
> just a little truck driver?
>
> Seriously though - hooooray petrol ONLY around £1.10 per litre? blimey how 
> things change - a promise of a recession has dampened  demand NOT the 
> stupid tossers
Can you translate that last bit into English please? This is a UK newsgroup.

Mike P

"Tommy"  wrote


> If you're SO celver then why are you not a multibillionaire rather than 
> just a little truck driver?


Because I'm not money orientated. I was however clever enough to sell my 
house last September because I saw the peak of that little bubble too.


-- 
Regards, Vince.

Harry Monk's Long Distance Diary   Luton-Huelva

http://trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34657 (New 9th August 2008)

"Knight Of The Road"  wrote in message 
news:BpGdnSdTkqhG5CzVnZ2dnUVZ8rCdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
>
> "Tommy"  wrote
>
>
>> If you're SO celver then why are you not a multibillionaire rather than 
>> just a little truck driver?
>
>
> Because I'm not money orientated. I was however clever enough to sell my 
> house last September because I saw the peak of that little bubble too.
>
>
> -- 
> Regards, Vince.
>
> Harry Monk's Long Distance Diary   Luton-Huelva
>
> http://trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34657 (New 9th August 2008)
>

Top bloody marks, mate!

Wish I had had the money when I saw such a last chance opportunity. Several 
years ago, Stagecoach shares 12p each. Now pushing £3 each. I said to my 
wife at the time that we should have sold the very clothes off our backs to 
buy the bloody things. If I could have raised 50k I could have abandoned all 
my socialist principles by now and dumped the great unwashed for middle 
class comfort.

God how I hate my ancestors for squandering their wealth and denying me the 
pleasure of drinking their wealth instead! Last time that I visited the 
family business I had to pay £4 to be shown round it!!!!

Brian.

"Mike P"  wrote in message 
news:6hdb5jFkfeb7U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Seriously though - hooooray petrol ONLY around £1.10 per litre? blimey 
>> how things change - a promise of a recession has dampened  demand NOT the 
>> stupid tossers
> Can you translate that last bit into English please? This is a UK 
> newsgroup.
>
> Mike P

Sadly If you look again itis english  (as she is spoke:)

Don't blame me if you are slightly stupid - maybe If you'd worked harder 
...............................
>

On Aug 25, 10:42 am, "Tommy"  wrote:
> "Mike P"  wrote in message
>
> news:6hdb5jFkfeb7U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> >> Seriously though - hooooray petrol ONLY around £1.10 per litre? blimey
> >> how things change - a promise of a recession has dampened  demand NOT the
> >> stupid tossers
> > Can you translate that last bit into English please? This is a UK
> > newsgroup.
>
> > Mike P
>
> Sadly If you look again itis english  (as she is spoke:)

Sadly would really be the case.

You are partially right in that the promise of a recession has
impacted on the behavior of the speculators.

> Don't blame me if you are slightly stupid - maybe If you'd worked harder

He could be really stupid like yourself?

Fod

On Aug 24, 11:02 pm, "Brian Robertson"  wrote:
> "Knight Of The Road"  wrote in messagenews:BpGdnSdTkqhG5CzVnZ2dnUVZ8rCdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Tommy"  wrote
>
> >> If you're SO celver then why are you not a multibillionaire rather than
> >> just a little truck driver?
>
> > Because I'm not money orientated. I was however clever enough to sell my
> > house last September because I saw the peak of that little bubble too.
>
> > --
> > Regards, Vince.
>
> > Harry Monk's Long Distance Diary   Luton-Huelva
>
> >http://trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34657(New 9th August 2008> Top bloody marks, mate!
>
> Wish I had had the money when I saw such a last chance opportunity. Several
> years ago, Stagecoach shares 12p each. Now pushing £3 each. I said to my
> wife at the time that we should have sold the very clothes off our backs to
> buy the bloody things. If I could have raised 50k I could have abandoned all
> my socialist principles by now and dumped the great unwashed for middle
> class comfort.
>
> God how I hate my ancestors for squandering their wealth and denying me the
> pleasure of drinking their wealth instead! Last time that I visited the
> family business I had to pay £4 to be shown round it!!!!
>

You are a man of many contradictions Brian.

If I'd only joined the second company I ever worked for but a couple
of years earlier I'd have been able to retire :p

Fod

"Brian Robertson"  wrote in message 
news:eUksk.23995$3s.20604@newsfe10.ams2...
> "Knight Of The Road"  wrote in message 
> news:BpGdnSdTkqhG5CzVnZ2dnUVZ8rCdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>>
>> "Tommy"  wrote
>>
>>
>>> If you're SO celver then why are you not a multibillionaire rather than 
>>> just a little truck driver?
>>
>>
>> Because I'm not money orientated. I was however clever enough to sell my 
>> house last September because I saw the peak of that little bubble too.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Regards, Vince.
>>
>> Harry Monk's Long Distance Diary   Luton-Huelva
>>
>> http://trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34657 (New 9th August 2008)
>>
>
> Top bloody marks, mate!
>
> Wish I had had the money when I saw such a last chance opportunity. 
> Several years ago, Stagecoach shares 12p each. Now pushing £3 each. I said 
> to my wife at the time that we should have sold the very clothes off our 
> backs to buy the bloody things. If I could have raised 50k I could have 
> abandoned all my socialist principles by now and dumped the great unwashed 
> for middle class comfort.
>
> God how I hate my ancestors for squandering their wealth and denying me 
> the pleasure of drinking their wealth instead! Last time that I visited 
> the family business I had to pay £4 to be shown round it!!!!

You're just one of lifes losers. I'd have thought you'd be used to it by 
now.

On 24 Aug, 13:49, "Knight Of The Road" 
wrote:
> Doug,
>
> A couple of months ago you speculated on this newsgroup that oil would reach
> £200 a barrel by the end of the summer.
>
> I explained to you that it would not, it would rise for only a few weeks
> longer and then start to fall back sharply, and I further explained to you
> that you were a coffin-dodging fuckwitted moron who didn't have the faintest
> grasp of economics.
>
> Now that we have reached the end of the summer, I wonder if you would  care
> to speculate on whose analysis was the more correct?
>
You are quite wrong, as usual. No surprise there .As I recall it was
OPEC who made that prediction, not me. I am just glad that petrol
prices are considerably higher than they were two or three years ago
and just hope they will continue to increase to a more realistic level
before finally flattening out.

--
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Doug  wrote:

> You are quite wrong, as usual.

No he's not. But you're attempting to weasel out, again.

No surprise there

"Doug"  wrote in message 
news:0bca4b07-dfbb-481b-8cad-7846b40d70ab@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On 24 Aug, 13:49, "Knight Of The Road" 
wrote:
...
>> A couple of months ago you speculated on this newsgroup that oil would 
>> reach
>> £200 a barrel by the end of the summer.
...
> You are quite wrong, as usual. No surprise there .As I recall it was
> OPEC who made that prediction, not me.

As I recall, you simply stated it was going to happen, without giving a 
source, In any case, from the way you presented it, it would not be 
unreasonable to assume you endorsed the prediction, even if you did not make 
it.. However, As I pointed out at the time, most industry experst were 
predicting a fall to $110 a barrel by the end of September. They didn't know 
of the problems in Georgia at the time, nor of the tropial storms now 
threatening the Gulf of Mexico, which havw slowed down the drop, but it 
still looks as though they will be proved right. The same experts are also 
predicting the price will be down to $50-$70 a barrel by Christmas.

Colin Bignell

On 26 Aug, 01:28, "nightjar" <cpb@<insert my surname here>.me.uk>
wrote:
> "Doug"  wrote in message
>
> news:0bca4b07-dfbb-481b-8cad-7846b40d70ab@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On 24 Aug, 13:49, "Knight Of The Road" 
> wrote:
> ...
>
> >> A couple of months ago you speculated on this newsgroup that oil would
> >> reach
> >> £200 a barrel by the end of the summer.
> ...
> > You are quite wrong, as usual. No surprise there .As I recall it was
> > OPEC who made that prediction, not me.
>
> As I recall, you simply stated it was going to happen, without giving a
> source,
>
You recall wrong. Fod started the thread 'Oil will soar to $200 a
barrol' and I merely commented:
--------------------------
>How much
> has it got to go to, before you get up and do something?

My guess is only when it starts to severely restrict car journeys.
Given the widespread addiction to the car this is not likely to be for
some time yet. Addicts are notorious for sacrificing everything in
their life just to keep their habit going.

------------------------

You see how wrong the self-obsessed motorists who dominate this
transport newsgroup can be?

>
> In any case, from the way you presented it, it would not be
> unreasonable to assume you endorsed the prediction, even if you did not make
> it.. However, As I pointed out at the time, most industry experst were
> predicting a fall to $110 a barrel by the end of September. They didn't know
> of the problems in Georgia at the time, nor of the tropial storms now
> threatening the Gulf of Mexico, which havw slowed down the drop, but it
> still looks as though they will be proved right. The same experts are also
> predicting the price will be down to $50-$70 a barrel by Christmas.
>
Whatever. The reality is that oil is considerably more expensive than
it used to be and therefore costs motorists more, which is not a bad
thing given their hypermobility, perpetual roadbuilding and general
blight on society and the environment.

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"Doug"  wrote in message 
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...
> Whatever. The reality is that oil is considerably more expensive than
> it used to be and therefore costs motorists more,

The reality is that, by Christmas, it probably will be back to the levels of 
last year..

Colin Bignell.

On 26 Aug, 08:30, "nightjar" <cpb@<insert my surname here>.me.uk>
wrote:
> "Doug"  wrote in message
>
> news:6fda747a-3352-4371-839a-34a151f1fbc7@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> ...
>
> > Whatever. The reality is that oil is considerably more expensive than
> > it used to be and therefore costs motorists more,
>
> The reality is that, by Christmas, it probably will be back to the levels of
> last year..
>
Or:

"Oil companies won't be building more refineries, because there won't
be enough oil left to refine by the time new refineries could pay for
themselves.
There hasn't been a new refinery built in the US since 1976. In 1982,
there were 301 operable refineries in the U.S and they produced about
17.9 million barrels of oil per day. Today there are only 149
refineries, and they're producing 17.4 million barrels. This increase
in efficiency is impressive but not a miracle. As with everything
these outputs are carefully calculated to optimize profitability. Let
me explain.
Truth be told, new refineries require tremendous financial commitments
which take anywhere from 15 to 25 years to amortize. With record oil
prices it would make perfect sense to invest in a few refineries
today, except... for the lack of oil to be refined 20 years from now.
Trends have predicted that peak oil production, where the production
of oil starts to decline, will be reached around 2007-2010. After
that, there will be less and less oil to refine no matter where
drillers look. In this context, building expensive new refineries does
not make a lot of sense as existing ones will be sufficient to process
whatever little oil is left. So forget about new refineries, except
for a few in the northern midwest to process the heavy oil from
Canada."

One thing is for sure though, if you motorists go on wasting oil on
your frivolous hypermobility peak oil will be passed sooner rather
than later.

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Doug  wrote:

> Whatever. 

Translation: You were right, Duhg was wrong, this is the closest he will
get to apologising.

Doug  wrote:

> "Oil companies

Yet another unattributed quote.

"Doug"  wrote in message 
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> On 26 Aug, 08:30, "nightjar" <cpb@<insert my surname here>.me.uk>
> wrote:
>> "Doug"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:6fda747a-3352-4371-839a-34a151f1fbc7@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> ...
>>
>> > Whatever. The reality is that oil is considerably more expensive than
>> > it used to be and therefore costs motorists more,
>>
>> The reality is that, by Christmas, it probably will be back to the levels 
>> of
>> last year..
>>
> Or:
>
> "Oil companies  <blah, blah, blah> heavy oil from Canada."

Is the fact that this is in quotes meant to mean something, or have you just 
made it up?

"Doug"  wrote in message 
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> On 26 Aug, 08:30, "nightjar" <cpb@<insert my surname here>.me.uk>
> wrote:
>> "Doug"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:6fda747a-3352-4371-839a-34a151f1fbc7@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> ...
>>
>> > Whatever. The reality is that oil is considerably more expensive than
>> > it used to be and therefore costs motorists more,
>>
>> The reality is that, by Christmas, it probably will be back to the levels 
>> of
>> last year..
>>
> Or:
>
> "Oil companies won't be building more refineries, because there won't
> be enough oil left to refine by the time new refineries could pay for
> themselves....

The only reasons to build a new refinery are the discovery of a substantial 
deposits of a different type of oil from that the existing ones are designed 
to handle or a huge increase in demand that existing refineries cannot cope 
with. A good example of the former was North Sea oil, which is full of light 
fractions. British refineries of the time were designed for Middle East oil, 
which is a much heavier oil, so we needed to build new refineries. With 
current proven oil reserves being sufficient for a 2 or 3 centuries, the 
argument that oil will run out before any new refineries pay for themselves 
is obvious rubbish. However, what can be expected from an unnamed author who 
still believes in peak oil? As has been pointed out to you on numerous 
occasions, the theory of peak oil was based upon the assumption that 
accessible oil reserves were fixed, which was a good approximation up to the 
early 1970s. However, it has repeatedly been shown to be an erroneous 
assumption in the years since then, most recently in the past few months 
when oil prices made sources like tar sands and oil shale viable sources of 
oil.

Colin Bignell

On 24 Aug, 15:56, "Mike P"  wrote:
> "Tommy"  wrote in message
>
> news:6hdb16FklqtkU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
>
> > 24, 1:49 pm, "Knight Of The Road" 
> >> wrote:
> >>> Doug,
>
> >>> A couple of months ago you speculated on this newsgroup that oil would
> >>> reach
> >>> £200 a barrel by the end of the summer.
>
> > snip the drivel
>
> > If you're SO celver then why are you not a multibillionaire rather than
> > just a little truck driver?
>
> > Seriously though - hooooray petrol ONLY around £1.10 per litre? blimey how
> > things change - a promise of a recession has dampened  demand NOT the
> > stupid tossers
>
> Can you translate that last bit into English please? This is a UK newsgroup.

Ah, you've encountered Toomy (aka Toomtard) for the first time.  He is
a drooling retard who makes Doug Bollen look intelligent.  Don't
expect anything he says to make sense.

"Conor"  wrote


> You are aware that the reason your gas and electric bills are rising by
> up to 30% this year is the link to crude prices?



I must just correct you here. Doug doesn't drive, so fuel price rises hardly 
affect him at all. He told us so, remember?



-- 
Regards, Vince.

Harry Monk's Long Distance Diary   Luton-Huelva

http://trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34657 (New 9th August 2008)

On 27 Aug, 18:00, "Knight Of The Road" 
wrote:
> "Conor"  wrote
>
> > You are aware that the reason your gas and electric bills are rising by
> > up to 30% this year is the link to crude prices?
>
> I must just correct you here. Doug doesn't drive, so fuel price rises hardly
> affect him at all. He told us so, remember?
>
Wrong as usual. The reason I am virtually unaffected is that my
overall energy consumption has become so low that these increases are
hardly noticed at all.

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Doug wrote:
> On 27 Aug, 18:00, "Knight Of The Road" 
> wrote:
>> "Conor"  wrote
>>
>>> You are aware that the reason your gas and electric bills are
>>> rising by up to 30% this year is the link to crude prices?
>>
>> I must just correct you here. Doug doesn't drive, so fuel price
>> rises hardly affect him at all. He told us so, remember?
>>
> Wrong as usual. The reason I am virtually unaffected is that my
> overall energy consumption has become so low that these increases are
> hardly noticed at all.

Another demonstration of Doug's lack of understnading.

Doug wrote:
> On 27 Aug, 18:00, "Knight Of The Road" 
> wrote:
>> "Conor"  wrote
>>
>>> You are aware that the reason your gas and electric bills are rising by
>>> up to 30% this year is the link to crude prices?
>> I must just correct you here. Doug doesn't drive, so fuel price rises hardly
>> affect him at all. He told us so, remember?
>>
> Wrong as usual. The reason I am virtually unaffected is that my
> overall energy consumption has become so low that these increases are
> hardly noticed at all.
> 
> --
> World Carfree Network
> http://www.worldcarfree.net/
> Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.
> 

Whoops, there go those goalposts again.
Oh Doug can you explain why oil prices going up only affects energy bills?

-- 
Tony the Dragon

Doug  wrote:

> The reason I am virtually unaffected is that my overall energy consumption
> has become so low that these increases are hardly noticed at all.

So you've failed to notice the runaway inflation in food prices? How
odd.

Your claims about your energy usage are of course bollocks.

"Doug"  wrote



You are quite wrong, as usual. No surprise there .As I recall it was
OPEC who made that prediction, not me.


And you referred to that prediction indicating that it was your hope and 
belief too. After all if not then why would you repeat it here?




I am just glad that petrol
prices are considerably higher than they were two or three years ago
and just hope they will continue to increase to a more realistic level
before finally flattening out.




Well, in that case then I hope that more OAPs suffer "fuel poverty".





I drive a car and an articulated lorry not because I am an "addict" Doug, 
but because even puerile, monomaniacal, Catford slum-dwelling 
benefit-claimants need to eat.



-- 
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http://trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34657 (New 9th August 2008)

On 27 Aug, 19:00, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> Doug  wrote:
> > The reason I am virtually unaffected is that my overall energy consumption
> > has become so low that these increases are hardly noticed at all.
>
> So you've failed to notice the runaway inflation in food prices? How
> odd.
>
Of course not, but because I do not eat expensive animal products my
food bills are always very low anyway.
>
> Your claims about your energy usage are of course bollocks.
>
Liar.

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On 27 Aug, 20:18, "Knight Of The Road" 
wrote:
> "Doug"  wrote
>
> You are quite wrong, as usual. No surprise there .As I recall it was
> OPEC who made that prediction, not me.
>
> And you referred to that prediction indicating that it was your hope and
> belief too. After all if not then why would you repeat it here?
>
> I am just glad that petrol
> prices are considerably higher than they were two or three years ago
> and just hope they will continue to increase to a more realistic level
> before finally flattening out.
>
> Well, in that case then I hope that more OAPs suffer "fuel poverty".
>
How very nasty of you but quite typical though. What happened to your
unmarked quote?
>
> I drive a car and an articulated lorry not because I am an "addict" Doug,
> but because even puerile, monomaniacal, Catford slum-dwelling
> benefit-claimants need to eat.
>

I don't know about the Catford residents you mention but speaking for
myself, who lives elsewhere, I have no problem eating and find that UK
food has always been very cheap, probably because of the massive
public hand-outs given to our farmers. Also, my dietary avoidance of
expensive animal products does allow considerable savings on food
bills.

I am sorry you appear to be suffering from the credit crunch and high
fuel costs but surely that is a very good reason to modify your
lifestyle, particularly the car dependency aspect.

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Doug wrote:

> I don't know about the Catford residents you mention but speaking for
> myself, who lives elsewhere,

Liar.

> I have no problem eating and find that UK
> food has always been very cheap, probably because of the massive
> public hand-outs given to our farmers.

Evidence of these "massive public hand-outs given to our farmers" please.

> Also, my dietary avoidance of
> expensive animal products does allow considerable savings on food
> bills.
>
> I am sorry you appear to be suffering from the credit crunch and high
> fuel costs but surely that is a very good reason to modify your
> lifestyle, particularly the car dependency aspect.

But then you wouldn't eat.

On the other hand....

Vince, have you thought about changing jobs?

On Aug 28, 7:40 am, Doug  wrote:
> I am sorry you appear to be suffering from the credit crunch and high
> fuel costs but surely that is a very good reason to modify your
> lifestyle, particularly the car dependency aspect.
>

the next day Doug wondered why tesco only had empty shelves and no
lentils from far off places....

Whats going on he cried out, where is the food.

Seems the truckers have all quit he was told.  And without trucks...

Gulp said Doug... suddenly wishing people had gone on ignoring him
rather than listen to his simplistic and foolish views.

Fod

On Aug 28, 7:32 am, Doug  wrote:
> On 27 Aug, 19:00, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:> Doug  wrote:
> > > The reason I am virtually unaffected is that my overall energy consumption
> > > has become so low that these increases are hardly noticed at all.
>
> > So you've failed to notice the runaway inflation in food prices? How
> > odd.
>
> Of course not, but because I do not eat expensive animal products my
> food bills are always very low anyway.

Funny that.  You were claiming recently that crop prices had shot
up...
Its amazing the way your views and claims come full circle if we wait
long enough.

For a vegan you seem to be quite interested in meat prices.  Do you
spend time fantasizing in tesco's meat counter?

Given you can't drive and watch a lot of motoring programs on TV while
being bitter about other drivers it seems likely you were forced to
stop driving.  Now it sounds like you were forced onto the tofu diet.
Some medical complaint give you a hard time digesting meat?

Normally people are vegan due to a love for animals but after your
violence to mice and threats of violence to dogs I'm pretty skeptical
about that.


Fod

Doug  wrote:

> On 27 Aug, 19:00, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> > Doug  wrote:
> > > The reason I am virtually unaffected is that my overall energy consumption
> > > has become so low that these increases are hardly noticed at all.
> >
> > So you've failed to notice the runaway inflation in food prices? How
> > odd.
> >
> Of course not, but because I do not eat expensive animal products my
> food bills are always very low anyway.

The biggest rises in food prices have been the prices of grain, pulses
and fresh vegetables. So you're lying, again.

> > Your claims about your energy usage are of course bollocks.
> >
> Liar.

Indeed you are, Mr Four Computers, solitary wasteful lifestyle, energy
purchased from the very people you protest against hypocritical liar
Bollen.

On 28 Aug, 11:27, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> Doug  wrote:
> > On 27 Aug, 19:00, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> > > Doug  wrote:
> > > > The reason I am virtually unaffected is that my overall energy consumption
> > > > has become so low that these increases are hardly noticed at all.
>
> > > So you've failed to notice the runaway inflation in food prices? How
> > > odd.
>
> > Of course not, but because I do not eat expensive animal products my
> > food bills are always very low anyway.
>
> The biggest rises in food prices have been the prices of grain, pulses
> and fresh vegetables. So you're lying, again.
>
> > > Your claims about your energy usage are of course bollocks.
>
> > Liar.
>
> Indeed you are, Mr Four Computers, solitary wasteful lifestyle, energy
> purchased from the very people you protest against hypocritical liar
> Bollen.

What you fail to understand is that Gollum's house is remarkable, nay
unique amongst houses of that age, in requiring virtually no energy to
heat the rooms, water, cook food etc.

BrianW wrote:
> On 28 Aug, 11:27, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
>> Doug  wrote:
>>> On 27 Aug, 19:00, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
>>>> Doug  wrote:
>>>>> The reason I am virtually unaffected is that my overall energy
>>>>> consumption has become so low that these increases are hardly
>>>>> noticed at all.
>>
>>>> So you've failed to notice the runaway inflation in food prices?
>>>> How odd.
>>
>>> Of course not, but because I do not eat expensive animal products my
>>> food bills are always very low anyway.
>>
>> The biggest rises in food prices have been the prices of grain,
>> pulses and fresh vegetables. So you're lying, again.
>>
>>>> Your claims about your energy usage are of course bollocks.
>>
>>> Liar.
>>
>> Indeed you are, Mr Four Computers, solitary wasteful lifestyle,
>> energy purchased from the very people you protest against
>> hypocritical liar Bollen.
>
> What you fail to understand is that Gollum's house is remarkable, nay
> unique amongst houses of that age, in requiring virtually no energy to
> heat the rooms, water, cook food etc.

With respect, it's you who doesn't understand Doug's lifestyle.

So virtuous a life does Doug strice to lead that he doesn't heat his house 
(he merely dons another garment (I nearly said a "woolly pully" but realised 
that would mean an animal product) if it get chilly. On the odd occasion 
that he washes (which he does infrequently to avoid pollution) he uses cold 
water and, being a veggie, he eats all his food raw to get the best from it.

On 28 Aug, 11:59, "Brimstone"  wrote:
> BrianW wrote:
> > On 28 Aug, 11:27, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> >> Doug  wrote:
> >>> On 27 Aug, 19:00, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> >>>> Doug  wrote:
> >>>>> The reason I am virtually unaffected is that my overall energy
> >>>>> consumption has become so low that these increases are hardly
> >>>>> noticed at all.
>
> >>>> So you've failed to notice the runaway inflation in food prices?
> >>>> How odd.
>
> >>> Of course not, but because I do not eat expensive animal products my
> >>> food bills are always very low anyway.
>
> >> The biggest rises in food prices have been the prices of grain,
> >> pulses and fresh vegetables. So you're lying, again.
>
> >>>> Your claims about your energy usage are of course bollocks.
>
> >>> Liar.
>
> >> Indeed you are, Mr Four Computers, solitary wasteful lifestyle,
> >> energy purchased from the very people you protest against
> >> hypocritical liar Bollen.
>
> > What you fail to understand is that Gollum's house is remarkable, nay
> > unique amongst houses of that age, in requiring virtually no energy to
> > heat the rooms, water, cook food etc.
>
> With respect, it's you who doesn't understand Doug's lifestyle.
>
> So virtuous a life does Doug strice to lead that he doesn't heat his house
> (he merely dons another garment (I nearly said a "woolly pully" but realised
> that would mean an animal product) if it get chilly. On the odd occasion
> that he washes (which he does infrequently to avoid pollution) he uses cold
> water and, being a veggie, he eats all his food raw to get the best from it.-

I am duly admonished.  Sorry for doubting you, Gollum!

On 28 Aug, 13:49, BrianW  wrote:
> On 28 Aug, 11:59, "Brimstone"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > BrianW wrote:
> > > On 28 Aug, 11:27, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> > >> Doug  wrote:
> > >>> On 27 Aug, 19:00, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> > >>>> Doug  wrote:
> > >>>>> The reason I am virtually unaffected is that my overall energy
> > >>>>> consumption has become so low that these increases are hardly
> > >>>>> noticed at all.
>
> > >>>> So you've failed to notice the runaway inflation in food prices?
> > >>>> How odd.
>
> > >>> Of course not, but because I do not eat expensive animal products my
> > >>> food bills are always very low anyway.
>
> > >> The biggest rises in food prices have been the prices of grain,
> > >> pulses and fresh vegetables. So you're lying, again.
>
> > >>>> Your claims about your energy usage are of course bollocks.
>
> > >>> Liar.
>
> > >> Indeed you are, Mr Four Computers, solitary wasteful lifestyle,
> > >> energy purchased from the very people you protest against
> > >> hypocritical liar Bollen.
>
> > > What you fail to understand is that Gollum's house is remarkable, nay
> > > unique amongst houses of that age, in requiring virtually no energy to
> > > heat the rooms, water, cook food etc.
>
> > With respect, it's you who doesn't understand Doug's lifestyle.
>
> > So virtuous a life does Doug strice to lead that he doesn't heat his house
> > (he merely dons another garment (I nearly said a "woolly pully" but realised
> > that would mean an animal product) if it get chilly. On the odd occasion
> > that he washes (which he does infrequently to avoid pollution) he uses cold
> > water and, being a veggie, he eats all his food raw to get the best from it.-
>
> I am duly admonished.  Sorry for doubting you, Gollum!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I will forgive you this time, but try to keep up.

Doug

World FreeCar Network
http://www.worldfreecar.net/
Help for your cycle-addicted friends in the U.K.

On 28 Aug, 09:54, Fod  wrote:
> On Aug 28, 7:40 am, Doug  wrote:
>
> > I am sorry you appear to be suffering from the credit crunch and high
> > fuel costs but surely that is a very good reason to modify your
> > lifestyle, particularly the car dependency aspect.
>
> the next day Doug wondered why tesco only had empty shelves and no
> lentils from far off places....
>
> Whats going on he cried out, where is the food.
>
> Seems the truckers have all quit he was told.  And without trucks...
>
> Gulp said Doug... suddenly wishing people had gone on ignoring him
> rather than listen to his simplistic and foolish views.
>
There is no requirement for truckers to also be motorists and I
suspect that many are not since they spend so much time in their cabs,
or at most they are very infrequent motorists.

Just because Vince has made himself utterly car dependent doesn't
meant that others have too nor does it mean that I am dependent on
motorists for my food. Long before the car was ever dreamed of food
was transported.

--
World Carfree Network
http://www.worldcarfree.net/
Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.

On 29 Aug, 07:45, Doug  wrote:
> On 28 Aug, 09:54, Fod  wrote:
>
> > On Aug 28, 7:40 am, Doug  wrote:
>
> > > I am sorry you appear to be suffering from the credit crunch and high
> > > fuel costs but surely that is a very good reason to modify your
> > > lifestyle, particularly the car dependency aspect.
>
> > the next day Doug wondered why tesco only had empty shelves and no
> > lentils from far off places....
>
> > Whats going on he cried out, where is the food.
>
> > Seems the truckers have all quit he was told.  And without trucks...
>
> > Gulp said Doug... suddenly wishing people had gone on ignoring him
> > rather than listen to his simplistic and foolish views.
>
> There is no requirement for truckers to also be motorists
You seem to have a different definition of the word motorists from the
rest of the world.
Trucks do have engines you know...

and I
> suspect that many are not since they spend so much time in their cabs,
> or at most they are very infrequent motorists.

Someone once claimed they could show how a trucker could avoid having
to drive to work ( which most of them do).
Sadly that someone failed to put up and had to instead shut up...

> Just because Vince has made himself utterly car dependent doesn't
> meant that others have too nor does it mean that I am dependent on
> motorists for my food. Long before the car was ever dreamed of food
> was transported.

Oh wait.  He's no longer shutting up.  Does that mean we're going to
see that report?
Or are you hoping that we'll stop pointing out the major flaw in your
stated plan?

Rember that food transport by horse caused a lot of deaths...

Fod

Doug wrote:
> On 28 Aug, 09:54, Fod  wrote:
>> On Aug 28, 7:40 am, Doug  wrote:
>>
>>> I am sorry you appear to be suffering from the credit crunch and high
>>> fuel costs but surely that is a very good reason to modify your
>>> lifestyle, particularly the car dependency aspect.
>> the next day Doug wondered why tesco only had empty shelves and no
>> lentils from far off places....
>>
>> Whats going on he cried out, where is the food.
>>
>> Seems the truckers have all quit he was told.  And without trucks...
>>
>> Gulp said Doug... suddenly wishing people had gone on ignoring him
>> rather than listen to his simplistic and foolish views.
>>
> There is no requirement for truckers to also be motorists and I
> suspect that many are not since they spend so much time in their cabs,
> or at most they are very infrequent motorists.
> 
> Just because Vince has made himself utterly car dependent doesn't
> meant that others have too nor does it mean that I am dependent on
> motorists for my food. Long before the car was ever dreamed of food
> was transported.
> 
> --
> World Carfree Network
> http://www.worldcarfree.net/
> Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.

The food you're eating is that old!

-- 
Tony the Dragon

Fod wrote:
> On 29 Aug, 07:45, Doug  wrote:
>> On 28 Aug, 09:54, Fod  wrote:
>>
>>> On Aug 28, 7:40 am, Doug  wrote:
>>
>>>> I am sorry you appear to be suffering from the credit crunch and
>>>> high fuel costs but surely that is a very good reason to modify
>>>> your lifestyle, particularly the car dependency aspect.
>>
>>> the next day Doug wondered why tesco only had empty shelves and no
>>> lentils from far off places....
>>
>>> Whats going on he cried out, where is the food.
>>
>>> Seems the truckers have all quit he was told.  And without trucks...
>>
>>> Gulp said Doug... suddenly wishing people had gone on ignoring him
>>> rather than listen to his simplistic and foolish views.
>>
>> There is no requirement for truckers to also be motorists
> You seem to have a different definition of the word motorists from the
> rest of the world.
> Trucks do have engines you know...
>
> and I
>> suspect that many are not since they spend so much time in their
>> cabs, or at most they are very infrequent motorists.
>
> Someone once claimed they could show how a trucker could avoid having
> to drive to work ( which most of them do).
> Sadly that someone failed to put up and had to instead shut up...
>
>> Just because Vince has made himself utterly car dependent doesn't
>> meant that others have too nor does it mean that I am dependent on
>> motorists for my food. Long before the car was ever dreamed of food
>> was transported.
>
> Oh wait.  He's no longer shutting up.  Does that mean we're going to
> see that report?
> Or are you hoping that we'll stop pointing out the major flaw in your
> stated plan?
>
> Rember that food transport by horse caused a lot of deaths...
>
And involved the use of "slave animals".

On 29 Aug, 07:45, Doug  wrote:
> On 28 Aug, 09:54, Fod  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 28, 7:40 am, Doug  wrote:
>
> > > I am sorry you appear to be suffering from the credit crunch and high
> > > fuel costs but surely that is a very good reason to modify your
> > > lifestyle, particularly the car dependency aspect.
>
> > the next day Doug wondered why tesco only had empty shelves and no
> > lentils from far off places....
>
> > Whats going on he cried out, where is the food.
>
> > Seems the truckers have all quit he was told.  And without trucks...
>
> > Gulp said Doug... suddenly wishing people had gone on ignoring him
> > rather than listen to his simplistic and foolish views.
>
> There is no requirement for truckers to also be motorists and I
> suspect that many are not since they spend so much time in their cabs,
> or at most they are very infrequent motorists.

Vince, Conor and other truck drivers - how many of your truck driver
colleagues are not also motorists?

On Aug 29, 7:48 am, Fod  wrote:
> On 29 Aug, 07:45, Doug  wrote:
> > There is no requirement for truckers to also be motorists
> You seem to have a different definition of the word motorists from the
> rest of the world.

I stand corrected on this.  Several online sources list motorist as
being a car driver only.
( awaits Doug missing this correction and wetting himself over someone
else making a mistake)

I would be rather surprised if there were many, if any, truckers that
were not also motorists.

The reasons for this statement would be based on Vince and Conors
description of their difficulty in getting to their place of work
without using a car.  ( with the hours being anti social and the yards
usually not being located in populated areas).

Fod

Fod  gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

> I would be rather surprised if there were many, if any, truckers that
> were not also motorists.

If "motorist" is taken to mean (as Duhg usually suggests, since he 
applies it to people who don't own or regularly drive a car) "holds a car 
licence", then I'd doubt there's _any_.

Can you even _get_ an HGV licence without already holding a car licence?

> The reasons for this statement would be based on Vince and Conors
> description of their difficulty in getting to their place of work
> without using a car.  ( with the hours being anti social and the yards
> usually not being located in populated areas).

Indeed, I'd expect it's bloody difficult to get an operator's licence for 
an HGV depot in a populated area. And quite right too. Bet Duhg'd moan 
like buggery if there was one right next to his house.

Sure, there's buses/bikes - but buses don't run at stupid o'clock in the 
morning, and who in their right mind would be wanting to cycle to work 
with a load of bedding etc (as required for a truck driver on more than a 
one-day stint) in a trailer behind at stupid o'clock on a snowy winter's 
morning...?

Adrian wrote:

> Can you even _get_ an HGV licence without already holding a car
> licence?

Not now. One used to be able to learn to drive from scratch on an HGV class 
1.

But, some dumbo decided that it would be better if eveyone had to learn to 
drive a car first, then an HGV 3 equivalent, then 2 then 1. Naturally this 
involves paying the fees for each test rather than just the one under the 
previous system. Of course, only a cynic would think that this change had 
anything to do with the government generating additional revenue through the 
additional test fees.

In article <b3c9741a-3d3e-47b9-90c5-1e1478d00bed@
2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
> On 27 Aug, 18:00, "Knight Of The Road" 
> wrote:
> > "Conor"  wrote
> >
> > > You are aware that the reason your gas and electric bills are rising by
> > > up to 30% this year is the link to crude prices?
> >
> > I must just correct you here. Doug doesn't drive, so fuel price rises hardly
> > affect him at all. He told us so, remember?
> >
> Wrong as usual. The reason I am virtually unaffected is that my
> overall energy consumption has become so low that these increases are
> hardly noticed at all.
> 
According to the carbon calculator results you posted several months 
ago, you are using four times what I am. There is no way at all a 
person living on their own can reduce it to what mine is.


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article <36fd26b6-9633-4993-b847-
0118ce74fbba@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
> On 27 Aug, 19:00, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> > Doug  wrote:
> > > The reason I am virtually unaffected is that my overall energy consumption
> > > has become so low that these increases are hardly noticed at all.
> >
> > So you've failed to notice the runaway inflation in food prices? How
> > odd.
> >
> Of course not, but because I do not eat expensive animal products my
> food bills are always very low anyway.
> >
So fruit and veg isn't going up too? Different to my experience.

> > Your claims about your energy usage are of course bollocks.
> >
> Liar.
> 
You've proven with your own figures you use four times what I do.


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article <caa90556-e365-4873-a675-fb46f39bcf63
@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...

> 
> I don't know about the Catford residents you mention but speaking for
> myself, who lives elsewhere, I have no problem eating and find that UK
> food has always been very cheap, 

But you said you don't eat UK food....

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article <9a0f1e24-22e0-4a68-893e-95fc2df6847f@
59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...

> There is no requirement for truckers to also be motorists 

How does that work then? Does a truck not have an engine?


> and I
> suspect that many are not since they spend so much time in their cabs,
> or at most they are very infrequent motorists.
> 
How do we get to and from work when we start before PT begins and the 
trucks are based in the factories that aren't within reasonable cycling 
distance of home?



-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article , Adrian says...

> Can you even _get_ an HGV licence without already holding a car licence?
> 
Only if you're in HM Forces and applying as a trainee of the Defence 
Driving School.


> Indeed, I'd expect it's bloody difficult to get an operator's licence for 
> an HGV depot in a populated area. And quite right too. Bet Duhg'd moan 
> like buggery if there was one right next to his house.
> 
Take this industrial estate here:
http://tinyurl.com/67fkm8

The most obvoius route to it from the north is down the M1, onto the 
M10 then south down the A5183 from the roundabout on the end of the 
M10. 

HOWEVER, the residents at Frogmore complained so instead we have to do 
an extra 20-40 miles going via J22, M25 and then B556.


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article <69042cde-2b80-469e-871a-
c4df681175ca@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, BrianW says...

> Vince, Conor and other truck drivers - how many of your truck driver
> colleagues are not also motorists?
> 
There's one who works at a firm my mate is at. The only reason he's not 
a motorist is because he lives in a portacabin at the transport 
company. Has no family or mates so doesn't bother him. If he didn't 
live there, he'd have to have a car as it's unfeasible to use PT to get 
there.


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

Conor  gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

> HOWEVER, the residents at Frogmore complained so instead we have to do
> an extra 20-40 miles going via J22, M25 and then B556.

M10, A414, A1081 down to J22?

"Conor"  wrote in message 
news:6hq9ooFnivvmU23@mid.individual.net...
> In article , Adrian says...
>
>> Can you even _get_ an HGV licence without already holding a car licence?
>>
> Only if you're in HM Forces and applying as a trainee of the Defence
> Driving School.
>
>
>> Indeed, I'd expect it's bloody difficult to get an operator's licence for
>> an HGV depot in a populated area. And quite right too. Bet Duhg'd moan
>> like buggery if there was one right next to his house.
>>
> Take this industrial estate here:
> http://tinyurl.com/67fkm8
>
> The most obvoius route to it from the north is down the M1, onto the
> M10 then south down the A5183 from the roundabout on the end of the
> M10.
>
> HOWEVER, the residents at Frogmore complained so instead we have to do
> an extra 20-40 miles going via J22, M25 and then B556.
>

So, what's that work out at in your wagon Conor? An extra 30-35 litres of 
diesel? Very green aren't they, these NIMBYs..

Mike P

On 29 Aug, 13:54, Conor  wrote:
> In article <69042cde-2b80-469e-871a-
> c4df68117...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, BrianW says...
>
> > Vince, Conor and other truck drivers - how many of your truck driver
> > colleagues are not also motorists?
>
> There's one who works at a firm my mate is at. The only reason he's not
> a motorist is because he lives in a portacabin at the transport
> company. Has no family or mates so doesn't bother him. If he didn't
> live there, he'd have to have a car as it's unfeasible to use PT to get
> there.

To Gollum, that probably sounds like a setup that should be applied to
all of you.  Obviously the hypocritical old turd would excuse himself
from living in a portacabin, though - when it suited him to do so, he
lived in rural Cornwall and drove a Land Rover.

Brimstone wrote:
> Doug wrote:
> 
>> I don't know about the Catford residents you mention but speaking for
>> myself, who lives elsewhere,
> 
> Liar.
> 
>> I have no problem eating and find that UK
>> food has always been very cheap, probably because of the massive
>> public hand-outs given to our farmers.
> 
> Evidence of these "massive public hand-outs given to our farmers" please.
> 
>> Also, my dietary avoidance of
>> expensive animal products does allow considerable savings on food
>> bills.
>>
>> I am sorry you appear to be suffering from the credit crunch and high
>> fuel costs but surely that is a very good reason to modify your
>> lifestyle, particularly the car dependency aspect.
> 
> But then you wouldn't eat.
> 
> On the other hand....
> 
> Vince, have you thought about changing jobs? 

He's still waiting for that report that was promised and never arrived.

-- 
John Wright

"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?

You would have a bunch of people standing around in a cave, chatting and
socialising and not getting anything done!" - Professor Temple Grandin

"Doug"  wrote



> I don't know about the Catford residents you mention but speaking for
> myself, who lives elsewhere,

OK, Catford *and* cloud-cuckoo land then.



> I am sorry you appear to be suffering from the credit crunch and high
> fuel costs but surely that is a very good reason to modify your
> lifestyle, particularly the car dependency aspect.


And so how would your food get to Tesco?




-- 
Regards, Vince.

Harry Monk's Long Distance Diary   Luton-Huelva

http://trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34657 (New 9th August 2008)

"Doug"  wrote


Just because Vince has made himself utterly car dependent doesn't
meant that others have too nor does it mean that I am dependent on
motorists for my food.


Well perhaps then you could produce this report explaining to me how I could 
do this?

You have been promising to since last year, you know.



-- 
Regards, Vince.

Harry Monk's Long Distance Diary   Luton-Huelva

http://trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34657 (New 9th August 2008)

"BrianW"  wrote in message 
news:2bf28b5d-9d48-4cc7-baa4-Ah, you've encountered Toomy (aka Toomtard) for 
the first time.  He is
a drooling retard who makes Doug Bollen look intelligent.  Don't
expect anything he says to make sense.

OK, Which word or collection of words is it that you assert is not English ?

Recession, Demand or maybe dampened demand?

you'll find that a recurring phrase IF you read the business sections of the 
grown ups' papers

If you are new you'll find I disagree with spiteful little Bri who blames 
Doug for every perceived injustice the motorist in the whole World suffers 
and maybe IF we complained or got off our arses in greater number things 
might change but no :(   lets just show what unpleasentbullying little turds 
with no imagination or intellect we are

On 5 Sep, 16:05, "Tommy"  wrote:
> "BrianW"  wrote in message
>
> news:2bf28b5d-9d48-4cc7-baa4-Ah, you've encountered Toomy (aka Toomtard) for
> the first time.  He is
> a drooling retard who makes Doug Bollen look intelligent.  Don't
> expect anything he says to make sense.
>
> OK, Which word or collection of words is it that you assert is not English ?

Pissed again, Toomy?  Or are the voices misleading you again?  It was
MikeP who said your post was not proper English, not me.  I simply
said that you are a drooling retard.  Which you are.