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date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:54:51 +0100,    group: uk.transport        back       
a note from history   
From 1909:-

"A few years ago two gentlemen were dining at a Shrewsbury Hotel when a 
lumbering car was driven into the yard. Like many of the early motors, this 
one was neither silent nor odourless, and one of the diners, pointing to the 
snorting machinery, observed to his friend, "If ever I should become 
Chancellor of the Exchequer, those are the things I should make contribute 
pretty generously to the finances of the country". The speaker was Mr David 
Lloyd George, now the Chancellor".

So, no change then?
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:54:51 +0100   author:   Brimstone

Re: a note from history   
"Brimstone"  wrote in message 
news:kpWdnQ8gC9xiIPHVRVnyggA@bt.com...
> From 1909:-
>
> "A few years ago two gentlemen were dining at a Shrewsbury Hotel when a 
> lumbering car was driven into the yard. Like many of the early motors, 
> this one was neither silent nor odourless, and one of the diners, pointing 
> to the snorting machinery, observed to his friend, "If ever I should 
> become Chancellor of the Exchequer, those are the things I should make 
> contribute pretty generously to the finances of the country". The speaker 
> was Mr David Lloyd George, now the Chancellor".
>
> So, no change then?
Well yes. Because not only are the old bangers being taxed to the hilt, so 
are the new, "cleaner" ones.

McK.
date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 06:16:09 +0100   author:   McKev \(yay!\)

Re: a note from history   
On 3 Jul, 12:54, "Brimstone"  wrote:
> From 1909:-
>
> "A few years ago two gentlemen were dining at a Shrewsbury Hotel when a
> lumbering car was driven into the yard. Like many of the early motors, this
> one was neither silent nor odourless, and one of the diners, pointing to the
> snorting machinery, observed to his friend, "If ever I should become
> Chancellor of the Exchequer, those are the things I should make contribute
> pretty generously to the finances of the country". The speaker was Mr David
> Lloyd George, now the Chancellor".
>
> So, no change then?

Obviously not. He didn't and nobody else has since. Though maybe, just
maybe, the rising price of oil might finally do the trick and make
motorists pay as much as they cost the country at long last.

--
World Carfree Network
http://www.worldcarfree.net/
Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:21:37 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Doug

Re: a note from history   
On 3 Jul, 12:54, "Brimstone"  wrote:
> From 1909:-
>
> "A few years ago two gentlemen were dining at a Shrewsbury Hotel when a
> lumbering car was driven into the yard. Like many of the early motors, this
> one was neither silent nor odourless, and one of the diners, pointing to the
> snorting machinery, observed to his friend, "If ever I should become
> Chancellor of the Exchequer, those are the things I should make contribute
> pretty generously to the finances of the country". The speaker was Mr David
> Lloyd George, now the Chancellor".
>
> So, no change then?

Another note to help explain it:-

http://tinyurl.com/6e4ozx

"EVERY AUTO HAS COST THOUSANDS IN ROADS; New York City Has to
Reconstruct 860 Miles of Macadam That Machines Have Destroyed."  (1911)
date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 01:16:22 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Squashme

Re: a note from history   
In message 
, 
Doug  writes
>On 3 Jul, 12:54, "Brimstone"  wrote:
>> From 1909:-
>>
>> "A few years ago two gentlemen were dining at a Shrewsbury Hotel when a
>> lumbering car was driven into the yard. Like many of the early motors, this
>> one was neither silent nor odourless, and one of the diners, pointing to the
>> snorting machinery, observed to his friend, "If ever I should become
>> Chancellor of the Exchequer, those are the things I should make contribute
>> pretty generously to the finances of the country". The speaker was Mr David
>> Lloyd George, now the Chancellor".
>>
>> So, no change then?
>
>Obviously not. He didn't and nobody else has since. Though maybe, just
>maybe, the rising price of oil might finally do the trick and make
>motorists pay as much as they cost the country at long last.

Ah, more DuhgStats.

They already pay many times more than they 'cost' the country. How a 
lifelong dole bunny like you can even keep a straight face while 
spouting this drivel is beyond me.

And you admit to having been a motorist yourself. Has the CO2 that you 
output during that time magically become "good" CO2 that somehow doesn't 
contribute to the greenhouse effect any more?


-- 
Ed Banger
date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:13:17 +0100   author:   Ed Banger

Re: a note from history   
On 4 Jul, 15:13, Ed Banger  wrote:
> In message
> ,
> Doug  writes
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 3 Jul, 12:54, "Brimstone"  wrote:
> >> From 1909:-
>
> >> "A few years ago two gentlemen were dining at a Shrewsbury Hotel when a
> >> lumbering car was driven into the yard. Like many of the early motors, this
> >> one was neither silent nor odourless, and one of the diners, pointing to the
> >> snorting machinery, observed to his friend, "If ever I should become
> >> Chancellor of the Exchequer, those are the things I should make contribute
> >> pretty generously to the finances of the country". The speaker was Mr David
> >> Lloyd George, now the Chancellor".
>
> >> So, no change then?
>
> >Obviously not. He didn't and nobody else has since. Though maybe, just
> >maybe, the rising price of oil might finally do the trick and make
> >motorists pay as much as they cost the country at long last.
>
> Ah, more DuhgStats.
>
> They already pay many times more than they 'cost' the country. How a
> lifelong dole bunny like you can even keep a straight face while
> spouting this drivel is beyond me.
>
> And you admit to having been a motorist yourself. Has the CO2 that you
> output during that time magically become "good" CO2 that somehow doesn't
> contribute to the greenhouse effect any more?

It did not magically become "good" CO2.  It always was "good" CO2.  As
I thought everybody knew, CO2 produced by activities undertaken by
Gollum, or of which Gollum approves is automatically "good".  All
other CO2 is of the "bad" variety.  Do try and keep up at the back,
please.
date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:23:28 -0700 (PDT)   author:   BrianW

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