Hopefully this could mean fewer cars on our roads.

"The plan to impose higher road tax on many family cars regardless of
their age has already helped to wipe thousands of pounds off the value
of popular makes.

Used-car dealers warned that barring a rethink, the bottom would fall
out of the   market, predicting that perfectly-good models, aged just
five or six years old, would become almost worthless.

Billions of pounds have already been wiped off the value of secondhand
cars as motorists struggle to cope with soaring fuel prices.

Under the changes, an ordinary family car worth around £3,000 would
cost £400 a year to run, making it almost impossible to sell on, but
too expensive to drive.

Figures suggest values are tumbling in anticipation of the changes. In
the first five months of this year, according to Auto Trader magazine,
the average price of a Ford Focus dropped by 6.9 per cent and a Ford
Mondeo by 7.5 per cent.

Analysts said the average price of a used car could drop by a quarter
over the course of 2008.

Once a car which falls into a higher-emission bracket drops in value
to £1,200 or so, it will cost more to tax it for three years than it
was bought for in the first place."

More:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1030090/Alistair-Darling-forced-car-tax-climbdown-head-Labour-revolt.html

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Doug wrote:
> Hopefully this could mean fewer cars on our roads.
>
Yet another car thread from the resident liar.

On 29 Jun, 06:47, Doug  wrote:
> Hopefully this could mean fewer car-

related threads started by Gollum, uk.transport's resident liar and
fuckwitt.

The bottom fell out of one of my cars in the 60's, should not have 
bought a Vauxhall.

-- 
Tony the Dragon

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:53:11 +0100, Tony Dragon wrote
(in article ):

> The bottom fell out of one of my cars in the 60's, should not have 
> bought a Vauxhall.
> 
> 

My fathers first car, Vauxhall Wyvern 1955 model, reduced to dust very 
rapidly but showing remarkable brand loyalty he then bought an FA Victor 
which was probably the most rapidly rusting car known to man (possible 
exception the Lancia Beta of the late seventies).

NM

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nik.morgan wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:53:11 +0100, Tony Dragon wrote
> (in article ):
> 
>> The bottom fell out of one of my cars in the 60's, should not have 
>> bought a Vauxhall.
>>
>>
> 
> My fathers first car, Vauxhall Wyvern 1955 model, reduced to dust very 
> rapidly but showing remarkable brand loyalty he then bought an FA Victor 
> which was probably the most rapidly rusting car known to man (possible 
> exception the Lancia Beta of the late seventies).
> 
> NM
> 
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

I bought the FB, not as bad as the FA, but close.
Mind you they are much better now.

-- 
Tony the Dragon

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:08:30 +0100, Tony Dragon wrote
(in article ):

> nik.morgan wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:53:11 +0100, Tony Dragon wrote
>> (in article ):
>> 
>>> The bottom fell out of one of my cars in the 60's, should not have 
>>> bought a Vauxhall.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> My fathers first car, Vauxhall Wyvern 1955 model, reduced to dust very 
>> rapidly but showing remarkable brand loyalty he then bought an FA Victor 
>> which was probably the most rapidly rusting car known to man (possible 
>> exception the Lancia Beta of the late seventies).
>> 
>> NM
>> 
>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
> 
> I bought the FB, not as bad as the FA, but close.
> Mind you they are much better now.
> 
> 

Later we went sporty, Vauxhall VX4/90, an FB with two carbs. that was the 
final straw, he went Austin/Morris.

NM

NM

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Tony Dragon wrote:
> The bottom fell out of one of my cars in the 60's, should not have 
> bought a Vauxhall.
> 
LOL!

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On 29 Jun, 06:47, Doug  wrote:
> Hopefully this could mean fewer cars on our roads.
>
> "The plan to impose higher road tax on many family cars regardless of
> their age has already helped to wipe thousands of pounds off the value
> of popular makes.

So what you spend on new taxes you save on the initial purchase. If a
gas guzzler loses say 3 grand in value that'll pay for the tax for
over 5 years.

All that will happen is the arthur daleys get less of a markup when
they sell the vehicle , for the buyer it'll make bugger all difference
and for some people it could mean picking up a nice bargain if they
don't plan on driving it much and so arn't worried about fuel bills.

>
> Used-car dealers warned that barring a rethink, the bottom would fall
> out of the   market, predicting that perfectly-good models, aged just
> five or six years old, would become almost worthless.

Depends on the car. If its a daewoo its virtually worthless the minute
its driven out of the showroom. If its a BMW it'll hold its value for
years.

B2003

In article <4d174892-3058-42db-9e2b-bef32cd49eeb@
56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
> Hopefully this could mean fewer cars on our roads.
> 
> "The plan to impose higher road tax on many family cars regardless of
> their age has already helped to wipe thousands of pounds off the value
> of popular makes.
> 
Err Doug, it was announced this week that they're not going ahead with 
it.....


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article <4d174892-3058-42db-9e2b-bef32cd49eeb@
56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
> Hopefully this could mean fewer cars on our roads.
> 
> "The plan to impose higher road tax on many family cars regardless of
> their age has already helped to wipe thousands of pounds off the value
> of popular makes.
> 
> More:
> 
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1030090/Alistair-Darling-forced-car-tax-climbdown-head-Labour-revolt.html
> 
FIRST PARAGRAPH..

Plans to hit millions of motorists with backdated road tax rises of up 
to £245 are being axed to head off a Labour revolt next week.

So which is it Doug? Is it happening or not because the article you 
posted suggests not.

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

Doug wrote:
> Hopefully this could mean fewer cars on our roads.
> 
> "The plan to impose higher road tax on many family cars regardless of
> their age has already helped to wipe thousands of pounds off the value
> of popular makes.

This will be the plan that every political commentator says will result 
in a U turn by GB because of its retro-active nature - e.g. badly 
thought out in the first place, just like the abolition of the 10p tax rat.

-- 
John Wright

"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?

You would have a bunch of people standing around in a cave, chatting and
socialising and not getting anything done!" - Professor Temple Grandin

"Conor"  wrote in message 
news:6cp5odF3hcftqU5@mid.individual.net...
In article <4d174892-3058-42db-9e2b-bef32cd49eeb@
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1030090/Alistair-Darling-forced-car-tax-climbdown-head-Labour-revolt.html
>
FIRST PARAGRAPH..

Plans to hit millions of motorists with backdated road tax rises of up
to £245 are being axed to head off a Labour revolt next week.

Its what I've been saying for ages - no point at all threatning and slagging 
the messanger - Doug

Labour MPs are panicing not because of the planet being destroyed but the 
distinct possibility that they will loose their seats and be thrown off the 
best  "public transport" - The Gravy train

I suggest we keep pushing them!

"John Wright"  wrote in message 
news:WdWdnX5uQ-G1-PrVnZ2dnUVZ8tvinZ2d@pipex.net...
> Doug wrote:
>> Hopefully this could mean fewer cars on our roads.
>>
>> "The plan to impose higher road tax on many family cars regardless of
>> their age has already helped to wipe thousands of pounds off the value
>> of popular makes.
>
> This will be the plan that every political commentator says will result in 
> a U turn by GB because of its retro-active nature - e.g. badly thought out 
> in the first place, just like the abolition of the 10p tax rat.

The problem is that for the last 30 years of Tory rule (I'm unlike Doug too 
young to remember much before Maggie politically from a 1st person POV) the 
government has considered the population to be idiots (I guess if they based 
it on those who lived in Catford they may have been right) and only 
interested in the headline base gate of income tax and prepared to buy into 
the "green" propaganda rather than simply seeing it for the cover story to 
try to make tax seem more palatable.

Depresion wrote:
> "John Wright"  wrote in message
> news:WdWdnX5uQ-G1-PrVnZ2dnUVZ8tvinZ2d@pipex.net...
>> Doug wrote:
>>> Hopefully this could mean fewer cars on our roads.
>>>
>>> "The plan to impose higher road tax on many family cars regardless
>>> of their age has already helped to wipe thousands of pounds off the
>>> value of popular makes.
>>
>> This will be the plan that every political commentator says will
>> result in a U turn by GB because of its retro-active nature - e.g.
>> badly thought out in the first place, just like the abolition of the
>> 10p tax rat.
>
> The problem is that for the last 30 years of Tory rule (I'm unlike
> Doug too young to remember much before Maggie politically from a 1st
> person POV) the government has considered the population to be idiots
> (I guess if they based it on those who lived in Catford they may have
> been right) and only interested in the headline base gate of income
> tax and prepared to buy into the "green" propaganda rather than
> simply seeing it for the cover story to try to make tax seem more
> palatable.

In general I agree with you. After Orwell's "1984" everyone was worried 
about "Big Brother" taking over our lives. Sadly they totally overlooked the 
far more insidious phenomena of "Big Sister". Anyone who has a big sister, 
or even those who live in a female dominated household, know that the female 
of the species always knows best and will do whatever it takes to have 
everyone else bend to doing what she believes is "for your own benefit".

The aspect I disagree with is that I can't believe that everyone who lives 
in Catford is an idiot. Are they?

"Brimstone"  wrote in message 
news:e96dnVmfHPTpE_rVnZ2dnUVZ8v3inZ2d@bt.com...
> Depresion wrote:
>> "John Wright"  wrote in message
>> news:WdWdnX5uQ-G1-PrVnZ2dnUVZ8tvinZ2d@pipex.net...
>>> Doug wrote:
>>>> Hopefully this could mean fewer cars on our roads.
>>>>
>>>> "The plan to impose higher road tax on many family cars regardless
>>>> of their age has already helped to wipe thousands of pounds off the
>>>> value of popular makes.
>>>
>>> This will be the plan that every political commentator says will
>>> result in a U turn by GB because of its retro-active nature - e.g.
>>> badly thought out in the first place, just like the abolition of the
>>> 10p tax rat.
>>
>> The problem is that for the last 30 years of Tory rule (I'm unlike
>> Doug too young to remember much before Maggie politically from a 1st
>> person POV) the government has considered the population to be idiots
>> (I guess if they based it on those who lived in Catford they may have
>> been right) and only interested in the headline base gate of income
>> tax and prepared to buy into the "green" propaganda rather than
>> simply seeing it for the cover story to try to make tax seem more
>> palatable.
>
> In general I agree with you. After Orwell's "1984" everyone was worried 
> about "Big Brother" taking over our lives. Sadly they totally overlooked 
> the far more insidious phenomena of "Big Sister". Anyone who has a big 
> sister, or even those who live in a female dominated household, know that 
> the female of the species always knows best and will do whatever it takes 
> to have everyone else bend to doing what she believes is "for your own 
> benefit".
>
> The aspect I disagree with is that I can't believe that everyone who lives 
> in Catford is an idiot. Are they?

Nobody with an IQ of more than 30 would want to live in Catford. Ergo it 
would follow that everyone who lives in Catford is an idiot.

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:49:25 +0100, Gizmo. wrote
(in article <4bO9k.170676$NN3.35206@newsfe08.ams2>):

> 
> "Brimstone"  wrote in message 
> news:e96dnVmfHPTpE_rVnZ2dnUVZ8v3inZ2d@bt.com...
>> Depresion wrote:
>>> "John Wright"  wrote in message
>>> news:WdWdnX5uQ-G1-PrVnZ2dnUVZ8tvinZ2d@pipex.net...
>>>> Doug wrote:
>>>>> Hopefully this could mean fewer cars on our roads.
>>>>> 
>>>>> "The plan to impose higher road tax on many family cars regardless
>>>>> of their age has already helped to wipe thousands of pounds off the
>>>>> value of popular makes.
>>>> 
>>>> This will be the plan that every political commentator says will
>>>> result in a U turn by GB because of its retro-active nature - e.g.
>>>> badly thought out in the first place, just like the abolition of the
>>>> 10p tax rat.
>>> 
>>> The problem is that for the last 30 years of Tory rule (I'm unlike
>>> Doug too young to remember much before Maggie politically from a 1st
>>> person POV) the government has considered the population to be idiots
>>> (I guess if they based it on those who lived in Catford they may have
>>> been right) and only interested in the headline base gate of income
>>> tax and prepared to buy into the "green" propaganda rather than
>>> simply seeing it for the cover story to try to make tax seem more
>>> palatable.
>> 
>> In general I agree with you. After Orwell's "1984" everyone was worried 
>> about "Big Brother" taking over our lives. Sadly they totally overlooked 
>> the far more insidious phenomena of "Big Sister". Anyone who has a big 
>> sister, or even those who live in a female dominated household, know that 
>> the female of the species always knows best and will do whatever it takes 
>> to have everyone else bend to doing what she believes is "for your own 
>> benefit".
>> 
>> The aspect I disagree with is that I can't believe that everyone who lives 
>> in Catford is an idiot. Are they?
> 
> Nobody with an IQ of more than 30 would want to live in Catford. Ergo it 
> would follow that everyone who lives in Catford is an idiot. 
> 
> 

Really, some parts of Catford are better than many South London suburbs. try 
Thamesmead if you want chav's or Brixtion if you want to pretend you are in 
Jamacia.

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"nik.morgan"  wrote in message 
news:0001HW.C48D71CF00E7F103F02845B0@free.teranews.com...
>
> Really, some parts of Catford are better than many South London suburbs.

That's a bit like saying some forms of Meningitis are better than many 
cancers, given the choice people will avoid both.

Depresion wrote:
> "nik.morgan"  wrote in message
> news:0001HW.C48D71CF00E7F103F02845B0@free.teranews.com...
>>
>> Really, some parts of Catford are better than many South London
>> suburbs.
>
> That's a bit like saying some forms of Meningitis are better than many
> cancers, given the choice people will avoid both.

Quite. Despite my earlier comment, I've never really understood why anyone 
would choose to live south of the river in London.

Brimstone wrote:
> Depresion wrote:
>> "nik.morgan"  wrote in message
>> news:0001HW.C48D71CF00E7F103F02845B0@free.teranews.com...
>>> Really, some parts of Catford are better than many South London
>>> suburbs.
>> That's a bit like saying some forms of Meningitis are better than many
>> cancers, given the choice people will avoid both.
> 
> Quite. Despite my earlier comment, I've never really understood why anyone 
> would choose to live south of the river in London. 

Confirms the typical London cabbie's reaction as well.

-- 
John Wright

"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?

You would have a bunch of people standing around in a cave, chatting and
socialising and not getting anything done!" - Professor Temple Grandin

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:26:30 +0100, Brimstone wrote
(in article ):

> Depresion wrote:
>> "nik.morgan"  wrote in message
>> news:0001HW.C48D71CF00E7F103F02845B0@free.teranews.com...
>>> 
>>> Really, some parts of Catford are better than many South London
>>> suburbs.
>> 
>> That's a bit like saying some forms of Meningitis are better than many
>> cancers, given the choice people will avoid both.
> 
> Quite. Despite my earlier comment, I've never really understood why anyone 
> would choose to live south of the river in London. 
> 
> 

Probably because the north and the northwest of London is turning into a 
microcosm of various parts of Asia. If I wanted to live in Mumbai or 
Rawlpindi then I would move there.

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On 29 Jun, 18:52, nik.morgan  wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:26:30 +0100, Brimstone wrote
> (in article ):
>
> > Depresion wrote:
> >> "nik.morgan"  wrote in message
> >>news:0001HW.C48D71CF00E7F103F02845B0@free.teranews.com...
>
> >>> Really, some parts of Catford are better than many South London
> >>> suburbs.
>
> >> That's a bit like saying some forms of Meningitis are better than many
> >> cancers, given the choice people will avoid both.
>
> > Quite. Despite my earlier comment, I've never really understood why anyone
> > would choose to live south of the river in London.
>
> Probably because the north and the northwest of London is turning into a
> microcosm of various parts of Asia. If I wanted to live in Mumbai or
> Rawlpindi then I would move there.

There might be a smell of curry wafting about but at least you don't
need to walk around in a bullet proof vest in case you get hit in
crossfire of drugs dealers, sorry , I mean poor misunderstood
teenagers, having a disagreement.

B2003

Brimstone wrote:
> Depresion wrote:
>> "John Wright"  wrote in message
>> news:WdWdnX5uQ-G1-PrVnZ2dnUVZ8tvinZ2d@pipex.net...
>>> Doug wrote:
>>>> Hopefully this could mean fewer cars on our roads.
>>>>
>>>> "The plan to impose higher road tax on many family cars regardless
>>>> of their age has already helped to wipe thousands of pounds off the
>>>> value of popular makes.
>>> This will be the plan that every political commentator says will
>>> result in a U turn by GB because of its retro-active nature - e.g.
>>> badly thought out in the first place, just like the abolition of the
>>> 10p tax rat.
>> The problem is that for the last 30 years of Tory rule (I'm unlike
>> Doug too young to remember much before Maggie politically from a 1st
>> person POV) the government has considered the population to be idiots
>> (I guess if they based it on those who lived in Catford they may have
>> been right) and only interested in the headline base gate of income
>> tax and prepared to buy into the "green" propaganda rather than
>> simply seeing it for the cover story to try to make tax seem more
>> palatable.
> 
> In general I agree with you. After Orwell's "1984" everyone was worried 
> about "Big Brother" taking over our lives. Sadly they totally overlooked the 
> far more insidious phenomena of "Big Sister". Anyone who has a big sister, 
> or even those who live in a female dominated household, know that the female 
> of the species always knows best and will do whatever it takes to have 
> everyone else bend to doing what she believes is "for your own benefit".
> 
> The aspect I disagree with is that I can't believe that everyone who lives 
> in Catford is an idiot. Are they? 
> 
> 

Well, they do *live* in Catford!

-- 
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Brimstone wrote:
> Depresion wrote:
>> "nik.morgan"  wrote in message
>> news:0001HW.C48D71CF00E7F103F02845B0@free.teranews.com...
>>> Really, some parts of Catford are better than many South London
>>> suburbs.
>> That's a bit like saying some forms of Meningitis are better than many
>> cancers, given the choice people will avoid both.
> 
> Quite. Despite my earlier comment, I've never really understood why anyone 
> would choose to live south of the river in London. 
> 
> 
How far south of the river would you put your boundary?

-- 
Tony the Dragon

Tony Dragon wrote:
> Brimstone wrote:
>> Depresion wrote:
>>> "nik.morgan"  wrote in message
>>> news:0001HW.C48D71CF00E7F103F02845B0@free.teranews.com...
>>>> Really, some parts of Catford are better than many South London
>>>> suburbs.
>>> That's a bit like saying some forms of Meningitis are better than
>>> many cancers, given the choice people will avoid both.
>>
>> Quite. Despite my earlier comment, I've never really understood why
>> anyone would choose to live south of the river in London.
>>
>>
> How far south of the river would you put your boundary?

The LCC area, ish.

Brimstone wrote:
> Tony Dragon wrote:
>> Brimstone wrote:
>>> Depresion wrote:
>>>> "nik.morgan"  wrote in message
>>>> news:0001HW.C48D71CF00E7F103F02845B0@free.teranews.com...
>>>>> Really, some parts of Catford are better than many South London
>>>>> suburbs.
>>>> That's a bit like saying some forms of Meningitis are better than
>>>> many cancers, given the choice people will avoid both.
>>> Quite. Despite my earlier comment, I've never really understood why
>>> anyone would choose to live south of the river in London.
>>>
>>>
>> How far south of the river would you put your boundary?
> 
> The LCC area, ish. 
> 
> 
That's OK then, ish

-- 
Tony the Dragon

Doug wrote:
> Hopefully this could mean fewer cars on our roads.

How??? People will continue to use their existing cars, maintaining 
them, rather than get rid and swapping for new ones. You should be 
pleased at this reeling in of hyperconsumerism!

-- 
Abo

In message , Conor 
 writes
>In article <4d174892-3058-42db-9e2b-bef32cd49eeb@
>56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
>> Hopefully this could mean fewer cars on our roads.
>>
>> "The plan to impose higher road tax on many family cars regardless of
>> their age has already helped to wipe thousands of pounds off the value
>> of popular makes.
>>
>> More:
>>
>> 
>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1030090/Alistair-Darling-forced
>>-car-tax-climbdown-head-Labour-revolt.html
>>
>FIRST PARAGRAPH..
>
>Plans to hit millions of motorists with backdated road tax rises of up
>to £245 are being axed to head off a Labour revolt next week.
>
>So which is it Doug? Is it happening or not because the article you
>posted suggests not.

Further proof, as if it were needed, that DUHg doesn't even read the 
shite that he posts.


-- 
Ed Banger

In message <vqydndwCLatCI_rVnZ2dnUVZ8t3inZ2d@posted.plusnet>, Depresion 
<127.0.0.1@?.?.invalid> writes
>
>"nik.morgan"  wrote in message
>news:0001HW.C48D71CF00E7F103F02845B0@free.teranews.com...
>>
>> Really, some parts of Catford are better than many South London suburbs.
>
>That's a bit like saying some forms of Meningitis are better than many
>cancers, given the choice people will avoid both.

I agree with Nik. There are much better parts of London, obviously, but 
there are many that are far, far worse. In fact, Duhg seems to live in 
quite a reasonable abode by council housing standards. At least he's 
living in (part of) a house that was built to decent standards before 
the concrete slums of the 60s and 70s were built.

The real injustice is that Duhg gets to live rent-free after a lifetime 
of sponging off the state and is better off than many poor sods who are 
working for a living.


-- 
Ed Banger

On 29 Jun, 11:13, Conor  wrote:
> In article <4d174892-3058-42db-9e2b-bef32cd49eeb@
> 56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...> Hopefully this could mean fewer cars on our roads.
>
> > "The plan to impose higher road tax on many family cars regardless of
> > their age has already helped to wipe thousands of pounds off the value
> > of popular makes.
>
> Err Doug, it was announced this week that they're not going ahead with
> it.....
>
Seems to be still undecided. This also relates to another thread
'Abandoned cars'. Nasty heaps cluttering everywhere.

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On 2008-07-04, Doug  wrote:
> On 29 Jun, 11:13, Conor  wrote:
>> In article <4d174892-3058-42db-9e2b-bef32cd49eeb@
>> 56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...> Hopefully this could mean fewer cars on our roads.
>>
>> > "The plan to impose higher road tax on many family cars regardless of
>> > their age has already helped to wipe thousands of pounds off the value
>> > of popular makes.
>>
>> Err Doug, it was announced this week that they're not going ahead with
>> it.....
>>
> Seems to be still undecided. This also relates to another thread
> 'Abandoned cars'. Nasty heaps cluttering everywhere.

No they aren't. You're wrong.


-- 
          "Be thankful that you have a life, and forsake your vain
                 and presumptuous desire for a second one."
               [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]

On 4 Jul, 06:36, Doug  wrote:
> On 29 Jun, 11:13, Conor  wrote:> In article <4d174892-3058-42db-9e2b-bef32cd49eeb@
> > 56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...> Hopefully this could mean fewer cars on our roads.
>
> > > "The plan to impose higher road tax on many family cars regardless of
> > > their age has already helped to wipe thousands of pounds off the value
> > > of popular makes.
>
> > Err Doug, it was announced this week that they're not going ahead with
> > it.....
>
> Seems to be still undecided. This also relates to another thread
> 'Abandoned cars'. Nasty heaps cluttering everywhere.

I know of only one person who has ever simply abandoned a car he
didn't want by the side of the road.  Land Rover, I think it was.  But
he is a hypocritical old turd.

In article <42ece4b5-0bf0-4641-851e-3666fd80c5eb@
27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...

> Seems to be still undecided. This also relates to another thread
> 'Abandoned cars'. Nasty heaps cluttering everywhere.

Can't recall the last one I saw. However, I've seen plenty of adverts 
offering to pay you money to take your scrap car away.


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

On 5 Jul, 11:59, Conor  wrote:
> In article <42ece4b5-0bf0-4641-851e-3666fd80c5eb@
> 27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
>
> > Seems to be still undecided. This also relates to another thread
> > 'Abandoned cars'. Nasty heaps cluttering everywhere.
>
> Can't recall the last one I saw. However, I've seen plenty of adverts
> offering to pay you money to take your scrap car away.
>
What about when cars are abandoned and it costs the council to get rid
of them?

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndCommunity/WhereYouLive/NoiseNuisanceAndLitter/DG_4001703

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Doug wrote:
> On 5 Jul, 11:59, Conor  wrote:
>> In article <42ece4b5-0bf0-4641-851e-3666fd80c5eb@
>> 27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
>>
>>> Seems to be still undecided. This also relates to another thread
>>> 'Abandoned cars'. Nasty heaps cluttering everywhere.
>>
>> Can't recall the last one I saw. However, I've seen plenty of adverts
>> offering to pay you money to take your scrap car away.
>>
> What about when cars are abandoned and it costs the council to get rid
> of them?
>
> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndCommunity/WhereYouLive/NoiseNuisanceAndLitter/DG_4001703

Just because the Councils have a system in place to deal with a problem it 
doesn't mean that it happens all day every day.

Doug  wrote:

> On 5 Jul, 11:59, Conor  wrote:
> > In article <42ece4b5-0bf0-4641-851e-3666fd80c5eb@
> > 27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
> >
> > > Seems to be still undecided. This also relates to another thread
> > > 'Abandoned cars'. Nasty heaps cluttering everywhere.
> >
> > Can't recall the last one I saw. However, I've seen plenty of adverts
> > offering to pay you money to take your scrap car away.
> >
> What about when cars are abandoned and it costs the council to get rid
> of them?
> 
> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndCommunity/WhereYouLive/NoiseNuisanceAnd
> Litter/DG_4001703

And what is the cause of cars being burned out and abandond, would you
say?

On Jul 7, 7:47 am, Doug  wrote:
> On 5 Jul, 11:59, Conor  wrote:> In article <42ece4b5-0bf0-4641-851e-3666fd80c5eb@
> > 27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
>
> > > Seems to be still undecided. This also relates to another thread
> > > 'Abandoned cars'. Nasty heaps cluttering everywhere.
>
> > Can't recall the last one I saw. However, I've seen plenty of adverts
> > offering to pay you money to take your scrap car away.
>
> What about when cars are abandoned and it costs the council to get rid
> of them?

When i talked to my local council they were happy to take cars away as
they make money from it.

Fod

In article <e7e739e0-4af9-49a2-a7fe-89825b498ba1
@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
> On 5 Jul, 11:59, Conor  wrote:
> > In article <42ece4b5-0bf0-4641-851e-3666fd80c5eb@
> > 27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
> >
> > > Seems to be still undecided. This also relates to another thread
> > > 'Abandoned cars'. Nasty heaps cluttering everywhere.
> >
> > Can't recall the last one I saw. However, I've seen plenty of adverts
> > offering to pay you money to take your scrap car away.
> >
> What about when cars are abandoned and it costs the council to get rid
> of them?
> 
> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndCommunity/WhereYouLive/NoiseNuisanceAndLitter/DG_4001703
> 
Doesn't cost the council anything - they get money from the recyclers.


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

On Jul 7, 9:08 pm, Conor  wrote:
> In article <e7e739e0-4af9-49a2-a7fe-89825b498ba1
> @l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...> On 5 Jul, 11:59, Conor  wrote:
> > > In article <42ece4b5-0bf0-4641-851e-3666fd80c5eb@
> > > 27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
>
> > > > Seems to be still undecided. This also relates to another thread
> > > > 'Abandoned cars'. Nasty heaps cluttering everywhere.
>
> > > Can't recall the last one I saw. However, I've seen plenty of adverts
> > > offering to pay you money to take your scrap car away.
>
> > What about when cars are abandoned and it costs the council to get rid
> > of them?
>
> >http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndCommunity/WhereYouLive/NoiseNuisan...
>
> Doesn't cost the council anything - they get money from the recyclers.

Story on the bbc this morning about the rise of scrap related crime
where people steel things to sell for scrap due to the high value of
scrap...  The police were raiding a scrappie to check the days intake.

And to add further travel interest back in ( at the risk of moving the
topic away from a rant about cars) a rail line down south had to be
closed after cabels from the line were stolen.  ( the bbc were vague
about what type of cables)

Fod

Fod wrote:
> On Jul 7, 9:08 pm, Conor  wrote:
>> In article <e7e739e0-4af9-49a2-a7fe-89825b498ba1
>> @l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...> On 5 Jul, 11:59, Conor  wrote:
>>>> In article <42ece4b5-0bf0-4641-851e-3666fd80c5eb@
>>>> 27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
>>>>> Seems to be still undecided. This also relates to another thread
>>>>> 'Abandoned cars'. Nasty heaps cluttering everywhere.
>>>> Can't recall the last one I saw. However, I've seen plenty of adverts
>>>> offering to pay you money to take your scrap car away.
>>> What about when cars are abandoned and it costs the council to get rid
>>> of them?
>>> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndCommunity/WhereYouLive/NoiseNuisan...
>> Doesn't cost the council anything - they get money from the recyclers.
> 
> Story on the bbc this morning about the rise of scrap related crime
> where people steel things to sell for scrap due to the high value of
> scrap...  The police were raiding a scrappie to check the days intake.
> 
> And to add further travel interest back in ( at the risk of moving the
> topic away from a rant about cars) a rail line down south had to be
> closed after cabels from the line were stolen.  ( the bbc were vague
> about what type of cables)
> 
> Fod
> 

Vince Cables?

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