Seems anti-war protesters weren't the only ones badly inconvenienced
by the most powerful man in the world then.

"British Airways has criticised Heathrow owner BAA for allowing George
Bush to fly into the UK's biggest airport, forcing the cancellation of
at least 69 flights and disrupting the travel plans of 40,000
passengers.

Willie Walsh, BA chief executive, said he was angry that the
presidential entourage, which included two Boeing 747 jets and four
helicopters, caused chaos 10 days ago as runways were closed and
planes grounded. "The decision to allow President Bush and his fleet
of aircraft to fly into Heathrow rather than a military base was one
all of Heathrow's users could have done without," he said. "I am also
angry that this was allowed."

Walsh said the disruption began two days before the president's visit
on June 15 and lasted for the two days that his party stayed in the
UK. Heathrow was reduced to one working runway for 30 minutes on June
15 and 16, after its other runway was closed temporarily for the
arrival and departure of Air Force One..."

More:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/jun/24/britishairwaysbusiness.baa

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Doug wrote:
> Seems anti-war protesters weren't the only ones badly inconvenienced
> by the most powerful man in the world then.
>
And?

On Jun 24, 6:49 pm, "Brimstone"  wrote:
> Doug wrote:
> > Seems anti-war protesters weren't the only ones badly inconvenienced
> > by the most powerful man in the world then.
>
> And?

I think Doug is trying to show that Heathrow requires expansion.

Fod

Fod wrote:
> On Jun 24, 6:49 pm, "Brimstone"  wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> Seems anti-war protesters weren't the only ones badly inconvenienced
>>> by the most powerful man in the world then.
>>
>> And?
>
> I think Doug is trying to show that Heathrow requires expansion.
>
I can't think of any other reason for him to post that.

"Doug"  wrote in message 
news:001ef992-efd3-45ae-97c4-3f75c12ae35d@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Seems anti-war protesters weren't the only ones badly inconvenienced
> by the most powerful man in the world then.
>

That's what happens in life you cunt, get over it.

Mike P

Doug  wrote:

> "British Airways has criticised Heathrow owner BAA for allowing George
> Bush to fly into the UK's biggest airport, forcing the cancellation of
> at least 69 flights and disrupting the travel plans of 40,000
> passengers.

He has a point, presidential flights used to be scheduled into nearby
military airfield at one time. However the spendthrift Labour government
has sold off the ones closest to London.

"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1ij34sl.19kowmukrda5kN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
> Doug  wrote:
>
>> "British Airways has criticised Heathrow owner BAA for allowing George
>> Bush to fly into the UK's biggest airport, forcing the cancellation of
>> at least 69 flights and disrupting the travel plans of 40,000
>> passengers.
>
> He has a point, presidential flights used to be scheduled into nearby
> military airfield at one time. However the spendthrift Labour government
> has sold off the ones closest to London.

Kent International has a runway that will take a Jumbo. I'm not sure anyone 
would even notice if that were shut for a day.

Colin Bignell

Steve Firth wrote:
> Doug  wrote:
> 
>> "British Airways has criticised Heathrow owner BAA for allowing George
>> Bush to fly into the UK's biggest airport, forcing the cancellation of
>> at least 69 flights and disrupting the travel plans of 40,000
>> passengers.
> 
> He has a point, presidential flights used to be scheduled into nearby
> military airfield at one time. However the spendthrift Labour government
> has sold off the ones closest to London.

Northholt still seems to be in RAF hands, but maybe its runway isn't 
long enough for a 747 at only 5,545 feet.

-- 
John Wright

"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?

You would have a bunch of people standing around in a cave, chatting and
socialising and not getting anything done!" - Professor Temple Grandin

John Wright  gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

>>> "British Airways has criticised Heathrow owner BAA for allowing George
>>> Bush to fly into the UK's biggest airport, forcing the cancellation of
>>> at least 69 flights and disrupting the travel plans of 40,000
>>> passengers.

>> He has a point, presidential flights used to be scheduled into nearby
>> military airfield at one time. However the spendthrift Labour
>> government has sold off the ones closest to London.

> Northholt still seems to be in RAF hands, but maybe its runway isn't
> long enough for a 747 at only 5,545 feet.

Luton's long enough for the bloody great big Russian freighters, so 
easily long enough for a 747.

A few Sleazyjet flights could stand to be disrupted.

On 24 Jun, 18:47, Doug  wrote:
> Seems anti-war protesters weren't the only ones badly inconvenienced
> by the most powerful man in the world then.


So Dzhugashvili, you seem very happy that TWO Jumbo jets, plus FOUR
helicopters, flew 4000 miles just for a nice trip for ONE man. That
excludes any other support they may have needed, e.g. refuelling the
helicopters, advance security teams etc.

You are seriously twisted.

NotMe  gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

> So Dzhugashvili, you seem very happy that TWO Jumbo jets, plus FOUR
> helicopters, flew 4000 miles just for a nice trip for ONE man.

Umm, three large planes. As well as AF1 and the spare 747, there was a 
757 to carry... umm...

"Adrian"  wrote in message 
news:6cfjuhF3gk4mjU1@mid.individual.net...
> John Wright  gurgled happily, sounding much like
> they were saying:
>
>>>> "British Airways has criticised Heathrow owner BAA for allowing George
>>>> Bush to fly into the UK's biggest airport, forcing the cancellation of
>>>> at least 69 flights and disrupting the travel plans of 40,000
>>>> passengers.
>
>>> He has a point, presidential flights used to be scheduled into nearby
>>> military airfield at one time. However the spendthrift Labour
>>> government has sold off the ones closest to London.
>
>> Northholt still seems to be in RAF hands, but maybe its runway isn't
>> long enough for a 747 at only 5,545 feet.
>
> Luton's long enough for the bloody great big Russian freighters, so
> easily long enough for a 747.

A 747-200 needs about 3.2 kilometers of runway to take off, compared to the 
2.16km runway at Luton.

Colin Bignell

John Wright  wrote:

> Steve Firth wrote:
> > Doug  wrote:
> > 
> >> "British Airways has criticised Heathrow owner BAA for allowing George
> >> Bush to fly into the UK's biggest airport, forcing the cancellation of
> >> at least 69 flights and disrupting the travel plans of 40,000
> >> passengers.
> > 
> > He has a point, presidential flights used to be scheduled into nearby
> > military airfield at one time. However the spendthrift Labour government
> > has sold off the ones closest to London.
> 
> Northholt still seems to be in RAF hands, but maybe its runway isn't 
> long enough for a 747 at only 5,545 feet.

And it seems to be reserved as The Royal Family's  (and the Prime
Minister's) private airport.

"nightjar" <cpb@<insert my surname here> wrote:

> 
> A 747-200 needs about 3.2 kilometers of runway to take off, compared to the
> 2.16km runway at Luton.

<cough>ollocks.

Only at MTOW.

747-200s can take off and land at Bournemouth (length of runway 2.2km).
And operated happily out of FRN, LoR 2.8km.

On 25 Jun, 21:01, NotMe  wrote:
> On 24 Jun, 18:47, Doug  wrote:
>
> > Seems anti-war protesters weren't the only ones badly inconvenienced
> > by the most powerful man in the world then.
>
> So Dzhugashvili, you seem very happy that TWO Jumbo jets, plus FOUR
> helicopters, flew 4000 miles just for a nice trip for ONE man. That
> excludes any other support they may have needed, e.g. refuelling the
> helicopters, advance security teams etc.
>
> You are seriously twisted.

How on earth do you arrive at the conclusion that I was in favour of
Bush's visit, NutYou? Do you actually read this NG at all before
posting?

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"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1ij4eig.chx40f1xi4g7bN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
> "nightjar" <cpb@<insert my surname here> wrote:
>
>>
>> A 747-200 needs about 3.2 kilometers of runway to take off, compared to 
>> the
>> 2.16km runway at Luton.
>
> <cough>ollocks.
>
> Only at MTOW.
>
> 747-200s can take off and land at Bournemouth (length of runway 2.2km).
> And operated happily out of FRN, LoR 2.8km.

The Americans are not very forthcoming about Air Force One, but I did read 
that it is common practice to carry a full fuel load, in case of a sudden 
need to divert the President somewhere, such as a hole under a mountain. 
Presumably part of the 'extensive modifications' include uprated landing 
gear to allow for a higher landing weight. A standard fit 747-200 with a 
full fuel load is only 60 tonnes short of MTOW.

Colin Bignell

Adrian wrote:
> John Wright  gurgled happily, sounding much like
> they were saying:
> 
>>>> "British Airways has criticised Heathrow owner BAA for allowing George
>>>> Bush to fly into the UK's biggest airport, forcing the cancellation of
>>>> at least 69 flights and disrupting the travel plans of 40,000
>>>> passengers.
> 
>>> He has a point, presidential flights used to be scheduled into nearby
>>> military airfield at one time. However the spendthrift Labour
>>> government has sold off the ones closest to London.
> 
>> Northholt still seems to be in RAF hands, but maybe its runway isn't
>> long enough for a 747 at only 5,545 feet.
> 
> Luton's long enough for the bloody great big Russian freighters, so 
> easily long enough for a 747.

This is true, but its famously further away from London than either 
Heathrow or Northolt.

> A few Sleazyjet flights could stand to be disrupted.

Not too may people would complain about that!
-- 
John Wright

"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?

You would have a bunch of people standing around in a cave, chatting and
socialising and not getting anything done!" - Professor Temple Grandin

Steve Firth wrote:
> John Wright  wrote:
> 
>> Steve Firth wrote:
>>> Doug  wrote:
>>>
>>>> "British Airways has criticised Heathrow owner BAA for allowing George
>>>> Bush to fly into the UK's biggest airport, forcing the cancellation of
>>>> at least 69 flights and disrupting the travel plans of 40,000
>>>> passengers.
>>> He has a point, presidential flights used to be scheduled into nearby
>>> military airfield at one time. However the spendthrift Labour government
>>> has sold off the ones closest to London.
>> Northholt still seems to be in RAF hands, but maybe its runway isn't 
>> long enough for a 747 at only 5,545 feet.
> 
> And it seems to be reserved as The Royal Family's  (and the Prime
> Minister's) private airport.

And famously John Cleese.
-- 
John Wright

"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?

You would have a bunch of people standing around in a cave, chatting and
socialising and not getting anything done!" - Professor Temple Grandin

Doug wrote:
> On 25 Jun, 21:01, NotMe  wrote:
>> On 24 Jun, 18:47, Doug  wrote:
>>
>>> Seems anti-war protesters weren't the only ones badly inconvenienced
>>> by the most powerful man in the world then.
>> So Dzhugashvili, you seem very happy that TWO Jumbo jets, plus FOUR
>> helicopters, flew 4000 miles just for a nice trip for ONE man. That
>> excludes any other support they may have needed, e.g. refuelling the
>> helicopters, advance security teams etc.
>>
>> You are seriously twisted.
> 
> How on earth do you arrive at the conclusion that I was in favour of
> Bush's visit, NutYou? Do you actually read this NG at all before
> posting?

Perhaps your delight at the inconvenience caused which you proudly 
proclaimed when starting this thread confused some people into thinking 
it was a good thing.

-- 
John Wright

"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?

You would have a bunch of people standing around in a cave, chatting and
socialising and not getting anything done!" - Professor Temple Grandin