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date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:07:40 -0700 (PDT),
group: uk.transport
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While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and killing
people...
This is what happens to animal rights protesters. The motorists who
dominate and infest this transport newsgroup will love this and will
gloat. They especially hate ARAs.
"Following a lengthy police investigation and an 18-week trial costing
over £4.5 million, the operator of a website criticising animal
testing company Sequani, has been jailed for four and a half years for
organising a legal protest.
In an unprecedented case, the press were barred from reporting the
trial, witnesses were bussed into the court and mobile phones were
even confiscated from the public before they entered the gallery and
the jury. The atmosphere was more akin to a terrorist trial than one
relating to non-violent protest, which made the charges appear far
more sinister than they in fact were. The choice of judge was also
considered highly questionable considering he is a keen hunter.
Sean Kirtley was found guilty under Section 145 of the SOCPA law for
Interfering with the contractual relationships of a Laboratory for
allegedly organising protests at Sequani Limited and associated
business associates. Police say disorder took place on a occasions
during protests and claim as the organiser that Sean is responsible
for any criminality that takes place.
The police claimed that during the protests individuals, not Kirtley,
had been verbally abusive to staff members and that they had caused
them to feel harassed. However, no-one was arrested or charged with
such an offence, and prosecution witnesses testified that Kirtley had
on most occasions been silent and peaceful throughout protests. Whilst
Kirtley contends he did not organise protests at Sequani or its
suppliers, he operated a website which effectively campaigned against
the company. In a move that will alarm internet publishers and
bloggers, posting details of the legal protests and information about
Sequani and suppliers was considered key evidence that he was the
campaign organiser.
As the supposed organiser of the legal protest, Kirtley has therefore
been convicted because of supposed actions by phantom third parties
that Sean had conspired with or as the law states persons unknown.
No evidence was used in the trial that proved he had engaged in anti
social behaviour on demonstrations, criminal damage or any other
illegal activity.
Kirtley will now be incarcerated for far longer than most dangerous
criminals. It appears that after such an expensive and extensive
investigation, the CPS needed a conviction to justify such a huge
expense of public money. Even then, the sentence passed was unusually
severe. Child abusers, rapists and violent criminals are often given
far lower sentences for far more serious crimes. In the same week, in
two other high-profile cases, a man was given a similar sentence for
causing the violent death of his baby son, and two brothers were
jailed for only two years for committing serious assault that
permanently blinded their victim..."
More:
http://westernanimalrights.wordpress.com/
--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
One man's democracy is another man's regime.
date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:07:40 -0700 (PDT)
author: Doug
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Re: ART found guilty once again.
On 12 Jun, 07:07, Doug wrote:
> Sean Kirtley was found guilty under Section 145 of the SOCPA law for
> Interfering with the contractual relationships of a Laboratory for
> allegedly organising protests at Sequani Limited and associated
> business associates.
Have you thought about posting this crap to a more appropriate group
e.g.alt.animal.rights or alt.dev.null
btw. you don't get found guilty of an "alleged" crime.
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:14:46 -0700 (PDT)
author: NotMe
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and killing people...
Doug wrote:
> This is what happens to animal rights protesters.
What has this got to do with UK transport?
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:28:02 +0100
author: Brimstone
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and
killing people...
On 12 Jun, 07:07, Doug wrote:
> This is what happens to animal rights protesters. The motorists who
> dominate and infest this transport newsgroup will love this and will
> gloat. They especially hate ARAs.
Splendid stuff. Now, if only the cops would arrest a certain, highly
obnxious individual called Doug Bollen, the job would be finished.
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:35:34 -0700 (PDT)
author: BrianW
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and killing people...
"Doug" wrote in message
news:d08335e3-fe9b-4d25-8a8f-af072623f3a9@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
< a load of guff not relevant to uk.transport >
Couldn't you find any nice juicy stories to post about children getting run
over by cars, or whatever else it is that turns you on, that you had to post
something entirely irrelevant to a transport newsgoup?
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:39:25 +0100
author: Graculus
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and
killing people...
On 12 Jun, 09:39, "Graculus"
wrote:
> "Doug" wrote in message
>
> news:d08335e3-fe9b-4d25-8a8f-af072623f3a9@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> < a load of guff not relevant to uk.transport >
>
> Couldn't you find any nice juicy stories to post about children getting run
> over by cars, or whatever else it is that turns you on, that you had to post
> something entirely irrelevant to a transport newsgoup?
Are you blind? Can't you see the word 'motorists' in the thread title?
There has been much debate on this NG about the light or zero
sentencing of motorist killers compared to other sorts of killers and
this thread is highly relevant to that discussion. Note that the
sentence given to Sean Kirtley is more than that given to many killers
even though he has physically harmed no one. These distorted laws not
only reflect on serious transport issues but also the sort of regime
we are living under. Not that you care, obviously.
--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
One man's democracy is another man's regime.
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:53:37 -0700 (PDT)
author: Doug
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and killing people...
Doug wrote:
> On 12 Jun, 09:39, "Graculus"
> wrote:
>> "Doug" wrote in message
>>
>> news:d08335e3-fe9b-4d25-8a8f-af072623f3a9@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> < a load of guff not relevant to uk.transport >
>>
>> Couldn't you find any nice juicy stories to post about children
>> getting run over by cars, or whatever else it is that turns you on,
>> that you had to post something entirely irrelevant to a transport
>> newsgoup?
>
> Are you blind? Can't you see the word 'motorists' in the thread title?
> There has been much debate on this NG about the light or zero
> sentencing of motorist killers compared to other sorts of killers and
> this thread is highly relevant to that discussion.
A) all such "discussion" has been initiated by you.
B) such discussion is not relevant to uk.transport.
> Note that the
> sentence given to Sean Kirtley is more than that given to many killers
> even though he has physically harmed no one. These distorted laws not
> only reflect on serious transport issues but also the sort of regime
> we are living under. Not that you care, obviously.
Whether anyone on uk.transport cares is beside the point, it's got nothing
to do with transport.
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:57:16 +0100
author: Brimstone
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and
killing people...
Doug gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:
> On 12 Jun, 09:39, "Graculus" wrote:
>> "Doug" wrote in message
>>
>> news:d08335e3-fe9b-4d25-8a8f-
af072623f3a9@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> < a load of guff not relevant to uk.transport >
>>
>> Couldn't you find any nice juicy stories to post about children
>> getting run over by cars, or whatever else it is that turns you on,
>> that you had to post something entirely irrelevant to a transport
>> newsgoup?
>
> Are you blind? Can't you see the word 'motorists' in the thread title?
Oh, well, that's OK then - cut'n'paste an irrelevant article but shove a
random relevant word in the title...
> There has been much debate on this NG about the light or zero sentencing
> of motorist killers compared to other sorts of killers
Always started by you, strangely enough.
> Note that the sentence given to Sean Kirtley is more than that given to
> many killers even though he has physically harmed no one.
How about this pair?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/7259735.stm
http://www.sfo.gov.uk/news/prout/pr_539.asp?id=539
Seven and a half years each, but they "physically harmed no one", either.
Why aren't you shouting about them?
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:00:17 +0000 (UTC)
author: Adrian
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and
killing people...
On Jun 12, 9:53 am, Doug wrote:
> On 12 Jun, 09:39, "Graculus"
> wrote:
>
> > "Doug" wrote in message
>
> >news:d08335e3-fe9b-4d25-8a8f-af072623f3a9@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > < a load of guff not relevant to uk.transport >
>
> > Couldn't you find any nice juicy stories to post about children getting run
> > over by cars, or whatever else it is that turns you on, that you had to post
> > something entirely irrelevant to a transport newsgoup?
>
> Are you blind? Can't you see the word 'motorists' in the thread title?
Yes, but what has that got to do with you posting a thread that has
nothing to do with transport?
You could try using the normal usenet etiquette of putting an "OT" in
the title to highlight that its an off topic discussion you want to
have.
Fod
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:00:25 -0700 (PDT)
author: Fod
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and
killing people...
On 12 Jun, 09:57, "Brimstone" wrote:
> Doug wrote:
> > On 12 Jun, 09:39, "Graculus"
> > wrote:
> >> "Doug" wrote in message
>
> >>news:d08335e3-fe9b-4d25-8a8f-af072623f3a9@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> < a load of guff not relevant to uk.transport >
>
> >> Couldn't you find any nice juicy stories to post about children
> >> getting run over by cars, or whatever else it is that turns you on,
> >> that you had to post something entirely irrelevant to a transport
> >> newsgoup?
>
> > Are you blind? Can't you see the word 'motorists' in the thread title?
> > There has been much debate on this NG about the light or zero
> > sentencing of motorist killers compared to other sorts of killers and
> > this thread is highly relevant to that discussion.
>
> A) all such "discussion" has been initiated by you.
>
Wrong again. The motorists who dominate and infest this transport
newsgroup like to demonise public protesters and environmentalists as
a way of getting back at me and they do it at every off topic
opportunity.
What about these threads then?
Another of Doug's mates gets jailed
OT: Nutter banged up
>
>
> B) such discussion is not relevant to uk.transport.
>
Neither are many of yours. So what, hypocrite?
>
> > Note that the
> > sentence given to Sean Kirtley is more than that given to many killers
> > even though he has physically harmed no one. These distorted laws not
> > only reflect on serious transport issues but also the sort of regime
> > we are living under. Not that you care, obviously.
>
> Whether anyone on uk.transport cares is beside the point, it's got nothing
> to do with transport.
>
The law has everything to do with uk.transport.
--
World Carfree Network
http://www.worldcarfree.net/
Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:12:29 -0700 (PDT)
author: Doug
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and
killing people...
Doug gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:
>> Whether anyone on uk.transport cares is beside the point, it's got
>> nothing to do with transport.
> The law has everything to do with uk.transport.
_Some_ law does.
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:16:01 +0000 (UTC)
author: Adrian
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and killing people...
Doug wrote:
> On 12 Jun, 09:57, "Brimstone" wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> On 12 Jun, 09:39, "Graculus"
>>> wrote:
>>>> "Doug" wrote in message
>>
>>>> news:d08335e3-fe9b-4d25-8a8f-af072623f3a9@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>> < a load of guff not relevant to uk.transport >
>>
>>>> Couldn't you find any nice juicy stories to post about children
>>>> getting run over by cars, or whatever else it is that turns you on,
>>>> that you had to post something entirely irrelevant to a transport
>>>> newsgoup?
>>
>>> Are you blind? Can't you see the word 'motorists' in the thread
>>> title? There has been much debate on this NG about the light or zero
>>> sentencing of motorist killers compared to other sorts of killers
>>> and this thread is highly relevant to that discussion.
>>
>> A) all such "discussion" has been initiated by you.
>>
> Wrong again. The motorists who dominate and infest this transport
> newsgroup like to demonise public protesters and environmentalists as
> a way of getting back at me and they do it at every off topic
> opportunity.
Why do you think people want to "get back at you", what has caused your
persecution complex?
>> B) such discussion is not relevant to uk.transport.
>>
> Neither are many of yours. So what, hypocrite?
You constantly complain about people "getting back at you" and "abusing"
you. Do you not see te connection between that behaviour and your comment
above?
>>> Note that the
>>> sentence given to Sean Kirtley is more than that given to many
>>> killers even though he has physically harmed no one. These
>>> distorted laws not only reflect on serious transport issues but
>>> also the sort of regime we are living under. Not that you care,
>>> obviously.
>>
>> Whether anyone on uk.transport cares is beside the point, it's got
>> nothing to do with transport.
>>
> The law has everything to do with uk.transport.
Transport law, yes. The cut 'n' paste article you posted has nothing to do
with transport.
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:19:19 +0100
author: Brimstone
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and killing people...
In article <44310dee-d924-4634-8d36-
4969919378cf@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
> Are you blind? Can't you see the word 'motorists' in the thread title?
Which has got absolutely NOTHING to do with the article. Just putting
the word motorist in a post doesn't make it OT.
--
Conor
I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:41:19 +0100
author: Conor
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and killing people...
In article <d08335e3-fe9b-4d25-8a8f-af072623f3a9
@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
> This is what happens to animal rights protesters. The motorists who
> dominate and infest this transport newsgroup will love this and will
> gloat. They especially hate ARAs.
>
> "Following a lengthy police investigation and an 18-week trial costing
> over £4.5 million, the operator of a website criticising animal
> testing company Sequani, has been jailed for four and a half years for
> organising a legal protest.
>
I thought you'd be pleased. He holds a driving licence.
--
Conor
I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:42:20 +0100
author: Conor
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and killing people...
In article <7db78f2b-bd92-42fa-a7c1-c7fca2eb4b01
@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
> Wrong again. The motorists who dominate and infest this transport
> newsgroup like to demonise public protesters and environmentalists as
> a way of getting back at me and they do it at every off topic
> opportunity.
>
But you're left with a quandry Doug. The subject of the post is
extremely likely to be a car driver so he's a car driver who has been
locked up which is what you want to happen to all of us.
--
Conor
I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:43:40 +0100
author: Conor
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and
killing people...
On 12 Jun, 07:07, Doug wrote:
> This is what happens to animal rights protesters. The motorists who
> dominate and infest this transport newsgroup will love this and will
> gloat. They especially hate ARAs.
>
> "Following a lengthy police investigation and an 18-week trial costing
> over £4.5 million, the operator of a website criticising animal
> testing company Sequani, has been jailed for four and a half years for
> organising a legal protest.
>
> In an unprecedented case, the press were barred from reporting the
> trial, witnesses were bussed into the court and mobile phones were
> even confiscated from the public before they entered the gallery and
> the jury. The atmosphere was more akin to a terrorist trial than one
> relating to non-violent protest, which made the charges appear far
> more sinister than they in fact were. The choice of judge was also
> considered highly questionable considering he is a keen hunter.
>
> Sean Kirtley was found guilty under Section 145 of the SOCPA law for
> Interfering with the contractual relationships of a Laboratory for
> allegedly organising protests at Sequani Limited and associated
> business associates. Police say disorder took place on a occasions
> during protests and claim as the organiser that Sean is responsible
> for any criminality that takes place.
>
> The police claimed that during the protests individuals, not Kirtley,
> had been verbally abusive to staff members and that they had caused
> them to feel harassed. However, no-one was arrested or charged with
> such an offence, and prosecution witnesses testified that Kirtley had
> on most occasions been silent and peaceful throughout protests. Whilst
> Kirtley contends he did not organise protests at Sequani or its
> suppliers, he operated a website which effectively campaigned against
> the company. In a move that will alarm internet publishers and
> bloggers, posting details of the legal protests and information about
> Sequani and suppliers was considered key evidence that he was the
> campaign organiser.
>
> As the supposed organiser of the legal protest, Kirtley has therefore
> been convicted because of supposed actions by phantom third parties
> that Sean had conspired with or as the law states persons unknown.
> No evidence was used in the trial that proved he had engaged in anti
> social behaviour on demonstrations, criminal damage or any other
> illegal activity.
>
> Kirtley will now be incarcerated for far longer than most dangerous
> criminals. It appears that after such an expensive and extensive
> investigation, the CPS needed a conviction to justify such a huge
> expense of public money. Even then, the sentence passed was unusually
> severe. Child abusers, rapists and violent criminals are often given
> far lower sentences for far more serious crimes. In the same week, in
> two other high-profile cases, a man was given a similar sentence for
> causing the violent death of his baby son, and two brothers were
> jailed for only two years for committing serious assault that
> permanently blinded their victim..."
>
> More:
>
> http://westernanimalrights.wordpress.com/
>
> --
> UK Radical Campaignswww.zing.icom43.net
> One man's democracy is another man's regime.
Lets see apart from the usual 'motorists who
dominate and infest this transport newsgroup ' what has this got to do
with UK transport?
Francis
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:42:17 -0700 (PDT)
author: francis
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and
killing people...
On 12 Jun, 09:53, Doug wrote:
> On 12 Jun, 09:39, "Graculus"
> wrote:
>
> > "Doug" wrote in message
>
> >news:d08335e3-fe9b-4d25-8a8f-af072623f3a9@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...> > < a load of guff not relevant to uk.transport >
>
> > Couldn't you find any nice juicy stories to post about children getting run
> > over by cars, or whatever else it is that turns you on, that you had to post
> > something entirely irrelevant to a transport newsgoup?
>
> Are you blind? Can't you see the word 'motorists' in the thread title?
> There has been much debate on this NG about the light or zero
> sentencing of motorist killers compared to other sorts of killers and
> this thread is highly relevant to that discussion. Note that the
> sentence given to Sean Kirtley is more than that given to many killers
> even though he has physically harmed no one. These distorted laws not
> only reflect on serious transport issues but also the sort of regime
> we are living under. Not that you care, obviously.
>
> --
> UK Radical Campaignswww.zing.icom43.net
> One man's democracy is another man's regime.
Thank you for your reply, it's good to see that the arts of dodging,
twisting, & moving goalposts are still being used.
Francis
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:45:23 -0700 (PDT)
author: francis
|
Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and
killing people...
On 12 Jun, 10:12, Doug wrote:
> On 12 Jun, 09:57, "Brimstone" wrote:
>
>
>
> > Doug wrote:
> > > On 12 Jun, 09:39, "Graculus"
> > > wrote:
> > >> "Doug" wrote in message
>
> > >>news:d08335e3-fe9b-4d25-8a8f-af072623f3a9@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> > >> < a load of guff not relevant to uk.transport >
>
> > >> Couldn't you find any nice juicy stories to post about children
> > >> getting run over by cars, or whatever else it is that turns you on,
> > >> that you had to post something entirely irrelevant to a transport
> > >> newsgoup?
>
> > > Are you blind? Can't you see the word 'motorists' in the thread title?> > > There has been much debate on this NG about the light or zero
> > > sentencing of motorist killers compared to other sorts of killers and
> > > this thread is highly relevant to that discussion.
>
> > A) all such "discussion" has been initiated by you.
>
> Wrong again. The motorists who dominate and infest this transport
> newsgroup like to demonise public protesters and environmentalists as
> a way of getting back at me and they do it at every off topic
> opportunity.
>
> What about these threads then?
>
> Another of Doug's mates gets jailed
>
> OT: Nutter banged up
>
> > B) such discussion is not relevant to uk.transport.
>
> Neither are many of yours. So what, hypocrite?
>
> > > Note that the
> > > sentence given to Sean Kirtley is more than that given to many killers> > > even though he has physically harmed no one. These distorted laws not
> > > only reflect on serious transport issues but also the sort of regime
> > > we are living under. Not that you care, obviously.
>
> > Whether anyone on uk.transport cares is beside the point, it's got nothing
> > to do with transport.
>
> The law has everything to do with uk.transport.
>
> --
> World Carfree Networkhttp://www.worldcarfree.net/
> Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
And the goalposts moved again.
Francis
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:47:07 -0700 (PDT)
author: francis
|
Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and
killing people...
francis gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:
> Lets see apart from the usual 'motorists who dominate and infest this
> transport newsgroup ' what has this got to do with UK transport?
Well, it does say that
>> witnesses were bussed into the court
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:49:28 +0000 (UTC)
author: Adrian
|
Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and
killing people...
On 12 Jun, 12:49, Adrian wrote:
> francis gurgled happily, sounding much like
> they were saying:
>
> > Lets see apart from the usual 'motorists who dominate and infest this> > transport newsgroup ' what has this got to do with UK transport?
>
> Well, it does say that
>
>
>
> >> witnesses were bussed into the court- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yes but that makes them good, those busses are the same as PT.
Francis
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:56:43 -0700 (PDT)
author: francis
|
Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and
killing people...
Brimstone wrote:
> Doug wrote:
>> This is what happens to animal rights protesters.
>
> What has this got to do with UK transport?
Precisely. I suppose Duhg thinks it does since he titled the thread
"While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and killing
people..." and started off with his usual rant against "motorists who
dominate and infest this transport newsgroup". Neither of these things
are either true nor do they have anything at all to do with transport.
--
John Wright
"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?
You would have a bunch of people standing around in a cave, chatting and
socialising and not getting anything done!" - Professor Temple Grandin
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:11:43 +0100
author: John Wright
|
Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and
killing people...
Doug wrote:
> On 12 Jun, 09:39, "Graculus"
> wrote:
>> "Doug" wrote in message
>>
>> news:d08335e3-fe9b-4d25-8a8f-af072623f3a9@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> < a load of guff not relevant to uk.transport >
>>
>> Couldn't you find any nice juicy stories to post about children getting run
>> over by cars, or whatever else it is that turns you on, that you had to post
>> something entirely irrelevant to a transport newsgoup?
>
> Are you blind? Can't you see the word 'motorists' in the thread title?
Which you put there let us be reminded. Actually bugger all to do with
motorists, or anyone else for that matter - except ARTs
--
John Wright
"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?
You would have a bunch of people standing around in a cave, chatting and
socialising and not getting anything done!" - Professor Temple Grandin
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:13:40 +0100
author: John Wright
|
Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and
killing people...
Doug wrote:
> On 12 Jun, 09:57, "Brimstone" wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>> On 12 Jun, 09:39, "Graculus"
>>> wrote:
>>>> "Doug" wrote in message
>>>> news:d08335e3-fe9b-4d25-8a8f-af072623f3a9@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>> < a load of guff not relevant to uk.transport >
>>>> Couldn't you find any nice juicy stories to post about children
>>>> getting run over by cars, or whatever else it is that turns you on,
>>>> that you had to post something entirely irrelevant to a transport
>>>> newsgoup?
>>> Are you blind? Can't you see the word 'motorists' in the thread title?
>>> There has been much debate on this NG about the light or zero
>>> sentencing of motorist killers compared to other sorts of killers and
>>> this thread is highly relevant to that discussion.
>> A) all such "discussion" has been initiated by you.
>>
> Wrong again. The motorists who dominate and infest this transport
> newsgroup like to demonise public protesters and environmentalists as
> a way of getting back at me and they do it at every off topic
> opportunity.
Wrong again. Motorists do not dominate and infest this transport
newsgroup. You do.
> What about these threads then?
>
> Another of Doug's mates gets jailed
> OT: Nutter banged up
Much better titles
>> B) such discussion is not relevant to uk.transport.
Totally correct.
--
John Wright
"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?
You would have a bunch of people standing around in a cave, chatting and
socialising and not getting anything done!" - Professor Temple Grandin
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:15:57 +0100
author: John Wright
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and killing people...
"Fod" wrote in message
news:292d5ff4-ffe5-4872-ba7e-3b0d4ab19dc8@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 12, 9:53 am, Doug wrote:
>> On 12 Jun, 09:39, "Graculus"
>> wrote:
>>
[..]
>
> Yes, but what has that got to do with you posting a thread that has
> nothing to do with transport?
>
> You could try using the normal usenet etiquette of putting an "OT" in
> the title to highlight that its an off topic discussion you want to
> have.
>
Dung doesn't DO "etiquette"......
Ian.
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:43:02 +0100
author: Ian D Henden
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and
killing people...
On 13 Jun, 07:43, "Ian D Henden" wrote:
> "Fod" wrote in message
>
> news:292d5ff4-ffe5-4872-ba7e-3b0d4ab19dc8@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...> On Jun 12, 9:53 am, Doug wrote:
> >> On 12 Jun, 09:39, "Graculus"
> >> wrote:
>
> [..]
>
> > Yes, but what has that got to do with you posting a thread that has
> > nothing to do with transport?
>
> > You could try using the normal usenet etiquette of putting an "OT" in
> > the title to highlight that its an off topic discussion you want to
> > have.
>
> Dung doesn't DO "etiquette"......
>
If by 'etiquette' you mean the latest cop-out fad dreamed up by the
hypocrite motorists who dominate and infest this transport NG then I
am glad I don't DO it. The NG is littered with off-topic threads of
every description and you and others are just currently using it as a
diversionary excuse to avoid confronting unpalatable topics, like the
distorted laws which are specially tailored to ease the penalties for
road killings.
--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
One man's democracy is another man's regime.
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:05:06 -0700 (PDT)
author: Doug
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and killing people...
Doug wrote:
> On 13 Jun, 07:43, "Ian D Henden" wrote:
>> "Fod" wrote in message
>>
>> news:292d5ff4-ffe5-4872-ba7e-3b0d4ab19dc8@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...>
>> On Jun 12, 9:53 am, Doug wrote:
>>>> On 12 Jun, 09:39, "Graculus"
>>>> wrote:
>>
>> [..]
>>
>>> Yes, but what has that got to do with you posting a thread that has
>>> nothing to do with transport?
>>
>>> You could try using the normal usenet etiquette of putting an "OT"
>>> in the title to highlight that its an off topic discussion you want
>>> to have.
>>
>> Dung doesn't DO "etiquette"......
>>
> If by 'etiquette' you mean the latest cop-out fad dreamed up by the
> hypocrite motorists who dominate and infest this transport NG then I
> am glad I don't DO it.
Well, there's another word that be added to the list of words that Doug
doesn't understand.
At this rate I think it will be easier to chnage the list to include only
those words he does understand.
> The NG is littered with off-topic threads of
> every description
Only thanks to you Doug.
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:38:40 +0100
author: Brimstone
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and killing people...
In article <7570ad95-b0da-4d03-9545-b2e709d32372@
79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
> The NG is littered with off-topic threads of
> every description
Nearly all of them started by you. Would you like me to give you some
examples?
--
Conor
I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:44:37 +0100
author: Conor
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and
killing people...
Doug wrote:
> On 13 Jun, 07:43, "Ian D Henden" wrote:
>> "Fod" wrote in message
>>
>> news:292d5ff4-ffe5-4872-ba7e-3b0d4ab19dc8@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...> On Jun 12, 9:53 am, Doug wrote:
>>>> On 12 Jun, 09:39, "Graculus"
>>>> wrote:
>> [..]
>>
>>> Yes, but what has that got to do with you posting a thread that has
>>> nothing to do with transport?
>>> You could try using the normal usenet etiquette of putting an "OT" in
>>> the title to highlight that its an off topic discussion you want to
>>> have.
>> Dung doesn't DO "etiquette"......
>>
> If by 'etiquette' you mean the latest cop-out fad dreamed up by the
> hypocrite motorists who dominate and infest this transport NG then I
> am glad I don't DO it. The NG is littered with off-topic threads of
> every description and you and others are just currently using it as a
> diversionary excuse to avoid confronting unpalatable topics, like the
> distorted laws which are specially tailored to ease the penalties for
> road killings.
>
> --
> UK Radical Campaigns
> www.zing.icom43.net
> One man's democracy is another man's regime.
>
>
Lets see, *dominate and infest this transport NG with off-topic threads*
Do we know who does this?
Answers will be marked on merit.
--
Tony the Dragon
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:07:56 +0100
author: Tony Dragon
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and killing people...
Doug wrote:
>>
> If by 'etiquette' you mean the latest cop-out fad dreamed up by the
> hypocrite motorists who dominate and infest this transport NG then I
> am glad I don't DO it. The NG is littered with off-topic threads of
> every description and you and others are just currently using it as a
> diversionary excuse to avoid confronting unpalatable topics, like the
> distorted laws which are specially tailored to ease the penalties for
> road killings.
>
Wipe your mouth Duhg, you're drooling again.
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:58:42 +0100
author: Phil Bradshaw lieoscarmike
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and killing people...
"Doug" wrote in message
news:7570ad95-b0da-4d03-9545-b2e709d32372@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> On 13 Jun, 07:43, "Ian D Henden" wrote:
>> "Fod" wrote in message
>>
>> news:292d5ff4-ffe5-4872-ba7e-3b0d4ab19dc8@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...>
>> On Jun 12, 9:53 am, Doug wrote:
>> >> On 12 Jun, 09:39, "Graculus"
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> [..]
>>
>> > Yes, but what has that got to do with you posting a thread that has
>> > nothing to do with transport?
>>
>> > You could try using the normal usenet etiquette of putting an "OT" in
>> > the title to highlight that its an off topic discussion you want to
>> > have.
>>
>> Dung doesn't DO "etiquette"......
>>
> If by 'etiquette' you mean the latest cop-out fad dreamed up by the
> hypocrite motorists who dominate and infest this transport NG then I
> am glad I don't DO it. The NG is littered with off-topic threads of
> every description and you and others are just currently using it as a
> diversionary excuse to avoid confronting unpalatable topics, like the
> distorted laws which are specially tailored to ease the penalties for
> road killings.
Or, roughly translated, if you are losing the argument, then ranting,
insulting and changing the argument is a suitable response
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:28:48 +0100
author: Graculus
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and
killing people...
On 13 Jun, 17:58, Phil Bradshaw
<philbrads...@deltasierralima.pipex.charlieoscarmike> wrote:
> Doug wrote:
>
> > If by 'etiquette' you mean the latest cop-out fad dreamed up by the
> > hypocrite motorists who dominate and infest this transport NG then I
> > am glad I don't DO it. The NG is littered with off-topic threads of
> > every description and you and others are just currently using it as a
> > diversionary excuse to avoid confronting unpalatable topics, like the
> > distorted laws which are specially tailored to ease the penalties for
> > road killings.
>
> Wipe your mouth Duhg, you're drooling again.
Given the quality of Dung's postings, it might be more accurate to say
"Wipe your arse Duhg, you're drooling again."
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:44:06 -0700 (PDT)
author: BrianW
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and killing people...
BrianW wrote:
> On 13 Jun, 17:58, Phil Bradshaw
> <philbrads...@deltasierralima.pipex.charlieoscarmike> wrote:
>> Doug wrote:
>>
>> > If by 'etiquette' you mean the latest cop-out fad dreamed up by the
>> > hypocrite motorists who dominate and infest this transport NG then I
>> > am glad I don't DO it. The NG is littered with off-topic threads of
>> > every description and you and others are just currently using it as a
>> > diversionary excuse to avoid confronting unpalatable topics, like the
>> > distorted laws which are specially tailored to ease the penalties for
>> > road killings.
>>
>> Wipe your mouth Duhg, you're drooling again.
>
> Given the quality of Dung's postings, it might be more accurate to say
> "Wipe your arse Duhg, you're drooling again."
Must be getting too much vitamin C to dribble that end.
Or something.
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:54:33 +0100
author: Phil Bradshaw lieoscarmike
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and killing people...
In message
, Doug
writes
>On 13 Jun, 07:43, "Ian D Henden" wrote:
>> "Fod" wrote in message
>>
>>
>>news:292d5ff4-ffe5-4872-ba7e-3b0d4ab19dc8@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...>
>>On Jun 12, 9:53 am, Doug wrote:
>> >> On 12 Jun, 09:39, "Graculus"
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> [..]
>>
>> > Yes, but what has that got to do with you posting a thread that has
>> > nothing to do with transport?
>>
>> > You could try using the normal usenet etiquette of putting an "OT" in
>> > the title to highlight that its an off topic discussion you want to
>> > have.
>>
>> Dung doesn't DO "etiquette"......
>>
>If by 'etiquette' you mean the latest cop-out fad dreamed up by the
>hypocrite motorists who dominate and infest this transport
etc... etc...
Ooh, you got a good Pavlovian response there, Ian. I could almost see
the saliva dribbling from Duhg's mouth.
--
Ed Banger
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:49:07 +0100
author: Ed Banger
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Re: While motorists are allowed to get away with intimidating and killing people...
Phil Bradshaw wrote:
> BrianW wrote:
>
>> On 13 Jun, 17:58, Phil Bradshaw
>> <philbrads...@deltasierralima.pipex.charlieoscarmike> wrote:
>>> Doug wrote:
>>>
>>>> If by 'etiquette' you mean the latest cop-out fad dreamed up by the
>>>> hypocrite motorists who dominate and infest this transport NG then
>>>> I am glad I don't DO it. The NG is littered with off-topic threads
>>>> of every description and you and others are just currently using
>>>> it as a diversionary excuse to avoid confronting unpalatable
>>>> topics, like the distorted laws which are specially tailored to
>>>> ease the penalties for road killings.
>>>
>>> Wipe your mouth Duhg, you're drooling again.
>>
>> Given the quality of Dung's postings, it might be more accurate to
>> say "Wipe your arse Duhg, you're drooling again."
>
> Must be getting too much vitamin C to dribble that end.
> Or something.
An over abundance of "or something" I suspect.
date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:47:00 +0100
author: Brimstone
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