Pick up your old copy of "Alternative London", 6th edition, edited by
Georganne Downes, 1982.
Look at the back of the title-page. Fourth in the "with contributions
from" section is, tadaaa, a person called Doug Bollen. Maybe he did
the stuff on microcomputers.

Note to the other Doug. I wasn't looking for the name. It just popped
out and I couldn't let it lie.

In message 
, 
Squashme  writes
>Pick up your old copy of "Alternative London", 6th edition, edited by
>Georganne Downes, 1982.
>Look at the back of the title-page. Fourth in the "with contributions
>from" section is, tadaaa, a person called Doug Bollen. Maybe he did
>the stuff on microcomputers.
>
>Note to the other Doug. I wasn't looking for the name.

So Bollen was an old hippy too, just like 'our' Doug? The coincidences 
keep piling up.

As you may know, the original author of Alternative London, Nicholas 
Saunders, was also the founder of "Neal's Yard" in Covent Garden, home 
of all manner of hippy shit from aromatherapy and homeopathy to muesli. 
The spiritual home of all things Duhg.

Saunders also discovered MDMA in later life and wrote the book E for 
Ecstasy. I don't know if Duhg followed that particular path - but the 
thought of a sweaty gurning Duhg hugging everyone in sight is too awful 
to contemplate. It might explain some of the memory loss (in addition to 
old age).

Incidentally, Saunders had a very posh background. He was the son of Sir 
Alexander Carr-Saunders, director of the LSE. He tried to blow up his 
school chapel at Ampleforth - although he was quite relieved when the 
bomb failed to go off apparently. He was also a squatter before it 
became fashionable.

Georganne Downs, editor of your edition, is the Countess of Uxbridge 
apparently.

Who knows, Bollen might be a descendant of Baldrick.

> It just popped
>out and I couldn't let it lie.

Story of Duhg's life.


-- 
Ed Banger

In message <j$BhQTE7U4TIFwFJ@nildram.co.uk>, Ed Banger 
 writes
>
>Story of Duhg's life.

While we're on the subject of historical research, I think I've found 
the first recorded use of the name "Duhg" for Doug Bollen on Usenet. 
Well, it's the earliest archived one anyway. It was on 2 Novermber 1997 
and the author was Paul Friday:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.misc/msg/d7737eb8563924b7

In article , quoth Duhg
:

 >>;The Black Death doesn't wipe out entire populations.  And
 >>;two out of ten babies surviving past the age of 6 months isn't 
considered
 >>;miraculous.

 >What?

History, Duhg.
Taught in schools. You know, fascist oppressive brainwashing centres for
the children...

----------------------------
Paul Friday

-- 
Ed Banger

"Ed Banger"  wrote in message 
news:j$BhQTE7U4TIFwFJ@nildram.co.uk...
> Story of Duhg's life.
>
and I guess you'r issues are due to excessive alocohol, STDs, and loud prog 
rock Ed?

In message <qMM3k.69340$Bz2.7052@newsfe28.ams2>, Tommy  
writes
>
>"Ed Banger"  wrote in message 
>news:j$BhQTE7U4TIFwFJ@nildram.co.uk...
>> Story of Duhg's life.
>>
>and I guess you'r issues are due to excessive alocohol, STDs, and loud 
>prog rock Ed?

Wrong on every count, Toomy. So no change there.

-- 
Ed Banger

"Ed Banger"  wrote in message 
news:DtHJ0eIi35TIFwwN@nildram.co.uk...

So no excuses for your behaviour Ed?

You re\ally believe its fair to pick on Doug loads of times every day just 
because you disagree with him (and lets be honest you by default disagree 
agree with most governmentsm most scientists), for people to tell him (via 
messages here) that they're outside his house and you to post his details 
here all the time - hoping to instigate further "action" against him - what 
do you want ?

Do you wish someone to go round his house and beat him up or destroy his 
property?

In article <Fem4oWHlD5TIFwy+@nildram.co.uk>, Ed Banger says...
> In message <j$BhQTE7U4TIFwFJ@nildram.co.uk>, Ed Banger 
>  writes
> >
> >Story of Duhg's life.
> 
> While we're on the subject of historical research, I think I've found 
> the first recorded use of the name "Duhg" for Doug Bollen on Usenet. 
> Well, it's the earliest archived one anyway. It was on 2 Novermber 1997 
> and the author was Paul Friday:
> 
Jesus..he's been this daft for that long?


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

Conor wrote:
> In article <Fem4oWHlD5TIFwy+@nildram.co.uk>, Ed Banger says...
>> In message <j$BhQTE7U4TIFwFJ@nildram.co.uk>, Ed Banger 
>>  writes
>>> Story of Duhg's life.
>> While we're on the subject of historical research, I think I've found 
>> the first recorded use of the name "Duhg" for Doug Bollen on Usenet. 
>> Well, it's the earliest archived one anyway. It was on 2 Novermber 1997 
>> and the author was Paul Friday:
>>
> Jesus..he's been this daft for that long?

I can't document anything but I've been around this ng since about 1992 
in one form or another and I can't remember Duhg being anything but 
daft. We've lost one or two along the way, but some people just keep 
coming back.


-- 
John Wright

"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?

You would have a bunch of people standing around in a cave, chatting and
socialising and not getting anything done!" - Professor Temple Grandin

In message <P7O3k.41960$yb3.37480@newsfe18.ams2>, Tommy  
writes
>
>"Ed Banger"  wrote in message 
>news:DtHJ0eIi35TIFwwN@nildram.co.uk...
>
>So no excuses for your behaviour Ed?
>
>You re\ally believe its fair to pick on Doug loads of times every day 
>just because you disagree with him

Transaltion: disagreeing with Duhg is "picking on him", according to 
Toomy.

Besides, you have done far worse to Steve Firth than anyone in this 
newsgroup has ever done to Duhg, you hypocrite and drooling fucktard.

> (and lets be honest you by default disagree agree with most 
>governmentsm most scientists),

Can you repeat that in English please? Where do I "disagree agree" with 
most governmentsm (sic) most scientists?

How does one "disagree agree" with anything?

What is your mother tongue, Toomy? It doesn't appear to be English.

>for people to tell him (via messages here) that they're outside his 
>house

Er, nobody has said anything about being outside his house. I certainly 
haven't. Ever. You're obviously very confused.


-- 
Ed Banger

"Ed Banger"  wrote in message 
news:39MlQUOIB8TIFwnZ@nildram.co.uk...

> Er, nobody has said anything about being outside his house. I certainly 
> haven't. Ever. You're obviously very confused.
>
I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its nothing to 
do with you.

 the mesages about his alleged address, what his garden looks like , what 
his house looks like then, the number plate of the car parked nearby ?

Just don't cross the line again between banter and threatening behaviour - 
plenty of angry little posters have!

My pointing out "discrepancies"  about the  Mr firth collective  is 
certainly not comparable - anyone want to thank me actually?

After all If it wasn't for me they'd be pontificating about getting to and 
from an (alleged) home in manchester (C-charge) in his alleged upmarket 4*4 
:)

"Tommy"  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

> I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its nothing
> to do with you.

<shrug> If that address is part of the freely available information about 
the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts here. Freely available 
information which the registrant of the domain could easily have 
suppressed should they have chosen to...

On 11 Jun, 11:52, "Tommy"  wrote:
>
> You re\ally believe its fair to pick on Doug loads of times every day just
> because you disagree with him (and lets be honest you by default disagree
> agree with most governmentsm most scientists),

Here is someone else who "disagree agree with most governmentsm most
scientists" (whatever that means):

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.naturist/msg/70f0b7bfeb1145a9?hl=en

Must be a different Toomy to this you, huh?

Hey, Gollum, how does it feel to find out that your one and only
supporter on this group is a climate change sceptic?

On 11 Jun, 11:52, "Tommy"  wrote:

> Do you wish someone to go round his house and beat him up or destroy his
> property?

I don't, which is why I don't post his address.  Having said that, if
someone hoyed a brick through one of Gollum's windows, I would have a
wry laugh at the irony of tactics he supports and justifies being used
against him.

In message <cDP3k.174467$cZ3.146769@newsfe10.ams2>, Tommy 
 writes
>
>"Ed Banger"  wrote in message 
>news:39MlQUOIB8TIFwnZ@nildram.co.uk...
>
>> Er, nobody has said anything about being outside his house. I 
>>certainly haven't. Ever. You're obviously very confused.
>>
>I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its 
>nothing to do with you.

Put those goalposts back where you found them. I have NEVER posted 
anything about being outside his house.

>the mesages about his alleged address, what his garden looks like , 
>what his house looks like then, the number plate of the car parked 
>nearby ?

I challenge you to give examples of *me* posting any such thing. Give 
the URLs.

>
>Just don't cross the line again between banter and threatening 
>behaviour - plenty of angry little posters have!

I have NEVER threatened Duhg or anyone else on this newsgroup. If you 
are going to keep making allegations that you can't back up, it seems 
perfectly reasonable to conclude that you are a liar.

>My pointing out "discrepancies"  about the  Mr firth collective  is 
>certainly not comparable - anyone want to thank me actually?

Pointing out the many hilarious inconsistencies and inaccuracies in 
Duhg's posts (and yours) hardly constitutes threatening behaviour.

And would you care to state how the republishing of information that has 
already appeared on Usenet constitutes an offence?


-- 
Ed Banger

"BrianW"  wrote in message 
news:26d75b05-a3c9-4533-a21c-05ab2349db8c@d1g2001hsg.googlegroups.com...
well done you can always tell an IT Turd - sorry Nerd :)

In message <%0R3k.144718$UP6.140669@newsfe14.ams2>, Tommy 
 writes
>
>"BrianW"  wrote in message
>news:26d75b05-a3c9-4533-a21c-05ab2349db8c@d1g2001hsg.googlegroups.com...
>well done you can always tell an IT Turd - sorry Nerd :)

Well, that's a fine example of how to respond when someone catches you 
out, isn't it, Mr "Do as I say, not as I do"?

I'm still waiting for the URLs of these posts that you claim I have 
written, stating that I have been outside Duhg's house, what his garden 
looks like, what his house looks like, the number plate of the car 
parked nearby etc.

Alternatively, how about being man enough to admit you made a mistake 
and apologise?


-- 
Ed Banger

On 11 Jun, 15:21, Ed Banger  wrote:
> In message <%0R3k.144718$UP6.140...@newsfe14.ams2>, Tommy
>  writes
>
>
>
> >"BrianW"  wrote in message
> >news:26d75b05-a3c9-4533-a21c-05ab2349db8c@d1g2001hsg.googlegroups.com...
> >well done you can always tell an IT Turd - sorry Nerd :)
>
> Well, that's a fine example of how to respond when someone catches you
> out, isn't it, Mr "Do as I say, not as I do"?
>
> I'm still waiting for the URLs of these posts that you claim I have
> written, stating that I have been outside Duhg's house, what his garden
> looks like, what his house looks like, the number plate of the car
> parked nearby etc.

Indeed, I should be interested to see *any* post saying any of those
things.  I am aware of only one, from several years ago, where someone
claimed to have paid a visit to a certain house in Catford.

Methinks Toomtard is lying, yet again.

BrianW wrote:
> On 11 Jun, 11:52, "Tommy"  wrote:
> 
>> Do you wish someone to go round his house and beat him up or destroy his
>> property?
> 
> I don't, which is why I don't post his address.  Having said that, if
> someone hoyed a brick through one of Gollum's windows, I would have a
> wry laugh at the irony of tactics he supports and justifies being used
> against him.

I know the address that's been posted in this group many times, and 
backed up by various websites that have had their urls posted. But I 
would no more think of heaving a brick through the window of that 
address than of anything else. Even though he claims not to be the 
person who lives there.

As I say in some places, I tend not to stab people in their sleep.

-- 
John Wright

"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?

You would have a bunch of people standing around in a cave, chatting and
socialising and not getting anything done!" - Professor Temple Grandin

John Wright wrote:
> BrianW wrote:
>> On 11 Jun, 11:52, "Tommy"  wrote:
>>
>>> Do you wish someone to go round his house and beat him up or destroy his
>>> property?
>>
>> I don't, which is why I don't post his address.  Having said that, if
>> someone hoyed a brick through one of Gollum's windows, I would have a
>> wry laugh at the irony of tactics he supports and justifies being used
>> against him.
> 
> I know the address that's been posted in this group many times, and 
> backed up by various websites that have had their urls posted. But I 
> would no more think of heaving a brick through the window of that 
> address than of anything else. Even though he claims not to be the 
> person who lives there.
> 
> As I say in some places, I tend not to stab people in their sleep.
> 

You mean you like to see their face.

-- 
Tony the Dragon

Conor  wrote:

> In article <Fem4oWHlD5TIFwy+@nildram.co.uk>, Ed Banger says...
> > In message <j$BhQTE7U4TIFwFJ@nildram.co.uk>, Ed Banger 
> >  writes
> > >
> > >Story of Duhg's life.
> > 
> > While we're on the subject of historical research, I think I've found
> > the first recorded use of the name "Duhg" for Doug Bollen on Usenet.
> > Well, it's the earliest archived one anyway. It was on 2 Novermber 1997
> > and the author was Paul Friday:
> > 
> Jesus..he's been this daft for that long?

Longer than that Conor. I've been aware of his foetid presence on usenet
since a few months after I got a Demon account.

On 11 Jun, 13:39, Adrian  wrote:
> "Tommy"  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying:
>
> > I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its nothing
> > to do with you.
>
> <shrug> If that address is part of the freely available information about
> the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts here. Freely available
> information which the registrant of the domain could easily have
> suppressed should they have chosen to...
>
Duh! I post loads of URLs here, Adrain. Do you seriously imagine they
all belong to Bollen? If not how do you decide on which ones do?

--
World Carfree Network
http://www.worldcarfree.net/
Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.

Doug  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

>> > I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its
>> > nothing to do with you.

>> <shrug> If that address is part of the freely available information
>> about the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts here. Freely
>> available information which the registrant of the domain could easily
>> have suppressed should they have chosen to...

> Duh! I post loads of URLs here, Adrain. Do you seriously imagine they
> all belong to Bollen? If not how do you decide on which ones do?

When the domain name is very closely related to the email address you 
post under, there's a hint of a clue.

On 12 Jun, 10:16, Adrian  wrote:
> Doug  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying:
>
> >> > I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its
> >> > nothing to do with you.
> >> <shrug> If that address is part of the freely available information
> >> about the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts here. Freely
> >> available information which the registrant of the domain could easily
> >> have suppressed should they have chosen to...
> > Duh! I post loads of URLs here, Adrain. Do you seriously imagine they
> > all belong to Bollen? If not how do you decide on which ones do?
>
> When the domain name is very closely related to the email address you
> post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>
Liar! Evidence?

--
World Carfree Network
http://www.worldcarfree.net/
Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.

Doug wrote:
> On 12 Jun, 10:16, Adrian  wrote:
>> Doug  gurgled happily, sounding much like they
>> were saying:
>>
>>>>> I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its
>>>>> nothing to do with you.
>>>> <shrug> If that address is part of the freely available information
>>>> about the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts here. Freely
>>>> available information which the registrant of the domain could
>>>> easily have suppressed should they have chosen to...
>>> Duh! I post loads of URLs here, Adrain. Do you seriously imagine
>>> they all belong to Bollen? If not how do you decide on which ones
>>> do?
>>
>> When the domain name is very closely related to the email address you
>> post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>>
> Liar! Evidence?

What lie is he telling?

On 12 Jun, 10:16, Adrian  wrote:
> Doug  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying:
>
> >> > I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its
> >> > nothing to do with you.
> >> <shrug> If that address is part of the freely available information
> >> about the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts here. Freely
> >> available information which the registrant of the domain could easily
> >> have suppressed should they have chosen to...
> > Duh! I post loads of URLs here, Adrain. Do you seriously imagine they
> > all belong to Bollen? If not how do you decide on which ones do?
>
> When the domain name is very closely related to the email address you
> post under, there's a hint of a clue.

There is also another subtle clue given when a search on Nominet (or
another relevant registry) reveals that a domain is registered by Doug
Bollen of that address in Catford.

On 12 Jun, 10:21, Doug  wrote:
> On 12 Jun, 10:16, Adrian  wrote:> Doug  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> > saying:
>
> > >> > I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its
> > >> > nothing to do with you.
> > >> <shrug> If that address is part of the freely available information
> > >> about the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts here. Freely
> > >> available information which the registrant of the domain could easily> > >> have suppressed should they have chosen to...
> > > Duh! I post loads of URLs here, Adrain. Do you seriously imagine they
> > > all belong to Bollen? If not how do you decide on which ones do?
>
> > When the domain name is very closely related to the email address you
> > post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>
> Liar! Evidence?

<sigh>

You post using the email address jagmad@riseup.net

You posted a link to http://jagjag.org/mt.mov

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport/msg/bcb058fffa7d5736?hl=en

The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name "jag"
which appears in both.

You really are crapping it aren't you!

Perhaps we can start with where i alleged you were doing ALL these actions 
rather than just point out that  IF YOU keep giving someones alleged address 
.....................                     - God why bother


"Ed Banger"  wrote in message 
news:Iuya0bGx99TIFwwC@nildram.co.uk...
> In message <%0R3k.144718$UP6.140669@newsfe14.ams2>, Tommy 
>  writes
>>
>>"BrianW"  wrote in message
>>news:26d75b05-a3c9-4533-a21c-05ab2349db8c@d1g2001hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>well done you can always tell an IT Turd - sorry Nerd :)
>
> Well, that's a fine example of how to respond when someone catches you 
> out, isn't it, Mr "Do as I say, not as I do"?
>
> I'm still waiting for the URLs of these posts that you claim I have 
> written, stating that I have been outside Duhg's house, what his garden 
> looks like, what his house looks like, the number plate of the car parked 
> nearby etc.
>
> Alternatively, how about being man enough to admit you made a mistake and 
> apologise?
>
>
> -- 
> Ed Banger

Doug  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

>> >> > I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its
>> >> > nothing to do with you.

>> >> <shrug> If that address is part of the freely available information
>> >> about the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts here. Freely
>> >> available information which the registrant of the domain could
>> >> easily have suppressed should they have chosen to...

>> > Duh! I post loads of URLs here, Adrain. Do you seriously imagine they
>> > all belong to Bollen? If not how do you decide on which ones do?

>> When the domain name is very closely related to the email address you
>> post under, there's a hint of a clue.

> Liar! Evidence?

<sigh>

Oh, ffs, Duhg... Just because you're so stupid that you wouldn't twig a 
similarity between "jagmad@" and "jagjag.org", doesn't mean that 
everybody else is.

Still, I could be tempted to believe that whoever did register the domain 
is not you and is completely separate from you, since you've not passed 
the message on to them about their breaches of the domain registration 
requirements. Either that or you're so thick that you still haven't 
actually got it registered in a real name, and they still haven't figured 
out how to suppress the postal address from being publicly available.

Hmmm. I know which is more likely. Let's hope nobody complains to the 
registrars, eh?

Interesting that the jagjag.org site which you deny any link to (apart 
from using it as hosting) provides a prominent link to your "UK Radical 
Campaigns" site that you and Mr Bollen share.

Adrian wrote:
> Doug  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying:
>
>>>>>> I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its
>>>>>> nothing to do with you.
>
>>>>> <shrug> If that address is part of the freely available
>>>>> information about the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts
>>>>> here. Freely available information which the registrant of the
>>>>> domain could easily have suppressed should they have chosen to...
>
>>>> Duh! I post loads of URLs here, Adrain. Do you seriously imagine
>>>> they all belong to Bollen? If not how do you decide on which ones
>>>> do?
>
>>> When the domain name is very closely related to the email address
>>> you post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>
>> Liar! Evidence?
>
> <sigh>
>
> Oh, ffs, Duhg... Just because you're so stupid that you wouldn't twig
> a similarity between "jagmad@" and "jagjag.org", doesn't mean that
> everybody else is.
>
> Still, I could be tempted to believe that whoever did register the
> domain is not you and is completely separate from you, since you've
> not passed the message on to them about their breaches of the domain
> registration requirements. Either that or you're so thick that you
> still haven't actually got it registered in a real name, and they
> still haven't figured out how to suppress the postal address from
> being publicly available.
>
> Hmmm. I know which is more likely. Let's hope nobody complains to the
> registrars, eh?
>
> Interesting that the jagjag.org site which you deny any link to (apart
> from using it as hosting) provides a prominent link to your "UK
> Radical Campaigns" site that you and Mr Bollen share.

I bet you can't guess the registrant details for jagjag.org can you?

OK, I'll put you out of your misery 'cause I realise you're just dying to 
know.

Registrant Name:jag jag
Registrant Organization:jag
Registrant Street1:119a Culverley Road
Registrant Street2:Catford

On 12 Jun, 10:49, "Tommy"  wrote:
> You really are crapping it aren't you!
>
> Perhaps we can start with where i alleged you were doing ALL these actions> rather than just point out that  IF YOU keep giving someones alleged address
> .....................                     - God why bother

I shall attempt a translation of the above:  "I was lying, and am
therefore unable to provide any links to back up what I said".

There, that's clearer.

On 12 Jun, 11:04, "Brimstone"  wrote:

>
> I bet you can't guess the registrant details for jagjag.org can you?
>
> OK, I'll put you out of your misery 'cause I realise you're just dying to
> know.
>
> Registrant Name:jag jag
> Registrant Organization:jag
> Registrant Street1:119a Culverley Road
> Registrant Street2:Catford

About the late nineties early 2000's (can't remember the exact date)
The electoral roll in the nearby reference library confirmed a
D.Bollen at that address, a matter of public record available to all
on request.

In message <Ji64k.218546$Bz2.137708@newsfe28.ams2>, Tommy 
 writes
>"Ed Banger"  wrote in message
>news:Iuya0bGx99TIFwwC@nildram.co.uk...
>> In message <%0R3k.144718$UP6.140669@newsfe14.ams2>, Tommy
>>  writes
>>>
>>>"BrianW"  wrote in message
>>>news:26d75b05-a3c9-4533-a21c-05ab2349db8c@d1g2001hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>>well done you can always tell an IT Turd - sorry Nerd :)
>>
>> Well, that's a fine example of how to respond when someone catches you
>> out, isn't it, Mr "Do as I say, not as I do"?
>>
>> I'm still waiting for the URLs of these posts that you claim I have
>> written, stating that I have been outside Duhg's house, what his garden
>> looks like, what his house looks like, the number plate of the car parked
>> nearby etc.
>>
>> Alternatively, how about being man enough to admit you made a mistake and
>> apologise?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ed Banger
>
>
 >You really are crapping it aren't you!
 >
 >Perhaps we can start with where i alleged you were doing ALL these 
actions
 >rather than just point out that  IF YOU keep giving someones alleged 
address
 >.....................                     - God why bother
 >
 >

No, Toomy, I'm still waiting for the the URLs of these posts that you 
claim I have written, stating that I have been outside Duhg's house, 
what his garden looks like, what his house looks like, the number plate 
of the car parked nearby etc.

I look forward to you either backing up your claims or being man enough 
to apologise for making a mistake.



-- 
Ed Banger

Brimstone wrote:

> 
> OK, I'll put you out of your misery 'cause I realise you're just dying to 
> know.
> 
> Registrant Name:jag jag
> Registrant Organization:jag
> Registrant Street1:119a Culverley Road
> Registrant Street2:Catford 

Which just happens to be the same address as is cited in the Jupiter Ace 
article we've all seen many times before written by Doug Bollen.

-- 
John Wright

"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?

You would have a bunch of people standing around in a cave, chatting and
socialising and not getting anything done!" - Professor Temple Grandin

John Wright wrote:
> Brimstone wrote:
>
>>
>> OK, I'll put you out of your misery 'cause I realise you're just
>> dying to know.
>>
>> Registrant Name:jag jag
>> Registrant Organization:jag
>> Registrant Street1:119a Culverley Road
>> Registrant Street2:Catford
>
> Which just happens to be the same address as is cited in the Jupiter
> Ace article we've all seen many times before written by Doug Bollen.

But it can't be, unless Doug Bollen moved out after writing that article and 
the Doug who posts on here and says (quite categorically) that he isn't 
Bollen moved in very soon after.

Of course, there is another possibility but that would mean that the Doug 
who posts on here and says (quite categorically) that he isn't Bollen is in 
fact, Doug Bollen. But then that would make the Doug who posts on here and 
says (quite categorically) that he isn't Bollen, a liar. And we all know how 
true that would be don't we?

"Brimstone"  gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>> Which just happens to be the same address as is cited in the Jupiter
>> Ace article we've all seen many times before written by Doug Bollen.

> But it can't be, unless Doug Bollen moved out after writing that article
> and the Doug who posts on here and says (quite categorically) that he
> isn't Bollen moved in very soon after.
> 
> Of course, there is another possibility but that would mean that the
> Doug who posts on here and says (quite categorically) that he isn't
> Bollen is in fact, Doug Bollen. But then that would make the Doug who
> posts on here and says (quite categorically) that he isn't Bollen, a
> liar. And we all know how true that would be don't we?

Well, I thought I did. But you lost me somewhere in the clarification.

Adrian wrote:
> "Brimstone"  gurgled happily, sounding
> much like they were saying:
>
>>> Which just happens to be the same address as is cited in the Jupiter
>>> Ace article we've all seen many times before written by Doug Bollen.
>
>> But it can't be, unless Doug Bollen moved out after writing that
>> article and the Doug who posts on here and says (quite
>> categorically) that he isn't Bollen moved in very soon after.
>>
>> Of course, there is another possibility but that would mean that the
>> Doug who posts on here and says (quite categorically) that he isn't
>> Bollen is in fact, Doug Bollen. But then that would make the Doug who
>> posts on here and says (quite categorically) that he isn't Bollen, a
>> liar. And we all know how true that would be don't we?
>
> Well, I thought I did. But you lost me somewhere in the clarification.

Sssshh, I'm practising DougSpeak.

Adrian wrote:
> "Brimstone"  gurgled happily, sounding
> much like they were saying:
>
>>> Which just happens to be the same address as is cited in the Jupiter
>>> Ace article we've all seen many times before written by Doug Bollen.
>
>> But it can't be, unless Doug Bollen moved out after writing that
>> article and the Doug who posts on here and says (quite
>> categorically) that he isn't Bollen moved in very soon after.
>>
>> Of course, there is another possibility but that would mean that the
>> Doug who posts on here and says (quite categorically) that he isn't
>> Bollen is in fact, Doug Bollen. But then that would make the Doug who
>> posts on here and says (quite categorically) that he isn't Bollen, a
>> liar. And we all know how true that would be don't we?
>
> Well, I thought I did. But you lost me somewhere in the clarification.

That's what clarification is for.

In message , Brimstone 
 writes
>Adrian wrote:
>> "Brimstone"  gurgled happily, sounding
>> much like they were saying:
>>
>>>> Which just happens to be the same address as is cited in the Jupiter
>>>> Ace article we've all seen many times before written by Doug Bollen.
>>
>>> But it can't be, unless Doug Bollen moved out after writing that
>>> article and the Doug who posts on here and says (quite
>>> categorically) that he isn't Bollen moved in very soon after.
>>>
>>> Of course, there is another possibility but that would mean that the
>>> Doug who posts on here and says (quite categorically) that he isn't
>>> Bollen is in fact, Doug Bollen. But then that would make the Doug who
>>> posts on here and says (quite categorically) that he isn't Bollen, a
>>> liar. And we all know how true that would be don't we?
>>
>> Well, I thought I did. But you lost me somewhere in the clarification.
>
>Sssshh, I'm practising DougSpeak.

is it as hard to learn as Toomyspeak?


-- 
Ed Banger

Ed Banger  gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

>>Sssshh, I'm practising DougSpeak.

> is it as hard to learn as Toomyspeak?

It bears slightly more resemblance to the English language - at least, at 
a first glance.

Ed Banger wrote:
> In message , Brimstone
>  writes
>> Adrian wrote:
>>> "Brimstone"  gurgled happily,
>>> sounding much like they were saying:
>>>
>>>>> Which just happens to be the same address as is cited in the
>>>>> Jupiter Ace article we've all seen many times before written by
>>>>> Doug Bollen.
>>>
>>>> But it can't be, unless Doug Bollen moved out after writing that
>>>> article and the Doug who posts on here and says (quite
>>>> categorically) that he isn't Bollen moved in very soon after.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, there is another possibility but that would mean that
>>>> the Doug who posts on here and says (quite categorically) that he
>>>> isn't Bollen is in fact, Doug Bollen. But then that would make the
>>>> Doug who posts on here and says (quite categorically) that he
>>>> isn't Bollen, a liar. And we all know how true that would be don't
>>>> we?
>>>
>>> Well, I thought I did. But you lost me somewhere in the
>>> clarification.
>>
>> Sssshh, I'm practising DougSpeak.
>
> is it as hard to learn as Toomyspeak?

The words used and their order are the same as most people, it's the meaning 
which occasionally differs. The meaning is whatever Doug wants them to mean 
at the time he says them. That might change later.

In message , Brimstone 
 writes
>Ed Banger wrote:
>> In message , Brimstone
>>  writes
>>> Adrian wrote:
>>>> "Brimstone"  gurgled happily,
>>>> sounding much like they were saying:
>>>>
>>>>>> Which just happens to be the same address as is cited in the
>>>>>> Jupiter Ace article we've all seen many times before written by
>>>>>> Doug Bollen.
>>>>
>>>>> But it can't be, unless Doug Bollen moved out after writing that
>>>>> article and the Doug who posts on here and says (quite
>>>>> categorically) that he isn't Bollen moved in very soon after.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, there is another possibility but that would mean that
>>>>> the Doug who posts on here and says (quite categorically) that he
>>>>> isn't Bollen is in fact, Doug Bollen. But then that would make the
>>>>> Doug who posts on here and says (quite categorically) that he
>>>>> isn't Bollen, a liar. And we all know how true that would be don't
>>>>> we?
>>>>
>>>> Well, I thought I did. But you lost me somewhere in the
>>>> clarification.
>>>
>>> Sssshh, I'm practising DougSpeak.
>>
>> is it as hard to learn as Toomyspeak?
>
>The words used and their order are the same as most people, it's the meaning
>which occasionally differs. The meaning is whatever Doug wants them to mean
>at the time he says them. That might change later.

Ah, so it's similar to HumptyDumptySpeak in some ways?


-- 
Ed Banger

Ed Banger wrote:
> In message , Brimstone
>  writes
>> Ed Banger wrote:
>>> In message , Brimstone
>>>  writes
>>>> Adrian wrote:
>>>>> "Brimstone"  gurgled happily,
>>>>> sounding much like they were saying:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which just happens to be the same address as is cited in the
>>>>>>> Jupiter Ace article we've all seen many times before written by
>>>>>>> Doug Bollen.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But it can't be, unless Doug Bollen moved out after writing that
>>>>>> article and the Doug who posts on here and says (quite
>>>>>> categorically) that he isn't Bollen moved in very soon after.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, there is another possibility but that would mean that
>>>>>> the Doug who posts on here and says (quite categorically) that he
>>>>>> isn't Bollen is in fact, Doug Bollen. But then that would make
>>>>>> the Doug who posts on here and says (quite categorically) that he
>>>>>> isn't Bollen, a liar. And we all know how true that would be
>>>>>> don't we?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I thought I did. But you lost me somewhere in the
>>>>> clarification.
>>>>
>>>> Sssshh, I'm practising DougSpeak.
>>>
>>> is it as hard to learn as Toomyspeak?
>>
>> The words used and their order are the same as most people, it's the
>> meaning which occasionally differs. The meaning is whatever Doug
>> wants them to mean at the time he says them. That might change later.
>
> Ah, so it's similar to HumptyDumptySpeak in some ways?

I'm open to correction but I understand that Humpty Dumpty learnt his 
language skills (sic) from Doug.

On 12 Jun, 10:37, BrianW  wrote:
> On 12 Jun, 10:21, Doug  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 12 Jun, 10:16, Adrian  wrote:> Doug  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> > > saying:
>
> > > >> > I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its
> > > >> > nothing to do with you.
> > > >> <shrug> If that address is part of the freely available information
> > > >> about the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts here. Freely
> > > >> available information which the registrant of the domain could easily
> > > >> have suppressed should they have chosen to...
> > > > Duh! I post loads of URLs here, Adrain. Do you seriously imagine they
> > > > all belong to Bollen? If not how do you decide on which ones do?
>
> > > When the domain name is very closely related to the email address you
> > > post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>
> > Liar! Evidence?
>
> <sigh>
>
> You post using the email address jag...@riseup.net
>
> You posted a link tohttp://jagjag.org/mt.mov
>
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport/msg/bcb058fffa7d5736?hl=en
>
> The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name "jag"
> which appears in both.
>
Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used, mainly because it is easy
to enter on a mobile. Try googling jag why don't you. I never cease to
be amazed at the ignorance of motorists on this NG. They must live in
a little car obsessive world of their own where common knowledge is
excluded.

--
World Carfree Network
http://www.worldcarfree.net/
Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.

Doug wrote:
> On 12 Jun, 10:37, BrianW  wrote:
>> On 12 Jun, 10:21, Doug  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 12 Jun, 10:16, Adrian  wrote:> Doug
>>>  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
>>>> saying:
>>
>>>>>>> I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its
>>>>>>> nothing to do with you.
>>>>>> <shrug> If that address is part of the freely available
>>>>>> information about the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts
>>>>>> here. Freely available information which the registrant of the
>>>>>> domain could easily have suppressed should they have chosen to...
>>>>> Duh! I post loads of URLs here, Adrain. Do you seriously imagine
>>>>> they all belong to Bollen? If not how do you decide on which ones
>>>>> do?
>>
>>>> When the domain name is very closely related to the email address
>>>> you post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>>
>>> Liar! Evidence?
>>
>> <sigh>
>>
>> You post using the email address jag...@riseup.net
>>
>> You posted a link tohttp://jagjag.org/mt.mov
>>
>> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport/msg/bcb058fffa7d5736?hl=en
>>
>> The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name "jag"
>> which appears in both.
>>
> Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used,

By whom?

"Brimstone"  gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>>> The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name "jag"
>>> which appears in both.

>> Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used,

> By whom?

By the two Duhgs. Oh, and colloquially to describe the products of a 
certain manufacturer of large cars.

In message , Brimstone 
 writes
>Doug wrote:
>> On 12 Jun, 10:37, BrianW  wrote:
>>>>> When the domain name is very closely related to the email address
>>>>> you post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>>>
>>>> Liar! Evidence?
>>>
>>> <sigh>
>>>
>>> You post using the email address jag...@riseup.net
>>>
>>> You posted a link tohttp://jagjag.org/mt.mov
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport/msg/bcb058fffa7d5736?hl=en
>>>
>>> The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name "jag"
>>> which appears in both.
>>>
>> Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used,
>
>By whom?

I find it intriguing how often Duhg says "Wrong again" when confronted 
with a truth he finds unpalatable. It's very similar to "Liar!", that 
other Pavlovian response of his.


-- 
Ed Banger

Adrian wrote:
> "Brimstone"  gurgled happily, sounding
> much like they were saying:
>
>>>> The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name "jag"
>>>> which appears in both.
>
>>> Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used,
>
>> By whom?
>
> By the two Duhgs. Oh, and colloquially to describe the products of a
> certain manufacturer of large cars.

Not forgetting that the American armed forces use it as an acronym.

Ed Banger wrote:
> In message , Brimstone
>  writes
>> Doug wrote:
>>> On 12 Jun, 10:37, BrianW  wrote:
>>>>>> When the domain name is very closely related to the email address
>>>>>> you post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>>>>
>>>>> Liar! Evidence?
>>>>
>>>> <sigh>
>>>>
>>>> You post using the email address jag...@riseup.net
>>>>
>>>> You posted a link tohttp://jagjag.org/mt.mov
>>>>
>>>> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport/msg/bcb058fffa7d5736?hl=en
>>>>
>>>> The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name "jag"
>>>> which appears in both.
>>>>
>>> Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used,
>>
>> By whom?
>
> I find it intriguing how often Duhg says "Wrong again" when confronted
> with a truth he finds unpalatable. It's very similar to "Liar!", that
> other Pavlovian response of his.

Indeed, and I can picture him (I really do wish I couldn't) sitting on the 
floor cross legged, with his eyes closed and his fingers stuck in his ears 
shouting inanities in the hope that all those who ask embarrassing questions 
that catch him out will get bored and go away.

Brimstone wrote:
> Ed Banger wrote:
>> In message , Brimstone
>>  writes
>>> Doug wrote:
>>>> On 12 Jun, 10:37, BrianW  wrote:
>>>>>>> When the domain name is very closely related to the email address
>>>>>>> you post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>>>>>> Liar! Evidence?
>>>>> <sigh>
>>>>>
>>>>> You post using the email address jag...@riseup.net
>>>>>
>>>>> You posted a link tohttp://jagjag.org/mt.mov
>>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport/msg/bcb058fffa7d5736?hl=en
>>>>>
>>>>> The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name "jag"
>>>>> which appears in both.
>>>>>
>>>> Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used,
>>> By whom?
>> I find it intriguing how often Duhg says "Wrong again" when confronted
>> with a truth he finds unpalatable. It's very similar to "Liar!", that
>> other Pavlovian response of his.
> 
> Indeed, and I can picture him (I really do wish I couldn't) sitting on the 
> floor cross legged, with his eyes closed and his fingers stuck in his ears 
> shouting inanities in the hope that all those who ask embarrassing questions 
> that catch him out will get bored and go away. 
> 
> 

If I end up visiting an awkward customer today I shall think of that 
image & smile.

-- 
Tony the Dragon

"Brimstone"  gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>>>> Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used,

>>> By whom?

>> By the two Duhgs. Oh, and colloquially to describe the products of a
>> certain manufacturer of large cars.

> Not forgetting that the American armed forces use it as an acronym.

Do they? What for?

On 13 Jun, 08:20, "Brimstone"  wrote:
> Ed Banger wrote:
> > In message , Brimstone
> >  writes
> >> Doug wrote:
> >>> On 12 Jun, 10:37, BrianW  wrote:
> >>>>>> When the domain name is very closely related to the email address
> >>>>>> you post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>
> >>>>> Liar! Evidence?
>
> >>>> <sigh>
>
> >>>> You post using the email address jag...@riseup.net
>
> >>>> You posted a link tohttp://jagjag.org/mt.mov
>
> >>>>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport/msg/bcb058fffa7d5736?hl=en
>
> >>>> The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name "jag"
> >>>> which appears in both.
>
> >>> Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used,
>
> >> By whom?
>
> > I find it intriguing how often Duhg says "Wrong again" when confronted
> > with a truth he finds unpalatable. It's very similar to "Liar!", that
> > other Pavlovian response of his.
>
> Indeed, and I can picture him (I really do wish I couldn't) sitting on the
> floor cross legged, with his eyes closed and his fingers stuck in his ears
> shouting inanities in the hope that all those who ask embarrassing questions
> that catch him out will get bored and go away.

D'yer know, I'm kind of regretting ever opening that old "Alternative
London" book.

On 13 Jun, 06:43, Doug  wrote:
> On 12 Jun, 10:37, BrianW  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 12 Jun, 10:21, Doug  wrote:
>
> > > On 12 Jun, 10:16, Adrian  wrote:> Doug  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> > > > saying:
>
> > > > >> > I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its
> > > > >> > nothing to do with you.
> > > > >> <shrug> If that address is part of the freely available information
> > > > >> about the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts here. Freely
> > > > >> available information which the registrant of the domain could easily
> > > > >> have suppressed should they have chosen to...
> > > > > Duh! I post loads of URLs here, Adrain. Do you seriously imagine they
> > > > > all belong to Bollen? If not how do you decide on which ones do?
>
> > > > When the domain name is very closely related to the email address you
> > > > post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>
> > > Liar! Evidence?
>
> > <sigh>
>
> > You post using the email address jag...@riseup.net
>
> > You posted a link tohttp://jagjag.org/mt.mov
>
> >http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport/msg/bcb058fffa7d5736?hl=en
>
> > The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name "jag"
> > which appears in both.
>
> Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used, mainly because it is easy
> to enter on a mobile. Try googling jag why don't you. I never cease to
> be amazed at the ignorance of motorists on this NG. They must live in
> a little car obsessive world of their own where common knowledge is
> excluded.

Oh, OK.  So it's pure coincidence that you and Doug Bollen both use
the name "jag", and it's also coincidence that you posted a link
belonging to Doug Bollen.  Riiiight.

Christ, Dung must think we are all as stupid as he is.

Adrian wrote:
> "Brimstone"  gurgled happily, sounding
> much like they were saying:
>
>>>>> Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used,
>
>>>> By whom?
>
>>> By the two Duhgs. Oh, and colloquially to describe the products of a
>>> certain manufacturer of large cars.
>
>> Not forgetting that the American armed forces use it as an acronym.
>
> Do they? What for?

Judge Advocate General

https://www.jagcnet.army.mil/

The UK has a similar service.

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/infoabout/rcj/ojag.htm

Squashme wrote:
> On 13 Jun, 08:20, "Brimstone"  wrote:
>> Ed Banger wrote:
>>> In message , Brimstone
>>>  writes
>>>> Doug wrote:
>>>>> On 12 Jun, 10:37, BrianW  wrote:
>>>>>>>> When the domain name is very closely related to the email
>>>>>>>> address you post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>>
>>>>>>> Liar! Evidence?
>>
>>>>>> <sigh>
>>
>>>>>> You post using the email address jag...@riseup.net
>>
>>>>>> You posted a link tohttp://jagjag.org/mt.mov
>>
>>>>>> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport/msg/bcb058fffa7d5736?hl=en
>>
>>>>>> The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name
>>>>>> "jag" which appears in both.
>>
>>>>> Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used,
>>
>>>> By whom?
>>
>>> I find it intriguing how often Duhg says "Wrong again" when
>>> confronted with a truth he finds unpalatable. It's very similar to
>>> "Liar!", that other Pavlovian response of his.
>>
>> Indeed, and I can picture him (I really do wish I couldn't) sitting
>> on the floor cross legged, with his eyes closed and his fingers
>> stuck in his ears shouting inanities in the hope that all those who
>> ask embarrassing questions that catch him out will get bored and go
>> away.
>
> D'yer know, I'm kind of regretting ever opening that old "Alternative
> London" book.

Don't, you've performed a much needed public service. Stand up and take a 
bow - virtually of course.

Brimstone wrote:
> Adrian wrote:
>> "Brimstone"  gurgled happily, sounding
>> much like they were saying:
>>
>>>>>> Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used,
>>>>> By whom?
>>>> By the two Duhgs. Oh, and colloquially to describe the products of a
>>>> certain manufacturer of large cars.
>>> Not forgetting that the American armed forces use it as an acronym.
>> Do they? What for?
> 
> Judge Advocate General
> 
> https://www.jagcnet.army.mil/


He's a painter and decorator, isn't he? Specialises in whitewashes?
> 
> The UK has a similar service.
> 
> http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/infoabout/rcj/ojag.htm
> 
> 


-- 
Moving things in still pictures!

On 13 Jun, 09:37, "Brimstone"  wrote:
> Squashme wrote:
> > On 13 Jun, 08:20, "Brimstone"  wrote:
> >> Ed Banger wrote:
> >>> In message , Brimstone
> >>>  writes
> >>>> Doug wrote:
> >>>>> On 12 Jun, 10:37, BrianW  wrote:
> >>>>>>>> When the domain name is very closely related to the email
> >>>>>>>> address you post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>
> >>>>>>> Liar! Evidence?
>
> >>>>>> <sigh>
>
> >>>>>> You post using the email address jag...@riseup.net
>
> >>>>>> You posted a link tohttp://jagjag.org/mt.mov
>
> >>>>>>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport/msg/bcb058fffa7d5736?hl=en
>
> >>>>>> The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name
> >>>>>> "jag" which appears in both.
>
> >>>>> Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used,
>
> >>>> By whom?
>
> >>> I find it intriguing how often Duhg says "Wrong again" when
> >>> confronted with a truth he finds unpalatable. It's very similar to
> >>> "Liar!", that other Pavlovian response of his.
>
> >> Indeed, and I can picture him (I really do wish I couldn't) sitting
> >> on the floor cross legged, with his eyes closed and his fingers
> >> stuck in his ears shouting inanities in the hope that all those who
> >> ask embarrassing questions that catch him out will get bored and go
> >> away.
>
> > D'yer know, I'm kind of regretting ever opening that old "Alternative
> > London" book.
>
> Don't, you've performed a much needed public service. Stand up and take a
> bow - virtually of course.

I tried. Now I've slipped a virtual disc. (They're the next thing
after DVDs apparently)

On 13 Jun, 09:05, BrianW  wrote:
> On 13 Jun, 06:43, Doug  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 12 Jun, 10:37, BrianW  wrote:
>
> > > On 12 Jun, 10:21, Doug  wrote:
>
> > > > On 12 Jun, 10:16, Adrian  wrote:> Doug  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> > > > > saying:
>
> > > > > >> > I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its
> > > > > >> > nothing to do with you.
> > > > > >> <shrug> If that address is part of the freely available information
> > > > > >> about the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts here. Freely
> > > > > >> available information which the registrant of the domain could easily
> > > > > >> have suppressed should they have chosen to...
> > > > > > Duh! I post loads of URLs here, Adrain. Do you seriously imagine they
> > > > > > all belong to Bollen? If not how do you decide on which ones do?
>
> > > > > When the domain name is very closely related to the email address you
> > > > > post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>
> > > > Liar! Evidence?
>
> > > <sigh>
>
> > > You post using the email address jag...@riseup.net
>
> > > You posted a link tohttp://jagjag.org/mt.mov
>
> > >http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport/msg/bcb058fffa7d5736?hl=en
>
> > > The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name "jag"
> > > which appears in both.
>
> > Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used, mainly because it is easy
> > to enter on a mobile. Try googling jag why don't you. I never cease to
> > be amazed at the ignorance of motorists on this NG. They must live in
> > a little car obsessive world of their own where common knowledge is
> > excluded.
>
> Oh, OK.  So it's pure coincidence that you and Doug Bollen both use
> the name "jag", and it's also coincidence that you posted a link
> belonging to Doug Bollen.  Riiiight.
>
> Christ, Dung must think we are all as stupid as he is.
>
Yes you must be very stupid Blackhead, to bang on and on endlessly at
every opportunity about a mistaken identity has every appearance of
extreme stupidity.

--
World Carfree Network
http://www.worldcarfree.net/
Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.

Doug wrote:

> On 13 Jun, 09:05, BrianW  wrote:
>> On 13 Jun, 06:43, Doug  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 12 Jun, 10:37, BrianW  wrote:
>>
>> > > On 12 Jun, 10:21, Doug  wrote:
>>
>> > > > On 12 Jun, 10:16, Adrian  wrote:> Doug
>> > > >  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
>> > > > > saying:
>>
>> > > > > >> > I see you just give an address out and IF something happens 
>> > > > > >> > its nothing to do with you.
>> > > > > >> <shrug> If that address is part of the freely available
>> > > > > >> information about the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts
>> > > > > >> here. Freely available information which the registrant of the
>> > > > > >> domain could easily have suppressed should they have chosen
>> > > > > >> to...
>> > > > > > Duh! I post loads of URLs here, Adrain. Do you seriously
>> > > > > > imagine they all belong to Bollen? If not how do you decide on
>> > > > > > which ones do?
>>
>> > > > > When the domain name is very closely related to the email address
>> > > > > you post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>>
>> > > > Liar! Evidence?
>>
>> > > <sigh>
>>
>> > > You post using the email address jag...@riseup.net
>>
>> > > You posted a link tohttp://jagjag.org/mt.mov
>>
>> >
>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport/msg/bcb058fffa7d5736?hl=en
>>
>> > > The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name "jag"
>> > > which appears in both.
>>
>> > Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used, mainly because it is easy
>> > to enter on a mobile. Try googling jag why don't you. I never cease to
>> > be amazed at the ignorance of motorists on this NG. They must live in
>> > a little car obsessive world of their own where common knowledge is
>> > excluded.
>>
>> Oh, OK.  So it's pure coincidence that you and Doug Bollen both use
>> the name "jag", and it's also coincidence that you posted a link
>> belonging to Doug Bollen.  Riiiight.
>>
>> Christ, Dung must think we are all as stupid as he is.
>>
> Yes you must be very stupid Blackhead, to bang on and on endlessly at
> every opportunity about a mistaken identity has every appearance of
> extreme stupidity.
> 
Keep digging...

On 13 Jun, 14:49, Doug  wrote:
> On 13 Jun, 09:05, BrianW  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 13 Jun, 06:43, Doug  wrote:
>
> > > On 12 Jun, 10:37, BrianW  wrote:
>
> > > > On 12 Jun, 10:21, Doug  wrote:
>
> > > > > On 12 Jun, 10:16, Adrian  wrote:> Doug  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> > > > > > saying:
>
> > > > > > >> > I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its
> > > > > > >> > nothing to do with you.
> > > > > > >> <shrug> If that address is part of the freely available information
> > > > > > >> about the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts here. Freely
> > > > > > >> available information which the registrant of the domain could easily
> > > > > > >> have suppressed should they have chosen to...
> > > > > > > Duh! I post loads of URLs here, Adrain. Do you seriously imagine they
> > > > > > > all belong to Bollen? If not how do you decide on which ones do?
>
> > > > > > When the domain name is very closely related to the email address you
> > > > > > post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>
> > > > > Liar! Evidence?
>
> > > > <sigh>
>
> > > > You post using the email address jag...@riseup.net
>
> > > > You posted a link tohttp://jagjag.org/mt.mov
>
> > > >http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport/msg/bcb058fffa7d5736?hl=en
>
> > > > The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name "jag"
> > > > which appears in both.
>
> > > Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used, mainly because it is easy> > > to enter on a mobile. Try googling jag why don't you. I never cease to> > > be amazed at the ignorance of motorists on this NG. They must live in
> > > a little car obsessive world of their own where common knowledge is
> > > excluded.
>
> > Oh, OK.  So it's pure coincidence that you and Doug Bollen both use
> > the name "jag", and it's also coincidence that you posted a link
> > belonging to Doug Bollen.  Riiiight.
>
> > Christ, Dung must think we are all as stupid as he is.
>
> Yes you must be very stupid Blackhead, to bang on and on endlessly at
> every opportunity about a mistaken identity has every appearance of
> extreme stupidity.

<snigger>

Yeah, right, Gollum.

Your pathetic attempts to deny being Doug Bollen are becoming
increasing risible.  Give it up, why don't you?

Doug wrote:
> On 13 Jun, 09:05, BrianW  wrote:
>> On 13 Jun, 06:43, Doug  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 12 Jun, 10:37, BrianW  wrote:
>>
>>>> On 12 Jun, 10:21, Doug  wrote:
>>
>>>>> On 12 Jun, 10:16, Adrian  wrote:> Doug
>>>>>  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
>>>>>> saying:
>>
>>>>>>>>> I see you just give an address out and IF something happens
>>>>>>>>> its nothing to do with you.
>>>>>>>> <shrug> If that address is part of the freely available
>>>>>>>> information about the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts
>>>>>>>> here. Freely available information which the registrant of the
>>>>>>>> domain could easily have suppressed should they have chosen
>>>>>>>> to...
>>>>>>> Duh! I post loads of URLs here, Adrain. Do you seriously
>>>>>>> imagine they all belong to Bollen? If not how do you decide on
>>>>>>> which ones do?
>>
>>>>>> When the domain name is very closely related to the email
>>>>>> address you post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>>
>>>>> Liar! Evidence?
>>
>>>> <sigh>
>>
>>>> You post using the email address jag...@riseup.net
>>
>>>> You posted a link tohttp://jagjag.org/mt.mov
>>
>>>> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport/msg/bcb058fffa7d5736?hl=en
>>
>>>> The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name "jag"
>>>> which appears in both.
>>
>>> Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used, mainly because it is
>>> easy to enter on a mobile. Try googling jag why don't you. I never
>>> cease to be amazed at the ignorance of motorists on this NG. They
>>> must live in a little car obsessive world of their own where common
>>> knowledge is excluded.
>>
>> Oh, OK.  So it's pure coincidence that you and Doug Bollen both use
>> the name "jag", and it's also coincidence that you posted a link
>> belonging to Doug Bollen.  Riiiight.
>>
>> Christ, Dung must think we are all as stupid as he is.
>>
> Yes you must be very stupid Blackhead, to bang on and on endlessly at
> every opportunity about a mistaken identity has every appearance of
> extreme stupidity.

Why are you trying to deny that you are Doug Bollen? Is there something in 
your past that he doesn't wish to be associated with?

On 13 Jun, 15:16, BrianW  wrote:
> On 13 Jun, 14:49, Doug  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 13 Jun, 09:05, BrianW  wrote:
>
> > > On 13 Jun, 06:43, Doug  wrote:
>
> > > > On 12 Jun, 10:37, BrianW  wrote:
>
> > > > > On 12 Jun, 10:21, Doug  wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 12 Jun, 10:16, Adrian  wrote:> Doug  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> > > > > > > saying:
>
> > > > > > > >> > I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its
> > > > > > > >> > nothing to do with you.
> > > > > > > >> <shrug> If that address is part of the freely available information
> > > > > > > >> about the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts here. Freely
> > > > > > > >> available information which the registrant of the domain could easily
> > > > > > > >> have suppressed should they have chosen to...
> > > > > > > > Duh! I post loads of URLs here, Adrain. Do you seriously imagine they
> > > > > > > > all belong to Bollen? If not how do you decide on which ones do?
>
> > > > > > > When the domain name is very closely related to the email address you
> > > > > > > post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>
> > > > > > Liar! Evidence?
>
> > > > > <sigh>
>
> > > > > You post using the email address jag...@riseup.net
>
> > > > > You posted a link tohttp://jagjag.org/mt.mov
>
> > > > >http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport/msg/bcb058fffa7d5736?hl=en
>
> > > > > The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name "jag"
> > > > > which appears in both.
>
> > > > Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used, mainly because it is easy
> > > > to enter on a mobile. Try googling jag why don't you. I never cease to
> > > > be amazed at the ignorance of motorists on this NG. They must live in
> > > > a little car obsessive world of their own where common knowledge is
> > > > excluded.
>
> > > Oh, OK.  So it's pure coincidence that you and Doug Bollen both use
> > > the name "jag", and it's also coincidence that you posted a link
> > > belonging to Doug Bollen.  Riiiight.
>
> > > Christ, Dung must think we are all as stupid as he is.
>
> > Yes you must be very stupid Blackhead, to bang on and on endlessly at
> > every opportunity about a mistaken identity has every appearance of
> > extreme stupidity.
>
> <snigger>
>
> Yeah, right, Gollum.
>
> Your pathetic attempts to deny being Doug Bollen are becoming
> increasing risible.  Give it up, why don't you?

According to the electoral roll there is only one occupant of the
famed address in Catford, his name is recorded as D Bollen therefore
it can't be doug, he must live elsewhere, probably is flat mates with
MrNatural and all the others.

NM

On 13 Jun, 16:11, NM  wrote:
> On 13 Jun, 15:16, BrianW  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 13 Jun, 14:49, Doug  wrote:
>
> > > On 13 Jun, 09:05, BrianW  wrote:
>
> > > > On 13 Jun, 06:43, Doug  wrote:
>
> > > > > On 12 Jun, 10:37, BrianW  wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 12 Jun, 10:21, Doug  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On 12 Jun, 10:16, Adrian  wrote:> Doug  gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> > > > > > > > saying:
>
> > > > > > > > >> > I see you just give an address out and IF something happens  its
> > > > > > > > >> > nothing to do with you.
> > > > > > > > >> <shrug> If that address is part of the freely available information
> > > > > > > > >> about the registrant of a domain which Duhg posts here. Freely
> > > > > > > > >> available information which the registrant of the domain could easily
> > > > > > > > >> have suppressed should they have chosen to...
> > > > > > > > > Duh! I post loads of URLs here, Adrain. Do you seriously imagine they
> > > > > > > > > all belong to Bollen? If not how do you decide on which ones do?
>
> > > > > > > > When the domain name is very closely related to the email address you
> > > > > > > > post under, there's a hint of a clue.
>
> > > > > > > Liar! Evidence?
>
> > > > > > <sigh>
>
> > > > > > You post using the email address jag...@riseup.net
>
> > > > > > You posted a link tohttp://jagjag.org/mt.mov
>
> > > > > >http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.transport/msg/bcb058fffa7d5736?hl=en
>
> > > > > > The hint of a clue Adrian refers to is in the (unusual) name "jag"
> > > > > > which appears in both.
>
> > > > > Wrong again, as usual. 'Jag' is widely used, mainly because it is easy
> > > > > to enter on a mobile. Try googling jag why don't you. I never cease to
> > > > > be amazed at the ignorance of motorists on this NG. They must live in
> > > > > a little car obsessive world of their own where common knowledge is
> > > > > excluded.
>
> > > > Oh, OK.  So it's pure coincidence that you and Doug Bollen both use
> > > > the name "jag", and it's also coincidence that you posted a link
> > > > belonging to Doug Bollen.  Riiiight.
>
> > > > Christ, Dung must think we are all as stupid as he is.
>
> > > Yes you must be very stupid Blackhead, to bang on and on endlessly at
> > > every opportunity about a mistaken identity has every appearance of
> > > extreme stupidity.
>
> > <snigger>
>
> > Yeah, right, Gollum.
>
> > Your pathetic attempts to deny being Doug Bollen are becoming
> > increasing risible.  Give it up, why don't you?
>
> According to the electoral roll there is only one occupant of the
> famed address in Catford, his name is recorded as D Bollen therefore
> it can't be doug, he must live elsewhere, probably is flat mates with
> MrNatural and all the others.

Perhaps Doug lives in Mr Bollen's shed?

Tony Dragon wrote:
> John Wright wrote:
>> BrianW wrote:
>>> On 11 Jun, 11:52, "Tommy"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do you wish someone to go round his house and beat him up or destroy 
>>>> his
>>>> property?
>>>
>>> I don't, which is why I don't post his address.  Having said that, if
>>> someone hoyed a brick through one of Gollum's windows, I would have a
>>> wry laugh at the irony of tactics he supports and justifies being used
>>> against him.
>>
>> I know the address that's been posted in this group many times, and 
>> backed up by various websites that have had their urls posted. But I 
>> would no more think of heaving a brick through the window of that 
>> address than of anything else. Even though he claims not to be the 
>> person who lives there.
>>
>> As I say in some places, I tend not to stab people in their sleep.
>>
> 
> You mean you like to see their face.

As a friend of mine said some long time ago, not seeing someone's face 
depersonalizes the whole concept of violence. Which was his 
justification for opposing nuclear weapons. Pretty far fetched if you 
asked me. He said he preferred a knife and it had to be from the front.

-- 
John Wright

"What would happen if you eliminated the autism genes from the gene pool?

You would have a bunch of people standing around in a cave, chatting and
socialising and not getting anything done!" - Professor Temple Grandin

On 13 Jun, 19:09, John Wright  wrote:
> Tony Dragon wrote:
> > John Wright wrote:
> >> BrianW wrote:
> >>> On 11 Jun, 11:52, "Tommy"  wrote:
>
> >>>> Do you wish someone to go round his house and beat him up or destroy
> >>>> his
> >>>> property?
>
> >>> I don't, which is why I don't post his address.  Having said that, if
> >>> someone hoyed a brick through one of Gollum's windows, I would have a
> >>> wry laugh at the irony of tactics he supports and justifies being used
> >>> against him.
>
> >> I know the address that's been posted in this group many times, and
> >> backed up by various websites that have had their urls posted. But I
> >> would no more think of heaving a brick through the window of that
> >> address than of anything else. Even though he claims not to be the
> >> person who lives there.
>
> >> As I say in some places, I tend not to stab people in their sleep.
>
> > You mean you like to see their face.
>
> As a friend of mine said some long time ago, not seeing someone's face
> depersonalizes the whole concept of violence.

That's one of the problems with motorists, and hoodies, and muslim
women in the full rig, and of course cycle helmets and sunglasses.
Possibly nuns sometimes.

In message , John Wright 
 writes
>Tony Dragon wrote: