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date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:57:34 +0100,    group: uk.transport        back       
About cyclists going the wrong way   
Since riding the wrong along one streets has become topical I took the
opportunity of taking these photos.

The first photo
http://www.david.eazyrider.co.uk/public/DSCN9864s.JPG
shows a footway and a road with no entry.

As can be seen in the second photo of the other end of the path the footway
is the official cycle route
http://www.david.eazyrider.co.uk/public/DSCN9867s.JPG

Ok, so perhaps someone could offer advice to a rider approaching the no
entry - should they do the legal thing and weave amongst the pedestrians or
do the safe but illegal thing and ride along the nice wide road?

The cyclist actually has a third option. Which is to go where the cars go
and turn right to join a three lane carriageway and then filter across all
three lanes. To add to the fun, if the traffic light is red, the law abiding
rider can enhance the adrenalin boost while doing it through an accelerating
melee.

I also notice that in the second photo my camera developed a strange flaw
where its sensor put a Fiesta shaped object in the picture. What are the
chances of that? From where I took the picture it looks just like some
motorist has driven on the pavement and parked on double yellows. Obviously
time for a new camera.
date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:57:34 +0100   author:   DavidR

Re: About cyclists going the wrong way   
DavidR wrote:
> Since riding the wrong along one streets has become topical I took the
> opportunity of taking these photos.
> 
> The first photo
> http://www.david.eazyrider.co.uk/public/DSCN9864s.JPG
> shows a footway and a road with no entry.

  It shows two carriageways, and one no entry sign.

> As can be seen in the second photo of the other end of the path the footway
> is the official cycle route
> http://www.david.eazyrider.co.uk/public/DSCN9867s.JPG

  Nothing to stop motor vehicles driving along either carriageway.

> Ok, so perhaps someone could offer advice to a rider approaching the no
> entry - should they do the legal thing and weave amongst the pedestrians or
> do the safe but illegal thing and ride along the nice wide road?

  Ride straight amongst the pedestrians on the carriageway.

> I also notice that in the second photo my camera developed a strange flaw
> where its sensor put a Fiesta shaped object in the picture.

  Rather than weaving amongst the unloading cars and pedestrians on the 
other carriageway.
date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:03:58 +0100   author:   Nick Finnigan

Re: About cyclists going the wrong way   
"DavidR"  wrote in message 
news:6b884sF3ah1ciU1@mid.individual.net...
> Since riding the wrong along one streets has become topical I took the
> opportunity of wasting your time on a purile troll attempt

Ask an adult to help you with the big words
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069837
date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:59:40 +0100   author:   Gizmo. mo?

Re: About cyclists going the wrong way   
DavidR wrote:
> Since riding the wrong along one streets has become topical I took the
> opportunity of taking these photos.
> 
> The first photo
> http://www.david.eazyrider.co.uk/public/DSCN9864s.JPG
> shows a footway and a road with no entry.
> 
> As can be seen in the second photo of the other end of the path the footway
> is the official cycle route
> http://www.david.eazyrider.co.uk/public/DSCN9867s.JPG
> 
> Ok, so perhaps someone could offer advice to a rider approaching the no
> entry - should they do the legal thing and weave amongst the pedestrians or
> do the safe but illegal thing and ride along the nice wide road?
> 
> The cyclist actually has a third option. Which is to go where the cars go
> and turn right to join a three lane carriageway and then filter across all
> three lanes. To add to the fun, if the traffic light is red, the law abiding
> rider can enhance the adrenalin boost while doing it through an accelerating
> melee.
>

And the fourth option is to dismount and wheel the bike for a few yards.

> I also notice that in the second photo my camera developed a strange flaw
> where its sensor put a Fiesta shaped object in the picture. What are the
> chances of that? From where I took the picture it looks just like some
> motorist has driven on the pavement and parked on double yellows. Obviously
> time for a new camera.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Moving things in still pictures!
date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:06:37 +0100   author:   ®i©ardo

Re: About cyclists going the wrong way   
"Nick Finnigan"  wrote
> DavidR wrote:
>> Since riding the wrong along one streets has become topical I took the
>> opportunity of taking these photos.
>>
>> The first photo
>> http://www.david.eazyrider.co.uk/public/DSCN9864s.JPG
>> shows a footway and a road with no entry.
>
>  It shows two carriageways, and one no entry sign.

The other no entry sign is not in picture. The "other" carriageway can not 
physically be used be used by four+ wheelers. The bollards in the foreground 
are a bit of a give away.
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:40:17 +0100   author:   DavidR

Re: About cyclists going the wrong way   
"Gizmo." <mo¬01@ltlrm3.com> wrote
> "DavidR"  wrote

>> Since riding the wrong along one streets has become topical I took the
>> opportunity of wasting your time on a purile troll attempt

Well, thank you for such a constructive comment.

> Ask an adult to help you with the big words
> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069837

I see that you assume the HC is some kind of religious relic that must be 
obeyed for fear of heavenly retribution.

If someone posts matter regarding content of the HC -
~ cycling amongst pedestrians
~ one way streets
~ use of traffic lights
~ driving the pavement
~ parking on double yellows
you might have thought they have some inkling of what it's about.

Isn't the HC actualy supposed to be a set of rules/guidelines to promote 
convenience, responsibility and safety? What happens when the rules conflict 
with these ideals?

And where was I admitting that *I* disobeyed any of it?
date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:36:36 +0100   author:   DavidR

Re: About cyclists going the wrong way   
DavidR wrote:
> "Gizmo." <mo¬01@ltlrm3.com> wrote
>> "DavidR"  wrote
> 
>>> Since riding the wrong along one streets has become topical I took the
>>> opportunity of wasting your time on a purile troll attempt
> 
> Well, thank you for such a constructive comment.
> 
>> Ask an adult to help you with the big words
>> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069837
> 
> I see that you assume the HC is some kind of religious relic that must be 
> obeyed for fear of heavenly retribution.
> 
> If someone posts matter regarding content of the HC -
> ~ cycling amongst pedestrians
> ~ one way streets
> ~ use of traffic lights
> ~ driving the pavement
> ~ parking on double yellows
> you might have thought they have some inkling of what it's about.
> 
> Isn't the HC actualy supposed to be a set of rules/guidelines to promote 
> convenience, responsibility and safety? What happens when the rules conflict 
> with these ideals?

Some of the HC rules *do* conflict with convenience - deliberately so in 
the interests of responsibility and safety.

What's wrong with that (within reason)?
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:57:07 +0100   author:   JNugent

Re: About cyclists going the wrong way   
DavidR wrote:
> "Nick Finnigan"  wrote
> 
>>DavidR wrote:
>>
>>>Since riding the wrong along one streets has become topical I took the
>>>opportunity of taking these photos.
>>>
>>>The first photo
>>>http://www.david.eazyrider.co.uk/public/DSCN9864s.JPG
>>>shows a footway and a road with no entry.
>>
>> It shows two carriageways, and one no entry sign.
> 
> 
> The other no entry sign is not in picture. The "other" carriageway can not 
> physically be used be used by four+ wheelers. The bollards in the foreground 
> are a bit of a give away.

  It can be used by four wheelers. Even if it had obstructions at all 
possible entry points it would still be a carriageway.
date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:14:37 +0100   author:   Nick Finnigan

Re: About cyclists going the wrong way   
"JNugent"  wrote
> DavidR wrote:

>> Isn't the HC actualy supposed to be a set of rules/guidelines to promote
>> convenience, responsibility and safety? What happens when the rules
>> conflict with these ideals?
>
> Some of the HC rules *do* conflict with convenience - deliberately so in
> the interests of responsibility and safety.
>
> What's wrong with that (within reason)?

Usually nothing if it's a safety OR convenience issue. The HC needs to err
on the safety side and by and large gets it right.

The problem is when it becomes an issue where safety AND convenience are
compromised, more likely caused by road layout than the HC. Something a 
cyclist is more likely to encounter than a driver. In the specific 
situation
I give, cyclists mingling with pedestrians is definitely a worse option
than disobeying the law. So, yes I disobey the law here. I don't like 
mixing with pedestrians (or rather, as pedestrian, I don't like mixing with 
cyclists) so it is a genuine attempt to be responsible, by the way.

Beyond the far end of this piece of road, it joins another that I would
definitely not attempt to contraflow.
date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:14:46 +0100   author:   DavidR

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