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date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:43:40 +0100,    group: uk.transport        back       
Paging Doug - how much mobility is "hypermobility"?   
As a relative newcomer to this group I've obviously missed your definition.

How much travel is a reasonable amount in your eyes?

-- 
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger , then I hide until it goes away"

www.drzoidberg.co.uk
date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:43:40 +0100   author:   Dr Zoidberg AlexNOOO!!!!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk

Re: Paging Doug - how much mobility is "hypermobility"?   
On 10 Jun, 14:43, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOO!!!!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk>
wrote:
> As a relative newcomer to this group I've obviously missed your definition.
>
> How much travel is a reasonable amount in your eyes?

It's quite simple.  Gollum's approach to everything in life, including
travel, is as follows.  If it is done by him and/or his mates, on
behalf of him and/or his mates, or in the furtherance of an activity
of which he approves, it is OK.  If not, then it is not OK.

For example, the following are OK:

- flying food into the country
- transporting said food by HGV to Tescos in Catford
- driving to a graveyard to dig up someone's granny
- driving to a children's nursery in order to firebomb it

The following are not OK:

- driving to work
- taking your family for a day out
date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:37:53 -0700 (PDT)   author:   BrianW

Re: Paging Doug - how much mobility is "hypermobility"?   
BrianW wrote:
> On 10 Jun, 14:43, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOO!!!!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> As a relative newcomer to this group I've obviously missed your
>> definition.
>>
>> How much travel is a reasonable amount in your eyes?
>
> It's quite simple.  Gollum's approach to everything in life, including
> travel, is as follows.  If it is done by him and/or his mates, on
> behalf of him and/or his mates, or in the furtherance of an activity
> of which he approves, it is OK.  If not, then it is not OK.
>
> For example, the following are OK:
>
> - flying food into the country
> - transporting said food by HGV to Tescos in Catford
> - driving to a graveyard to dig up someone's granny
> - driving to a children's nursery in order to firebomb it
>
> The following are not OK:
>
> - driving to work
> - taking your family for a day out

You overlooked a point in the last list.

- everything else
date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:06:56 +0100   author:   Brimstone

Re: Paging Doug - how much mobility is "hypermobility"?   
"Brimstone"  wrote in message 
news:hOydnZAWgJsXBdPVnZ2dnUVZ8vCdnZ2d@bt.com...

Sorry Brimy - a scrounger livingon benefits  in a council flat is not 
allowed a comment :)
date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:18:45 +0100   author:   Tommy

Re: Paging Doug - how much mobility is "hypermobility"?   
On 10 Jun, 16:18, "Tommy"  wrote:
> "Brimstone"  wrote in message
>
> news:hOydnZAWgJsXBdPVnZ2dnUVZ8vCdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> Sorry Brimy - a scrounger livingon benefits  in a council flat is not
> allowed a comment :)

How dare you try and deny Doug a say on this thread.
date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:25:35 -0700 (PDT)   author:   BrianW

Re: Paging Doug - how much mobility is "hypermobility"?   
Tommy wrote:
> "Brimstone"  wrote in message
> news:hOydnZAWgJsXBdPVnZ2dnUVZ8vCdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> Sorry Brimy - a scrounger livingon benefits  in a council flat is not
> allowed a comment :)

I've got no objection to you posting a comment if you wish.
date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:17:43 +0100   author:   Brimstone

Re: Paging Doug - how much mobility is "hypermobility"?   
On 10 Jun, 14:43, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOO!!!!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk>
wrote:
> As a relative newcomer to this group I've obviously missed your definition.
>
> How much travel is a reasonable amount in your eyes?
>
Well, as has been pointed out in the thread 'New ways to combat
hypermobility' many people do not travel far from home. So, obviously,
anything in excess of that must be hypermobility, extreme examples of
which would include flying half way around the world on holiday and
commuting long distances. Lesser examples might be the use of out-of-
town shopping centres and driving to a country pub at weekends.

Another approach is to try to assess the relative importance of a
journey. Taking a dying person to a distant hospital should not be
regarded as hypermobility but just driving for the fun of it, even a
short distance, is obviously.

--
World Carfree Network
http://www.worldcarfree.net/
Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.
date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:03:23 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Doug

Re: Paging Doug - how much mobility is "hypermobility"?   
Doug wrote:
> On 10 Jun, 14:43, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOO!!!!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> As a relative newcomer to this group I've obviously missed your
>> definition.
>>
>> How much travel is a reasonable amount in your eyes?
>>
> Well, as has been pointed out in the thread 'New ways to combat
> hypermobility' many people do not travel far from home. So, obviously,
> anything in excess of that must be hypermobility, extreme examples of
> which would include flying half way around the world on holiday and
> commuting long distances. Lesser examples might be the use of out-of-
> town shopping centres and driving to a country pub at weekends.

So, just for further clarification, how far is it acceptable to fly from the 
UK on holiday?

> Another approach is to try to assess the relative importance of a
> journey. Taking a dying person to a distant hospital should not be
> regarded as hypermobility but just driving for the fun of it, even a
> short distance, is obviously.

"Is obviously" what?
date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:41:48 +0100   author:   Brimstone

Re: Paging Doug - how much mobility is "hypermobility"?   
"Brimstone"  wrote in message 
news:84-dnQLtQ8EoHNLVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
> Doug wrote:
>> On 10 Jun, 14:43, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOO!!!!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>> As a relative newcomer to this group I've obviously missed your
>>> definition.
>>>
>>> How much travel is a reasonable amount in your eyes?
>>>
>> Well, as has been pointed out in the thread 'New ways to combat
>> hypermobility' many people do not travel far from home. So, obviously,
>> anything in excess of that must be hypermobility, extreme examples of
>> which would include flying half way around the world on holiday and
>> commuting long distances. Lesser examples might be the use of out-of-
>> town shopping centres and driving to a country pub at weekends.
>
> So, just for further clarification, how far is it acceptable to fly from 
> the UK on holiday?

Such places as; Marrakech, Fez, The Atlas Mountains, Sahara Desert ... all 
totally acceptable. Anything further would constitute "hypermobility", 
unless Doug has been there in which case there's an automatic exemption.
;o)
date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:09:43 +0100   author:   Gizmo.

Re: Paging Doug - how much mobility is "hypermobility"?   
On Jun 11, 6:03 am, Doug  wrote:
> On 10 Jun, 14:43, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOO!!!!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk>
> wrote:> As a relative newcomer to this group I've obviously missed your definition.
>
> > How much travel is a reasonable amount in your eyes?
>
> Well, as has been pointed out in the thread 'New ways to combat
> hypermobility' many people do not travel far from home.
> Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.

so you now are happy to accept that most people are not hypermobile?

Excellent, I've made some progress with  you.

Fod
date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:58:38 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Fod

Re: Paging Doug - how much mobility is "hypermobility"?   
On 11 Jun, 09:58, Fod  wrote:
> On Jun 11, 6:03 am, Doug  wrote:
>
> > On 10 Jun, 14:43, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOO!!!!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk>
> > wrote:> As a relative newcomer to this group I've obviously missed your definition.
>
> > > How much travel is a reasonable amount in your eyes?
>
> > Well, as has been pointed out in the thread 'New ways to combat
> > hypermobility' many people do not travel far from home.
> > Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.
>
> so you now are happy to accept that most people are not hypermobile?
>
> Excellent, I've made some progress with  you.
>
I wouldn't call you overlooking the obvious 'progress'. Surely you are
not trying to deny that some people travel far from home on holidays
and when commuting, etc?

Another point. If lots of people don't travel far from home why do
they need cars?

--
Carfree Cities
http://www.carfree.com/
Promoting practical alternatives to car dependence - walking, cycling
and public transport.
date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:07:05 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Doug

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