And the government is prepared to break the law on your behalf. I
guess you won't mind being scabs will you, motorists? Seeing as how
you all loathe public protests and protesters.

"...He confirmed that contingency plans were being put in place in
preparation for the strike. Government sources say that if a strike
affected other fuel companies or there were the merest hint of copycat
action, it will invoke emergency powers which could order soldiers to
drive tankers for oil companies.

The Government has already activated a memorandum of understanding
allowing the oil companies to co-operate with one another, exchanging
information about their stock levels, without being accused of acting
as a cartel.

Under normal circumstances such collaboration would be illegal and in
breach of competition law. The deal was struck with officials and oil
company representatives last Friday to allow companies to move fuel
around the country to the areas and petrol stations where it is most
needed, effectively sanctioning the fuel industry jointly to solve any
distribution and logistical challenges...."

More:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4103812.ece

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On 10 Jun, 14:34, Doug  wrote:
> And the government is prepared to break the law on your behalf. I
> guess you won't mind being scabs will you, motorists? Seeing as how
> you all loathe public protests and protesters.

We wouldn't be scabs, would we Gollum, as we wouldn't be crossing
picket lines.  Christ, you are thick.

On 10 Jun, 14:34, Doug  wrote:
> And the government is prepared to break the law on your behalf. I

It sounds quite Stalinist, I would have thought that you would like
that.

It is what the government did in the fire brigade strikes a few years
ago, and I think they have done similar with ambulance strikes.

Of course if they don't do this, then you would not be able to have
your fruit and veg flown in from New Zealand, and then transported
around the country for you.

On 10 Jun, 15:07, BrianW  wrote:
> On 10 Jun, 14:34, Doug  wrote:
>
> > And the government is prepared to break the law on your behalf. I
> > guess you won't mind being scabs will you, motorists? Seeing as how
> > you all loathe public protests and protesters.

Doug, what we hate is *your* type of protests. i.e. the ones where you
turn up with baseball bats, bricks, throwing paint, guns, explosives
etc. I have been on many peaceful protests myself and also gone on
strike..

> We wouldn't be scabs, would we Gollum, as we wouldn't be crossing
> picket lines.  Christ, you are thick.

Will Doug, by his own definition, be a scab when he goes into his
local shop to buy his food?

In article <b7790dfd-8651-4b28-ad87-228931c636dc@
79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...

> "...He confirmed that contingency plans were being put in place in
> preparation for the strike. Government sources say that if a strike
> affected other fuel companies or there were the merest hint of copycat
> action, it will invoke emergency powers which could order soldiers to
> drive tankers for oil companies.
> 
Won't/Can't happen. Not enough of them are Hazchem trained and/or 
trained in using fuel tankers. The only thing putting untrained 
soldiers in tankers would achieve is a high accident rate, massive 
pollution when the stupid twats don't hook up the hoses properly and 
send 30,000 litres of fuel down the nearest drains and the wrong fuel 
being put in the wrong tanks. It's not a job just anyone with a licence 
can do. 

Having driven in the Army and seen plenty of ex-Forces drivers in their 
first year out of the Army etc, the last place I'd want any of them is 
in a tanker.




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I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article <45aac4de-33ab-4c85-9675-7ee0f5600aa7@
56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>, NotMe says...
> On 10 Jun, 14:34, Doug  wrote:
> > And the government is prepared to break the law on your behalf. I
> 
> It sounds quite Stalinist, I would have thought that you would like
> that.
> 
> It is what the government did in the fire brigade strikes a few years
> ago, and I think they have done similar with ambulance strikes.

And we all know how well that turned out. Can you imagine untrained 
squaddies let loose with 30,000 litres of fuel?


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"Conor"  wrote in message 
news:6b7lbhF38bkrgU1@mid.individual.net...
> In article <b7790dfd-8651-4b28-ad87-228931c636dc@
> 79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...
>
>> "...He confirmed that contingency plans were being put in place in
>> preparation for the strike. Government sources say that if a strike
>> affected other fuel companies or there were the merest hint of copycat
>> action, it will invoke emergency powers which could order soldiers to
>> drive tankers for oil companies.
>>
> Won't/Can't happen.

Not least because four days, the planned duration of the strike, is about 
the reserve held by any petrol station and because around 90% of stations 
ought to receive deliveries as normal.

Colin Bignell

NotMe wrote:
> On 10 Jun, 15:07, BrianW  wrote:
>> On 10 Jun, 14:34, Doug  wrote:
>>
>>> And the government is prepared to break the law on your behalf. I
>>> guess you won't mind being scabs will you, motorists? Seeing as how
>>> you all loathe public protests and protesters.
> 
> Doug, what we hate is *your* type of protests. i.e. the ones where you
> turn up with baseball bats, bricks, throwing paint, guns, explosives
> etc. I have been on many peaceful protests myself and also gone on
> strike..
> 
>> We wouldn't be scabs, would we Gollum, as we wouldn't be crossing
>> picket lines.  Christ, you are thick.
> 
> Will Doug, by his own definition, be a scab when he goes into his
> local shop to buy his food?

I can just see it: the master scab on "pick it" duty.

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"Doug"  wrote
> I guess you won't mind being scabs will you, motorists?




Yet again, you blew it before you even got going.

Why don't you learn to debate in an adult way? You might win somebody over.




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http://trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=32454

Knight Of The Road wrote:
> "Doug"  wrote
>> I guess you won't mind being scabs will you, motorists?
>
>
>
>
> Yet again, you blew it before you even got going.
>
> Why don't you learn to debate in an adult way?

Why would anyone in their second childhood behave like an adult?

> You might win somebody
> over.

He doesn't want to. The conflict reinforces his view that everyone else is 
wrong and adds to his self deception of moral superiority.

"Brimstone"  wrote



> He doesn't want to. The conflict reinforces his view that everyone else is 
> wrong and adds to his self deception of moral superiority.
>

The irony is that I bet that if you met him in the flesh and talked to him, 
he would be a very likeable person.

He seems to use Usenet as an outlet for his less sane side and if that helps 
to get him through the night then there's nothing wrong with that.



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http://trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=32454

Knight Of The Road wrote:
> "Brimstone"  wrote
>
>
>
>> He doesn't want to. The conflict reinforces his view that everyone
>> else is wrong and adds to his self deception of moral superiority.
>>
>
> The irony is that I bet that if you met him in the flesh and talked
> to him, he would be a very likeable person.
>
> He seems to use Usenet as an outlet for his less sane side and if
> that helps to get him through the night then there's nothing wrong
> with that.

Up to a point I agree with you. It's just a shame that dominates this NG and 
makes discussion on anything other than cars difficult.

On 10 Jun, 15:17, NotMe  wrote:
> On 10 Jun, 15:07, BrianW  wrote:
>
> > On 10 Jun, 14:34, Doug  wrote:
>
> > > And the government is prepared to break the law on your behalf. I
> > > guess you won't mind being scabs will you, motorists? Seeing as how
> > > you all loathe public protests and protesters.
>
> Doug, what we hate is *your* type of protests. i.e. the ones where you
> turn up with baseball bats, bricks, throwing paint, guns, explosives
> etc. I have been on many peaceful protests myself and also gone on
> strike..
>
Wrong again. The motorists who dominate and infest this transport
newsgroup have, for example,
tried to demonise and call 'nutters' peaceful protesters at Total
filling stations, who were protesting about human rights and who were
deliberately rammed by motorists. The excuse always used by motorists
here is that protest should not interfere with people going about
their lawful business. So how is this different to the present fuel
price blockades by hauliers and farmers? Are they all nutters too?

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Doug wrote:
> On 10 Jun, 15:17, NotMe  wrote:
>> On 10 Jun, 15:07, BrianW  wrote:
>>
>>> On 10 Jun, 14:34, Doug  wrote:
>>
>>>> And the government is prepared to break the law on your behalf. I
>>>> guess you won't mind being scabs will you, motorists? Seeing as how
>>>> you all loathe public protests and protesters.
>>
>> Doug, what we hate is *your* type of protests. i.e. the ones where
>> you turn up with baseball bats, bricks, throwing paint, guns,
>> explosives etc. I have been on many peaceful protests myself and
>> also gone on strike..
>>
> Wrong again. The motorists who dominate and infest this transport
> newsgroup have, for example,
> tried to demonise and call 'nutters' peaceful protesters at Total
> filling stations, who were protesting about human rights and who were
> deliberately rammed by motorists. The excuse always used by motorists
> here is that protest should not interfere with people going about
> their lawful business. So how is this different to the present fuel
> price blockades by hauliers and farmers? Are they all nutters too?

What "present blockades"?

In article <145aeafc-de92-4960-80e8-da320df60468
@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, Doug says...

> Wrong again. The motorists who dominate and infest this transport
> newsgroup have, for example,
> tried to demonise and call 'nutters' peaceful protesters at Total
> filling stations, 

Because they are nutters.

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"Conor"  wrote in message 
news:6b7lcpF38bkrgU2@mid.individual.net...
> In article <45aac4de-33ab-4c85-9675-7ee0f5600aa7@
> 56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>, NotMe says...
>> On 10 Jun, 14:34, Doug  wrote:
>> > And the government is prepared to break the law on your behalf. I
>>
>> It sounds quite Stalinist, I would have thought that you would like
>> that.
>>
>> It is what the government did in the fire brigade strikes a few years
>> ago, and I think they have done similar with ambulance strikes.
>
> And we all know how well that turned out. Can you imagine untrained
> squaddies let loose with 30,000 litres of fuel?
>
It is indeed fortunate that civvy petrol tanker drivers are willing to take 
fuel into war zones for our tanks to use.

Or are there no petroleum supply units in the Army?

In article <p7h4k.134073$Zs3.75818@newsfe20.ams2>, Ian D Henden says...

> > And we all know how well that turned out. Can you imagine untrained
> > squaddies let loose with 30,000 litres of fuel?
> >
> It is indeed fortunate that civvy petrol tanker drivers are willing to take 
> fuel into war zones for our tanks to use.
> 
> Or are there no petroleum supply units in the Army? 
> 
Lots of civvies driving tankers in Iraq. The Army have their own of 
course, but nowhere near in enough numbers to take over from Hoyers 
drivers.


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