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date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:18:08 +0100,
group: uk.transport
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Re: Train ticket checks
In message , at 13:04:08 on
Sat, 7 Jun 2008, Alasdair remarked:
>>And what does one do when the exact circumstances in question have never
>>created a binding precedent?
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>>Go to a court and ask, I assume - but this is simply evidence that you
>>can't look everything up in "documents" in advance, and therefore be
>>sure that everything you do is 'legal'). That's all. Nothing more
>>sinister than that.
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>The law is not an exact science like maths or physics so that every
>possible action or failure to act in every possible set of
>circumstances is covered. Were it otherwise, there would be no need
>for court cases and the lawyers would go out of business.
Thankyou. That's exactly the same sentiment as I'm trying to express.
In other words, you can't find every answer in "all the law from every
source" (or anywhere else) a lot of the time.
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Roland Perry
date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:49:35 +0100
author: Roland Perry
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Re: Train ticket checks
In message
keith wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:10:40 +0100, Roland Perry
> wrote:
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> >In message , at 13:56:04 on
> >Sat, 7 Jun 2008, Peter Masson remarked:
> >>> Therefore unless you are in circumstances which *are* covered by the
> >>> bylaws I would still say that you do not have to have a ticket.
> >>
> >>You take that line if you like, and if you are prepared to argue it to
> >>magistrates. I will retain my ticket until it is officially collected or I
> >>am off railway premises. Maybe over cautious, but erring on the safe side.
> >
> >"Keith" has been given this advice several times now, but fails to
> >accept it.
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> It may be advice - but it was not what I was really looking for.
>
> I would not take issue with Peter - he has offered it as straight
> common sense advice. You however have offered a point of view
> regarding the actual legal position which I have now asked you to back
> up and you can't.
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> I was posting in uk.legal as I was looking for a legal point of view.
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When does your case come up? Do let us know what happens.
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Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at <http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html>
date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:18:08 +0100
author: Graeme Wall
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