Test. Please ignore.

On 23/07/2008 08:54, Test wrote:

> Test. Please ignore.

Use a proper test group!

Test wrote:
> Test. Please ignore.
> 
Test failed, missed the multitude of tests groups by a mile. Put your 
computer back in the box, take it back to the shop and buy a notepad and 
pencil instead.

In news:o4mdnZKMbqi_aBvVnZ2dnUVZ8svinZ2d@posted.plusnet,
Andy Burns  typed, for some strange, 
unexplained reason:
: On 23/07/2008 08:54, Test wrote:
:
: > Test. Please ignore.
:
: Use a proper test group!

Sigh.. this one's been done before. There are valid reasons for posting 
test messages to normal groups. Test groups don't always test what needs 
testing.

Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:
> In news:o4mdnZKMbqi_aBvVnZ2dnUVZ8svinZ2d@posted.plusnet,
> Andy Burns  typed, for some strange, 
> unexplained reason:
> : On 23/07/2008 08:54, Test wrote:
> :
> : > Test. Please ignore.
> :
> : Use a proper test group!
> 
> Sigh.. this one's been done before. There are valid reasons for posting 
> test messages to normal groups. Test groups don't always test what needs 
> testing.

Go on, I'll bite, why would a test message to a test group not be 
sufficient to test that you can read & post?

Desk Rabbit was thinking very hard :
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>> In news:o4mdnZKMbqi_aBvVnZ2dnUVZ8svinZ2d@posted.plusnet,
>> Andy Burns  typed, for some strange, 
>> unexplained reason:
>> : On 23/07/2008 08:54, Test wrote:
>> :
>> : > Test. Please ignore.
>> :
>> : Use a proper test group!
>> 
>> Sigh.. this one's been done before. There are valid reasons for posting 
>> test messages to normal groups. Test groups don't always test what needs 
>> testing.
>
> Go on, I'll bite, why would a test message to a test group not be sufficient 
> to test that you can read & post?

...and why can't a test message be disguised as a vaguely on-topic 
post..?

Jono wrote:
> Desk Rabbit was thinking very hard :
>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>> In news:o4mdnZKMbqi_aBvVnZ2dnUVZ8svinZ2d@posted.plusnet,
>>> Andy Burns  typed, for some strange, 
>>> unexplained reason:
>>> : On 23/07/2008 08:54, Test wrote:
>>> :
>>> : > Test. Please ignore.
>>> :
>>> : Use a proper test group!
>>>
>>> Sigh.. this one's been done before. There are valid reasons for 
>>> posting test messages to normal groups. Test groups don't always test 
>>> what needs testing.
>>
>> Go on, I'll bite, why would a test message to a test group not be 
>> sufficient to test that you can read & post?
> 
> ...and why can't a test message be disguised as a vaguely on-topic post..?
> 
> 
Or just send a vague spam type message, guaranteed to get a response 
from Ivor and thus confirm that the test worked :-)

In news:mn.c48f7d87caffcb0d.88534@blueyonder.invalid,
Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> typed, for some strange, unexplained 
reason:
: Desk Rabbit was thinking very hard :
: > Ivor Jones wrote:
: >> In news:o4mdnZKMbqi_aBvVnZ2dnUVZ8svinZ2d@posted.plusnet,
: >> Andy Burns  typed, for some
: >> strange, unexplained reason:
: >> : On 23/07/2008 08:54, Test wrote:
: >> :
: >> : > Test. Please ignore.
: >> :
: >> : Use a proper test group!
: >>
: >> Sigh.. this one's been done before. There are valid reasons for
: >> posting test messages to normal groups. Test groups don't always
: >> test what needs testing.
: >
: > Go on, I'll bite, why would a test message to a test group not be
: > sufficient to test that you can read & post?

Ok, no need to bite, I get enough of that from the cats ;-)

The reason is simple - a post to a test group merely shows that the sender 
is able to post to that test group, it doesn't necessarily follow that 
he/she will be able to post to any other group. True, it's unlikely that 
this will be the case, but it is possible.

I had a problem a couple of years ago where postings to some of the groups 
to which I subscribe were getting through ok, but those to others weren't. 
I never did manage to get to the root of the problem, but it disappeared 
when I changed routers. Work that one out if you can..!

: ...and why can't a test message be disguised as a vaguely on-topic
: post..?

There I'll agree. But test groups serve only to indicate you can post to 
test groups.

Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:
> In news:mn.c48f7d87caffcb0d.88534@blueyonder.invalid,
> Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> typed, for some strange, unexplained 
> reason:
> : Desk Rabbit was thinking very hard :
> : > Ivor Jones wrote:
> : >> In news:o4mdnZKMbqi_aBvVnZ2dnUVZ8svinZ2d@posted.plusnet,
> : >> Andy Burns  typed, for some
> : >> strange, unexplained reason:
> : >> : On 23/07/2008 08:54, Test wrote:
> : >> :
> : >> : > Test. Please ignore.
> : >> :
> : >> : Use a proper test group!
> : >>
> : >> Sigh.. this one's been done before. There are valid reasons for
> : >> posting test messages to normal groups. Test groups don't always
> : >> test what needs testing.
> : >
> : > Go on, I'll bite, why would a test message to a test group not be
> : > sufficient to test that you can read & post?
> 
> Ok, no need to bite, I get enough of that from the cats ;-)
> 
> The reason is simple - a post to a test group merely shows that the sender 
> is able to post to that test group, it doesn't necessarily follow that 
> he/she will be able to post to any other group. True, it's unlikely that 
> this will be the case, but it is possible.
> 
> I had a problem a couple of years ago where postings to some of the groups 
> to which I subscribe were getting through ok, but those to others weren't. 
> I never did manage to get to the root of the problem, but it disappeared 
> when I changed routers. Work that one out if you can..!
Coincidence or your dynamic public IP was blocked on the newsserver?

> 
> : ...and why can't a test message be disguised as a vaguely on-topic
> : post..?
> 
> There I'll agree. But test groups serve only to indicate you can post to 
> test groups.
The client mechanism is the same regardless of the group being posted 
to. Therefore if you can post to a test group, your client is working. 
If your posts do not appear in another group, it isn't your client.
QED