I used to have two BT lines - I cancelled one of them a couple of years 
ago and ported it to a VOIP company.

The remaining BT line runs my ADSL connection.

I now wish to move my VOIP number back to BT AND for it to replace my 
current landline number (that has ADSL).  I don't want any interruption 
to service - landline or internet.

Is this possible? What are the steps required?  I'm having a 
frustrating time with BT about this....

Thanks

Nutz

It happens that NutCracker formulated :
> I used to have two BT lines - I cancelled one of them a couple of years ago 
> and ported it to a VOIP company.
>
> The remaining BT line runs my ADSL connection.
>
> I now wish to move my VOIP number back to BT AND for it to replace my current 
> landline number (that has ADSL).  I don't want any interruption to service - 
> landline or internet.
>
> Is this possible? What are the steps required?  I'm having a frustrating time 
> with BT about this....
>
> Thanks
>
> Nutz

The ONLY people you can speak with/place orders with when porting a 
number are the gaining operator.

If you embark upon what you are wanting, please expect there to be a 
good chance that your broadband will go off and for it to be off for 
two weeks or more.

So, that said, the safest way to achieve what you're after is to port 
your number back to BT onto a brand new line. Then order broadband on 
it (either simultaneously with the line or after it's installed). Once 
bb is active, disconnect your old line & broadband......Oh, you're not 
guaranteed the same speed on this line as your old line, 
either.....though it could be faster too.

NutCracker wrote:
> I used to have two BT lines - I cancelled one of them a couple of years 
> ago and ported it to a VOIP company.
> 
> The remaining BT line runs my ADSL connection.
> 
> I now wish to move my VOIP number back to BT AND for it to replace my 
> current landline number (that has ADSL).  I don't want any interruption 
> to service - landline or internet.
> 
> Is this possible? What are the steps required?  I'm having a frustrating 
> time with BT about this....

Indeed, unfortunately, you just have to persuade BT to accept the order. 
It's the gaining operators responsibility to service their new customer.

cheers
peter

-- 
peter gradwell. gradwell dot com Ltd. http://www.gradwell.com/
<email/web_hosting/business_voip> <t:01225 800 810>

NutCracker wrote:
> I used to have two BT lines - I cancelled one of them a couple of years 
> ago and ported it to a VOIP company.
> 
> The remaining BT line runs my ADSL connection.
> 
> I now wish to move my VOIP number back to BT AND for it to replace my 
> current landline number (that has ADSL).  I don't want any interruption 
> to service - landline or internet.
> 
> Is this possible? What are the steps required?  I'm having a frustrating 
> time with BT about this....
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Nutz
> 
Out of curiosity why are you changing back from VOIP to BT.

On 2008-05-31 15:58:20 +0100, Nick  said:

> NutCracker wrote:
>> I used to have two BT lines - I cancelled one of them a couple of years 
>> ago and ported it to a VOIP company.
>> 
>> The remaining BT line runs my ADSL connection.
>> 
>> I now wish to move my VOIP number back to BT AND for it to replace my 
>> current landline number (that has ADSL).  I don't want any interruption 
>> to service - landline or internet.
>> 
>> Is this possible? What are the steps required?  I'm having a 
>> frustrating time with BT about this....
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Nutz
>> 
> Out of curiosity why are you changing back from VOIP to BT.


To be honest we don't use the phone that much and BT offers free 
evening and weekend calls (which is when the phone is more likely to be 
used).  The main reason though was the VOIP service that I've been 
having - dropped calls - too many for it to be very frustrating when 
making or receiving calls.

Having spent the last week or so dealing with my VOIP provider and BT 
things have improved - coincidence? :-)  I use the Sipura SPA3000.

On Sat, 31 May 2008 16:42:11 GMT, NutCracker  wrote:

>On 2008-05-31 15:58:20 +0100, Nick  said:
>
>> NutCracker wrote:
>>> I used to have two BT lines - I cancelled one of them a couple of years 
>>> ago and ported it to a VOIP company.
>>> 
>>> The remaining BT line runs my ADSL connection.
>>> 
>>> I now wish to move my VOIP number back to BT AND for it to replace my 
>>> current landline number (that has ADSL).  I don't want any interruption 
>>> to service - landline or internet.
>>> 
>>> Is this possible? What are the steps required?  I'm having a 
>>> frustrating time with BT about this....
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Nutz
>>> 
>> Out of curiosity why are you changing back from VOIP to BT.
>
>
>To be honest we don't use the phone that much and BT offers free 
>evening and weekend calls (which is when the phone is more likely to be 
>used).  The main reason though was the VOIP service that I've been 
>having - dropped calls - too many for it to be very frustrating when 
>making or receiving calls.
>
>Having spent the last week or so dealing with my VOIP provider and BT 
>things have improved - coincidence? :-)  I use the Sipura SPA3000.
>
So you problem might be solved. Dropped calls isn't an implicit
feature with voip. It can be due to your connection - I had lots of
problems when VM upgraded customers to higher speeds, or it could be
your voip provider. If you already have the BT deal why not try taking
incoming calls via voip and doing outgoing evening via BT. This is all
easy to do with an SPA-3000. Managing weekend calls is slightly more
difficult but can be achieved in various ways.
For CLI consitency, when routing via voip,  the Betamax companies have
provision for you to forward any standard number that you own, via
their network, as your CLI. I would imagine, perhaps with more
difficulty, that other providers could also provide this facility.



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On 2008-06-01 13:08:03 +0100, Brian A  said:

> On Sat, 31 May 2008 16:42:11 GMT, NutCracker  wrote:
> 
>> On 2008-05-31 15:58:20 +0100, Nick  said:
>> 
>>> NutCracker wrote:
>>>> I used to have two BT lines - I cancelled one of them a couple of years
>>>> ago and ported it to a VOIP company.
>>>> 
>>>> The remaining BT line runs my ADSL connection.
>>>> 
>>>> I now wish to move my VOIP number back to BT AND for it to replace my
>>>> current landline number (that has ADSL).  I don't want any interruption
>>>> to service - landline or internet.
>>>> 
>>>> Is this possible? What are the steps required?  I'm having a
>>>> frustrating time with BT about this....
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Nutz
>>>> 
>>> Out of curiosity why are you changing back from VOIP to BT.
>> 
>> 
>> To be honest we don't use the phone that much and BT offers free
>> evening and weekend calls (which is when the phone is more likely to be
>> used).  The main reason though was the VOIP service that I've been
>> having - dropped calls - too many for it to be very frustrating when
>> making or receiving calls.
>> 
>> Having spent the last week or so dealing with my VOIP provider and BT
>> things have improved - coincidence? :-)  I use the Sipura SPA3000.
>> 
> So you problem might be solved. Dropped calls isn't an implicit
> feature with voip. It can be due to your connection - I had lots of
> problems when VM upgraded customers to higher speeds, or it could be
> your voip provider. If you already have the BT deal why not try taking
> incoming calls via voip and doing outgoing evening via BT. This is all
> easy to do with an SPA-3000. Managing weekend calls is slightly more
> difficult but can be achieved in various ways.
> For CLI consitency, when routing via voip,  the Betamax companies have
> provision for you to forward any standard number that you own, via
> their network, as your CLI. I would imagine, perhaps with more
> difficulty, that other providers could also provide this facility.
> 
> 
> 
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I have a simiar call plan now (including CLI) with my current VOIP 
provider just unfortunate for it not to be reliable enough for 
making/receiving calls - and of course there's the WAF to take into 
consideration! ;-)  The net connection itself is pretty reliable - so 
don't believe that's the problem and the SPA3000 and the phones 
themself appear all to be working fine.

BT though are certainly adamant that the VOIP company has to release 
the number to them which conflicts with other information that I've 
read and been told, i.e. the gaining operator is the one that deals 
with the porting of the number.  Well I guess if things don't improve 
then I may have to resort to getting the other line activated...

On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:10:28 GMT, NutCracker  wrote:

>On 2008-06-01 13:08:03 +0100, Brian A  said:
>
>> On Sat, 31 May 2008 16:42:11 GMT, NutCracker  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2008-05-31 15:58:20 +0100, Nick  said:
>>> 
>>>> NutCracker wrote:
>>>>> I used to have two BT lines - I cancelled one of them a couple of years
>>>>> ago and ported it to a VOIP company.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The remaining BT line runs my ADSL connection.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I now wish to move my VOIP number back to BT AND for it to replace my
>>>>> current landline number (that has ADSL).  I don't want any interruption
>>>>> to service - landline or internet.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this possible? What are the steps required?  I'm having a
>>>>> frustrating time with BT about this....
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nutz
>>>>> 
>>>> Out of curiosity why are you changing back from VOIP to BT.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To be honest we don't use the phone that much and BT offers free
>>> evening and weekend calls (which is when the phone is more likely to be
>>> used).  The main reason though was the VOIP service that I've been
>>> having - dropped calls - too many for it to be very frustrating when
>>> making or receiving calls.
>>> 
>>> Having spent the last week or so dealing with my VOIP provider and BT
>>> things have improved - coincidence? :-)  I use the Sipura SPA3000.
>>> 
>> So you problem might be solved. Dropped calls isn't an implicit
>> feature with voip. It can be due to your connection - I had lots of
>> problems when VM upgraded customers to higher speeds, or it could be
>> your voip provider. If you already have the BT deal why not try taking
>> incoming calls via voip and doing outgoing evening via BT. This is all
>> easy to do with an SPA-3000. Managing weekend calls is slightly more
>> difficult but can be achieved in various ways.
>> For CLI consitency, when routing via voip,  the Betamax companies have
>> provision for you to forward any standard number that you own, via
>> their network, as your CLI. I would imagine, perhaps with more
>> difficulty, that other providers could also provide this facility.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>I have a simiar call plan now (including CLI) with my current VOIP 
>provider just unfortunate for it not to be reliable enough for 
>making/receiving calls - and of course there's the WAF to take into 
>consideration! ;-)  
It is so easy to try another provider. I did try one provider that was
very good value for money but calls dropped. With JustVoip calls have
all been perfect. Not only my experience but that of two other people
I know with Linksys boxes. None of us use JustVoip for incoming calls
though so I can't vouch for the reliability in that respect but we all
use voxalot to route outgoing calls via JustVoip.
If you are confident that your line is OK then for the sake of £10 it
could save you a lot of trouble.
b.t.w. Am I to assume WAF=wife? If so my one of my female relations,
in her 80s, uses voip for outgoing calls and says that it is
absolutely fine.
I think that you have just been unlucky.


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