On Tue, 20 May 2008 23:43:31 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:


>But with the Pirelli I can't seem to add words to the user defined list, 
>if indeed it has one. It decides that my mate's name Colin is in fact 
>"Bolivia" and won't let me select any alternatives or add the name Colin 
>manually.

So Ivor has you have said in another posting "Or infrared, but for the
price, very good." may be but had you paid the asking price elsewhere
for these phones I wonder if you would be saying the same ? .
Personally the more I read what others have to say about them
including yourself the more I am thinking they are a load of crap
considering the asking price elsewhere.

On Wed, 21 May 2008 05:26:36 -0700 (PDT), andy
 wrote:


>maybe they don't have the latest features, but I didn't notice anyone
>saying those 2 are junk
I have the Siemans S450i but I am not using the phone with it, I use
my BT Elements phone on the base the Siemens phone that came with the
base is in the junk cupboard along with my three Starcoms .
Andy some people are easily satisfied I am far from being easily
satisfied and if I am not happy with something I have bought it either
goes back were it came from or if this is not possable in the cupboard
it goes .