Looks very similar to the Pirelli DualPhone DP-L10?

"Nick"  wrote in message
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> Looks very similar to the Pirelli DualPhone DP-L10?
>
>
And wanted to say Tesco are selling titled product @ £79.98
http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-5300.aspx

In news:D4IXj.19929$sv3.5347@newsfe13.ams2,
Nick  typed, for some strange, unexplained reason:
: "Nick"  wrote in message
: news:x2IXj.19928$sv3.7503@newsfe13.ams2...
: > Looks very similar to the Pirelli DualPhone DP-L10?
: >
: >
: And wanted to say Tesco are selling titled product @ £79.98
: http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-5300.aspx

Yep looks the same to me.

Finally got mine from Sipgate, works ok but seems to have a very limited 
range, very poor signal in areas of the house where the laptop works fine.

Incidentally, anyone know if it's possible to use it in a public 
hotspot..? Tried a few times locally and while I can get a signal the SIP 
account won't register.

Still, a useful device for the money and interesting to play with. ISTR 
someone mentioning firmware that adds DECT capability, any info on that as 
I would find that useful.


Ivor

"Ivor Jones" <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote in message 
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> In news:D4IXj.19929$sv3.5347@newsfe13.ams2,
> Nick  typed, for some strange, unexplained reason:
> : "Nick"  wrote in message
> : news:x2IXj.19928$sv3.7503@newsfe13.ams2...
> : > Looks very similar to the Pirelli DualPhone DP-L10?
> : >
> : >
> : And wanted to say Tesco are selling titled product @ £79.98
> : http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-5300.aspx
>
> Yep looks the same to me.
>
> Finally got mine from Sipgate, works ok but seems to have a very limited
> range, very poor signal in areas of the house where the laptop works fine.
>
> Incidentally, anyone know if it's possible to use it in a public
> hotspot..? Tried a few times locally and while I can get a signal the SIP
> account won't register.
>
> Still, a useful device for the money and interesting to play with. ISTR
> someone mentioning firmware that adds DECT capability, any info on that as
> I would find that useful.
>
>
> Ivor


Ahem!  Please sir, please sir, here sir!

See my contribution dated 10/5 in the DP-L10 thread.  Please try to keep up 
at the back there!

Mr Voiptalker is the gent you need to speak to about firmware, Ivor.

Saga of the Pirelli continues.  Let me know if you've all had enough yet, 
and I'll apologise for it just before any subsequent instalment.  :-))

On 18 May, 08:27, "cybuerke"  wrote:
> "Ivor Jones" <i...@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote in message
>
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>
>
>
> > Innews:D4IXj.19929$sv3.5347@newsfe13.ams2,
> > Nick  typed, for some strange, unexplained reason> > : "Nick"  wrote in message
> > :news:x2IXj.19928$sv3.7503@newsfe13.ams2...
> > : > Looks very similar to the Pirelli DualPhone DP-L10?
> > : >
> > : >
> > : And wanted to say Tesco are selling titled product @ £79.98
> > :http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-5300.aspx
>
> > Yep looks the same to me.

Yes, it's another rebadged version. see the bottom of this page for
other "versions":
http://wiki.ip-phone-forum.de/telefone:t-one_tc300:start)

> > Finally got mine from Sipgate, works ok but seems to have a very limited> > range, very poor signal in areas of the house where the laptop works fine.

Yes, I mentioned poor range in an earlier thread as one of the
limitations, in my view.

> > Incidentally, anyone know if it's possible to use it in a public
> > hotspot..? Tried a few times locally and while I can get a signal the SIP
> > account won't register.

Yes, it CAN work in hotspots - as long as they aren't blocking certain
ports. I tried to use mine on the coaches that offer wifi connections
and got the same results as you - the wifi registers, but not the SIP.
Of course, if nothing is being blocked, then it works :)

> > Still, a useful device for the money and interesting to play with. ISTR
> > someone mentioning firmware that adds DECT capability, any info on that as
> > I would find that useful.

Yes, I'll try to get a webpage together with full instructions on how
to add in landline capability to covert it from "dual" to "tri".
Basically the device you need to add is a Sinus TC300 base station.
see:
http://wiki.ip-phone-forum.de/gateways:tcom:sinustc300:start?s=sinus%20300BEWARE: There are 2 versions of this - an  analogue version and an
ISDN version.

In news:8bb282cb-74ae-4105-8fdc-e17ba75a2b6e@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com,
voiptalker@gmail.com  typed, for some strange, 
unexplained reason:

[snip]

: Yes, it CAN work in hotspots - as long as they aren't blocking certain
: ports. I tried to use mine on the coaches that offer wifi connections
: and got the same results as you - the wifi registers, but not the SIP.
: Of course, if nothing is being blocked, then it works :)

Doesn't want to know in the local Starbucks (T-Mobile) or another one 
nearby "The Cloud". It'll be interesting to see if it works in Phoenix 
Airport in Arizona next time I'm there, they are the only airport I know 
with blanket free wi-fi coverage. Wish a few more would do that instead of 
ripping us off with silly prices, paid about £7 for just over an hour at 
Heathrow last year grumble moan.

: > > Still, a useful device for the money and interesting to play
: > > with. ISTR someone mentioning firmware that adds DECT capability,
: > > any info on that as I would find that useful.
:
: Yes, I'll try to get a webpage together with full instructions on how
: to add in landline capability to covert it from "dual" to "tri".
: Basically the device you need to add is a Sinus TC300 base station.
: see:
: 
http://wiki.ip-phone-forum.de/gateways:tcom:sinustc300:start?s=sinus%20300
: BEWARE: There are 2 versions of this - an  analogue version and an
: ISDN version.

Ok thanks. I was hoping to be able to use it with my existing DECT base, 
are you saying it will only work with the Sinus one..?

Ivor

On 18 May, 17:32, "Ivor Jones" <i...@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:

> : > > Still, a useful device for the money and interesting to play
> : > > with. ISTR someone mentioning firmware that adds DECT capability,
> : > > any info on that as I would find that useful.
> :
> : Yes, I'll try to get a webpage together with full instructions on how
> : to add in landline capability to covert it from "dual" to "tri".
> : Basically the device you need to add is a Sinus TC300 base station.
> : see:
> :http://wiki.ip-phone-forum.de/gateways:tcom:sinustc300:start?s=sinus%..> : BEWARE: There are 2 versions of this - an  analogue version and an
> : ISDN version.
>
> Ok thanks. I was hoping to be able to use it with my existing DECT base,
> are you saying it will only work with the Sinus one..?

That's right AFAIK. The Sinus is a wifi base with WPA encryption.
Thus the phone needs a wifi profile to be configured to access the
Sinus. The TC300s (dual phones, not the bases) sold here in Spain come
with one profile already configured, though you have to further
configure them by putting in the base's WPA code. In fact, up to 5
Dual Phones can be configured to the Sinus.

Give me a few days to organise a page on the subject, I'm a bit tied
up workwise at the mo'.

On Sun, 18 May 2008 16:32:41 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:

>In news:8bb282cb-74ae-4105-8fdc-e17ba75a2b6e@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com,
>voiptalker@gmail.com  typed, for some strange, 
>unexplained reason:
>
>[snip]
>
>: Yes, it CAN work in hotspots - as long as they aren't blocking certain
>: ports. I tried to use mine on the coaches that offer wifi connections
>: and got the same results as you - the wifi registers, but not the SIP.
>: Of course, if nothing is being blocked, then it works :)
>
>Doesn't want to know in the local Starbucks (T-Mobile) or another one 
>nearby "The Cloud". It'll be interesting to see if it works in Phoenix 
>Airport in Arizona next time I'm there, they are the only airport I know 
>with blanket free wi-fi coverage. Wish a few more would do that instead of 
>ripping us off with silly prices, paid about £7 for just over an hour at 
>Heathrow last year grumble moan.
Have you got a Kentucky fried rat anywhere near you Ivor they are
doing free wifi now .

In news:84o0349e91mso1bn3fuoi2ldtd9n21ubt0@4ax.com,
mymail@hotmail.com  typed, for some strange, 
unexplained reason:
: On Sun, 18 May 2008 16:32:41 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
: <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
:
: >In
: >news:8bb282cb-74ae-4105-8fdc-e17ba75a2b6e@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com,
: >voiptalker@gmail.com  typed, for some strange,
: >unexplained reason:
: >
: >[snip]
: >
: >: Yes, it CAN work in hotspots - as long as they aren't blocking
: >: certain ports. I tried to use mine on the coaches that offer wifi
: >: connections and got the same results as you - the wifi registers,
: >: but not the SIP. Of course, if nothing is being blocked, then it
: >: works :)
: >
: >Doesn't want to know in the local Starbucks (T-Mobile) or another one
: >nearby "The Cloud". It'll be interesting to see if it works in
: >Phoenix Airport in Arizona next time I'm there, they are the only
: >airport I know with blanket free wi-fi coverage. Wish a few more
: >would do that instead of ripping us off with silly prices, paid
: >about £7 for just over an hour at Heathrow last year grumble moan.
: Have you got a Kentucky fried rat anywhere near you Ivor they are
: doing free wifi now .

Not round here, no. There's a McDonalds though ISTR they have it also.

Ivor

On Sun, 18 May 2008 18:17:24 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:


>Not round here, no. There's a McDonalds though ISTR they have it also.

I have a little unimportant problem Ivor do you happen to know if any
of the hot spots need to provide you with a password or anything I
only ask because when the local fried rat started the service I went
along there with my lap top and no matter what I could not connect to
anywhere .
Just wondering if it is me or them .

On May 18, 7:47 pm, mym...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, 18 May 2008 18:17:24 퍝, "Ivor Jones"
>
> <i...@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
> >Not round here, no. There's a McDonalds though ISTR they have it also.
>
> I have a little unimportant problem Ivor do you happen to know if any
> of the hot spots need to provide you with a password or anything I
> only ask because when the local fried rat started the service I went
> along there with my lap top and no matter what I could not connect to
> anywhere .
> Just wondering if it is me or them .

Don't know about KFC, but on National Coaches that offer free wifi,
there is no encyption - it's totally open. though as mentioned
previously some traffic (SIP at least) seems to be blocked.

In news:flq0341psbvdnn6m1t1ruaq3l3os7ebr6i@4ax.com,
mymail@hotmail.com  typed, for some strange, 
unexplained reason:
: On Sun, 18 May 2008 18:17:24 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
: <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
:
:
: >Not round here, no. There's a McDonalds though ISTR they have it
: >also.
:
: I have a little unimportant problem Ivor do you happen to know if any
: of the hot spots need to provide you with a password or anything I
: only ask because when the local fried rat started the service I went
: along there with my lap top and no matter what I could not connect to
: anywhere .
: Just wondering if it is me or them .

Depends on the location. Most places (Starbucks etc) have pay wi-fi where 
you have to log on and give your credit/debit card details before it will 
let you do anything. I'm assuming that's why it won't let me use the 
phone.

On the other hand some places (like Phoenix airport) are completely free, 
but you still have to agree to the terms and conditions on a login page 
first.

Did you get an IP address from the system..?

Ivor

On Sun, 18 May 2008 23:33:56 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:


>Did you get an IP address from the system..?

Can't think Ivor it was the back end of 07 when I gave it a go
I tried ringing them to night directory enquiries cound not come up
with the local's number and the one in Preston where not answering the
phone had it ringing out for ages.
I intend to go down to the local one sometime this week and ask a few
questions this has been on my mind for sometime and I know it will not
leave me alone until I get the answer.

A pub in Maidstone has free Cloud WiFi.
My Senao happily obtained IP address, but no SIP registration.
Zyxel P2000W V2, could not get IP address from the DHCP !  God knows why - 
enybody else have clue ?
Enquiry to the staff produced a card with user ID and password which has to 
be input trough a browser :-(
Regards,
Martin

In article <47udndLoCNqMeq3VnZ2dnUVZ8u6dnZ2d@plusnet>,
Martin²  wrote:
>A pub in Maidstone has free Cloud WiFi.
>My Senao happily obtained IP address, but no SIP registration.
>Zyxel P2000W V2, could not get IP address from the DHCP !  God knows why - 
>enybody else have clue ?
>Enquiry to the staff produced a card with user ID and password which has to 
>be input trough a browser :-(

Another thing to watch out for is "broken" routers, so sometimes it's
not deliberate that you can get "web" access, but not SIP access.

Some routers try to be "clever" and "know" about SIP, so negating the
need for a stun server, etc. unfortunately a log of them just don't work.
Zyxels in particular - with them you need to telnet into the router and
type a command to disable the SIP ALG (Application Layer Gateway). Same
for a few others - Juniper netscreens spring to mind.

Another reason to use IAX, if possible, but despite it being freely
avalable, source code an all, take-up is very slow )-:

Gordon

Martin² wrote:

> Enquiry to the staff produced a card with user ID and password which has to 
> be input trough a browser :-(

That's OK, there's a browser in the phone

Gordon Henderson wrote:
> In article <47udndLoCNqMeq3VnZ2dnUVZ8u6dnZ2d@plusnet>,
> Martin²  wrote:
>> A pub in Maidstone has free Cloud WiFi.
>> My Senao happily obtained IP address, but no SIP registration.
>> Zyxel P2000W V2, could not get IP address from the DHCP !  God knows why - 
>> enybody else have clue ?
>> Enquiry to the staff produced a card with user ID and password which has to 
>> be input trough a browser :-(
> 
> Another thing to watch out for is "broken" routers, so sometimes it's
> not deliberate that you can get "web" access, but not SIP access.
> 
> Some routers try to be "clever" and "know" about SIP, so negating the
> need for a stun server, etc. unfortunately a log of them just don't work.
> Zyxels in particular - with them you need to telnet into the router and
> type a command to disable the SIP ALG (Application Layer Gateway). Same
> for a few others - Juniper netscreens spring to mind.
> 
> Another reason to use IAX, if possible, but despite it being freely
> avalable, source code an all, take-up is very slow )-:
> 
> Gordon

...and Draytek 2600s..TELNET in and issue SYS SIP_ALG 0

On Sat, 17 May 2008 22:26:53 +0100, "Nick" 
wrote:

>
>"Nick"  wrote in message
>news:x2IXj.19928$sv3.7503@newsfe13.ams2...
>> Looks very similar to the Pirelli DualPhone DP-L10?
>>
>>
>And wanted to say Tesco are selling titled product @ £79.98
>http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-5300.aspx
>
Just bought one of these today can collect from a local Tesco
on Wednesday and can return for a full refund if not entirely happy
within 28 days no questions asked .

On Sat, 17 May 2008 22:26:53 +0100, "Nick" 
wrote:

>
>"Nick"  wrote in message
>news:x2IXj.19928$sv3.7503@newsfe13.ams2...
>> Looks very similar to the Pirelli DualPhone DP-L10?
>>
>>
>And wanted to say Tesco are selling titled product @ £79.98
>http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-5300.aspx
>
Just bought one of these today can collect from a local Tesco
on Wednesday and can return for a full refund if not entirely happy
within 28 days no questions asked .

On Sat, 17 May 2008 22:26:53 +0100, "Nick" 
wrote:

>
>"Nick"  wrote in message
>news:x2IXj.19928$sv3.7503@newsfe13.ams2...
>> Looks very similar to the Pirelli DualPhone DP-L10?
>>
>>
>And wanted to say Tesco are selling titled product @ £79.98
>http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-5300.aspx
>
Just bought one of these today can collect from a local Tesco
on Wednesday and can return for a full refund if not entirely happy
within 28 days no questions asked .

In news:1eol341u164lppqffuo102rh7vgnjrj0c6@4ax.com,
mymail@hotmail.co.uk  typed, for some strange, 
unexplained reason:

[snip]

: Just bought one of these today can collect from a local Tesco
: on Wednesday and can return for a full refund if not entirely happy
: within 28 days no questions asked .

That's three times you've said that, Ron.

Ivor

Ivor:
>That's three times you've said that, Ron.

That's because he's bought three, must have been an BOG2F offer...:-)
M

On Mon, 26 May 2008 23:37:27 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:

>In news:1eol341u164lppqffuo102rh7vgnjrj0c6@4ax.com,
>mymail@hotmail.co.uk  typed, for some strange, 
>unexplained reason:
>
>[snip]
>
>: Just bought one of these today can collect from a local Tesco
>: on Wednesday and can return for a full refund if not entirely happy
>: within 28 days no questions asked .
>
>That's three times you've said that, Ron.
Read carefully  I will type this only once:)) 
Fault with the agent software all removed and reinstalled now Ivor.