As you won't have any bandwidth to play with ?

i know it wont need much but if your newsgrouping it tends to grab the lot

not a voip guru so any pointers welcome

"xmas"  wrote in message
news:jWhaj.18$Gt.9@fe117.usenetserver.com 
: : As you won't have any bandwidth to play with ?
: : 
: : i know it wont need much but if your newsgrouping it
: : tends to grab the lot 
: : 
: : not a voip guru so any pointers welcome

Maybe it's me, but I haven't got a clue what your point is.


Ivor

Ivor Jones used his keyboard to write :
> "xmas"  wrote in message
> news:jWhaj.18$Gt.9@fe117.usenetserver.com
> : : As you won't have any bandwidth to play with ?
>> > 
> : : i know it wont need much but if your newsgrouping it
>> > tends to grab the lot 
>> > 
> : : not a voip guru so any pointers welcome
>
> Maybe it's me, but I haven't got a clue what your point is.

It's you. You haven't read the subject line fully ;-)

"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
news:mn.a00d7d7c9e2c3086.48968@blueyonder.invalid 
: : Ivor Jones used his keyboard to write :
: : : "xmas"  wrote in message
: : : news:jWhaj.18$Gt.9@fe117.usenetserver.com
: : : : : As you won't have any bandwidth to play with ?
: : : : : 
: : : : : i know it wont need much but if your newsgrouping
: : : : : it tends to grab the lot
: : : : : 
: : : : : not a voip guru so any pointers welcome
: : : 
: : : Maybe it's me, but I haven't got a clue what your
: : : point is. 
: : 
: : It's you. You haven't read the subject line fully ;-)

Nope, sorry, still don't get it..

Ivor

You need a router with built in VoIP and QoS (quality of service).
Then you just set the QoS to prioritize VoIP packets.
E.g. Draytek Vigor routers 2700V or 2800V, Zyxel 2602HW/L, or FritzBox! and 
others.
Regards,
Martin

Martin² wrote:
> You need a router with built in VoIP and QoS (quality of service).
> Then you just set the QoS to prioritize VoIP packets.
> E.g. Draytek Vigor routers 2700V or 2800V, Zyxel 2602HW/L, or FritzBox! and 
> others.

But beware about whether those boxes can do anything about downloadiing.

Tim

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:17:12 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:

>"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
>news:mn.a00d7d7c9e2c3086.48968@blueyonder.invalid 
>: : Ivor Jones used his keyboard to write :
>: : : "xmas"  wrote in message
>: : : news:jWhaj.18$Gt.9@fe117.usenetserver.com
>: : : : : As you won't have any bandwidth to play with ?
>: : : : : 
>: : : : : i know it wont need much but if your newsgrouping
>: : : : : it tends to grab the lot
>: : : : : 
>: : : : : not a voip guru so any pointers welcome
>: : : 
>: : : Maybe it's me, but I haven't got a clue what your
>: : : point is. 
>: : 
>: : It's you. You haven't read the subject line fully ;-)
>
>Nope, sorry, still don't get it..
>
>Ivor

QED

Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
> It's you. You haven't read the subject line fully ;-)

The one that says "Re: Voip - for home use - no good if..."?

The Subject is supposed to be a summary for the message, so that we can
decide whether (or not) to read it, not part of the message itself.

Cheers,
Chris

Chris Davies submitted this idea :
> Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
>> It's you. You haven't read the subject line fully ;-)
>
> The one that says "Re: Voip - for home use - no good if your a 24 / 7 
> downloader ?"

Yes.

>
> The Subject is supposed to be a summary for the message, so that we can
> decide whether (or not) to read it, not part of the message itself.
>

Nevertheless, if the subject line is read, it does make sense.

You need to get yourself a router with a technology called QOS - this
basically prioritises voice traffic above anything else (big files
download etc...), thus saving you from poor quality voice. 

Cheers, 

Matt


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Tim wrote:
> Martin² wrote:
>> You need a router with built in VoIP and QoS (quality of service).
>> Then you just set the QoS to prioritize VoIP packets.
>> E.g. Draytek Vigor routers 2700V or 2800V, Zyxel 2602HW/L, or 
>> FritzBox! and others.
> 
> But beware about whether those boxes can do anything about downloadiing.

Now I understood what the OP was saying, but WTF are you trying to say?

Desk Rabbit wrote:
> Now I understood what the OP was saying, but WTF are you trying to say?

Some Qos devices only work in the uploading direction.

Others can slow down TCP acknowledgements and other tricks to help on
the download side of things.

Tim

In message , Desk Rabbit 
 writes
>Tim wrote:
>> Martin² wrote:
>>> You need a router with built in VoIP and QoS (quality of service).
>>> Then you just set the QoS to prioritize VoIP packets.
>>> E.g. Draytek Vigor routers 2700V or 2800V, Zyxel 2602HW/L, or 
>>>FritzBox! and others.
>>  But beware about whether those boxes can do anything about 
>>downloadiing.
>
>Now I understood what the OP was saying, but WTF are you trying to say?

I think what he was trying to say is that the QoS on certain routers is 
usually applied to the upstream packets, so in effect is pretty useless 
at giving priority to downstream VOIP packets. But I could be wrong.

-- 
Spock

i meant the bandwidth issue - blimey - thought that was obvious !

thanks for the sensible replies :)

ivor - i was concerned if i'm downloading the world at 100% bandwidth how 
would voip be able to get a look in

didnt realise the ability of voip routers to guarantee enough to make it 
workable

you live and you learn !





"Spock <(.¿.)>"  wrote in message 
news:sxtb+NZW0DbHFwJp@crvnet.adsl24.co.uk...
In message , Desk Rabbit
 writes
>Tim wrote:
>> Martin² wrote:
>>> You need a router with built in VoIP and QoS (quality of service).
>>> Then you just set the QoS to prioritize VoIP packets.
>>> E.g. Draytek Vigor routers 2700V or 2800V, Zyxel 2602HW/L, or
>>>FritzBox! and others.
>>  But beware about whether those boxes can do anything about
>>downloadiing.
>
>Now I understood what the OP was saying, but WTF are you trying to say?

I think what he was trying to say is that the QoS on certain routers is
usually applied to the upstream packets, so in effect is pretty useless
at giving priority to downstream VOIP packets. But I could be wrong.

-- 
Spock