anyone using the openvoxanalogue pci cards.

any comments ? 
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news1001

news1001 schreef:
> anyone using the openvoxanalogue pci cards.
> 
> any comments ? 

What is a Openvoxanalog pci card ?

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The Fug.

"TheFug"  wrote in message 
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> news1001 schreef:
>> anyone using the openvoxanalogue pci cards.
>>
>> any comments ?
>
> What is a Openvoxanalog pci card ?
>
> -- 
> The Fug.

Plug in line connectors for Asterisk boxes.  A la Digium cards.

cybuerke schreef:
> "TheFug"  wrote in message 
> news:476505d4$0$7187$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl...
>> news1001 schreef:
>>> anyone using the openvoxanalogue pci cards.
>>>
>>> any comments ?
>> What is a Openvoxanalog pci card ?
>>
>> -- 
>> The Fug.
> 
> Plug in line connectors for Asterisk boxes.  A la Digium cards. 
> 
> 
Okay, i also googled this one, should i've done in the 1st place, i 
guess, noticed, you can have special Asterisk installation version for 
these cards, so you don't have to re-invent the wheel ;)
dont see a huge price advantage of these\cards.... so why should i 
prefer this brand above the Digium ones, just because it says Open ?
Asterisks software is free to use also..and Digium support is a great 
one,. and more populair i guess, or tell me what i am missing...?

-- 
The Fug.

In article <476515fa$0$19307$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl>,
TheFug   wrote:
>cybuerke schreef:
>> "TheFug"  wrote in message 
>> news:476505d4$0$7187$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl...
>>> news1001 schreef:
>>>> anyone using the openvoxanalogue pci cards.
>>>>
>>>> any comments ?
>>> What is a Openvoxanalog pci card ?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> The Fug.
>> 
>> Plug in line connectors for Asterisk boxes.  A la Digium cards. 
>> 
>> 
>Okay, i also googled this one, should i've done in the 1st place, i 
>guess, noticed, you can have special Asterisk installation version for 
>these cards, so you don't have to re-invent the wheel ;)
>dont see a huge price advantage of these\cards.... so why should i 
>prefer this brand above the Digium ones, just because it says Open ?
>Asterisks software is free to use also..and Digium support is a great 
>one,. and more populair i guess, or tell me what i am missing...?

I've just had a quick look myself - not that I like any sort of analogue
cards if I can help it, however ... They are cheaper than Digium cards,
but oddly enough look remarkably similar and it wouldn't surprise me if
they were a chinese clone, taking the same modules as digium TDM400P
cards do ...

As for digium support - yes, it's there, and these guys support the
development of asterisk, so it might be a nice way to indirectly support
them by buying digium...

However I've had no-end of problems getting digium analogue cards to
cancel echo on some analogue lines and support, while helpful (they read
this forum by the way), didn't help me to keep a customer. They also
have weird ideas about licensing their HPEC software which I couldn't use
due to various restrictions at the site I was at (no Internet connection
for a start) I was also told that I'd need to preiodically re-tune my
TDM400P cards - maybe weekly because that's the way it is. Riiight.

What I would say is that unless you've got perfect BT lines, you'll need
some sort of echo cancellation and if you can afford it, go for a
hardware solution like Sangoma, if it's in your budget.

Gordon

Gordon Henderson schreef:
> In article <476515fa$0$19307$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl>,
> TheFug   wrote:
>> cybuerke schreef:
>>> "TheFug"  wrote in message 
>>> news:476505d4$0$7187$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl...
>>>> news1001 schreef:
>>>>> anyone using the openvoxanalogue pci cards.
>>>>>
>>>>> any comments ?
>>>> What is a Openvoxanalog pci card ?
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> The Fug.
>>> Plug in line connectors for Asterisk boxes.  A la Digium cards. 
>>>
>>>
>> Okay, i also googled this one, should i've done in the 1st place, i 
>> guess, noticed, you can have special Asterisk installation version for 
>> these cards, so you don't have to re-invent the wheel ;)
>> dont see a huge price advantage of these\cards.... so why should i 
>> prefer this brand above the Digium ones, just because it says Open ?
>> Asterisks software is free to use also..and Digium support is a great 
>> one,. and more populair i guess, or tell me what i am missing...?
> 
> I've just had a quick look myself - not that I like any sort of analogue
> cards if I can help it, however ... They are cheaper than Digium cards,
> but oddly enough look remarkably similar and it wouldn't surprise me if
> they were a chinese clone, taking the same modules as digium TDM400P
> cards do ...
> 
> As for digium support - yes, it's there, and these guys support the
> development of asterisk, so it might be a nice way to indirectly support
> them by buying digium...
>
I meant the Asterisk online guides, that are available on different 
sites, and the different instant disc distro's

> However I've had no-end of problems getting digium analogue cards to
> cancel echo on some analogue lines and support, while helpful (they read
> this forum by the way), didn't help me to keep a customer. They also
> have weird ideas about licensing their HPEC software which I couldn't use
> due to various restrictions at the site I was at (no Internet connection
> for a start) I was also told that I'd need to preiodically re-tune my
> TDM400P cards - maybe weekly because that's the way it is. Riiight.
> 
> What I would say is that unless you've got perfect BT lines, you'll need
> some sort of echo cancellation and if you can afford it, go for a
> hardware solution like Sangoma, if it's in your budget.
> 
> Gordon

Are you saying, all these problems don't exsist on the OpenVox cards ?
I was thinking buying the Digium card, with with one red and one green 
module, to setup a Asterisk server, use normal phones, and my existing 
landline, so..with the Digium, i need a hardware echo canceling solution 
? i live in the Netherlands, using KPN for landline (cheapest landline 
sub.because i need the wire..)

-- 
The Fug.

In article <4766b6d3$0$19307$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl>,
TheFug   wrote:
>Gordon Henderson schreef:
>> In article <476515fa$0$19307$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl>,
>> TheFug   wrote:
>>> cybuerke schreef:
>>>> "TheFug"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:476505d4$0$7187$ba620dc5@text.nova.planet.nl...
>>>>> news1001 schreef:
>>>>>> anyone using the openvoxanalogue pci cards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> any comments ?
>>>>> What is a Openvoxanalog pci card ?
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> The Fug.
>>>> Plug in line connectors for Asterisk boxes.  A la Digium cards. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Okay, i also googled this one, should i've done in the 1st place, i 
>>> guess, noticed, you can have special Asterisk installation version for 
>>> these cards, so you don't have to re-invent the wheel ;)
>>> dont see a huge price advantage of these\cards.... so why should i 
>>> prefer this brand above the Digium ones, just because it says Open ?
>>> Asterisks software is free to use also..and Digium support is a great 
>>> one,. and more populair i guess, or tell me what i am missing...?
>> 
>> I've just had a quick look myself - not that I like any sort of analogue
>> cards if I can help it, however ... They are cheaper than Digium cards,
>> but oddly enough look remarkably similar and it wouldn't surprise me if
>> they were a chinese clone, taking the same modules as digium TDM400P
>> cards do ...
>> 
>> As for digium support - yes, it's there, and these guys support the
>> development of asterisk, so it might be a nice way to indirectly support
>> them by buying digium...
>>
>I meant the Asterisk online guides, that are available on different 
>sites, and the different instant disc distro's
>
>> However I've had no-end of problems getting digium analogue cards to
>> cancel echo on some analogue lines and support, while helpful (they read
>> this forum by the way), didn't help me to keep a customer. They also
>> have weird ideas about licensing their HPEC software which I couldn't use
>> due to various restrictions at the site I was at (no Internet connection
>> for a start) I was also told that I'd need to preiodically re-tune my
>> TDM400P cards - maybe weekly because that's the way it is. Riiight.
>> 
>> What I would say is that unless you've got perfect BT lines, you'll need
>> some sort of echo cancellation and if you can afford it, go for a
>> hardware solution like Sangoma, if it's in your budget.
>> 
>> Gordon
>
>Are you saying, all these problems don't exsist on the OpenVox cards ?

No.

Echo problems will exist on ALL analogue cards. (And some ISDN cards
too) How bad the echo is, depends on how "bad" the BT (or telewest,
etc.) line is. I was convinced one problem I had was caused by some BT
numpty using one wire from adjacent pairs from a street cab. to the
premises, but couldn't do anything about it. Plug in a £1.99 analogue
phone and it worked brilliantly. Plug in a TDM400P card and I got echo
echo echo. I tried 2 cards and a selection of modules. I tried all the
echo cancellation tuning I could get my hands on, even bought their High
Preformance echo canceller, and it still wouldn't get rid of it.

>I was thinking buying the Digium card, with with one red and one green 
>module, to setup a Asterisk server, use normal phones, and my existing 
>landline, so..with the Digium, i need a hardware echo canceling solution 
>? i live in the Netherlands, using KPN for landline (cheapest landline 
>sub.because i need the wire..)

If you only want to do a quick test, you might want to try an X100P card
if you can get it.. They sell on eBay for about a tenner.... That won't
let you hook up your existing analogue phones, but maybe a cheap ATA
would be the answer to that...

Eg.:

http://cgi.ebay.nl/ATCOM-AX-100P-For-TRIXBOX-Fully-compatible-with-x100p_W0QQitemZ130183547495QQihZ003QQcategoryZ61841QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Or eBay item No. 130183547495 if that URL doesn't work for you.

Gordon