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date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:32:41 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.telecom.mobile        back       
Cold calling   
My T mobile contract expires in another month or so and I have now had
2 cold calling calls offering me new contracts.
How do these get the data?? and does the Data Protection Act have
something to do with all this?? - ie protect my data??
date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:32:41 -0700 (PDT)   author:   CS

Re: Cold calling   
> My T mobile contract expires in another month or so and I have now had
> 2 cold calling calls offering me new contracts.
> How do these get the data?? and does the Data Protection Act have
> something to do with all this?? - ie protect my data??

Not sure, but it'd be interesting to find out - ask who their 
nominated Data Controller is !

Other than that, tell them their information is wrong - you're on PAYG 
and you've just been made redundant - they'll hang up quicker than you 
can !
date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:52:10 +0100   author:   Colin Wilson

Re: Cold calling   
> My T mobile contract expires in another month or so and I have now had
> 2 cold calling calls offering me new contracts.
> How do these get the data?? and does the Data Protection Act have
> something to do with all this?? - ie protect my data??

As they emanate from a supplier with whom you have a contract,
I would suggest these calls are somewhere between tepid and
lukewarm ;-)
-- 
Graham

%Profound_observation%
date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:55:22 +0100   author:   Graham.

Re: Cold calling   
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:52:10 +0100, Colin Wilson
 wrote:

>> My T mobile contract expires in another month or so and I have now had
>> 2 cold calling calls offering me new contracts.
>> How do these get the data?? and does the Data Protection Act have
>> something to do with all this?? - ie protect my data??
>
>Not sure, but it'd be interesting to find out - ask who their 
>nominated Data Controller is !

Due to data protection they don't actually tell you who they got their
data from in the first place.
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date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:28:54 +0100   author:   BGN

Re: Cold calling   
CS wrote:
> My T mobile contract expires in another month or so and I have now had
> 2 cold calling calls offering me new contracts.
> How do these get the data?? and does the Data Protection Act have
> something to do with all this?? - ie protect my data??

If they are from dealers, then it is likely that they have looked up 
the number ranges and know that the number was issued 1 year ago.

They probably don't know who you are. Ask them who they want to 
speak to. They will probably reply "The account holder".

Add your number to the TPS list:

http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/

This will stop most (but not all) of these calls.

UK companies have a legal obligation to check against this list 
before making a marketing call.

regards, Ian
date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:24:57 +0100   author:   Ian Smith

Re: Cold calling   
> >Not sure, but it'd be interesting to find out - ask who their 
> >nominated Data Controller is !
> Due to data protection they don't actually tell you who they got their
> data from in the first place.

No, but the Data Controller should, if asked !

IIRC there is a legal liability on a company buying the details to 
ascertain that they have been acquired legitimately.

Therefore, they should know the origin of the data.
date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:50:25 +0100   author:   Colin Wilson

Re: Cold calling   
"CS"  wrote in message 
news:2e8040e4-d72f-4c91-b356-98491a9f9708@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
> My T mobile contract expires in another month or so and I have now had
> 2 cold calling calls offering me new contracts.
> How do these get the data?? and does the Data Protection Act have
> something to do with all this?? - ie protect my data??
>
I always feed them misinformation, lie and say you're on another network

If you want a T Mobile upgrade, call their Customers retentions dept
Then you know who you are really dealing with

Steve Terry
date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:49:05 +0100   author:   Steve Terry

Re: Cold calling   
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:50:25 +0100, Colin Wilson
 wrote:

>> >Not sure, but it'd be interesting to find out - ask who their 
>> >nominated Data Controller is !
>> Due to data protection they don't actually tell you who they got their
>> data from in the first place.
>
>No, but the Data Controller should, if asked !
>
>IIRC there is a legal liability on a company buying the details to 
>ascertain that they have been acquired legitimately.
>
>Therefore, they should know the origin of the data.

I remember reading up on the DPA about a decade ago and it sticking in
my mind that you can indeed ask for your info to be removed but the
company you're dealing with does NOT have to tell you where they
obtained your info.  However, I can't find the text of the (amended)
act anywhere as a source of this info.  Searching for anything
relating to DPA brings up mostly sponsored links and the IC's office
page is less than useless.
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date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:15:10 +0100   author:   BGN

Re: Cold calling   
In article 
,
 CS  wrote:

> My T mobile contract expires in another month or so and I have now had
> 2 cold calling calls offering me new contracts.
> How do these get the data?? 

As has been suggested, they probably just called your number as the 
range was released about a year ago. About 12 months after I started my 
current T-Mobile contract I had a similar cold call. Unfortunately for 
them, I'm on an 18 month contract!

> and does the Data Protection Act have
> something to do with all this?? - ie protect my data??

Did they know your name or address or anything other than your phone 
number?
date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:33:23 +0100   author:   Chris Leuty

Re: Cold calling   
Had another today.  Numbers are banded around unless one has
registered with the Telephone Preference Service - http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/
date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:42:51 -0700 (PDT)   author:   CS

Re: Cold calling   
> Had another today.  Numbers are banded around unless one has
> registered with the Telephone Preference Service - http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/

Ask them for some pertinent details, like name of company, person who 
contacted you, company contact number and address, then tell them 
you're on the TPS list - there's a potential fine of, IIRC, £5000 per 
call.

Unless they're calling internationally they know this, and will 
normally hang up pretty quickly as soon as you mention it.

Or say you've just been made redundant - what's the cheapest rate they 
offer on PAYG :-p

Then tell them to send you all the details via post.
date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:02:42 +0100   author:   Colin Wilson

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