Hi,

I've got a SE S610i, just wondering about security.

I can set a PIN on the SIM card, and one on the phone so that it can't be 
used by unauthorised people, if it got stolen, or whatever, however, both of 
these codes are only required when the phone is turned on, so as long as 
they keep it charges, and don't turn it off, they could continue to use it, 
and access the contacts list, diary, notes, etc. etc.

My old Nokia had a keylock pin which meant you could lock the phone such 
that you needed to enter a code before you could unlock the keypad. Just 
wondered if SE phones have a similar feature (I can't find it...)

I a nutshell, I'm looking for a way to stop someone accessing the phone when 
it is already switched on and the PINs entered.

-- 
Regards,
Chris.
(Remove Elvis's shoes to email me)

ChrisM formulated on Thursday :
> Hi,
>
> I've got a SE S610i, just wondering about security.
>
> I can set a PIN on the SIM card, and one on the phone so that it can't be 
> used by unauthorised people, if it got stolen, or whatever, however, both of 
> these codes are only required when the phone is turned on, so as long as they 
> keep it charges, and don't turn it off, they could continue to use it, and 
> access the contacts list, diary, notes, etc. etc.
>
> My old Nokia had a keylock pin which meant you could lock the phone such that 
> you needed to enter a code before you could unlock the keypad. Just wondered 
> if SE phones have a similar feature (I can't find it...)
>
> I a nutshell, I'm looking for a way to stop someone accessing the phone when 
> it is already switched on and the PINs entered.

Put the SIM back in the old phone.

The manufacturers have "improved" the design!

My original Nokia was great too - the key lock still allowed you to 
answer the phone or dial 999 but required the pin to do anything else.

The closest I've come to mimicking that behaviour is using PIN2 and a 
fixed dial list. PITA turning it on and off, though.

In message mn.d5297d86a1ef6555.88534@blueyonder.invalid,
Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> Proclaimed from the tallest tower:


> The closest I've come to mimicking that behaviour is using PIN2 and a
> fixed dial list. PITA turning it on and off, though.

Never really looked at PIN2. How does that work then?
I'm guessing something along the lines of you can only dial numbers in your 
contacts list, unless you enter a second PIN??


-- 
Regards,
Chris.
(Remove Elvis's shoes to email me)

on 27/06/2008, ChrisM supposed :
> In message mn.d5297d86a1ef6555.88534@blueyonder.invalid,
> Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> Proclaimed from the tallest tower:
>
>
>> The closest I've come to mimicking that behaviour is using PIN2 and a
>> fixed dial list. PITA turning it on and off, though.
>
> Never really looked at PIN2. How does that work then?
> I'm guessing something along the lines of you can only dial numbers in your 
> contacts list, unless you enter a second PIN??

Yeah. Though there's a separate "allow" list. Not all networks support 
Fixed Dialling, though, so the option to create a fixed dial list isn't 
always in the menu.

In news:mn.d5297d86a1ef6555.88534@blueyonder.invalid,
Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> typed, for some strange, unexplained 
reason:

[snip]

: My original Nokia was great too - the key lock still allowed you to
: answer the phone or dial 999 but required the pin to do anything else.
:
: The closest I've come to mimicking that behaviour is using PIN2 and a
: fixed dial list. PITA turning it on and off, though.

Problem with that is not all networks support PIN2. I wanted to set up 
fixed dialling on my Nokia 6310i on a Virgin SIM but although the menu 
gives the option to enter a PIN2 code, Virgin say their system doesn't 
support it and can't/won't give me a PIN2 code.

Ivor

In news:mn.dc007d86a4672a6b.88534@blueyonder.invalid,
Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> typed, for some strange, unexplained 
reason:
: on 27/06/2008, ChrisM supposed :
: > In message mn.d5297d86a1ef6555.88534@blueyonder.invalid,
: > Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> Proclaimed from the tallest
: > tower:
: >
: >
: >> The closest I've come to mimicking that behaviour is using PIN2
: >> and a fixed dial list. PITA turning it on and off, though.
: >
: > Never really looked at PIN2. How does that work then?
: > I'm guessing something along the lines of you can only dial numbers
: > in your contacts list, unless you enter a second PIN??
:
: Yeah. Though there's a separate "allow" list. Not all networks support
: Fixed Dialling, though, so the option to create a fixed dial list
: isn't always in the menu.

Even if it is, they don't always support it (see my other post).

Ivor