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date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:36:52 +0100,    group: uk.telecom.mobile        back       
3 PAYG, a question I need answering   
If I get a 3 PAYG sim, can I use it in a Samsung D900 (Unlocked) to access
everything except the 3G services that the phone is not capable of....?
Im sick of Orange and want to sample 3 before I decide to take them up fully
as my new provider.....

Thanks Dave
date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:36:52 +0100   author:   Dave

Re: 3 PAYG, a question I need answering   
On 24 Jun, 12:36, "Dave"  wrote:
> If I get a 3 PAYG sim, can I use it in a Samsung D900 (Unlocked) to access
> everything except the 3G services that the phone is not capable of....?
> Im sick of Orange and want to sample 3 before I decide to take them up fully
> as my new provider.....
>
> Thanks Dave

3 pay as you go SIM's from ebay or from the 3 website dont need to be
used in a 3G phone so that will be fine.  Your phone will just use the
2G network (which is provided by orange).

One thing 3 wont do is send out settings for you to use the internet
as its not a 3G phone that they support; but you can of course input
these manually should you want to.
date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:02:23 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: 3 PAYG, a question I need answering   
Dave wrote:
> If I get a 3 PAYG sim, can I use it in a Samsung D900 (Unlocked) to access
> everything except the 3G services that the phone is not capable of....?
> Im sick of Orange and want to sample 3 before I decide to take them up fully
> as my new provider.....
> 
> Thanks Dave
> 
> 
> 

I doubt it, I just tried my 3 sim in a 2G phone, it said Sim Rejected.

3 only own the 3g part of their network, for 2G they piggyback on the 
orange network, if you're always going to be using the 2G part of the 
network then you'll be costing them money because you're roaming.

3 only supply none-backwards compatible USIMs, this means that the sim 
cards will only work in a 3G handset.  Other networks like Vodafone and 
Orange also supply USIMs but they're backwards compatible, which means 
if the USIM is put into a none 3G handset then it will work as an old 
fashioned SIM.

It's a very long time since, but there used to be talk of USIMs being 
put in a 2G phone could damage it, and in the T&C's for 3 it still says 
they wont be responsible if you damage your phone in this way.

Hope this helps, xCx
date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:44:52 +0100   author:   xCx

Re: 3 PAYG, a question I need answering   
On 24 Jun, 16:44, xCx  wrote:
> Dave wrote:
> > If I get a 3 PAYG sim, can I use it in a Samsung D900 (Unlocked) to access
> > everything except the 3G services that the phone is not capable of....?
> > Im sick of Orange and want to sample 3 before I decide to take them up fully
> > as my new provider.....
>
> > Thanks Dave
>
> I doubt it, I just tried my 3 sim in a 2G phone, it said Sim Rejected.
>
> 3 only own the 3g part of their network, for 2G they piggyback on the
> orange network, if you're always going to be using the 2G part of the
> network then you'll be costing them money because you're roaming.
>
> 3 only supply none-backwards compatible USIMs, this means that the sim
> cards will only work in a 3G handset.  Other networks like Vodafone and
> Orange also supply USIMs but they're backwards compatible, which means
> if the USIM is put into a none 3G handset then it will work as an old
> fashioned SIM.
>
> It's a very long time since, but there used to be talk of USIMs being
> put in a 2G phone could damage it, and in the T&C's for 3 it still says
> they wont be responsible if you damage your phone in this way.
>
> Hope this helps, xCx

I've heard a few people mention that in this newsgroup before but my 3
SIM bought from 3.co.uk works in all my 2G phones (nokia 7210, 7250i,
6230i and even my old nokia 6210?!) Are newer ones backwards
compatible maybe?
date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:12:31 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: 3 PAYG, a question I need answering   
newsaccount@mail2web.com wrote:
> On 24 Jun, 16:44, xCx  wrote:
>> Dave wrote:
>>> If I get a 3 PAYG sim, can I use it in a Samsung D900 (Unlocked) to access
>>> everything except the 3G services that the phone is not capable of....?
>>> Im sick of Orange and want to sample 3 before I decide to take them up fully
>>> as my new provider.....
>>> Thanks Dave
>> I doubt it, I just tried my 3 sim in a 2G phone, it said Sim Rejected.
>>
>> 3 only own the 3g part of their network, for 2G they piggyback on the
>> orange network, if you're always going to be using the 2G part of the
>> network then you'll be costing them money because you're roaming.
>>
>> 3 only supply none-backwards compatible USIMs, this means that the sim
>> cards will only work in a 3G handset.  Other networks like Vodafone and
>> Orange also supply USIMs but they're backwards compatible, which means
>> if the USIM is put into a none 3G handset then it will work as an old
>> fashioned SIM.
>>
>> It's a very long time since, but there used to be talk of USIMs being
>> put in a 2G phone could damage it, and in the T&C's for 3 it still says
>> they wont be responsible if you damage your phone in this way.
>>
>> Hope this helps, xCx
> 
> I've heard a few people mention that in this newsgroup before but my 3
> SIM bought from 3.co.uk works in all my 2G phones (nokia 7210, 7250i,
> 6230i and even my old nokia 6210?!) Are newer ones backwards
> compatible maybe?

The one I just tried I got on Friday from the threestore in St Helens.
date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:10:58 +0100   author:   xCx

Re: 3 PAYG, a question I need answering   
wrote in message 
news:20e1c673-3690-41d5-8a9f-00f288c42366@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
On 24 Jun, 16:44, xCx  wrote:
> Dave wrote:
<snip>
>I've heard a few people mention that in this newsgroup before but my 3
>SIM bought from 3.co.uk works in all my 2G phones (nokia 7210, 7250i,
>6230i and even my old nokia 6210?!) Are newer ones backwards
>compatible maybe?
>
I very much doubt if it will work in a 6210

Not tried one in the phones above, but I have in a Nokia 3220,
It's safe to say they will Not work in 90% of 2g phones.

Of course when 3 find out, expect to be cut off
as you have broken their T&Cs

Steve Terry
date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:10:00 +0100   author:   Steve Terry

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