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date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:18:25 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.telecom.broadband        back       
Question about i-plate   
Have ordered an i-plate just to see if it will help my broadband
connection.
However my wireless modem is not connected to the main master box, its
in the first extension.
Will I need to move my modem to the main master box or will the i-
plate isolate the bell wire prior to the extension?
I used to have it plugged into the master socket but its more
convenient as I have an airport adapter attached to my home cinema
system.
I experimented before moving it and there is no difference in the
speeds in either place.
date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:18:25 -0700 (PDT)   author:   les

Re: Question about i-plate   
"les"  wrote in message 
news:53f02802-fd8b-4357-b101-58b99ad596ea@34g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> Have ordered an i-plate just to see if it will help my broadband
> connection.
> However my wireless modem is not connected to the main master box, its
> in the first extension.
> Will I need to move my modem to the main master box or will the i-
> plate isolate the bell wire prior to the extension?
> I used to have it plugged into the master socket but its more
> convenient as I have an airport adapter attached to my home cinema
> system.
> I experimented before moving it and there is no difference in the
> speeds in either place.

The I-Plate inserts a choke in the bell wire that should reduce the pickup 
of interference by the bell wire acting as a RX antenna. Perhaps if you gave 
some more details some other suggestions as to what to try could be made.

Peter Crosland
date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:46:27 +0100   author:   Peter Crosland

Re: Question about i-plate   
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:18:25 -0700 (PDT), les wrote:

>Have ordered an i-plate just to see if it will help my broadband
>connection.
>However my wireless modem is not connected to the main master box, its
>in the first extension.
>Will I need to move my modem to the main master box or will the i-
>plate isolate the bell wire prior to the extension?
>I used to have it plugged into the master socket but its more
>convenient as I have an airport adapter attached to my home cinema
>system.
>I experimented before moving it and there is no difference in the
>speeds in either place.

Are you talking about sync speeds as reported by your modem or download
speed tests? It's the sync speed that is important, also SNR margin and
attenuation. These are the only ones you can affect by the internal
wiring.

May I suggest that you log into your modem and note them and then move
the modem to the master socket but remove the faceplate and plug into
the test socket, only the modem - no phones, and then note the sync
stats again. That's the best you can possibly get, assuming the
extensions have been correctly connected to the faceplate and not to
the incoming wiring point.

If that improves things the i-plate may help. If it doesn't then the
i-plate won't help.

-- 
Regards - Rodney Pont
The from address exists but is mostly dumped,
please send any emails to the address below
e-mail	ngpsm4 (at) infohitsystems (dot) ltd (dot) uk
date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:05:32 +0100 (BST)   author:   Rodney Pont

Re: Question about i-plate   
I tested the download speed before moving it from the master socket
and the speed test was:

0.86 mbps download
69ms ping
0.33 mbps upload
5mb mp3 download 47 secs
35mb video download 5mins
800 mb movie file 124 mins

Did the same after the move to extension and no noticeable difference.

my broadband package is up to 8bps AOL package.

Not sure when the extension was put in but think it may have been done
by bt at the same time as the bt master socket was installed.
date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:46:38 -0700 (PDT)   author:   les

Re: Question about i-plate   
"les"  wrote in message 
news:dbe48c04-643c-4cf0-a2ad-ce369d6e8b1e@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>I tested the download speed before moving it from the master socket
> and the speed test was:
>
> 0.86 mbps download
> 69ms ping
> 0.33 mbps upload
> 5mb mp3 download 47 secs
> 35mb video download 5mins
> 800 mb movie file 124 mins
>
> Did the same after the move to extension and no noticeable difference.
>
> my broadband package is up to 8bps AOL package.
>
> Not sure when the extension was put in but think it may have been done
> by bt at the same time as the bt master socket was installed.

Download speeds are variable due to contention, time of day, quality of 
ISP's backhaul etc etc. The only meaningful comparison is between sync 
speeds, as Rodney has pointed out.

-- 
Martin
date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:56:34 +0100   author:   198kHz

Re: Question about i-plate   
On Aug 21, 5:56 pm, "198kHz"  wrote:
> "les"  wrote in message
>
> news:dbe48c04-643c-4cf0-a2ad-ce369d6e8b1e@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> >I tested the download speed before moving it from the master socket
> > and the speed test was:
>
> > 0.86 mbps download
> > 69ms ping
> > 0.33 mbps upload
> > 5mb mp3 download 47 secs
> > 35mb video download 5mins
> > 800 mb movie file 124 mins
>
> > Did the same after the move to extension and no noticeable difference.
>
> > my broadband package is up to 8bps AOL package.
>
> > Not sure when the extension was put in but think it may have been done
> > by bt at the same time as the bt master socket was installed.
>
> Download speeds are variable due to contention, time of day, quality of
> ISP's backhaul etc etc. The only meaningful comparison is between sync
> speeds, as Rodney has pointed out.
>
> --
> Martin

will check sync speed
date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:20 -0700 (PDT)   author:   les

Re: Question about i-plate   
On 21/08/09 07:18, les wrote:

> Have ordered an i-plate just to see if it will help my broadband
> connection.
> However my wireless modem is not connected to the main master box, its
> in the first extension.
> Will I need to move my modem to the main master box

If you're willing to move the router to be near the master socket, then 
a faceplate ADSL filter instead of an i-plate will probably do a better job.
date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:06:50 +0100   author:   Andy Burns

Re: Question about i-plate   
Seem to have sorted things out to a better situation.
Moved the netgear router to the master socket, had trouble with the
connection via wireless to my apple airport express which involved
updating the firmware on my router so now have wireless music via
itunes and internet at the same time.
Speeds in general have increased but not sure whether this was due to
the i-plate (only cost £5) or the firmware update.

Thanks for all postings and private emails on how to sort matters out,
thanks to the newsgroup have saved myself a lot of time.
date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:35:20 -0700 (PDT)   author:   les

Re: Question about i-plate   
"les"  wrote in message 
news:dbe48c04-643c-4cf0-a2ad-ce369d6e8b1e@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>I tested the download speed before moving it from the master socket
> and the speed test was:
>
> 0.86 mbps download
> 69ms ping
> 0.33 mbps upload
> 5mb mp3 download 47 secs
> 35mb video download 5mins
> 800 mb movie file 124 mins
>
> Did the same after the move to extension and no noticeable 
> difference.
>
> my broadband package is up to 8bps AOL package.
>
> Not sure when the extension was put in but think it may have been 
> done
> by bt at the same time as the bt master socket was installed.

That is not what was suggested.  Removed the faceplate & test from the 
test socket, if you are testing with the faceplate still there you 
won't see a lot off difference because all the extension wiring is 
still connected.

The testing from the test socket would have to be over several hours 
as synching the router repeatedly can fool the DSLAM into thinking 
there is a fault and reduce your speeds, in the worse case scenario 
this could lead to a stuck profile but it is the only way for you to 
check.

A cheaper way to deal with the issue would be to remove the bell wire 
at the master socket (idc 3).  Now if you've already done that you 
won't see much of an improvement when fitting a I-Plate.

Possibly a little research could have saved you the price of an 
I-Plate plus postage..
date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:11:36 +0100   author:   Kráftéé kr?ft??@b&e-cottee.me.uk

Re: Question about i-plate   
On Aug 22, 11:11 pm, Kráftéé <kráftéé@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote:
> "les"  wrote in message
>
> news:dbe48c04-643c-4cf0-a2ad-ce369d6e8b1e@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> >I tested the download speed before moving it from the master socket
> > and the speed test was:
>
> > 0.86 mbps download
> > 69ms ping
> > 0.33 mbps upload
> > 5mb mp3 download 47 secs
> > 35mb video download 5mins
> > 800 mb movie file 124 mins
>
> > Did the same after the move to extension and no noticeable
> > difference.
>
> > my broadband package is up to 8bps AOL package.
>
> > Not sure when the extension was put in but think it may have been
> > done
> > by bt at the same time as the bt master socket was installed.
>
> That is not what was suggested.  Removed the faceplate & test from the
> test socket, if you are testing with the faceplate still there you
> won't see a lot off difference because all the extension wiring is
> still connected.
>
> The testing from the test socket would have to be over several hours
> as synching the router repeatedly can fool the DSLAM into thinking
> there is a fault and reduce your speeds, in the worse case scenario
> this could lead to a stuck profile but it is the only way for you to
> check.
>
> A cheaper way to deal with the issue would be to remove the bell wire
> at the master socket (idc 3).  Now if you've already done that you
> won't see much of an improvement when fitting a I-Plate.
>
> Possibly a little research could have saved you the price of an
> I-Plate plus postage..

Sync was tested as per instructions from an email from a member of
this newsgroup and I dont think I will worry about the £5 including
postage, the main thing was to improve my broadband connection, I did
think about removing the bell wire but the i-plate is the easy option.
I do understand that there maybe a further improvement over the coming
days.
date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:24:48 -0700 (PDT)   author:   les

Re: Question about i-plate   
"les"  wrote in message 
news:96a453a7-b961-425f-ba5a-e9742707d255@o32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 22, 11:11 pm, Kráftéé <kráftéé@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote:
> "les"  wrote in message
>
> news:dbe48c04-643c-4cf0-a2ad-ce369d6e8b1e@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> >I tested the download speed before moving it from the master socket
> > and the speed test was:
>
> > 0.86 mbps download
> > 69ms ping
> > 0.33 mbps upload
> > 5mb mp3 download 47 secs
> > 35mb video download 5mins
> > 800 mb movie file 124 mins
>
> > Did the same after the move to extension and no noticeable
> > difference.
>
> > my broadband package is up to 8bps AOL package.
>
> > Not sure when the extension was put in but think it may have been
> > done
> > by bt at the same time as the bt master socket was installed.
>
> That is not what was suggested. Removed the faceplate & test from 
> the
> test socket, if you are testing with the faceplate still there you
> won't see a lot off difference because all the extension wiring is
> still connected.
>
> The testing from the test socket would have to be over several hours
> as synching the router repeatedly can fool the DSLAM into thinking
> there is a fault and reduce your speeds, in the worse case scenario
> this could lead to a stuck profile but it is the only way for you to
> check.
>
> A cheaper way to deal with the issue would be to remove the bell 
> wire
> at the master socket (idc 3). Now if you've already done that you
> won't see much of an improvement when fitting a I-Plate.
>
> Possibly a little research could have saved you the price of an
> I-Plate plus postage..

Sync was tested as per instructions from an email from a member of
this newsgroup and I dont think I will worry about the £5 including
postage, the main thing was to improve my broadband connection, I did
think about removing the bell wire but the i-plate is the easy option.
I do understand that there maybe a further improvement over the coming
days.


Not on your sync speeds but maybe your thru put...
date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:06:10 +0100   author:   Kráftéé kr?ft??@b&e-cottee.me.uk

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