How does this work, or does the external NTE5 have a filter?

I have just purchased an older property that does not have an NTE5. In
fact the drop wire from the telegraph pole comes in through a window has
an old style GPO box and then various bits of wire running over the wall
paper and round skirting to a number of hardwired outlets.

My plan was to phone BT up and ask for an NTE5 to be fitted, and at a more
suitable location than the current entry point, with the expectation that
I will have to fork over some money.

However after doing some reading on the internet it would appear that there
is now some newfangled external NTE5, and it is unclear as to how one goes
about doing the equivalent of faceplate filtering on these. Or are these
only for new builds at the moment.

Also it is entirely unclear as to how long the cable run can be from where
it enters the property to where the NTE5 is located, and what if any
restrictions or guidelines there are. At the moment the cable from the
telegraph pole to the house runs through a tree (which was obviously not
there when cable was installed).


JAB.

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Jonathan A. Buzzard                 Email: jonathan (at) buzzard.me.uk
Fife, United Kingdom.

Jonathan Buzzard wrote:

> How does this work, or does the external NTE5 have a filter?
>
> I have just purchased an older property that does not have an NTE5. In
> fact the drop wire from the telegraph pole comes in through a window has
> an old style GPO box and then various bits of wire running over the wall
> paper and round skirting to a number of hardwired outlets.
>
> My plan was to phone BT up and ask for an NTE5 to be fitted, and at a more
> suitable location than the current entry point, with the expectation that
> I will have to fork over some money.
>
> However after doing some reading on the internet it would appear that there
> is now some newfangled external NTE5,

What exactly do you mean by 'external'. To be fitted on the outside of your
home ?

I suggest you read better.

Graham

On 29/09/2008 08:12, Eeyore wrote:

> Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
> 
>> after doing some reading on the internet it would appear that there
>> is now some newfangled external NTE5,
> 
> What exactly do you mean by 'external'. To be fitted on the outside of your
> home? I suggest you read better.

I suggest you read more ;-)

http://www.sinet.bt.com/STIN470v1p0.pdf

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Andy Burns   wrote:

> On 29/09/2008 08:12, Eeyore wrote:
>
>> Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
>>
>>> after doing some reading on the internet it would appear that there
>>> is now some newfangled external NTE5,
>>
>> What exactly do you mean by 'external'. To be fitted on the outside
>> of your home? I suggest you read better.
>
> I suggest you read more ;-)
>
> http://www.sinet.bt.com/STIN470v1p0.pdf

Interesting - hadn't heard of that!

It's very clear from the documented cited that this is for new build only - 
and is thus not relevant to the OP.

It also mentions an in-built filter for DSL installations. Although it 
doesn't specify how customer wiring is to be connected, I imagine that it 
provides both filtered and unfiltered connections in the same was as a 
filtered faceplate on an NTE-5.
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Eeyore wrote:
> Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
>
>> How does this work, or does the external NTE5 have a filter?
>>
>> I have just purchased an older property that does not have an
>> NTE5. In fact the drop wire from the telegraph pole comes in
>> through a window has an old style GPO box and then various bits of
>> wire running over the wall paper and round skirting to a number of
>> hardwired outlets.
>>
>> My plan was to phone BT up and ask for an NTE5 to be fitted, and
>> at a more suitable location than the current entry point, with the
>> expectation that I will have to fork over some money.
>>
>> However after doing some reading on the internet it would appear
>> that there is now some newfangled external NTE5,
>
> What exactly do you mean by 'external'. To be fitted on the outside
> of your home ?
>
> I suggest you read better.
>
> Graham

Yes Graham, there is a variety of NTe which fit to the outside of the 
property.....

If you're ever in this situation I would suggest you ignore it & make the 
first socket inside the NTE + faceplate, always remembering that Openreach 
only covers to the outside one...

Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
> How does this work, or does the external NTE5 have a filter?
>
> I have just purchased an older property that does not have an NTE5.
> In fact the drop wire from the telegraph pole comes in through a
> window has an old style GPO box and then various bits of wire
> running over the wall paper and round skirting to a number of
> hardwired outlets.
>
> My plan was to phone BT up and ask for an NTE5 to be fitted, and at
> a more suitable location than the current entry point, with the
> expectation that I will have to fork over some money.
>
> However after doing some reading on the internet it would appear
> that there is now some newfangled external NTE5, and it is unclear
> as to how one goes about doing the equivalent of faceplate
> filtering on these. Or are these only for new builds at the moment.
>
> Also it is entirely unclear as to how long the cable run can be
> from where it enters the property to where the NTE5 is located, and
> what if any restrictions or guidelines there are. At the moment the
> cable from the telegraph pole to the house runs through a tree
> (which was obviously not there when cable was installed).

Yes you'll have to pay but no you shouldn't get an external NTE as these are 
supposed to be being put into use in/on U/G fed estates....

Andy Burns wrote:

> On 29/09/2008 08:12, Eeyore wrote:
>
> > Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
> >
> >> after doing some reading on the internet it would appear that there
> >> is now some newfangled external NTE5,
> >
> > What exactly do you mean by 'external'. To be fitted on the outside of your
> > home? I suggest you read better.
>
> I suggest you read more ;-)
>
> http://www.sinet.bt.com/STIN470v1p0.pdf

It's called an "external NTE" - NOT an NTE5.

Can't quite figure why anyone would want one though.

Graham

kraftee wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
> > Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
> >
> >> How does this work, or does the external NTE5 have a filter?
> >>
> >> I have just purchased an older property that does not have an
> >> NTE5. In fact the drop wire from the telegraph pole comes in
> >> through a window has an old style GPO box and then various bits of
> >> wire running over the wall paper and round skirting to a number of
> >> hardwired outlets.
> >>
> >> My plan was to phone BT up and ask for an NTE5 to be fitted, and
> >> at a more suitable location than the current entry point, with the
> >> expectation that I will have to fork over some money.
> >>
> >> However after doing some reading on the internet it would appear
> >> that there is now some newfangled external NTE5,
> >
> > What exactly do you mean by 'external'. To be fitted on the outside
> > of your home ?
> >
> > I suggest you read better.
>
> Yes Graham, there is a variety of NTe which fit to the outside of the
> property.....

But it's not called an NTE5 which was my point.


Graham

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Eeyore   wrote:

>>
>> Yes Graham, there is a variety of NTe which fit to the outside of the
>> property.....
>
> But it's not called an NTE5 which was my point.
>
I'm sure you're right. But it is really worth labouring the point - everyone 
will know what was meant?!
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Roger
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Roger Mills wrote:

> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> Eeyore   wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes Graham, there is a variety of NTe which fit to the outside of the
> >> property.....
> >
> > But it's not called an NTE5 which was my point.
>
> I'm sure you're right. But it is really worth labouring the point - everyone
> will know what was meant?!

Well no.

I was wondering who in their right mind would put an NTE5 outdoors !

Graham

Eeyore wrote:
> Roger Mills wrote:
>
>> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
>> Eeyore   wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes Graham, there is a variety of NTe which fit to the outside
>>>> of the property.....
>>>
>>> But it's not called an NTE5 which was my point.
>>
>> I'm sure you're right. But it is really worth labouring the point
>> - everyone will know what was meant?!
>
> Well no.
>
> I was wondering who in their right mind would put an NTE5 outdoors !
>
> Graham

If you lived on a boat the master socket would be installed on the bank, 
outside your boat, so it can happen.

kraftee wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
> > Roger Mills wrote:
> >> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> >> Eeyore   wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes Graham, there is a variety of NTe which fit to the outside
> >>>> of the property.....
> >>>
> >>> But it's not called an NTE5 which was my point.
> >>
> >> I'm sure you're right. But it is really worth labouring the point
> >> - everyone will know what was meant?!
> >
> > Well no.
> >
> > I was wondering who in their right mind would put an NTE5 outdoors !
>
> If you lived on a boat the master socket would be installed on the bank,
> outside your boat, so it can happen.

I suppose so. I hope they'd stick it inside some IP x.x rating box though.

Graham