I need to buy a 5m RJ45 cable to hook up my PC to my Bebox router but
I'm not sure whether I should get a Cat5e or Cat6 cable and whether it
needs to be shielded.

Doughboy

> I need to buy a 5m RJ45 cable to hook up my PC to my Bebox router but
> I'm not sure whether I should get a Cat5e or Cat6 cable and whether it
> needs to be shielded.

Just pick up the cheapest you can find, preferably not somewhere like 
Comet / Currys !

I very much doubt the length you're talking about will have any effect 
whatsoever.

Doughboy wrote:
> I need to buy a 5m RJ45 cable to hook up my PC to my Bebox router but
> I'm not sure whether I should get a Cat5e or Cat6 cable and whether it
> needs to be shielded.

Cat5e non-shielded
Just a regular plain old Cat5e patch lead.

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On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:31:18 +0100, "www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
<0845.86.86.888@GymRatZ.Gym.Equipment> wrote:

>Doughboy wrote:
>> I need to buy a 5m RJ45 cable to hook up my PC to my Bebox router but
>> I'm not sure whether I should get a Cat5e or Cat6 cable and whether it
>> needs to be shielded.
>
>Cat5e non-shielded
>Just a regular plain old Cat5e patch lead.

Thanks guys. Play.com have got all the different types for under £5
but there's more choice of colours for Cat5e, so I can get one which I
can easily distinguish from all my other cables :)

Doughboy

"Colin Wilson"  wrote 
in message news:MPG.234853f967da0bb49899bb@news.motzarella.org...
>> I need to buy a 5m RJ45 cable to hook up my PC to my Bebox router but
>> I'm not sure whether I should get a Cat5e or Cat6 cable and whether it
>> needs to be shielded.
>
> Just pick up the cheapest you can find, preferably not somewhere like
> Comet / Currys !
>
> I very much doubt the length you're talking about will have any effect
> whatsoever.
>
>
My local 99p shop had 5m Cat5, but now they only have 2m ones left

Steve Terry

In news:gbllg4$4hd$1@news.albasani.net,
Steve Terry  typed, for some strange, unexplained 
reason:
: "Colin Wilson"
:  wrote in
: message news:MPG.234853f967da0bb49899bb@news.motzarella.org...
: >> I need to buy a 5m RJ45 cable to hook up my PC to my Bebox router
: >> but I'm not sure whether I should get a Cat5e or Cat6 cable and
: >> whether it needs to be shielded.
: >
: > Just pick up the cheapest you can find, preferably not somewhere
: > like Comet / Currys !
: >
: > I very much doubt the length you're talking about will have any
: > effect whatsoever.
: >
: >
: My local 99p shop had 5m Cat5, but now they only have 2m ones left
:
: Steve Terry

I crimp my own. If you go this route though make sure you use stranded 
cable not solid core.

Ivor

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:36:01 +0100, Doughboy wrote:

> Thanks guys. Play.com have got all the different types for under £5 but
> there's more choice of colours for Cat5e, so I can get one which I can
> easily distinguish from all my other cables :)

I bet Poundland is cheaper!

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In news:0jksd4tqpl26ae8a9g5h3ponoqobhl76kr@4ax.com,
Doughboy  typed, for some strange, unexplained reason:
: On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:31:18 +0100, "www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
: <0845.86.86.888@GymRatZ.Gym.Equipment> wrote:
:
: >Doughboy wrote:
: >> I need to buy a 5m RJ45 cable to hook up my PC to my Bebox router
: >> but I'm not sure whether I should get a Cat5e or Cat6 cable and
: >> whether it needs to be shielded.
: >
: >Cat5e non-shielded
: >Just a regular plain old Cat5e patch lead.
:
: Thanks guys. Play.com have got all the different types for under £5
: but there's more choice of colours for Cat5e, so I can get one which I
: can easily distinguish from all my other cables :)


I wish they did this at my workplace. For some reason, which even the I.T. 
guys I spoke to don't know, every single solitary patch cable in the 
entire company, which covers 10+ sites, are *all* yellow..!

Maybe they bought a job lot, I don't know, but it makes tracing the rat's 
nest behind my desk a nightmare..!!

Oh actually I tell a lie, I found a blue cable in the cupboard the other 
day..!


Ivor

On 27/09/2008 19:50, Ivor Jones wrote:

> I crimp my own. If you go this route though make sure you use stranded 
> cable not solid core.

If you crimp your own cables, make sure you get the right type of RJ45 
plug (either for stranded or for solid core).

Doughboy wrote:
> I need to buy a 5m RJ45 cable to hook up my PC to my Bebox router but
> I'm not sure whether I should get a Cat5e or Cat6 cable and whether it
> needs to be shielded.

Unless your router and PC support gigabit ethernet it matters not in the 
slightest. And even then, the two would have to be 50yds apart in an 
electrically noisy environment. Think machine shop and radio repair 
workshop.....

Doughboy wrote:
> 
> Thanks guys. Play.com have got all the different types for under £5
> but there's more choice of colours for Cat5e, so I can get one which I
> can easily distinguish from all my other cables :)

I bought a 50m drum and fitting tool from Screwfix and pop into Maplin 
to buy a bag of plugs whenever I need to. I custom-made all the 
patchleads, its simpler in the end.

Ivor Jones wrote:
> I wish they did this at my workplace. For some reason, which even the I.T. 
> guys I spoke to don't know, every single solitary patch cable in the 
> entire company, which covers 10+ sites, are *all* yellow..!

IMHO yellow should be reserved for cross-over cables. This also applied 
in audio, where yellow was reserved for phase reverse cables IIRC

Owain

On 27 Sep 2008 18:51:12 GMT, alexd  wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:36:01 +0100, Doughboy wrote:
>
>> Thanks guys. Play.com have got all the different types for under £5 but
>> there's more choice of colours for Cat5e, so I can get one which I can
>> easily distinguish from all my other cables :)
>
>I bet Poundland is cheaper!

Yeah, I often find stuff, like USB cables,  in those shops. Although
thinking about it, I believe it was one I got from there that I had
trouble with...

One downside with Play.com is you have to wait 21 days before they'll
accept a "gone missing in the post" claim and send you another one, so
not much use if you're in a hurry!

Doughboy

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:49:16 +0100, Owain
 wrote:

>Ivor Jones wrote:
>> I wish they did this at my workplace. For some reason, which even the I.T. 
>> guys I spoke to don't know, every single solitary patch cable in the 
>> entire company, which covers 10+ sites, are *all* yellow..!
>
>IMHO yellow should be reserved for cross-over cables. This also applied 
>in audio, where yellow was reserved for phase reverse cables IIRC
>
>Owain

I daresay a few people have been confused by the yellow phono
connectors used for composite video though.

Doughboy

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:08:16 +0100, Mark McIntyre
 wrote:

>Doughboy wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks guys. Play.com have got all the different types for under £5
>> but there's more choice of colours for Cat5e, so I can get one which I
>> can easily distinguish from all my other cables :)
>
>I bought a 50m drum and fitting tool from Screwfix and pop into Maplin 
>to buy a bag of plugs whenever I need to. I custom-made all the 
>patchleads, its simpler in the end.

I guess I would do this if I thought I might need to make a few leads
in the near future but I'm not planning to and my DIY skills leave a
lot to be desired anyway :)

Doughboy

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:06:17 +0100, Mark McIntyre
 wrote:

>Doughboy wrote:
>> I need to buy a 5m RJ45 cable to hook up my PC to my Bebox router but
>> I'm not sure whether I should get a Cat5e or Cat6 cable and whether it
>> needs to be shielded.
>
>Unless your router and PC support gigabit ethernet it matters not in the 
>slightest. And even then, the two would have to be 50yds apart in an 
>electrically noisy environment. Think machine shop and radio repair 
>workshop.....

Not me then. I've just got a hulking great CRT TV and an Xbox (along
with the usual rats nest of wires) between my PC and the router.

Doughboy

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:08:16 퍝, Mark McIntyre
 wrote:

> Thanks guys. Play.com have got all the different types for under £5
> but there's more choice of colours for Cat5e, so I can get one which I
> can easily distinguish from all my other cables :)
> 
> I bought a 50m drum and fitting tool from Screwfix and pop into Maplin 
> to buy a bag of plugs whenever I need to. I custom-made all the 
> patchleads, its simpler in the end.

Did you get the usual solid wire cable foundd in sheds and were the 
plugs you for suitable for solid wire?  If not, your crimps will be 
somewhat difficult to make up, with the pins bending because they cannot 
be pushed into the solid wire.  If you do have solid cable, I recommend 
you fit sockets with punch-down connections and install it correctly.  
Then you will still need a couple of short jumper cables...

-- 
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Doughboy wrote:
>> IMHO yellow should be reserved for cross-over cables. This also applied 
>> in audio, where yellow was reserved for phase reverse cables IIRC
> I daresay a few people have been confused by the yellow phono
> connectors used for composite video though.

They just do horrible things to phase as well.

BNCs were invented for a reason.

Owain

"Doughboy"  wrote in message 
news:dfgsd4pq4gqedpqn8t8j6pb0vc6oji6sik@4ax.com...
>I need to buy a 5m RJ45 cable to hook up my PC to my Bebox router but
> I'm not sure whether I should get a Cat5e or Cat6 cable and whether it
> needs to be shielded.
>
> Doughboy

Cat5e patch lead ~50p
Cat 6 patch lead ~75p

unless your router is also a gigabit switch you only need cat5e.

R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> 
> unless your router is also a gigabit switch you only need cat5e. 

Cat5e is ample for Gbit after all, isn't that what it was designed for?
If you can find me a domestic situation that can get to even 50% of Gbit
 capabillities I'll take me hat off to you. Most I can do is around 12
to 15% saturation tops. It's the PC and data storage that slow things
down NOT choice of cabling.
FWIW

Pete

Doughboy wrote:

> I need to buy a 5m RJ45 cable to hook up my PC to my Bebox router but
> I'm not sure whether I should get a Cat5e or Cat6 cable and whether it
> needs to be shielded.

Doesn't matter much. I even forget the differences now. Is Cat6 Gigabit ?

Graham

Colin Wilson wrote:

> > I need to buy a 5m RJ45 cable to hook up my PC to my Bebox router but
> > I'm not sure whether I should get a Cat5e or Cat6 cable and whether it
> > needs to be shielded.
>
> Just pick up the cheapest you can find, preferably not somewhere like
> Comet / Currys !
>
> I very much doubt the length you're talking about will have any effect
> whatsoever.

Probably available on ebay for about £1.30 + P&P.

Graham

On 28/09/2008 16:56, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:

> R. Mark Clayton wrote:
>> unless your router is also a gigabit switch you only need cat5e. 
> 
> Cat5e is ample for Gbit after all, isn't that what it was designed for?

Gigabit ethernet was specified to run on cat5, cat5e is a tightened up 
spec and is now what people normally choose for gigabit, cat6 *should* 
be good enough for 10gig with runs under 55m, cat6a is required for the 
full 100m.

In news:tZGdnW1vf5BKPUPVRVnyhAA@posted.plusnet,
Owain  typed, for some strange, 
unexplained reason:
: Ivor Jones wrote:
: > I wish they did this at my workplace. For some reason, which even
: > the I.T. guys I spoke to don't know, every single solitary patch
: > cable in the entire company, which covers 10+ sites, are *all*
: > yellow..!
:
: IMHO yellow should be reserved for cross-over cables. This also
: applied in audio, where yellow was reserved for phase reverse cables
: IIRC
:
: Owain

Well these certainly aren't crossovers, but when you've got 20 or so of 
the things all together it makes life difficult when you need to move 
furniture and plug/unplug them..!

Ivor

In news:UamdnaawwZbnw0LVnZ2dnUVZ8u6dnZ2d@posted.plusnet,
Owain  typed, for some strange, 
unexplained reason:
: Doughboy wrote:
: >> IMHO yellow should be reserved for cross-over cables. This also
: >> applied in audio, where yellow was reserved for phase reverse
: >> cables IIRC
: > I daresay a few people have been confused by the yellow phono
: > connectors used for composite video though.
:
: They just do horrible things to phase as well.
:
: BNCs were invented for a reason.

Yes, but why did they insist on using 75 ohm ones for video and 50 ohm 
ones for radio transmitters..? If you regularly use both it's a pain, 
especiallly when some fool manages to mix the bags of plugs up so I don't 
know which is which..! The centre pins are very hard to tell apart when 
you've got a handful of loose ones..!

Ivor

Andy Burns wrote:

> Gigabit ethernet was specified to run on cat5, cat5e is a tightened up
> spec and is now what people normally choose for gigabit, cat6 *should*
> be good enough for 10gig with runs under 55m, cat6a is required for the
> full 100m.

Streaming an archived Mpeg4 DVD to my Xbox for full screen TV viewing
uses a whopping.... 0.1 to 0.2% of my Gbit network over cat5e, I think
it'll be a while before I need to go beyond that.
:¬)

Doughboy wrote:
> I need to buy a 5m RJ45 cable to hook up my PC to my Bebox router but
> I'm not sure whether I should get a Cat5e or Cat6 cable and whether it
> needs to be shielded.
> 
> Doughboy
No need for anthing fancy CAT 5 unshielded is fine.

John Weston wrote:
>
> Did you get the usual solid wire cable foundd in sheds and were the 
> plugs you for suitable for solid wire? 

No, I bought a 50mtr drum of Cat5e braided core cable, and buy suitable 
plugs each time I go on.

  If not, your crimps will be
> somewhat difficult to make up, with the pins bending because they cannot 
> be pushed into the solid wire.  If you do have solid cable, I recommend 
> you fit sockets with punch-down connections and install it correctly.  

When I rewired the house I installed twin ethernet sockets in the front 
room, sitting room, study, playroom, den.... :-) All coming back to a 
handy central point where I have a switch.

> Then you will still need a couple of short jumper cables...

Or long ones. One wireless AP is 6ft above floor level and the other is 
50yds away in the garden shed :-)

Doughboy wrote:

> 
> 
> I daresay a few people have been confused by the yellow phono
> connectors used for composite video though.
> 
> Doughboy

They are special for reversing the picture when feeding a monitor that 
has to be viewed in a mirror or if you are using the nasty little screen 
of your camcorder turned to face the front.

Mike

(he he)

Ivor Jones wrote:

> 
> Yes, but why did they insist on using 75 ohm ones for video and 50 ohm 
> ones for radio transmitters..? If you regularly use both it's a pain, 
> especiallly when some fool manages to mix the bags of plugs up so I don't 
> know which is which..! The centre pins are very hard to tell apart when 
> you've got a handful of loose ones..!
> 
> Ivor
> 

50 Ohm ones are fatter! Difficult to tell with a BNC though.
I remember we went from Telcons at work to 'C'Types originally 75 Ohm 
then changed to 50 Ohm when all the pins broke off.
That was also mixed in with all the inter-series adaptors to include:-

Screwed C
N Type
BNC
TNC
SMB
SMA
F&E (PL259) (UHF)
F Type
Belling Lee
Phono (RCA)  (Cinch)
PO 316
Mono 1/4"
Stereo 1/4"

and don't even get me started on sill little Chineese DC connectors with 
several outside diameters/pin sizes/polarities.

Or RJ11/RJ12/CAT5/CAT6/BT connectors  HDMI/Composite/Component/S-VHS

Gold plated BT line cables for your 56k modem

The list goes on and on

No wonder PC World and other ripoff companies etc make so much dosh on 
the poor confused consumer

www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:
> R. Mark Clayton wrote:
>>
>> unless your router is also a gigabit switch you only need cat5e.
>
> Cat5e is ample for Gbit after all, isn't that what it was designed
> for? If you can find me a domestic situation that can get to even
> 50% of Gbit capabillities I'll take me hat off to you. Most I can
> do is around 12 to 15% saturation tops. It's the PC and data
> storage that slow things down NOT choice of cabling.
> FWIW
>
> Pete

I can get it up to 25-30% with data transfers from this PC to my NAS, but as 
for normal backups yes it does tend to slow dooooowwwnnn, which is why I go 
to bed & leave them to chat among themselves.

They do appear to have more fun then me though...

> On 27/09/2008 19:50, Ivor Jones wrote:
>
>> I crimp my own. If you go this route though make sure you use stranded 
>> cable not solid core.
>
> If you crimp your own cables, make sure you get the right type of RJ45 
> plug (either for stranded or for solid core).

Ivor's advice is more appropriate IMHO.
True, you can get plugs for solid cable, but they are
much less common, and could the OP identify he was
sold the right ones?
Solid cable shouldn't be used where it will be moved
regularly as with a patch lead.
-- 
Graham.

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