Hi,

Based on my previous thread about friend going with dodgy broadband
company.  I initially set them up with Gmail, however, there is mail
on the Gmail server which is not always popping into their Outlook
client.

Does anyone know a free or cheap email provider that doesn't require
your own domain, and provides POP and SMTP authenticated access?

Thanks.
Andrew.

Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Based on my previous thread about friend going with dodgy broadband
> company.  I initially set them up with Gmail, however, there is mail
> on the Gmail server which is not always popping into their Outlook
> client.
>
> Does anyone know a free or cheap email provider that doesn't require
> your own domain, and provides POP and SMTP authenticated access?
>
> Thanks.
> Andrew.

Yahoo mail (sign up from the uk servers, as yahoo.com has pop access as a 
chargable service) provides free pop and smtp access.

Gaz

"Gaz"  wrote in message 
news:6c7vneF3dghaeU1@mid.individual.net...
> Andrew Hodgson wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Based on my previous thread about friend going with dodgy broadband
>> company.  I initially set them up with Gmail, however, there is mail
>> on the Gmail server which is not always popping into their Outlook
>> client.
>>
>> Does anyone know a free or cheap email provider that doesn't require
>> your own domain, and provides POP and SMTP authenticated access?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Andrew.
>
> Yahoo mail (sign up from the uk servers, as yahoo.com has pop access as a 
> chargable service) provides free pop and smtp access.
>
> Gaz

Yep. Agreed. When I left BT and went to another ISP, I took up the offer of 
Yahoo Premium Mail to keep the old email address working via POP3.
Cost = £1.50 per month, and it works.
Spam filtering is good too. Spam box is accessible by webmail for deletions, 
etc.

George

George Weston wrote:
> "Gaz"  wrote in message 
> news:6c7vneF3dghaeU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Andrew Hodgson wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Based on my previous thread about friend going with dodgy broadband
>>> company.  I initially set them up with Gmail, however, there is mail
>>> on the Gmail server which is not always popping into their Outlook
>>> client.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know a free or cheap email provider that doesn't require
>>> your own domain, and provides POP and SMTP authenticated access?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Andrew.
>> Yahoo mail (sign up from the uk servers, as yahoo.com has pop access as a 
>> chargable service) provides free pop and smtp access.
>>
>> Gaz
> 
> Yep. Agreed. When I left BT and went to another ISP, I took up the offer of 
> Yahoo Premium Mail to keep the old email address working via POP3.
> Cost = £1.50 per month, and it works.
> Spam filtering is good too. Spam box is accessible by webmail for deletions, 
> etc.
> 
> George 
> 
> 

One problem I have had with Yahoo mail - and it may just be me as I use 
different reply-to and from addresses - is that some e-mails I send 
disappear into the ether. I have assumed, but not checked, that some 
form of spam filtering at the recipient end is hyper-active and I've 
only *know* of this happening with two addressees.

Otherwise, works well and, as you will see below, I use a special 
address to trap and flag newsgroup spam :-)

-- 
PeeGee

The reply address is a spam trap. All mail is reported as spam.
"Nothing should be able to load itself onto a computer without the 
knowledge or consent of the computer user. Software should also be able 
to be removed from a computer easily."
Peter Cullen, Microsoft Chief Privacy Strategist (Computing 18 Aug 05)

Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Based on my previous thread about friend going with dodgy broadband
> company.  I initially set them up with Gmail, however, there is mail
> on the Gmail server which is not always popping into their Outlook
> client.
>
> Does anyone know a free or cheap email provider that doesn't require
> your own domain, and provides POP and SMTP authenticated access?
>
> Thanks.
> Andrew.

Why do you rule out having your own domain? If you look at www.1and1.co.uk 
you'll see that you could have a .co.uk domain for just £2.99/year and 
Instant Mail for 81p/month, making a total yearly cost of £12.71 - and as a 
satisfied customer of theirs for a couple of years now, I can well recommend 
it.

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:24:03 +0100, Andrew Hodgson  wrote:

> Does anyone know a free or cheap email provider that doesn't require
> your own domain, and provides POP and SMTP authenticated access?

Heart Internet, £2.49 per month + a one-off setup fee of £9.99
(includes new domain registration):

http://www.heartinternet.co.uk/starter-h.shtml

Technically excellent, good people also.

-- 
Anthony Edwards
anthony@catfish.nildram.co.uk

Why not have an own domain?  This can be obtained cheaply from a
hosting service as others have pointed out, but even more cheaply,
less than a four-can of beer per year, as just a forwarding service.

I use both web-site and email forwarding, aka redirection.

For example, if you follow this URL that I give out for my creative
work ...
    http://www.macfarlane.macfh.co.uk
... you'll be redirected to the real site hosted by my ISP ...
    http://www.cemh.eclipse.co.uk/Macfarlane/Macfarlane.html
... and this URL for my support work ...
	http://www.javajive.macfh.co.uk/
... is redirected to ...
http://www.cemh.eclipse.co.uk/JavaJive/JavaJive.html
... (actually the redirections go to the framed versions of these
pages, but I'd rather the unframed versions be the ones picked up by
search-engine crawlers parsing this newsgroup!)

I do the same with email addresses, so that in my email headers the
'Reply-To' header is different from the 'From' header.

Compared to independent website and mail hosting, the pros and cons
are:
+   If your ISP already supplies free web space and emails as part of
the package, it's a *minimal* extra annual cost;
-    If you do change ISPs you have to do some work ...
        1    At the new ISP, republish your site and set up new emails
2    Change website/email redirections at the forwarding site
    ... but at least you don't completely lose everything, or need to
go round all your contacts and registered websites giving them all new
contact details for you;
-    You can't deep link via redirection  -  for example, this URL
(without the crawler killer spaces)  ...
    http: // www . macfarlane . macfh . co . uk / Poetry / Poetry.html
... would not be redirected automatically to ...
http://www.cemh.eclipse.co.uk/Macfarlane/Poetry/Poetry.html
... I'd have to set up a redirection for each individual page to
achieve this.

So, not suitable for a business, but fine for someone like myself.

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:24:03 +0100, Andrew Hodgson 
wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know a free or cheap email provider that doesn't require
> your own domain, and provides POP and SMTP authenticated access?

"Bill Payer" <a@b.c> wrote in message 
news:COednfN3-qkpG8LVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
> Andrew Hodgson wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Based on my previous thread about friend going with dodgy broadband
>> company.  I initially set them up with Gmail, however, there is mail
>> on the Gmail server which is not always popping into their Outlook
>> client.
>>
>> Does anyone know a free or cheap email provider that doesn't require
>> your own domain, and provides POP and SMTP authenticated access?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Andrew.
>
> Why do you rule out having your own domain? If you look at www.1and1.co.uk 
> you'll see that you could have a .co.uk domain for just £2.99/year and 
> Instant Mail for 81p/month, making a total yearly cost of £12.71 - and as 
> a satisfied customer of theirs for a couple of years now, I can well 
> recommend it.

And you can get their Exchange service for about £5 a month on top, once you 
do exchange, you wont go back.....

Though, i am going to jump in on MobileMe as soon as its launched.... 
'exchange for the rest of us'...

Gaz

To restore balance to the world Andrew Hodgson  wrote in
glgt54ht0bdqgke548srv8b8qd0ka4oj0c@news.giganews.com
>> Hi,
>>
>> Based on my previous thread about friend going with dodgy broadband
>> company.  I initially set them up with Gmail, however, there is mail
>> on the Gmail server which is not always popping into their Outlook
>> client.
>>
>> Does anyone know a free or cheap email provider that doesn't require
>> your own domain, and provides POP and SMTP authenticated access?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Andrew.



Take a look here http://dn-22.co.uk

Chris

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:49:31 +0100, "Gaz"  wrote:

>Andrew Hodgson wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Based on my previous thread about friend going with dodgy broadband
>> company.  I initially set them up with Gmail, however, there is mail
>> on the Gmail server which is not always popping into their Outlook
>> client.
>>
>> Does anyone know a free or cheap email provider that doesn't require
>> your own domain, and provides POP and SMTP authenticated access?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Andrew.
>
>Yahoo mail (sign up from the uk servers, as yahoo.com has pop access as a 
>chargable service) provides free pop and smtp access.

Yahoo are so bloody afraid of being exploited by spammers that they've made the
signup process almost impossible.  They require you to type in a combination of
letters and numbers to prove that you're not an automated robot.  Trouble is,
they present the code in such a highly stylised form that I got it wrong six
times in a row and gave up in disgust.

No wonder they're in deep doodoo and ripe for takeover.  There are so many free
email providers with simpler signups that they must be losing many punters.

Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Based on my previous thread about friend going with dodgy broadband
> company.  I initially set them up with Gmail, however, there is mail
> on the Gmail server which is not always popping into their Outlook
> client.
> 
> Does anyone know a free or cheap email provider that doesn't require
> your own domain, and provides POP and SMTP authenticated access?

Sign up for a dialup connection with most ISPs and they will provide one 
or more e-mail addresses.  Dial into them occasionally for the odd few 
minutes (see the ISPs Ts & Cs) and the account remains active.  I have 
e-mail addresses with Plusnet, BT, Freeuk and Freeola, through dialup 
accounts with each.  Freeola offer unlimited e-mail addresses with a 
single dialup account.

Provided you use your main ISPs SMTP and POP settings when setting up 
the account, you can use the dialup e-mail address as "From" and "Reply 
to" so that your mail appears to come from the Dialup ISP when actually 
sent through your main ISPs server.

-- 
Old Codger
e-mail use reply to field

What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make 
people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]

Old Codger expressed precisely :
> Andrew Hodgson wrote:
>> I initially set them up with Gmail, however, there is mail
>> on the Gmail server which is not always popping into their Outlook
>> client.
>> 
>> Does anyone know a free or cheap email provider that doesn't require
>> your own domain, and provides POP and SMTP authenticated access?
>
> Sign up for a dialup connection with most ISPs and they will provide one or 
> more e-mail addresses.  Dial into them occasionally for the odd few minutes 
> (see the ISPs Ts & Cs) and the account remains active.

There's no need to even dial in once you've set it up, I use my Gmail
account to check the mail on an old Tiscali pop account, & Tiscali must
see that as me logging in and out as they continue to send me the loyal
user discounted items email.  [ Not dialled in for a year ! ]

Regarding the problem with Outlook Xpress & Gmail, have you set the 
server type as IMAP ?????

Alan P

"Alan P"  wrote in message 
news:mn.1d0e7d88e61db3be.60768@invalid.net...
> Old Codger expressed precisely :
>> Andrew Hodgson wrote:
>>> I initially set them up with Gmail, however, there is mail
>>> on the Gmail server which is not always popping into their Outlook
>>> client.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know a free or cheap email provider that doesn't require
>>> your own domain, and provides POP and SMTP authenticated access?
>>
>> Sign up for a dialup connection with most ISPs and they will provide one 
>> or more e-mail addresses.  Dial into them occasionally for the odd few 
>> minutes (see the ISPs Ts & Cs) and the account remains active.
>
> There's no need to even dial in once you've set it up, I use my Gmail
> account to check the mail on an old Tiscali pop account, & Tiscali must
> see that as me logging in and out as they continue to send me the loyal
> user discounted items email.  [ Not dialled in for a year ! ]

snipped

I was told that Tiscali left email accounts open as you say. They didn't do 
that for me. When I moved Broadband from Tiscali  - instantly they closed my 
web page and email accounts. Lucky you....

Old Codger wrote:

>Sign up for a dialup connection with most ISPs and they will provide one 
>or more e-mail addresses.  Dial into them occasionally for the odd few 
>minutes (see the ISPs Ts & Cs) and the account remains active.  I have 
>e-mail addresses with Plusnet, BT, Freeuk and Freeola, through dialup 
>accounts with each.  Freeola offer unlimited e-mail addresses with a 
>single dialup account.
>
>Provided you use your main ISPs SMTP and POP settings when setting up 
>the account, you can use the dialup e-mail address as "From" and "Reply 
>to" so that your mail appears to come from the Dialup ISP when actually 
>sent through your main ISPs server.

This is exactly what I do; I have three ISPs for this, one of which
allows 'relay' for account holders through their servers. All my mail
comes back through another ISP, which people 'see' as my email
address. A third ISP provides internet access. I also use a separate
usergroup provider

This was has avoided all sorts of trouble with migrating ISPs,
failures of filter systems, compromise of passwords, as the system
stays constant.

i've always thought that the attitude of 'I've paid for my ISP so I
expect them to provide web, usergroups, and email' to fail to take
into account that dedicated providers (e.g for mail or usergroups) who
do nothing else but the single task tend to be very good at it.