Hi, can anyone please recommend an ADSL modem for use at speeds of no
more that 6Mb/s?

The only thing it MUST NOT have is wireless, be reliable and idiot
proof

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Cheers

Peter

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:48:40 +0100, petert wrote:

> Hi, can anyone please recommend an ADSL modem for use at speeds of no
> more that 6Mb/s?
> 
> The only thing it MUST NOT have is wireless, be reliable and idiot
> proof

I'm considering the Draytek Vigor 110, as it needs no drivers and is simple
to set up:

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?ProductID=6349
-- 
Peter.
You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion?
It's not rocket science, you know.

> I'm considering the Draytek Vigor 110, as it needs no drivers and is
> simple
> to set up:

OK if you only need a single ethernet port. There are other Drayteks
with built in 4 port ethernet hubs. Are you are on a long line
with high attenuation?

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:26:34 GMT, ato_zee@hotmail.com wrote:

>
>> I'm considering the Draytek Vigor 110, as it needs no drivers and is
>> simple
>> to set up:
>
>OK if you only need a single ethernet port. There are other Drayteks
>with built in 4 port ethernet hubs. Are you are on a long line
>with high attenuation?

No, relatively short line - probably less than a mile, the modem will
be approx 20 feet from the DP (which is in the room next to my office)

A single ethernet port will be fine - only one PC will need to access
it and I don't want a wireless appearance at all
-- 
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Broome - Shropshire.

PeterC wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:48:40 +0100, petert wrote:
>
>> Hi, can anyone please recommend an ADSL modem for use at speeds of no
>> more that 6Mb/s?
>>
>> The only thing it MUST NOT have is wireless, be reliable and idiot
>> proof
>
> I'm considering the Draytek Vigor 110, as it needs no drivers and is
> simple to set up:
>
> http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?ProductID=6349

No modem or router that connects to the computer by ethernet needs any 
drivers - only USB ones do.

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:26:34 +0000, ato_zee wrote:

>> I'm considering the Draytek Vigor 110, as it needs no drivers and is
>> simple
>> to set up:
> 
> OK if you only need a single ethernet port. There are other Drayteks
> with built in 4 port ethernet hubs.

The Vigor 110 seems to have replaced the Vigor 100.

The Vigor 100, which I have, has four ports. You can't use then as you 
would on a NAT router, but they are useful if you have a pc that's always-
on, that can act as a router or proxy. 

I wonder if the Vigor 110 does anything new, or whether it's just a cost-
reduced 100.

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:58:02 +0100, John wrote:

> PeterC wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:48:40 +0100, petert wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, can anyone please recommend an ADSL modem for use at speeds of no
>>> more that 6Mb/s?
>>>
>>> The only thing it MUST NOT have is wireless, be reliable and idiot
>>> proof
>>
>> I'm considering the Draytek Vigor 110, as it needs no drivers and is
>> simple to set up:
>>
>> http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?ProductID=6349
> 
> No modem or router that connects to the computer by ethernet needs any 
> drivers - only USB ones do.

Ah, right, that's useful to know, thanks.
-- 
Peter.
You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion?
It's not rocket science, you know.

PeterC wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:58:02 +0100, John wrote:
>
>> PeterC wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:48:40 +0100, petert wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, can anyone please recommend an ADSL modem for use at speeds
>>>> of no more that 6Mb/s?
>>>>
>>>> The only thing it MUST NOT have is wireless, be reliable and
>>>> idiot proof
>>>
>>> I'm considering the Draytek Vigor 110, as it needs no drivers and
>>> is simple to set up:
>>>
>>> http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?ProductID=6349
>>
>> No modem or router that connects to the computer by ethernet needs
>> any drivers - only USB ones do.
>
> Ah, right, that's useful to know, thanks.

Also if it has got a WiFi facility it's only a simple software switch to 
turn it off & with most you can remove the aeriel as well (if it has an 
external one), which does open up the field quite a bit

"PeterC"  wrote in message 
news:fs3fudb2ma1v.1piwt6zip99pb.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:58:02 +0100, John wrote:
>
>> PeterC wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:48:40 +0100, petert wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, can anyone please recommend an ADSL modem for use at speeds of no
>>>> more that 6Mb/s?
>>>>
>>>> The only thing it MUST NOT have is wireless, be reliable and idiot
>>>> proof
>>>
>>> I'm considering the Draytek Vigor 110, as it needs no drivers and is
>>> simple to set up:
>>>
>>> http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?ProductID=6349
>>
>> No modem or router that connects to the computer by ethernet needs any
>> drivers - only USB ones do.
>
> Ah, right, that's useful to know, thanks.

It would be interesting to know why you specifically want a modem.

A router provides NAT (Network Address Translation) in order to allow the 
connection of more than one PC; and this is effectively a firewall with a 
rule that says,"only allow in traffic which is a timely response to outgoing 
traffic".  A router will generally provide useful diagnostics about your 
line - handy when you have reliability or performance problems.

Basic routers are very cheap - see:
http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=584405
http://www.equanet.com/catalogue/item/A0290144

This one provides:

1) DDNS client - so you can always find out your ISP-dynamic address from 
elsewhere.

2) Access control option - so that you can nominate those IP addresses from 
which you want to allow remote access (good for security!)

3) Port forwarding - so you can specify which application you allow to 
communicate with the "home" computer.

4) DHCP pool summary - so you can identify the internal computer for which 
you wish to set up port forwarding

... as well as all the basic features you would expect.

Many more expensive routers miss out on some of these features.

It would be nice for it to have a built-in ping facility so it could test 
connectivity to a local PC, for example.

-- 
Graham J

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:17:55 +0100, "Graham J"
 wrote:

>
>"PeterC"  wrote in message 
>news:fs3fudb2ma1v.1piwt6zip99pb.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:58:02 +0100, John wrote:
>>
>>> PeterC wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:48:40 +0100, petert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, can anyone please recommend an ADSL modem for use at speeds of no
>>>>> more that 6Mb/s?
>>>>>
>>>>> The only thing it MUST NOT have is wireless, be reliable and idiot
>>>>> proof
>>>>
>>>> I'm considering the Draytek Vigor 110, as it needs no drivers and is
>>>> simple to set up:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?ProductID=6349
>>>
>>> No modem or router that connects to the computer by ethernet needs any
>>> drivers - only USB ones do.
>>
>> Ah, right, that's useful to know, thanks.
>
>It would be interesting to know why you specifically want a modem.
>
>A router provides NAT (Network Address Translation) in order to allow the 
>connection of more than one PC; and this is effectively a firewall with a 
>rule that says,"only allow in traffic which is a timely response to outgoing 
>traffic".  A router will generally provide useful diagnostics about your 
>line - handy when you have reliability or performance problems.
>
>Basic routers are very cheap - see:
>http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=584405
>http://www.equanet.com/catalogue/item/A0290144
>
>This one provides:
>
>1) DDNS client - so you can always find out your ISP-dynamic address from 
>elsewhere.
>
>2) Access control option - so that you can nominate those IP addresses from 
>which you want to allow remote access (good for security!)
>
>3) Port forwarding - so you can specify which application you allow to 
>communicate with the "home" computer.
>
>4) DHCP pool summary - so you can identify the internal computer for which 
>you wish to set up port forwarding
>
>... as well as all the basic features you would expect.
>
>Many more expensive routers miss out on some of these features.
>
>It would be nice for it to have a built-in ping facility so it could test 
>connectivity to a local PC, for example.

Hi,

I started the thread and the reason I asked for advice re a modem was
that I don't need/want anything with wireless capabilities and will
only ever need to connect one PC - no need for a four port jobbie -
thought it may also keep the cost down. However, I would welcome
recomecations for any ADSL device providing its without wireless.

-- 
Cheers

Peter

[snip]
>>It would be interesting to know why you specifically want a modem.
>>
>>A router provides NAT (Network Address Translation) in order to allow the
>>connection of more than one PC; and this is effectively a firewall with a
>>rule that says,"only allow in traffic which is a timely response to 
>>outgoing
>>traffic".  A router will generally provide useful diagnostics about your
>>line - handy when you have reliability or performance problems.
>>
>>Basic routers are very cheap - see:
>>http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=584405
>>http://www.equanet.com/catalogue/item/A0290144
>>
>>This one provides:
>>
>>1) DDNS client - so you can always find out your ISP-dynamic address from
>>elsewhere.
>>
>>2) Access control option - so that you can nominate those IP addresses 
>>from
>>which you want to allow remote access (good for security!)
>>
>>3) Port forwarding - so you can specify which application you allow to
>>communicate with the "home" computer.
>>
>>4) DHCP pool summary - so you can identify the internal computer for which
>>you wish to set up port forwarding
>>
>>... as well as all the basic features you would expect.
>>
>>Many more expensive routers miss out on some of these features.
>>
>>It would be nice for it to have a built-in ping facility so it could test
>>connectivity to a local PC, for example.
>
> Hi,
>
> I started the thread and the reason I asked for advice re a modem was
> that I don't need/want anything with wireless capabilities and will
> only ever need to connect one PC - no need for a four port jobbie -
> thought it may also keep the cost down. However, I would welcome
> recomecations for any ADSL device providing its without wireless.

The product I've suggested is a router WITHOUT wireless.

-- 
Graham J

Graham J wrote:
> [snip]
>>> It would be interesting to know why you specifically want a modem.
>>>
>>> A router provides NAT (Network Address Translation) in order to
>>> allow the connection of more than one PC; and this is effectively a
>>> firewall with a rule that says,"only allow in traffic which is a
>>> timely response to outgoing
>>> traffic".  A router will generally provide useful diagnostics about
>>> your line - handy when you have reliability or performance problems.
>>>
>>> Basic routers are very cheap - see:
>>> http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=584405
>>> http://www.equanet.com/catalogue/item/A0290144
>>>
>>> This one provides:
>>>
>>> 1) DDNS client - so you can always find out your ISP-dynamic
>>> address from elsewhere.
>>>
>>> 2) Access control option - so that you can nominate those IP
>>> addresses from
>>> which you want to allow remote access (good for security!)
>>>
>>> 3) Port forwarding - so you can specify which application you allow
>>> to communicate with the "home" computer.
>>>
>>> 4) DHCP pool summary - so you can identify the internal computer
>>> for which you wish to set up port forwarding
>>>
>>> ... as well as all the basic features you would expect.
>>>
>>> Many more expensive routers miss out on some of these features.
>>>
>>> It would be nice for it to have a built-in ping facility so it
>>> could test connectivity to a local PC, for example.
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I started the thread and the reason I asked for advice re a modem was
>> that I don't need/want anything with wireless capabilities and will
>> only ever need to connect one PC - no need for a four port jobbie -
>> thought it may also keep the cost down. However, I would welcome
>> recomecations for any ADSL device providing its without wireless.
>
> The product I've suggested is a router WITHOUT wireless.

All routers I've ever used provide a facilty to switch off the wireless part 
from the routers web interface.  I'm sure there are some that don't but the 
Netgears, 3Com and 2Wire models I've used definately do.

-- 

WCZ