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date: Thu, 29 May 2008 04:02:43 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.telecom.broadband        back       
BT line dead but ADSL ok..   
I've heard this can happen, but never come across it before, certainly not 
at home. Our BT line (which serves no purpose other than as a vessel for 
ADSL) is totally dead, with no power to the line (dead phone) but the 
broadband is fine.

The fault has been reported to BT and the automatic system (never spoke to 
a human for the duration of the call..!) said it was likely to be a fault 
at the exchange. Any ideas what would cause this and how long for 
repairs..? The system said tomorrow, but I'm not holding my breath.

Still, as most of our calls go via VoIP it's not a major problem, but I'm 
intrigued as to how it can happen and why. The weather has been pretty 
foul here for the last few days if that's anything to do with it.

Ivor
date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:58:08 +0100   author:   Ivor Jones lid

Re: BT line dead but ADSL ok..   
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote in message 
news:6a5oa4F36dskgU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> I've heard this can happen, but never come across it before, certainly not
> at home. Our BT line (which serves no purpose other than as a vessel for
> ADSL) is totally dead, with no power to the line (dead phone) but the
> broadband is fine.
>
> The fault has been reported to BT and the automatic system (never spoke to
> a human for the duration of the call..!) said it was likely to be a fault
> at the exchange. Any ideas what would cause this and how long for
> repairs..? The system said tomorrow, but I'm not holding my breath.
>
> Still, as most of our calls go via VoIP it's not a major problem, but I'm
> intrigued as to how it can happen and why. The weather has been pretty
> foul here for the last few days if that's anything to do with it.

The ADSL and voice equipment at the exchange are quite separate. One can 
fail and not the other.

Line faults can also cause these symptoms.  A broken joint on one leg of the 
pair will kill voice stone dead, but ADSL may be relatively unaffected. 
Comparison of attenuation and SNR margin before and after the fault will 
usually show more attenuation and poorer SNR margin when such a fault is 
present.

-- 
Graham J
date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:18:11 +0100   author:   Graham J

Re: BT line dead but ADSL ok..   
On Wed, 28 May 2008 19:58:08 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:


>Still, as most of our calls go via VoIP it's not a major problem, but I'm 
>intrigued as to how it can happen and why. The weather has been pretty 
>foul here for the last few days if that's anything to do with it.

Voice half of the line nackered adsl half ok to put it in simple terms
Ivor If I am not exactly right I bet it is something along those lines
but I have read reports a while back probably here about people still
being able to use Internet when the phone line has been discontinued .
One another subject the new toy went back to Tesco within three hours
of getting it three reasons 1 the outer cover of its box was torn and
resembled being dragged through the mud 2 the box itself looked like
it had been kicked round the Tesco direct warehouse a dozen times 3
and the main reason . On the box was a sticker saying to register the
phone call 0871 ******* for help call 07141 I think  ********* a
mobile phone number anyway which could not be used with free mobile
minutes and chargeable at 25p a minute from any phone .
NO CHANCE :))) .
date: Wed, 28 May 2008 19:36:39 GMT   author:   unknown

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