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date: Fri, 16 May 2008 23:42:31 +0100,    group: uk.telecom.broadband        back       
Re: Anyone on Plusnet's trial of ADSL Max Premium?   
On 11/04/2008 16:18, PlusNet Support Team wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Question #24615259 if you're listening Bob ;-)
> 
> Let me know if you're still having difficulties and I'll look into 
> things the next time I'm in here.

Despite my uplink always being 832Kbps with MaxPremium, I've still never 
had any upload faster[1] than when I only had a uplink of 448Kbps with 
Max, I gave up trying to convince the support staff via "My Questions" 
that something must be wrong :-(

[1] Even to one of our own servers located in a datacentre with ethernet 
link from a transit provider who peers directly with PlusNet.
date: Fri, 16 May 2008 23:42:31 +0100   author:   Andy Burns

Re: Anyone on Plusnet's trial of ADSL Max Premium?   
Andy Burns wrote:
> On 11/04/2008 16:18, PlusNet Support Team wrote:
> 
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> Question #24615259 if you're listening Bob ;-)
>> Let me know if you're still having difficulties and I'll look into 
>> things the next time I'm in here.
> 
> Despite my uplink always being 832Kbps with MaxPremium, I've still never 
> had any upload faster[1] than when I only had a uplink of 448Kbps with 
> Max, I gave up trying to convince the support staff via "My Questions" 
> that something must be wrong :-(

What are your router stats? (Upstream SNR/Attenuation etc.)

I'm on max premium and there have been times when my upstream has 
halved. AFAIK, it's rate adaptive in the same fashion that your 
downstream speed is.

Having said that, BT's systems are reporting your upstream speed as 
832kbps so I see little reason why you wouldn't get this kind of throughput.

What kind of results are you getting from http://mybroadbandspeed.co.uk

-- 
|Bob Pullen                   Broadband Solutions for
|Support                            Home & Business @
|PlusNet plc.                            www.plus.net
+------ PlusNet - The smarter way to broadband ------
date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:38:53 +0100   author:   PlusNet Support Team

Re: Anyone on Plusnet's trial of ADSL Max Premium?   
On 19/05/2008 13:38, PlusNet Support Team wrote:

> What are your router stats? (Upstream SNR/Attenuation etc.)

                         DOWN    UP
DSL Speed (Kbps)        2688    832
Margin (dB)             10.0    10.0
Line Attenuation (dB)   56.0    31.5
Transmit Power (dBm)    16.8    11.0

> I'm on max premium and there have been times when my upstream has 
> halved. AFAIK, it's rate adaptive in the same fashion that your 
> downstream speed is.

My downstream link speed varies by +/- 200Kbps whenever it reconnects, 
my upstream always used to be 448Kbps when I was on Max and is always 
832Kbps now that I'm on MaxPremium, unfortuantely it appears that 
"something" is throttling my uplink speed so I cannot use all the 
bandwidth available

> Having said that, BT's systems are reporting your upstream speed as 
> 832kbps so I see little reason why you wouldn't get this kind of 
> throughput.
> 
> What kind of results are you getting from http://mybroadbandspeed.co.uk

Down 1.897Mbps (237kB/s)
Up 342kbps (42.8kB/s)

Which is is very typical of the range of speeds I get.

http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/results/00800714.png

Thanks for looking again. Since you're also on premium, out of interest 
what sort of numbers do you get?

I've got my hands on a cisco 837 ADSL router which I will give a try, 
just to see if it could be my router causing the problem.
date: Mon, 19 May 2008 14:05:41 +0100   author:   Andy Burns

Re: Anyone on Plusnet's trial of ADSL Max Premium?   
On 19/05/2008 14:05, Andy Burns wrote:

> I've got my hands on a cisco 837 ADSL router which I will give a try, 
> just to see if it could be my router causing the problem.

Well, well, well ... similar connection speeds, but much better throughput!

http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/results/00807796.png

1.898Mbps (237kB/s) DOWN
710kbps (88.8kB/s) UP

I wonder if it can "hang on" to sync without daily re-connects like the 
other router...

cisco837#sh dsl int atm0

                 ATU-R (DS)                      ATU-C (US)
Modem Status:    Showtime (DMTDSL_SHOWTIME)
DSL Mode:        ANSI T1.413
ANSI Issue/rev:  2/1                             2/1
Vendor ID:       0x0022                          0x0022
Capacity Used:   98%                             97%
Noise Margin:    11.0 dB                          6.0 dB
Output Power:    19.0 dBm                        12.0 dBm
Attenuation:     54.5 dB                         31.5 dB
Defect Status:   None                            None
Last Fail Code:  None
Selftest Result: 0x00
Subfunction:     0x15
Interrupts:      640 (1 spurious)
Activations:     1
Init FW:         embedded
Operartion FW:   embedded
SW Version:      3.9.220
FW Version:      0x1A04

                  Interleave             Fast    Interleave 
  Fast
Speed (kbps):          2336                0           832                 0
Reed-Solomon EC:         12                0            27                 0
CRC Errors:               2                0            15                 0
Header Errors:            1                0            13                 0
Bit Errors:               0                0
BER Valid sec:          350                0
BER Invalid sec:          1                0

LOM Monitoring : Disabled

DMT Bits Per Bin
00: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 7 8 A A B B B B
10: B B B B C B B B A A A 9 9 9 0 0
20: 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 3 4 4 5 5 6 6 5 7
30: 7 7 7 8 8 8 8 8 8 9 9 9 9 9 9 9
40: 9 8 8 8 8 8 8 2 8 8 8 7 6 7 7 7
50: 6 6 4 2 5 6 6 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7
60: 7 7 6 7 7 7 7 6 6 6 6 6 5 6 6 6
70: 6 5 4 4 5 4 5 4 5 4 4 2 0 2 3 4
80: 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 3 4 4 4 4 3 2
90: 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 0 2 2 2 2 2 0 0 0
A0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
B0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
C0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
D0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
E0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
F0: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
date: Tue, 20 May 2008 15:28:36 +0100   author:   Andy Burns

Re: Anyone on Plusnet's trial of ADSL Max Premium?   
Andy Burns wrote:
> Thanks for looking again. Since you're also on premium, out of interest 
> what sort of numbers do you get?

Interesting that your upload's so much higher with the Cisco. I wonder 
if the MTU setting on your old router could be to blame? Here are my 
current line stats:

Statistics 	 Downstream 	Upstream 	
Line Rate 	 2272 Kbps 	832 Kbps 	
Noise Margin 	 12.4 dB 	10.0 dB 	
Line Attenuation 43.0 dB 	25.0 dB

My sync used to hit about 4500Kbps when I was first provisioned on Max 
(with 3.5Mbps-4Mbps throughput). Since then though I've settled for 
stability over speed. My line's capable of more, however I can't justify 
the time it would take for me to re-evaluate the situation with my 
internal wiring etc.

Here's my speedtest results:
http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/results/813739.png

-- 
|Bob Pullen                   Broadband Solutions for
|Support                            Home & Business @
|PlusNet plc.                            www.plus.net
+------ PlusNet - The smarter way to broadband ------
date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:02:30 +0100   author:   PlusNet Support Team

Re: Anyone on Plusnet's trial of ADSL Max Premium?   
On 21/05/2008 13:02, PlusNet Support Team wrote:

> Interesting that your upload's so much higher with the Cisco. 

<redface>
After further investigation, I noticed I'd configured packet shaping on 
the old router, and given it a maximum upload speed of 448kbps.
</redface>
date: Wed, 21 May 2008 21:48:07 +0100   author:   Andy Burns

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